FTA:
the industry is at a crossroads, switching from analog to digital technologies, and consumers need time to fully grasp the advantages of the fancy new devices now available.
Wasn't this same thing being said like 15+ years ago when the CD Player was a new and hip thing?
Hmmm... Actually, they were even saying this in the 70's when my Dad was on the R&D team for Zenith that developed the first Video Disk (Yes, he still has the very first Video Disk framed and hanging on his wall in his home office).
My point, you may ask? When the hell are people (on the whole) going to be able to accept things are changing? I mena not 100 years ago, whom ever at Mercades-Benz (sp) was building the firrt internal combustion engine. Even less long ago people started flying. The 50's then the 60's then the... well, you get the idea. These same things have been being said for generations now, but it still seems people (on the whole, not geeks like us/.'ers) can't accept that.
I think that if he really should deserve reverance, he should release the source *as it happens*.
You haven't had your labotamy re-done lately, right? You imply that someone that is trying to make a $ should release everything they type for free?
When was the last time M$ released the source for M$ Golf? Oh, wait, they never did. OK, well, when was the last time SquareSoft released the souse for the FF seires. Oh wait, they never did. Hmmm...
Get a grip. That doesn't mean there won't be a Linux version. By FAR, most gamers use Windows. Guess who they are going to try to entice to buy this first? It's not rocket science. (Don't get me wrong, I'm a Linux user, but common sense has to take over sometime for somethings..)
First, and foremost, what in the hell are you gonna do with all that Stuff?? I mean, I'm a geek too and all, but towers and racks and all that other stuff? I'd say put the money towards the mortgage...
2) My Server is in the basement. Due to it being underground, it stays around 50-55 F down there, wether it's 105F or -5 F outside. You should keep a de-humidifier in the visinity (but on a different circuit if possible) so your machines get nice dry cool air to suck in.
3) As a test last winter, I took a length of dryer hose (ya know the 4" or so wide stuff). I put it out a window (and carboarded up the rest of the open window. I taped the other end to a hole in the front of my PC where I have a mod to have a big fan right there. ~30F outside, ~50F in the box... Even after a few hours of Q3a.:-)
I understand that, but that's not what he signed. Yes, the TOS he signed says they disallow what he's doing.
So they're going to shut off a paying customer who isn't harming anyone?
Although I agree with you that this is damn silly, yes. They legally can and could/will pull his plug should they want to crack down on this stuff. I highly doubt they'd actually look at that minimal amount of BW usage (with all the XP 5kr1p7 k11d13z out there wasting most of it DOSing their friends), but they can and will yank this guy's plug all because he's simply trying to check his e-mail at work (for example).
The post is about Dmitry getting to go home. And not only that, but it's the damn truth. Prior to 9/11/01, things here in America were getting dull (and it seems a fair amount of "news" was based mostly on lawyers needing something to do...). If this happened NOW, i'm willing to bet that this would not be a big deal.
I'm not saying the case wouldn't exist, but it would've dropped ages ago...
ummm...
I don't use the GUI. I write scripts. Yes, I have mine verify the writes. All still exited with errorlevel 0. I didn't know. Luckly (so to speak) it was only a couple weeks. So I didn't miss much (not much activity on that LAN).
If the drive goes bad, the media/data are still intact.
Yea, that's true. Untill one day someone deleted something they shouldn't have and you go to restore it only to find that the drive was FUBAR'ed but still sending errorlevel 0 (meaning "Good Backup"). No errors, no nothing, good finishes is all that was reported. Just a tape that was worth as much as the lint in your pant's pocket.
If you actually used Linux...
Oh, yea. Geeze, you found me out. Yea I guess I'm just sitting here lying:
[{username}@aragorn/]# uname -a
Linux aragorn 2.4.16 #2 Mon Dec 3 19:12:44 EST 2001 i686 unknown
...that there are plenty of choices for Linux users. Tons of GUIs, media players, office suites, etc.
You Bet. I 100% agree with you. We have tons of choices for a ton of things, but:
Hardware support is still an area in which Linux is lacking
Yup, that's the bummer part. Sure I can run my printer (Lexmark model), may modem (and OLD Jaton ISA model (JUMPERS!!!:-) )), and my vid card (VooDoo3-2000), etc. Sure I got about 7 different versions of every damn app I could ever possibly use at my whim. But I can't use my WebCam on this box. I can't hook my Digital Camera up to this box (Toshba model). I can't hook my scanner up to this box (OLD PlusTech model). Well, that keeps me running a Windoze box for those things.
but if you are sure there's a patch to make your webcam work, all you have to do is obtain the patch, apply it, etc.
Actually, silly me, realized after I made my post, I have MDK's BOUGHT CD's. I tried applying the QuickCam patch to my kernel's source (2.4.16) after extracting it from the src.rpm (src.rpm is 2.4.3). No go. Patch failed trying to apply the patch. >:-( Failed to the point of corrupting my kernel's source. I had to delete and re-untar it.
Only those who need Windows for work-related activities that they can't do on Linux actually have to use Windows.
Yup, you are 100% correct. I have to use Windoze at work becuase I have an Exchange Server (Yes, I could enable POP/SMTP but clear text logons are not something I want floating around my Netquirk). Sure, Xaiman (sp?) have some Vapor-Ware they are promoting that is supposed to connect to an Excahnge Server. I'll belive it when I see it. Too bad it costs $70 a pop...
Everybody else who claims they have to use Windows are lying and simply want to pretend to be anti-MS Linux users without applying the actual effort to be one.
Damn it's looks like I may have just fed a troll...
Sorry folks...
I find it funny that many of the people who are against Microsoft still have Windows on their systems
Ahhh, my small-minded friend, you seem to be convienently forgetting that a goof majority software is written for M$'s junk, because that's where most of the users are. Some of the remaining stuff is for the Mac (but ported to Windoze). We (Linux users) don't have a whole lot of choice right now. I can chose to not use something (or buy a specific piece of hardware because Linux supports it - and not all of us are coders), or we do without and hope that some talented hacker out there (and there's many, Linux is proof) slaps together something that makes that said hardware work.
Case in point:
Logitech's QuickCam VC (USB version). I bought one of these years ago. It only works with 9x (not even ME). Logitech, despite my repeated pleadings over the past couple years, WILL NOT release drivers for anything newer than 98_SE to run the damn thing. Yes, folks, I know that (at least) MDK has a patch for the kernel to power one, but I've not tried it. I use Linus' kernels on my MDK box (and I don't know where to get that specific patch...).
So, my point is, either I go out and buy a new cam, or I run a Winodoze box. Those are my choices (or figure out were the kernel patch is...).
I think the best way to end this rant is to quote someone's sig from here at/.. I don't know who the person is and I haven't see it in a while now, but:
I use Windoze because have to. I use Linux because I want to.
If you teach future admins point and click with no text, then you're wasting your time.
Yes, I guess I'd have to agree, *BUT* you're forgetting one major thing. This article was in reference to a user, not an Admin. Most people don't have the "know how" to be an Admin. They just want a machine to boot and be able to check their e-mail and such. This article deals with the (L)user, not the Admin.
But, I do still agree with you. To train a *NIX Admin with only GUI utils is indeed not only a wate of time, but I'd venture to say: flat-out dumb.
To speak quite frank, I don't find this "Funny". I find this quite Insightful. People form thousands of years ago were interested (and partaked (sp)) in the same things we do now. This is a very damn good point.
This screams: "We are Human, and that doesn't change". (almost) No matter how far back you go, or how far you look forward. We ALL crave entertainment, home-life (when possible due to work constraints, and other musings), and getting clean.
OBLIGITORY_JOKE:
We all remember how rock music was invented, don't we?:-)
Re:Innovation? Yes. Better than a scooter? No.
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Who the fuck can't ride a scooter or drive a car?
What he's saying is who do you know that can do either WELL, and not add to the morons out there.
I don't know many that would fit in the Car catagory, and none that fit in the scooter catagory. Yet I know hunders of people that drives cars (only a couple that drive scooters from time to time).
Maybe now Nimbda, and the other fun fun ones that follow suit, will finally slow their beating on my router.s (and PC's) MOST of the IP's I've traced/nslookup'ed, resolve to @home clients.
Thank God!
I'm sorry to all the folks that are effected by this, but this makes the Internet a much safer and quieter (log and packet wise) Network.
Mayhaps some of these effected people will now understand that they are part of a group. They are NOT alone.
Just to add, I'm using Linus' 2.4.13 and I just compiled BestCrypt 0.8-9 just fine. I haven't installed it yet, so I can't yet verify that it actually works. But it at least compiled fine.
I'm using gcc-2.96-0.68mdk with glibc-2.2.4-12mdk, if that makes any difference
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Hey, at least us damn fool Americans know it wasn't Henry Ford...
Anyway, thanx for the reminder on the Benz stuff.
FTA:
/.'ers) can't accept that.
the industry is at a crossroads, switching from analog to digital technologies, and consumers need time to fully grasp the advantages of the fancy new devices now available.
Wasn't this same thing being said like 15+ years ago when the CD Player was a new and hip thing?
Hmmm... Actually, they were even saying this in the 70's when my Dad was on the R&D team for Zenith that developed the first Video Disk (Yes, he still has the very first Video Disk framed and hanging on his wall in his home office).
My point, you may ask? When the hell are people (on the whole) going to be able to accept things are changing? I mena not 100 years ago, whom ever at Mercades-Benz (sp) was building the firrt internal combustion engine. Even less long ago people started flying. The 50's then the 60's then the... well, you get the idea. These same things have been being said for generations now, but it still seems people (on the whole, not geeks like us
I think that if he really should deserve reverance, he should release the source *as it happens*.
You haven't had your labotamy re-done lately, right? You imply that someone that is trying to make a $ should release everything they type for free?
When was the last time M$ released the source for M$ Golf? Oh, wait, they never did. OK, well, when was the last time SquareSoft released the souse for the FF seires. Oh wait, they never did. Hmmm...
Seems like Mr. Carmack is onto something...
Wake up, man.
Mayhaps you should use the offical link then...
Just a thought.
Get a grip. That doesn't mean there won't be a Linux version. By FAR, most gamers use Windows. Guess who they are going to try to entice to buy this first? It's not rocket science. (Don't get me wrong, I'm a Linux user, but common sense has to take over sometime for somethings..)
Sorry about that. Konqueror wasn't playing nice (at first) with their navigation stuff. There's plenty of shots available
I wish there was more SS's available. Yea, there's the movie, but I'm only on a modem. The Demo's right out until Monday at work with my T-1...
To paraphrase a Think Geek Fortune (not one of mine):
> I married a Geek. What did you get stuck with?
A Restraining Order.
~
Geek chicks are nearly impossible to come by. It should be taken as a blessing and not a commonallity.
First, and foremost, what in the hell are you gonna do with all that Stuff?? I mean, I'm a geek too and all, but towers and racks and all that other stuff? I'd say put the money towards the mortgage...
:-)
2) My Server is in the basement. Due to it being underground, it stays around 50-55 F down there, wether it's 105F or -5 F outside. You should keep a de-humidifier in the visinity (but on a different circuit if possible) so your machines get nice dry cool air to suck in.
3) As a test last winter, I took a length of dryer hose (ya know the 4" or so wide stuff). I put it out a window (and carboarded up the rest of the open window. I taped the other end to a hole in the front of my PC where I have a mod to have a big fan right there. ~30F outside, ~50F in the box... Even after a few hours of Q3a.
That's kind of the point of his comment.
I understand that, but that's not what he signed. Yes, the TOS he signed says they disallow what he's doing.
So they're going to shut off a paying customer who isn't harming anyone?
Although I agree with you that this is damn silly, yes. They legally can and could/will pull his plug should they want to crack down on this stuff. I highly doubt they'd actually look at that minimal amount of BW usage (with all the XP 5kr1p7 k11d13z out there wasting most of it DOSing their friends), but they can and will yank this guy's plug all because he's simply trying to check his e-mail at work (for example).
I am guessing that they use unleaded with.
They either put a different block in under the hood, or there's other things, too.
Yes. If you're in breach of the legal agreement that you SIGNED, YES, they can pull your plug. That's kind of the point of this article...
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"Off Topic"?
The post is about Dmitry getting to go home. And not only that, but it's the damn truth. Prior to 9/11/01, things here in America were getting dull (and it seems a fair amount of "news" was based mostly on lawyers needing something to do...). If this happened NOW, i'm willing to bet that this would not be a big deal.
I'm not saying the case wouldn't exist, but it would've dropped ages ago...
I can't answer those questions of yours directly, but it's probably fairly safe to say:
:-)
"They don't do Windows"...
(nuck, nuck, nuck...)
ummm... I don't use the GUI. I write scripts. Yes, I have mine verify the writes. All still exited with errorlevel 0. I didn't know. Luckly (so to speak) it was only a couple weeks. So I didn't miss much (not much activity on that LAN).
If the drive goes bad, the media/data are still intact.
Yea, that's true. Untill one day someone deleted something they shouldn't have and you go to restore it only to find that the drive was FUBAR'ed but still sending errorlevel 0 (meaning "Good Backup"). No errors, no nothing, good finishes is all that was reported. Just a tape that was worth as much as the lint in your pant's pocket.
Yes, I had this happen not 8 months or so ago...
NT box, of course...
If you actually used Linux... /]# uname -a
...that there are plenty of choices for Linux users. Tons of GUIs, media players, office suites, etc.
:-) )), and my vid card (VooDoo3-2000), etc. Sure I got about 7 different versions of every damn app I could ever possibly use at my whim. But I can't use my WebCam on this box. I can't hook my Digital Camera up to this box (Toshba model). I can't hook my scanner up to this box (OLD PlusTech model). Well, that keeps me running a Windoze box for those things.
:-( Failed to the point of corrupting my kernel's source. I had to delete and re-untar it.
Oh, yea. Geeze, you found me out. Yea I guess I'm just sitting here lying:
[{username}@aragorn
Linux aragorn 2.4.16 #2 Mon Dec 3 19:12:44 EST 2001 i686 unknown
You Bet. I 100% agree with you. We have tons of choices for a ton of things, but:
Hardware support is still an area in which Linux is lacking
Yup, that's the bummer part. Sure I can run my printer (Lexmark model), may modem (and OLD Jaton ISA model (JUMPERS!!!
but if you are sure there's a patch to make your webcam work, all you have to do is obtain the patch, apply it, etc. Actually, silly me, realized after I made my post, I have MDK's BOUGHT CD's. I tried applying the QuickCam patch to my kernel's source (2.4.16) after extracting it from the src.rpm (src.rpm is 2.4.3). No go. Patch failed trying to apply the patch. >
Only those who need Windows for work-related activities that they can't do on Linux actually have to use Windows.
Yup, you are 100% correct. I have to use Windoze at work becuase I have an Exchange Server (Yes, I could enable POP/SMTP but clear text logons are not something I want floating around my Netquirk). Sure, Xaiman (sp?) have some Vapor-Ware they are promoting that is supposed to connect to an Excahnge Server. I'll belive it when I see it. Too bad it costs $70 a pop...
Everybody else who claims they have to use Windows are lying and simply want to pretend to be anti-MS Linux users without applying the actual effort to be one.
Damn it's looks like I may have just fed a troll...
Sorry folks...
I find it funny that many of the people who are against Microsoft still have Windows on their systems
/.. I don't know who the person is and I haven't see it in a while now, but:
Ahhh, my small-minded friend, you seem to be convienently forgetting that a goof majority software is written for M$'s junk, because that's where most of the users are. Some of the remaining stuff is for the Mac (but ported to Windoze). We (Linux users) don't have a whole lot of choice right now. I can chose to not use something (or buy a specific piece of hardware because Linux supports it - and not all of us are coders), or we do without and hope that some talented hacker out there (and there's many, Linux is proof) slaps together something that makes that said hardware work.
Case in point:
Logitech's QuickCam VC (USB version). I bought one of these years ago. It only works with 9x (not even ME). Logitech, despite my repeated pleadings over the past couple years, WILL NOT release drivers for anything newer than 98_SE to run the damn thing. Yes, folks, I know that (at least) MDK has a patch for the kernel to power one, but I've not tried it. I use Linus' kernels on my MDK box (and I don't know where to get that specific patch...).
So, my point is, either I go out and buy a new cam, or I run a Winodoze box. Those are my choices (or figure out were the kernel patch is...).
I think the best way to end this rant is to quote someone's sig from here at
I use Windoze because have to. I use Linux because I want to.
'nuf said.
To speak quite frank, I wouldn't call this "interesting". I'd call this a Troll.
If you teach future admins point and click with no text, then you're wasting your time.
Yes, I guess I'd have to agree, *BUT* you're forgetting one major thing. This article was in reference to a user, not an Admin. Most people don't have the "know how" to be an Admin. They just want a machine to boot and be able to check their e-mail and such. This article deals with the (L)user, not the Admin.
But, I do still agree with you. To train a *NIX Admin with only GUI utils is indeed not only a wate of time, but I'd venture to say: flat-out dumb.
To speak quite frank, I don't find this "Funny". I find this quite Insightful. People form thousands of years ago were interested (and partaked (sp)) in the same things we do now. This is a very damn good point.
:-)
This screams: "We are Human, and that doesn't change". (almost) No matter how far back you go, or how far you look forward. We ALL crave entertainment, home-life (when possible due to work constraints, and other musings), and getting clean.
OBLIGITORY_JOKE:
We all remember how rock music was invented, don't we?
Who the fuck can't ride a scooter or drive a car?
What he's saying is who do you know that can do either WELL, and not add to the morons out there.
I don't know many that would fit in the Car catagory, and none that fit in the scooter catagory. Yet I know hunders of people that drives cars (only a couple that drive scooters from time to time).
Maybe now Nimbda, and the other fun fun ones that follow suit, will finally slow their beating on my router.s (and PC's) MOST of the IP's I've traced/nslookup'ed, resolve to @home clients.
Thank God!
I'm sorry to all the folks that are effected by this, but this makes the Internet a much safer and quieter (log and packet wise) Network.
Mayhaps some of these effected people will now understand that they are part of a group. They are NOT alone.
no CG person would balk at anything asked of them.
From the few movies I've DL'ed from Gnutella or UseNet, it seems the live ones don't either.
Just to add, I'm using Linus' 2.4.13 and I just compiled BestCrypt 0.8-9 just fine. I haven't installed it yet, so I can't yet verify that it actually works. But it at least compiled fine.
I'm using gcc-2.96-0.68mdk with glibc-2.2.4-12mdk, if that makes any difference