I must disagree. Or more, I must say he's still more correct than you are.:)
Performance does matter on servers, but what's more critical than performance is building a solid application. That's why Java is widely preferred over C or C++ for Web applications in the first place. Sure, you can probably spend the time and come up with a faster C or C++ implementation - but what good's that do you when your app core dumps?
Fast servers are dirt cheap; instead of 10 servers, buy 11, and use a safer language.
BTW, this isn't a comment on J2EE vs..NET. I have no experience with.NET. C# sounds "safe", but I don't think I'd consider it "proven" anytime soon.
Wow, this is really big news considering in many states the demopublicans and replubicrats have setup ballot access laws designed to prevent third parties from making ever even making it onto the ballet.
Then there's old Federal Matching funds. I love that one. We need to PAY to help re-elect these shitheads.
The worst part is, nobody cares. Who's playing on Monday night football??
Do you live in the United States? Then you must be an extremist or fanatical - because those are the ideals the country was originally founded on.
Or are you one of these later euro-trash migrators that came over here and decided all this freedom was way too icky and scary and set about burdening us down with asinine laws like 20,000 word documents controlling the sale of cabbage?
Wow, those BASTARDS. they STOLE the idea. And of course, it was ORIGINAL in the late 1800s - nobody had EVER thought of starting their own local government before.
Maybe those socialists should've patented the idea... oh wait, they're socialists.
Nice. Compare Linux on commodity hardware against Solaris on Sparc hardware.
Sure wouldn't want to compare it with Solaris x86. Sun's evil. Or something like that.
I've been using Solaris x86 since 2.6 in production. It's rock solid, benchmarks consistently on par with RH, and yet is significantly more stable for our applications [Java].... and v8 is free.
There's no comparison between Windows and Linux PCs against Sunfires. Apples, Oranges. Who uses E6800s for Apache servers? Did they do any sort of benchmarking or bang-for-the-buck comparisons?
Yep, prior to 1990, these people all starved to death in the streets. Neglected, shunned by society, turned out by their families, and unable to turn round doorknobs, it's a wonder any survived at all.
Luckily, our fearless government stepped in and solved the problem by forcing us to spend billions to comply with frequently arcane regulations.
Thank god our valiant government has moved to make sure even quadriplegics have access to lap dancing, mean people can't be fired, 400 lb porkers can be stewardesses...
It's a damn good thing that the feds stepped in and fixed this for us. I know local governments, churches, families, friends, etc certainly weren't up to the task, despite handling it for thousands of years.
I'm also glad that we eliminate all sorts of things in the name of fairness. We couldn't climb to the top of the torch tower from the 1996 Olympics - why? Because there wasn't any way to make it handicap accessible. Better we should all suffer than to let some suffer alone. Then there was when Greenbelt, Maryland was forced to remove a portable toilet from the city park, because when it rained, the toilet wasn't wheelchair accessible anymore. I guess we all need to hold it so we can appreciate that.
Anything short of the ADA would've been akin to concentration camps!
PS: What kind of selfish piece of crap forces everyone around him to shell out hard earned money to provide for him?
None of us live anywhere truly 'free' anymore. The main thing we have going for us in the United States is the ultimate check and balance - private firearms ownership.
I think it's time to break out the belt-fed this weekend.:)
Maybe I'm just a typical pig headed American, but I could really give a shit how many people in Europe are online.:)
Europe sure seems obsessed with "beating" the United States in things. I would think if they're really so far ahead of us in technology, they wouldn't spend quite so much time trying to explain that they're so far ahead of us in technology.
I used to think I "enjoyed" the constant tinkering of Linux. Then one day I realized what a collosal waste of my life it had become.:)
Like TV, tinkering with continual vain attempts at getting everything "perfect" on the Linux desktop with just the right combinations of apps (will Kword open this file, or will I need to resort to Abiword? Damn, gnumeric crashed... I hope Kspread will work... crap, gabber's yahoo transport sucks, I'll have to run Gaim too...), the right tweaks in config files was a waste of the limited amount of time I have on this planet.:)
I'd rather be programming, hanging out with my wife, playing with my dog, or doing something else productive or more spiritually rewarding. I gave up TV for that reason, and having been playing with a G4-400 for the last month, I'm teetering on the edge of relegating my Athlon 2000 to game playing and smacking down a couple of Macs on my desk.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I've replaced all our production boxes running Solaris x86 (which I still love... in some situations) with Linux. Linux is the server OS of choice for me.
But on the desktop, like the article says, it sure is nice to have something that "Just Works". As much as I loathe microsoft, Office X works nicely. I can run Photoshop (I like Gimp, but...sorry...no comparison!), I have good email client options that WORK (kmail and evolution are amazingly bug-ridden), and I have my handy dandy unix CLI at my disposal.:)
I'm not some daft 'newbie' either. I've been a Unix geek for 11+ years now, I'm a Java/C programmer, an Oracle DBA, a Solaris system administrator, etc, etc.
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Actually, I'd be surprised if performance wasn't BETTER with postgres and say, Resin ($500/server) than Oracle and BEA.
I've used all of them. =)
I must disagree. Or more, I must say he's still more correct than you are. :)
.NET. I have no experience with .NET. C# sounds "safe", but I don't think I'd consider it "proven" anytime soon.
Performance does matter on servers, but what's more critical than performance is building a solid application. That's why Java is widely preferred over C or C++ for Web applications in the first place. Sure, you can probably spend the time and come up with a faster C or C++ implementation - but what good's that do you when your app core dumps?
Fast servers are dirt cheap; instead of 10 servers, buy 11, and use a safer language.
BTW, this isn't a comment on J2EE vs.
No better way to preserve freedom than to FORBID American corporations to sell a product ...
Solaris x86 is "slow" because video support sucks.
:)
It hauls absolute ass as a server OS, and you can't beat the hardware prices.
I used both Sparc and x86 side by side for the last 5 years... they're both damn nice.
Pity they don't come out with GNU/Solaris to save me all that package installation time.
Why would you let him install anything ???
Wow, this is really big news considering in many states the demopublicans and replubicrats have setup ballot access laws designed to prevent third parties from making ever even making it onto the ballet.
Then there's old Federal Matching funds. I love that one. We need to PAY to help re-elect these shitheads.
The worst part is, nobody cares. Who's playing on Monday night football??
Do you live in the United States? Then you must be an extremist or fanatical - because those are the ideals the country was originally founded on.
Or are you one of these later euro-trash migrators that came over here and decided all this freedom was way too icky and scary and set about burdening us down with asinine laws like 20,000 word documents controlling the sale of cabbage?
Wow, those BASTARDS. they STOLE the idea. And of course, it was ORIGINAL in the late 1800s - nobody had EVER thought of starting their own local government before.
Maybe those socialists should've patented the idea... oh wait, they're socialists.
If at first you don't secede
How about an Ultra 1 for $100 on ebay? :)
Nice. Compare Linux on commodity hardware against Solaris on Sparc hardware.
... and v8 is free.
Sure wouldn't want to compare it with Solaris x86. Sun's evil. Or something like that.
I've been using Solaris x86 since 2.6 in production. It's rock solid, benchmarks consistently on par with RH, and yet is significantly more stable for our applications [Java].
There's no comparison between Windows and Linux PCs against Sunfires. Apples, Oranges. Who uses E6800s for Apache servers? Did they do any sort of benchmarking or bang-for-the-buck comparisons?
Yep, prior to 1990, these people all starved to death in the streets. Neglected, shunned by society, turned out by their families, and unable to turn round doorknobs, it's a wonder any survived at all.
Luckily, our fearless government stepped in and solved the problem by forcing us to spend billions to comply with frequently arcane regulations.
Thank god our valiant government has moved to make sure even quadriplegics have access to lap dancing, mean people can't be fired, 400 lb porkers can be stewardesses...
It's a damn good thing that the feds stepped in and fixed this for us. I know local governments, churches, families, friends, etc certainly weren't up to the task, despite handling it for thousands of years.
I'm also glad that we eliminate all sorts of things in the name of fairness. We couldn't climb to the top of the torch tower from the 1996 Olympics - why? Because there wasn't any way to make it handicap accessible. Better we should all suffer than to let some suffer alone. Then there was when Greenbelt, Maryland was forced to remove a portable toilet from the city park, because when it rained, the toilet wasn't wheelchair accessible anymore. I guess we all need to hold it so we can appreciate that.
Anything short of the ADA would've been akin to concentration camps!
PS: What kind of selfish piece of crap forces everyone around him to shell out hard earned money to provide for him?
That's not the fucking point. Why in the hell is it within the government's power to force someone to build their website a certain way?
The ADA has GOT to go. It's the most vile and disgusting piece of legislation I think we've ever seen.
None of us live anywhere truly 'free' anymore. The main thing we have going for us in the United States is the ultimate check and balance - private firearms ownership.
I think it's time to break out the belt-fed this weekend.
Apparently you decided not to read the European posts about how Finland is the world leader of technology.
... or can it not even read iCalendar attachments in Mail ??
Seriously - who cares?
:)
Maybe I'm just a typical pig headed American, but I could really give a shit how many people in Europe are online.
Europe sure seems obsessed with "beating" the United States in things. I would think if they're really so far ahead of us in technology, they wouldn't spend quite so much time trying to explain that they're so far ahead of us in technology.
The only cracked cases I'm aware of were a manufacturing defect. It'd sure take a lot more heat than a G4-500 generates to crack the case.
I'm in Phoenix, I keep my house at 90-92F, my cube has no problems.
What makes you so sure they didn't buy more than a banner?
You assume much. Heard of inline assembly?
Who has the big discounts? I'm not seeing them. I still see 800mhz systems almost as much as the 2x867 ones!
Wow. Time for some new editors.
Why don't people figure this stuff out BEFORE they get married? :)
I used to think I "enjoyed" the constant tinkering of Linux. Then one day I realized what a collosal waste of my life it had become. :)
:)
... in some situations) with Linux. Linux is the server OS of choice for me.
:)
...
Like TV, tinkering with continual vain attempts at getting everything "perfect" on the Linux desktop with just the right combinations of apps (will Kword open this file, or will I need to resort to Abiword? Damn, gnumeric crashed... I hope Kspread will work... crap, gabber's yahoo transport sucks, I'll have to run Gaim too...), the right tweaks in config files was a waste of the limited amount of time I have on this planet.
I'd rather be programming, hanging out with my wife, playing with my dog, or doing something else productive or more spiritually rewarding. I gave up TV for that reason, and having been playing with a G4-400 for the last month, I'm teetering on the edge of relegating my Athlon 2000 to game playing and smacking down a couple of Macs on my desk.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I've replaced all our production boxes running Solaris x86 (which I still love
But on the desktop, like the article says, it sure is nice to have something that "Just Works". As much as I loathe microsoft, Office X works nicely. I can run Photoshop (I like Gimp, but...sorry...no comparison!), I have good email client options that WORK (kmail and evolution are amazingly bug-ridden), and I have my handy dandy unix CLI at my disposal.
I'm not some daft 'newbie' either. I've been a Unix geek for 11+ years now, I'm a Java/C programmer, an Oracle DBA, a Solaris system administrator, etc, etc.
Now, if only the hardware was more affordable
... we're just re-arming and waiting for the right opportunity.
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If at first you don't secede