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Cappuccino PC, Round 3

Simon (S2) writes "do you remember the cappuccino pc? There is a new release of it called Mocha. The Mocha P4 PC size advantage makes it ideal for places where space is at a premium or for those who work in several fixed locations at once and want to be able to access the same data everywhere. Mocha P4 is a PC that is so flexible, efficient, compact and portable technically knocks down all existing desk top PCs. Choosing a big and bulky inappropriate PC has become an obsolete way of thinking. The over all technology of other mini-book PCs around is still far from our achievement today. Take advantage of the new breed PC of tomorrow and experience the next generation way of computing."

213 comments

  1. Yes.... by kingofnopants · · Score: 1

    but can it play quake? oh...it can....sweet...

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  2. Why not just get a laptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well, why not?

    1. Re:Why not just get a laptop? by swagr · · Score: 2

      Well, I like to a have a portable Mosix cluster with me at all times (it's much nicer to run fluid dynamics simulations at the local cafe than in the lab) and of course my primary node is my laptop. But the other 40 nodes are Cappuchinos.

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    2. Re:Why not just get a laptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the obvious advantage of a laptop is that it comes with a built in screen. I mean, for a cluster, yeah, it's nice to have small machines, but you have to fiddle around with keyboard and monitor switches or climb around behind all the machines and plug a keyboard and monitor in when one decides to go wrong, and you can't telnet in to it.

      With a laptop, you just open it up, and wa-hey, kewl LCD screeny-weeny, and teeny-untypeonable-keyboard!!! :-)

    3. Re:Why not just get a laptop? by alister667 · · Score: 1

      I couldn't get a price on the site, but I suspect I'd go for 2-3 of those Walmart $199 PCs

      http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?produ ct _id=1957333&cat=96356&type=19&dept=0&path=0%3A3944 %3A3951%3A96356

      and some kind of removeable HD, maybe one of those keyring/USB things. I know I'd still need monitors, but did anyone get a price on those Mocha devices before the website died?

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    4. Re:Why not just get a laptop? by GregWebb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Much more niche market, this thingy, but:

      * Not everyone needs a screen. If you just want something headless, it's much smaller.
      * Contractor or other multi-site based role? Well, this gives you a full PC with network in a box not much bigger than a PDA. Take this round, plug it into their keyboard, mouse and monitor and you've got a PC with little carried round. Yes, that's dependent on them being there but how many offices don't have them spare somewhere? Also, means you get a proper one of each rather than the ergonomic nightmare that is a laptop.

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    5. Re:Why not just get a laptop? by marko123 · · Score: 2

      "* Not everyone needs a screen. If you just want something headless, it's much smaller."

      I use my Xbox connected to my stereo as a jukebox. No TV. I have memorised the button sequence to get to the song list I want and start playing it. :)

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  3. Prolix and confusing by mrleemrlee · · Score: 0, Troll

    The number one champion Slashdot thread will be being unstoppably modern in its execution, while looking to the future to make a revolution here in the present. Frappes for all!

    1. Re:Prolix and confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Lee, I think I love you.

      They say you're a troll, but I understand you as they never could.

      Can a troll and an AC love in such a cold world?

    2. Re:Prolix and confusing by ZoneKagen · · Score: 0

      how wonderfully nonsense in a logical kind of way

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  4. Ad... by opti6600 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An interesting thread...but nonetheless... coughcoughcoughfreeadvertisingcough

    1. Re:Ad... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 0, Troll

      All right ... who was the moron moderator? Did you even read the article summary?

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    2. Re:Ad... by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 1

      i submitted this story, and nobody paied me to do that.
      it's just that i was at work, had no time, cut'n'pasted the description from the website, and submitted the story.
      since i bought one, and i liked it, i tought it could be interesting.
      that's all.

      do i have to ask for money next time?

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    3. Re:Ad... by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      since i bought one, and i liked it, i tought it could be interesting.

      Out of curiousity, where'd you buy it?

    4. Re:Ad... by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 1

      on the site of the original post (slashdotted now).
      i'm from italy, so i had to pay 100$ for the ups guys and i had to pay the money in advance.

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    5. Re:Ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides being an ad masquerading as a news story, it's also a very poorly written ad. It sounds almost bad enough to be a japanese to english translation.

    6. Re:Ad... by spd_rcr · · Score: 1

      well, sh!t, slashdot will post stupid repeat stories about anything, but these blatant advertisements suck. nothing like a cut & paste advert on a product we've already seen plenty of info on. cripes they sell them at thinkgeek.com

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    7. Re:Ad... by opti6600 · · Score: 1

      Hehe, you ever done that with Babelfish one day when you're really bored? Just use babelfish over and over again on some piece of language, and you end up with "The Kiss of the Blue Bananas" when you started off with "The Penguins are coming to steal My sanity". Jordan

    8. Re:Ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simon,

      You're one stupid son of a bitch. Cease submitting stuff now, and thank the lord I dont have mod points.

      Thanks.

  5. This is cooler by mattbee · · Score: 2

    The PC that looks like an Amstrad CPC! Not such a great deal when you look at the specs, but hey-- it's the retro computer-in-the-keyboard look. Add a three inch floppy drive and you're there.

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    1. Re:This is cooler by pacc · · Score: 2

      Yeah,
      What did these suckers think of? The computer goes in the keyboard! It always has!

      Let's start the movement for ex-Amiga slashdot keyboard linux computers agains Micro$oft tablet-PC's :)

  6. Hey Taco by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mocha P4 is a PC that is so flexible, efficient, compact and portable technically knocks down all existing desk top PCs. Choosing a big and bulky inappropriate PC has become an obsolete way of thinking. The over all technology of other mini-book PCs around is still far from our achievement today. Take advantage of the new breed PC of tomorrow and experience the next generation way of computing."

    Why not make him buy a banner ad like everyone else? This isn't a product review or even an annoucement, it's blatant, and unsubstantiated, hype.

    1. Re:Hey Taco by torgosan · · Score: 2

      Exactly. If I wanted market-spin disguised as a review I'd subscribe to Ziff-Davis rags.

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    2. Re:Hey Taco by sludg-o · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it is pure hype. Taco didn't make them buy a banner ad because they paid more for a whole story. Did you miss the announcement about slashdot's new policy of posting one story a day that is really a paid advertisement? Here is is, straight from Taco's mouth.

    3. Re:Hey Taco by cachedout · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      Notice the date on the post? It's an April Fool's joke.

    4. Re:Hey Taco by selectspec · · Score: 2

      How do we know this isn't a paid spot? It wouldn't suprize me if /. started selling front page stories.

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    5. Re:Hey Taco by selectspec · · Score: 0, Redundant

      dop it is a paid for slot! What a joke. And there site got /.'d too.

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    6. Re:Hey Taco by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It was a meta joke actually, and you fell for it.

    7. Re:Hey Taco by idontneedanickname · · Score: 1

      Yes, same with all the review sites. All they do is hype the hardware...
      I mean why would anyone want to know about new stuff coming on the market? It's all just advertising for the stuff...

      /sarcasm
      You can say the same of every gadget that's annouced on /. Well maybe they thought we'd like to see this, and judging from the fact the it's already /.'ed, it seems so.

    8. Re:Hey Taco by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 1

      What makes you so sure they didn't buy more than a banner?

    9. Re:Hey Taco by reverius · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Umm... that was an april fools' joke.

      Or didn't you notice the date of the article?

    10. Re:Hey Taco by bangzilla · · Score: 1

      You know it's a paid spot because the discussion does not include and A. Coward posts.

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    11. Re:Hey Taco by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      That's what we thought. Maybe it was actually an announcement cleverly disguised as an April Fool's joke.

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    12. Re:Hey Taco by alphameter · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Some loosely-related thoughts on the "free" press...

      Folks, if you want news, you have to pay newspeople to deliver it to you.

      Want news for free? You're not going to get it. Instead, you'll get advertising and watered-down news pieces, because no business wants to spoil relationships with its paying customers.

      If the creators of South Park have to worry about spoiling relationships, you can imagine what people writing anything more serious must go through.

      So, in the guise of "news" and with little critical analysis or research, major networks recite Pentagon press releases (why would these networks spend extra money when people will watch anyway?), major internet portals reprint corporate press releases, and so on. Is this news?

      Pick a fee-based newspaper today and subscribe.

      And pick one that prints the most, bad news. Any newspaper filled with corporate or political "rah-rah" is not giving you the news that matters. (Want to feel good? Go outside and play. Want to be informed? Read bad news.)

      Anecdotally, Winston Churchill knew to set up an unbiased news agency outside of his own sphere of influence to give him the awful truth.

      Maybe Slashdot should offer two access modes: fee-based without advertising and free with advertising.

      Oh, and please, please -- anyone reading Slashdot -- make sure you vote. Microsoft might have a huge share of the IT market. But, the top .25% of the population has more wealth than the other 99.75%. Bothered by concentration of power and control in the IT market? Be bothered about it elsewhere, too. It affects you more than Microsoft.

  7. Nice but... by Kaypro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think if they increased the form factor slightly so as to incoporate one agp slot, then they'd really have something. Stick in the latest Nvidia or ATI graphics card and you've got a full fledged PC. Or maybe I'm just talking about those Shuttle mini form factor PC's, though I think the Cappuccino with an AGP slot would still be smaller. Might have to stick in an extra fan though...

    1. Re:Nice but... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

      I still droll over this system. Only wish it has an extra PCI slot, but I can deal with only one (perfect fit for my TV card....dahrool!).

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    2. Re:Nice but... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Er drool I mean! You see drool is sticking to my fingers I love this thing so much!

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  8. Startling investigative journalism by darien · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The over all technology of other mini-book PCs around is still far from our achievement today. Take advantage of the new breed PC of tomorrow and experience the next generation way of computing."

    Dude. This is totally a press release. Couldn't somebody at least have stuck a snide comment at the end?? I come to Slashdot for... er... well, I forget, but anyway, adverts masquerading as news reports bomb.

    1. Re:Startling investigative journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yup, google can match the complete first sentence

      Looks like this is the press release.

  9. So... by kerincosford · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdot is just cunt and pasting press releases, and posting them as stories now?

    Lame.

    "PC of tomorrow", indeed.

    1. Re:So... by Maran · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Slashdot is just cunt and pasting press releases"

      I have to ask: An innocent typo, or a habit from conducting "research" off google?

      Maran

    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because you are one of the first to see it. It has been slashdotted now.

  10. A cool idea for a certain type of user by seldolivaw · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been looking at these for a while, and I always think "What use is this? If you want a desktop, get a desktop, if you want portability, get a laptop". But on balance I think this could be cool for a certain type of user who doesn't want a laptop, with its fragility, high cost and tiny screen (I can't stand even 15" monitors...), but does need to carry a computer around to other locations where the requisite peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor) will be easily available -- a telecommuter, maybe, or a college student who travels home a lot (like me!).

    It's undeniably a cool bit of tech, but it's definitely for a niche market.

    1. Re:A cool idea for a certain type of user by driftingAimfully · · Score: 1

      I might be in that niche! I travel to client sites with my ageing notebook and I really need to upgrade. But I don't really need a notebook - this thing is either plugged into a monitor and keyboard on-site or sitting at home. But I do want to carry my own environment around. So, if this thing is significantly cheaper than a notebook (I'm guessing it must be but the site is a little busy right now) then it would be just what I am looking for.

      And would I be right in thinking I could upgrade the memory without paying horrible mobile memory prices?

    2. Re:A cool idea for a certain type of user by GregWebb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I looked at Cappucinos a while back as a small footprint machine. Machine had to go out in a flight case nice and easily but needed normal screen (TFT OK), keyboard and mouse. Last I heard, we were using something else now though. Can't remember what, sorry.

      Problems, as I recall:

      * NOISY! That cooling fan was, wow, loud. Not good.
      * Messy. I know it's small, but I'd accept a slightly larger footprint if it meant all the cables came out in the same place.
      * Icky floppy drive solution. If you want one, how about a docking station? Much tidier.

      For us, it was a nice bit of kit but not that fantastic. Still, interesting.

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    3. Re:A cool idea for a certain type of user by rwj · · Score: 1

      But, you couldn't travel with it now... at least on airlines...

      What're you gonna do when the security person asks you to turn it on so he can see the boot screen...

  11. So... by ShoeHead · · Score: 1

    why do you think this site hasn't been slashdotted yet? The superiority of the Cappuccino line? That extra jolt of caffeine powering their sysadmins?

    Or maybe it's just that they knew about the upcoming load, since they submitted the story?

  12. Why buy this? by echophase · · Score: 1

    "The Mocha P4 PC size advantage makes it ideal for places where space is at a premium or for those who work in several fixed locations at once and want to be able to access the same data everywhere."

    And an external hard drive cannot do that? Saves you about $1000

  13. No appendages by lavaforge · · Score: 2

    I was reading the FAQ and it said that this thing didn't need a monitor or keyboard to boot. This would make a great server because you could shove a lot of these things onto one rack if you wanted to.

    1. Re:No appendages by taliver · · Score: 1

      Oh, but then wouldn't this or this be a significantly better choice?

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    2. Re:No appendages by dondelelcaro · · Score: 1
      I was reading the FAQ and it said that this thing didn't need a monitor or keyboard to boot.
      There are very few i386 machines that actually require a keyboard to boot, and none that require a monitor. Most that "require" a keyboard have a bios setting to ignore keyboard errors (and often video errors, so you don't even have to have a video card...)
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    3. Re:No appendages by lavaforge · · Score: 2

      I was digging through my documentation and I found the jumper of which you speak. Thanks.

    4. Re:No appendages by Kakarat · · Score: 1
      I don't think I would have one as a server. Someone could walk off with it very easily.

      Have you seen the server? I know it was just sitting here on my desk a minute ago. You know, it's 1/4 the size of a shoebox and it contains all our confidential company data...

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    5. Re:No appendages by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

      I....can't resist...the ...urge to say...can't stop it.....grrr....."IMAGINE A BEOWULF CLUSTER OF THESE AROUND YOUR BELT!!!!"....there...whew! I feel better now......

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  14. Next in Line... by 1WingedAngel · · Score: 1

    Jolt PC
    RedBull PC
    Crack PC

    1. Re:Next in Line... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...PCP...

  15. The Guide to Advertising By Stealth on Slashdot by wackybrit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Don't hype up the benefits we've already had for years with existing equipment.

    The Mocha P4 PC size advantage makes it ideal for places where space is at a premium or for those who work in several fixed locations at once and want to be able to access the same data everywhere

    Really? Wow, that's a really new concept. I mean, I could just use the Internet to access the same data from multiple locations.. but no, instead I can lug around a whole PC with me instead! Hang on.. wouldn't I just buy a notebook if I wanted to do that?

    2. Don't blind us with meaningless adjectives.

    Mocha P4 is a PC that is so flexible, efficient, compact and portable technically knocks down all existing desk top PCs.

    Gee whiz. Lots of adjectives. It must be good! How does the size of a computer make it more 'efficient' anyway?

    3. Don't blatantly admit you're connected to the item you're promoting.

    The over all technology of other mini-book PCs around is still far from our achievement today.

    Hemos deserves a big slap down for posting this when this one sentence ADMITS it's just an ad! Other computers are still far from our achievement? Hello editors, this is an ad!

    4. Don't sound so cheesy that anyone still reading will just ignore your ad anyway.

    Take advantage of the new breed PC of tomorrow and experience the next generation way of computing.

    This sounds just as corny as the fake ads in Grand Theft Auto 3 for 'The House of Tomorrow'.

    Have the technology of tomorrow.. today!

    1. Re:The Guide to Advertising By Stealth on Slashdot by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

      Let me help you, cause you forgot the last one ...

      5. Profit

    2. Re:The Guide to Advertising By Stealth on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to say, you have the coolest username on Slashdot. Perhaps I should go get Naqoyqatsi now.

    3. Re:The Guide to Advertising By Stealth on Slashdot by Mike1024 · · Score: 2

      Hey,

      Mocha P4 is a PC that is so flexible, efficient, compact and portable technically knocks down all existing desk top PCs.

      Gee whiz. Lots of adjectives. It must be good! How does the size of a computer make it more 'efficient' anyway?


      I don't think it's exactly flexible either.

      (You see? It's a joke! You can't bend the product.)

      -Michael

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  16. Not only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is the entire text describing this wonderful new device taken directly from the website linked to, this is nothing that the G4 Cube hasn't been able to do faster, quieter (no fan) and with more expansion (want the latest video card? No prob, there's agp. Want a dual processor 1000ghz chip in it? No problem, can be done. This is a lame cube knockoff.

    1. Re:Not only by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

      this is nothing that the G4 Cube hasn't been able to do... quieter (no fan)

      Too bad a lot of G4 owners have reported case-cracking due to the lack of fan, eh?

      Note to Steve Jobs' flunkies: If you're gonna tear the fan out of a computer, make sure the case isn't made of some flimsy shit! A badass beige aluminum case would have been much more appropriate for a G4 than most PCs; it can take the pressure a lot better.

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    2. Re:Not only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dispute faster, and with respect, the point is not expansion but size. I mean what is next saying that the IPaq would be killed by even a low end mac? If you have to stack the odds against your opponent to look good, you are no longer the best canidate.

    3. Re:Not only by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Too bad a lot of G4 owners have reported case-cracking due to the lack of fan, eh?

      Actually the tiny cracks some people reported are a manufacturing defect, and have absolutely nothing to do with heat or the lack of a fan. The cracks are mostly cosmetic, and do not really affect anything but the otherwise flawless appearance of the plastic.

      The G4 Cube has been known to overheat, but usually because of a lack of ventilation or something. With no fan, it is rather sensitive to that sort of thing. Don't ever set anything on top of it, and you might not want to keep it in a hot room.

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    4. Re:Not only by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

      The lack of fan = the lack of ventilation. Maybe I should have made that a little more clear. Still, I'll take a blocky beige aluminum case (that I plan on modding that sh*t out of) that has good ventilation and is a little noisy over a cute sealed plastic one that's absolutely silent.

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    5. Re:Not only by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

      Oh, my god, I've been using Apples for years, I have good reason, Duuuuuuuuuuude...

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    6. Re:Not only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the G4 Cube had just fine ventilation thanks to the convection cell it formed, actually. The cracks that were reported were either do to anal-retentive users bitching about mold lines, or excess vibrations.

    7. Re:Not only by Phroggy · · Score: 2

      The lack of fan = the lack of ventilation. Maybe I should have made that a little more clear.

      Lack of ventilation = blocking the airflow by covering the holes somehow. Maybe I should have made that a little more clear. With a fan it would be more tolerant of that, but if you don't block it off, it works just fine without a fan. My mom is using hers in Guatemala City with no problems.

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    8. Re:Not only by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 1

      The only cracked cases I'm aware of were a manufacturing defect. It'd sure take a lot more heat than a G4-500 generates to crack the case.

      I'm in Phoenix, I keep my house at 90-92F, my cube has no problems.

    9. Re:Not only by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

      have reported case-cracking due to the lack of fan, eh?

      This is much more Steve jobs than a fan. Steve has his various obsessions. I was reading that when the NeXT Cube came out, he wanted an absolute perfect cube. Sounds normal, until you realize that this is actually a bitch to manufacture. Normally you have an imperceptably wider mouth of the mold to make removal easier. Maybe a couple thousandths here or there. But no, Steve wanted perfect sides, baking extraction difficult. Cost a bunch more, he lots some cases because of scratches, but Steve got what he wanted. I remember hearing something similar with the G4 cube, but not exactly, cause i think he learned his lesson on the Black Cube NeXTs.

  17. 500 server error by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Presumably, the server is a Mocha and the P4 has melted its socket or something.

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  18. swell by atarrri · · Score: 1

    A PC/coffee maker? I've been waiting for one of those for years! Can I use my CD-Rom drive as a cup holder?

    1. Re:swell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A PC/coffee maker? You'd be talking about one of these then.

    2. Re:swell by atarrri · · Score: 1

      Sweet! Now all I need is a monitor/toilet and I would never have to leave my computer. I still haven't seen the mocha site. It's really getting hit hard. Anyway, it couldnt possibly beat a nes pc from http://www.retrosystem.com/

  19. Flap stand rocks! by LarsBT · · Score: 1
    Besides the fact that the specs aren't that good.

    E.g. It needs a better graphics card.

    It will be a hit just because of that nifty "Open Flap Stand" feature/thingy. Until now I have used old books for that kind of problems with my old PC. Is the idea patented???

    BTW where is the coffee pot to be placed?

  20. Maybe good for servers? by fishman · · Score: 1

    I always thought these machines would be good as servers. You could have twenty of them serving your site. If one of them dies, just open the drawer and grab a warm standby, plug her in and off you go.

    And it would look pretty cool having a whole drawer full of little PCs...

  21. Confusion.. by Brown · · Score: 1

    ..For a minute I thought I'd somehow got transfered to my spam mailbox or something.

    Seriously, Slashdot stories shouldn't consist purely of the advertising blurb at the top of the manufacturer's webste. Unless they're sponsoring /. or something? It looks just a little over-hyped - it's a small PC, dur...

    Chris

    Yeah yeah, mod me down, I'm not being suitably impressed :-)

  22. Damned kids by moronga · · Score: 5, Funny

    Choosing a big and bulky inappropriate PC has become an obsolete way of thinking.

    Back in my day, all we had was inappropriate PCs. They'd show up for dinner in shorts, and make lewd comments about the hostess.

    Seriously though, there was a time when choosing an inappropriate PC was, er, appropriate? Don't marketing people take English classes anymore?

    1. Re:Damned kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I defy you to find one marketing person who can use the word "revolutionary" correctly.

  23. +1 : Correct by ergo98 · · Score: 1

    How very true. Firstly, text like "the new breed PC of tomorrow" is just pathetic given that there is absolutely nothing revolutionary in it apart from size, but for that we have the "computer of tomorrow" that we call "laptops", and they're even more space efficient. Perhaps they think SPDIF (on low end soundcards, and some motherboard headers) or gigabit LAN is really impressive, however anyone can ad that in their PC if they so desired.

    What's especially laughable, though, is looking at their heatsink (a large piece of copper) and seeing the phrase "patent pending". Give me a break: I think the cookware industry has some prior art on the use of metal to spread heat.

    This is a blatant advertisement, and nothing less. Was Slashdot kidding when they had the april fools story stating that they'd intermix ads with real articles?

  24. LAN Parties by Senator_B · · Score: 1

    these should be great for lan parties. its a real pain in the ass to lug around a full sized pc, but laptops are just too expensive and not powerful enough to use.

    1. Re:LAN Parties by agent0range_ · · Score: 1

      Maybe you could manage a shuttle SS51, or is that still too heavy for you?

    2. Re:LAN Parties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, except for the Alienware laptop with the 2.4GHz P4 (no M) and mobility Radeon which will apparently be able to run Doom 3 full bore. If only nVidia would come out with a fully dx8 compliant mobile chip...

  25. should have not run it on IIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dead as a door nail, the site that is. should have run it on UNIX.

  26. Press Release Prostitution by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 1

    I guess we're going to have to get used to this, or look elsewhere. Cut and paste your press release into Slashdot for a new fresher taste... Marketing spooge bukkake fest for /. ?

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    1. Re:Press Release Prostitution by TellarHK · · Score: 2

      I'm scared. I just laughed my ass off at a sentence with 'Bukkake' in it.

      And how totally appropriate it is, too.

  27. Needed more Ad Revenue? by Zapdos · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much does it cost to have my ad ran as a /. Story?

    1. Re:Needed more Ad Revenue? by sielwolf · · Score: 2, Insightful
      How much does it cost to have my ad ran as a /. Story?


      Don't know. Maybe you should ask Jon Katz?
      --
      What is music when you despise all sound?
    2. Re:Needed more Ad Revenue? by ChadN · · Score: 1

      How much does it cost to have my ad ran as a /. Story?

      It costs $200 cash, and your soul... (or $500 and all your self respect, for those that have already sold their soul)

      --
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    3. Re:Needed more Ad Revenue? by rlangis · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just make sure your server can handle the subsequent slashdotting. The Capuccino server didn't.

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  28. Mod parent up! +3 (Funny) by jargonCCNA · · Score: 1

    [n/t]

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  29. Bah, I'll stick with my full tower by Com2Kid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have seen reviews of these things that say that we should all throw away our full towers and buy one of these instead.

    Like hell.

    My A/V PC has 5 PCI devices and 4 IDE devices, my 3D workstation has 5 PCI back plates used up (various extenders from other cards) and 3 actual PCI slots in use, along with a mere 3 IDE devices (it is going to get a CDRW so make that 4 IDE devices soon now), and;

    oh yah;

    each one of my steel full muthafucking tower cases?

    Doubles.

    As

    A stepladder.

    BIZZOOOOOOTCH!

    1. Re:Bah, I'll stick with my full tower by Mike1024 · · Score: 2
      each one of my steel full muthafucking tower cases?

      Doubles.

      As

      A stepladder.

      BIZZOOOOOOTCH!

      --
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      Take a moment to read that sig before moving on, please.

      -Michael
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    2. Re:Bah, I'll stick with my full tower by Eil · · Score: 2


      Muahaha, excellent post. I agree completly. Although I don't plan on buying another full-tower case in the near future, my current one kicks ass and there are only a few mid-towers where you can hook up dual 10K rpm SCSI disks *and* still be able to cool them properly.

      And yeah, I've used my computer as a seat, keyboard stand, etc, but it does kinda suck to lug it, along with a 19" monitor, to a lanparty.

      Small PCs have their place, though. I'm looking at getting one of those cute little Shuttle cube jobs for use as a set-top box (NOT a PVR) that I'm designing. Then again, a whirring full-tower with loads of blinking lights next to the entertainment center might make quite a conversation piece for the living room...

    3. Re:Bah, I'll stick with my full tower by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Then again, a whirring full-tower with loads of blinking lights next to the entertainment center might make quite a conversation piece for the living room...


      Why bother with the entertainment center when you have a PC? Seriously, if you have the cash (by which I mean LOADS of it) just go all PC man.

      Good high end sound card with decoding of whatever you want, HDTV or just plain old TV in, and go for one of those sweet 42inch plasma monitor outs (or component out to whatever display unit you already have running, heh. I guess a $16k screen would be a bit, err, hehe, over the top. :-D That is for the computer model of course, the regular TV resolution 42inchers are cheap(er). :-D )

      The computer can handle the DVD easy as can be, and even VCR is not that much of a problem (I got my generic BT Chipset TV-In card for $20 at a computer swap meet, hehe. S-Video in and all)

      Really no need to /have/ an entertainment center, quite frankly the latest multi-gigahertz CPU from who ever will be able to decode/encode/transcode whatever you need to where ever you need it far better then any other piece of kit you'll be able to buy. And since it is all (or at least mostly) software based, any quality issues can be fixed with something less drastic then a new $x00(0) receiver

    4. Re:Bah, I'll stick with my full tower by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Take a moment to read that sig before moving on, please.

      -Michael



      Why do you think the writting style is so disjointed? :-D

  30. Slashvertisements by sludg-o · · Score: 4, Funny

    God, these "Slashvertisements" are getting pretty bad.

  31. OFFTOPIC?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have a poster directly responding to the adver.. I mean, NEWS, and someone marks him OFFTOPIC??

    Oh, I get it. There's no "-1: Wrong" moderation.

    Last I heard, on-topic opinions were usually Insightful, Overrated, or Underrared... but never "offtopic".

    Abustive moderators should be banned.

    1. Re:OFFTOPIC?!? by wackybrit · · Score: 1

      I think I have a editor stalker. I had a comment a few days ago modded down as on-topic, despite the fact it wasn't and that it went onto to get 4, Insightful, or something like that.

      Doesn't really bother me though, but it'd piss me off if I was a newbie here trying to get some karma.

    2. Re:OFFTOPIC?!? by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      I think I have a editor stalker. I had a comment a few days ago modded down as on-topic, despite the fact it wasn't and that it went onto to get 4, Insightful, or something like that.

      I'm just going out on a limb here, but I suspect that you might want to consider your user website link a possible reason why you got modded down.

  32. Re:This is cooler - no it's not it's a 404 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's 404 not found, dude. Too bad, I really wanted to buy one as well. :-)

  33. Hey, obligatory /and/ on-topic to the comment! by jargonCCNA · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those...

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  34. slashdotted! by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    actually it's a punishment for trying to submit sh** like this.. tsiihii.

    mandatory beowulf cluster of these included

    --
    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  35. What's that smell?Well here a steaming pile of s.. by connect7 · · Score: 1

    Please! can someone delete this thread and ban the user that would post this POS. Give me a break. Anyone that would waste their money and believe the BS this user posted deserves what they get. Just show's how little anyone interested in this POS really knows about computing. oh yes.. this is crap and scum advertising. what's next a pop-up ?

  36. Why bother by Strolling+Pastel · · Score: 1

    I can't believe people are bothering to respond to this PR nonscense.. you'd never find me respoding to an advert thinly veiled as a story...probably...ahem, erm, yeah got me there

  37. Why was this posted? by ColGraff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This reads so much like an advertisement, it isn't even funny. Since when are product plugs - blatant ones! - news for nerds or stuff that matters?

    --
    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
    1. Re:Why was this posted? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since when are product plugs - blatant ones! - news for nerds or stuff that matters?

      Whenever they're about:
      1)The Next Big Thing(TM)
      2)*NIX
      3)LotR
      4)Star Wars

      --
      If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
  38. Why get a laptop? by writermike · · Score: 1

    Some folks ask: "Why not get a laptop?"

    Well, a laptop can be less than ideal in some situations. I know video professionals who would prefer a small-space PC to a laptop because some of the cuts laptop manufacturers make for battery life. Slower hard drives, slower CPUs, etc.

    A small-scale, otherwise full-fledged PC is a great idea. It's portable, in an Apple //c way, and it's very powerful, unlike even the most high-end laptops.

    --
    If Nalgene water bottles are outlawed, only outlaws will have Nalgene water bottles.
    1. Re:Why get a laptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do video on a Powerbook G4. Since this crowd is pc-centric;

      http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area5 1- m.asp

    2. Re:Why get a laptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My lapop has a P4 1.7Ghz and a ATI Mobility Radeon 7500.

      It does everything for me(along with my firewire drive).

      I carry it in my backpack. If I'm going somewhere and need to bring a computer along, I might as well lug a bit more around to get everything I need.

      What LAN party am I gonna goto where they have 15 extra monitors for me to use?

  39. Es no grande by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Choosing a big and bulky inappropriate PC has become an obsolete way of thinking. Some of us still like the penile additions a full tower case affords.

  40. Reasons not to buy this thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Not as expandable and upgradeable as a desktop
    - Much more expensive than a traditional desktop

  41. And if you act now ... by Wordsmith · · Score: 2

    And if you act now, we'll get it to you gfor just three EASY payments of $19.95! Call while supplies last!

  42. /.ed by TeXMaster · · Score: 1

    Site slashdotted when I tried to connect. Not so good advertising, after all, if I can't have a look at it, is it?

    --
    "I'm never quite so stupid as when I'm being smart" (Linus van Pelt)
  43. Re:This is cooler - no it's not it's a 404 by yasth · · Score: 1

    This might work better.

    The Specs suck the price sucks, and you still have the whole keyboard dies = dead computer thing, but it looks cool.

    --
    I'd do something interesting, but my server can't handle a slashdotting.
  44. If it is a paid ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think they would have hardened the server a little more in preparation.

    They could have put a locker of these Mochas on the other side of the router, the content of their ad would have reached the other half of the slashdot audience that only checks once an hour or less.

  45. Sets off every anti-BS alarm in my body! by TopherC · · Score: 5, Funny

    See the latest in innovation! Totally changes the way you work, and even think about working! Far superior to unsightly cabinets of dusty electronics, and for a price that is astounding! If you decide to keep it, we'll refund half the purchase price. This is so revolutionary that it makes the PC obsolete. Stop by, and you'll get a free onion!

    1. Re:Sets off every anti-BS alarm in my body! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, reminds me of that cell phone antenna booster card i returned today. "as seen on TV" my a..

  46. /.ed already. I dunno about this PC by pardasaniman · · Score: 1

    I dunno about this PC but I guess it just couldn't take the slashdotting

  47. the prob with these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    disclaimer: i am a reseller of this type of computer.
    now that we've gotten that out of the way. i just got to give my two cents on this type of computer. i mean the shuttle shoebox systems, various other flex-atx based systems like the microstar 6215 series and others by asus and fic, and this mocha. they are great if you really need something small, but the use of proprietary formfactors makes service problematic. as long as you realize that when the powersupply dies you have to mail it to california for replacement you'll be ok.
    the shuttle ss51 now has agp - we sell this with ti 4400 for good gaming. this mocha thing is way expensive, it uses a notebook cdrom drive (>$200), you really pay for the "convenience". - see here

  48. Already Slashdotted... by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

    Are they running their webserver on one of these? Yeesh, count me out...

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    Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
  49. OT: what is that server running? by realkiwi · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or do NT4/IIS with crummy .asp pages fall aver under very light load???

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    realkiwi
    1. Re:OT: what is that server running? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      people leaving open dozens if not hundreds of database threads

      Most of those people probably believed the microsoft documentation when it said that IIS would handle db connection pooling for them.

      It doesn't.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  50. Available in UK? by pubjames · · Score: 2


    Anyone know where you can get one of these in the UK?

    1. Re:Available in UK? by Ralph+Bearpark · · Score: 2
      Anyone know where you can get one of these in the UK?

      Yes, here.

      Regards, Ralph.

    2. Re:Available in UK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, indeed, here.

  51. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  52. What's up with the intro? by md358 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the guy who submitted the article sells them for a living.

  53. These are cool by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

    I don't car eif it is a press release or not. Small PC's like this have a TON of uses I can come up with in less than 30 seconds:

    MP3 Server in car
    GPS navigation in car
    Wearable (with proper battery pack)
    Internet terminal in car for passengers

    Telematic Solution (Voice navigation, MP3, Internet fed by a 3G cel phone providing all sorts of services with TTS for the driver and a LCD for passengers...ends the are we there yet questions of kids).

    Stick it in your kitchen, bedroom, bathroom or hall closet.

    Listen. Not everyone needs a fire breathing machine to surf the net or word process. Not everone plays quake (I'm a geek and I don't). Not everyone needs a 400 dollar video card. My neighbor has a 2-3 year old machine and is perfectly happy with it. It does everything he needs. Personally, I am ready for an upgrade myself, but not even to a top end machine. I need the processor power, but don't need a Geforce 4. I will be happy with something that just processes a hair faster then my Duron 700. I'd be happy with the 1.2 Ghz machine you threw out yesterday.

    --

    Gorkman

    1. Re:These are cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was about to be my point..and matter of factly, I have one of the older models (1st gen) that is going into my car for all the purposes you said.

      I recently purchased it for $350 and have the spare parts needed to complete it...all I need now is a nice $800 overpriced in-dash LCD screen and I am set.

  54. Commodore 256? by FreeLinux · · Score: 2

    This looks like an updated Commodore 128. Perhaps a C-256?

    1. Re:Commodore 256? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Do you mean a B256?

      (Yes, it says 700, but the naming conventions were odd. Here's a relative.

      Check out the rest of the SWoC site; CBM's internal design bureau was quite interesting, as they used their own custom chips (SID and VIC, followed by the acquired Amiga chipset) to produce a wild array of machines. Unfortunately, they built a few too many on the business front in those early years, with too many incompatibilities to really take on Apple or IBM. You still occasionally see a B128 or similar running as a terminal to some ancient mini setup.

      Kind of a shame they didn't push the Amiga 3000UX harder, or didn't keep the 900 when they acquired the Amiga (which was meant to have had a slightly more *NIXalike OS at launch)...

  55. Re:So..it's been /.'ed, here's a google cache link by hype7 · · Score: 1
    why do you think this site hasn't been slashdotted yet? The superiority of the Cappuccino line? That extra jolt of caffeine powering their sysadmins?

    Or maybe it's just that they knew about the upcoming load, since they submitted the story?


    ha ha! don't you look like the fool, now it has been slashdotted :)

    Anyway, before you ask, I don't work for the cappuccino company, but for interested parties, here's Google's cache of the page.

    Cheers

    -- james
  56. If you're gonna advertise it on slashdot.... by Satan's+Librarian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why don't you have it on ThinkGeek yet? Still selling the old stale cappucino there.... Methinks the marketroids didn't plan this well, and instead are just annoying would-be-news-readers.

  57. Yeah, and when you do an advertisement like this.. by thelinuxking · · Score: 2

    Be sure to make sure your site is even up AT ALL! The site doesn't take forever, it just doesn't exist!

    However, if it was taken down by the slashdot effect, it proves that more people click on story links rather than banner ads...but everyone already knew that :-)

  58. The Brick! by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 2
    This is nothing new. Years ago, early 90s, they had the Ergo Brick.

    The interesting thing is that it was a metal case, and the CPU had thermal gel to cool the CPU through the case.

    1. Re:The Brick! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      the shuttles boxes_with_mobos have kinda neat cpu coolers too, utilizing heatpipes.

      http://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/shuttle/ss51/ss5 1g p1.htm

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  59. its a pretty obvious self advertising but... by Adler · · Score: 1

    at least we crushed their server!

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    Everybody denies I am a genius--but nobody ever called me one!

  60. Next Generation Web Server by shatfield · · Score: 2, Informative

    Their site is giving an "500 Internal Error"... Perhaps they should look into the next generation Operating System and Web Server as well.

    --
    "To make a mistake is only human; to persist in a mistake is idiotic." Cicero
  61. Here's why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
    Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
    Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 17:50:58 GMT
    Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Length: 87

  62. No AGP ??? by pjrc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Another poster pointed out that this thing lacks an AGP slot. Very uncool.

    A couple days ago, Robin and I were playing Neverwinter Nights (yes, I broke down and rebooted, but I _still_ want the linux version). A friend called and we invited him over to play. He brought a low-end 1.1 GHz celeron machine he picked up at Fry's a couple months ago, and a fresh copy of NWN (yes, we're all very geeky... even Robin... see our website for more info about us)

    Turns out he couldn't play. The on-board video was so slow you couldn't even navigate the menus. I had a machine (in need of some service) with a GeForce3 card in it, so we pulled the card and poped out his box... only to find that it lacked an AGP slot. I guess the $300 price tag for the box (it has linux pre-installed, he installed XP onto it) is a reasonable excuse, maybe.

    But if you're slinging bullshit like:

    Take advantage of the new breed PC of tomorrow and experience the next generation way of computing

    and it can't even be upgraded with a (current) game-capable graphics card, how can anyone consider is an expereince of next generation computing.

    and to add a bit of poetic justice, this shameful ad copy only got their site slashdotted, so potential customers for this lame "next generation way of computing" are getting nothing more than HTTP/1.1 Server Too Busy. Maybe they should have used a LARGER and more capable computer!

    1. Re:No AGP ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A couple days ago, Robin and I were playing Neverwinter Nights

      Who are you... Batman?

      Though this story reminds me of the time me and Jake went down to the river to catch some trout. Then Andy was like "whoa, what are you guys doing here?" Steve was in the bushes wiping his ass. A good laugh was had by all, especially Rhonda.

      Sigh.

    2. Re:No AGP ??? by pjrc · · Score: 2
      Who are you... Batman?

      You could have followed the link to our website, and then clicked on About Paul/Robin. The message even says "(yes, we're all very geeky... even Robin... see our website for more info about us)".

      Oh well.

  63. Missing the point? by Tony · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seems the manufacturer wants to advertise on Slashdot. Okay, fine, whatever. Even sneaking it in as a real submission is fine. I don't own slashdot.

    But, what the hell do they mean, "next generation way of computing?" First, what does that even mean? And secondly, what have they done to back it up?

    The answers: nothing, and nothing. In that order.

    Seems they think the next generation of computers are merely smaller than the current generation. They don't do anything truly useful, like digitize you and put you on the game grid; they are the same as the bigger, current generation, only more restricted.

    First, it uses 2.5" hard drives, which are slow and expensive, making it a bad choice for software development. Second, you can't simply use the latest video cards, rendering it useless for high-end gaming.

    So, if the hard drive is too slow for development, and the video is too slow for high-end gaming, what use is it?

    If it's merely small, I will use an ITX mobo and case, or a uATX if I want the latest processor.

    I don't know why I just spent so much time responding to blatant advertising; I guess it's just a slow day.

    --
    Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
  64. Blade-Based? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, this is an interesting point... are the little guys actually running a blade-based board design inside? They appeared around the same time, and it'd make some sense.. if you could find the space on a Blade board to reserve for the audio/etc connections, just solder those things on for the 'consumer edition' and put it in a cute case...

  65. Want to sell more Book PCs? by brad3378 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    then either get rid of those half-height PCI slots or find me a TV tuner card that will fit in one!

    I want to buy a Book PC for my home entertainment center, but I can't for the life of me find one that I can put a TV tuner card inside. USB tuners suck, so don't waste your time pointing me in that direction.

    --

  66. and it still sucks by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    because they still won't integrate a decent video chipset.. Come on a geforce2 would do some amazing things in it and is a bargan basement video chipset now. This is the year 2002.. they can stop using the absolute cheapest video chipsets in these integrated computers.

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    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  67. 500 server error or crap IIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Are you going to buy hardware from folks dumb enough to try to run a business with MS-IIS? I think not...

    Make you wonder what other major clues they are missing.

  68. One more suck ass slashdot story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe its not BSD that is dieing, mabye its slashdot.

  69. Druthers by Fjord · · Score: 2

    I'd rather get this.

    sweet sweet transmeta chip with log lasting battery (I'd get the 10 hour battery).

    --
    -no broken link
  70. useful for the mobile technologist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been close to buying one of these for a while. I travel alot and do demos that require multiple machines. Today, I either carry up to 4 laptops or use VMWare which slows everything down. Sure its nowhere near as powerful as any of my laptops (P4/1GHzRam, etc), but they mean I could carry two separate servers in the space of one....because often even the brightest customers 'get it' a lot quicker when I can have multiple physical boxes rather than vm's. And carrying less after hours of traveling on a plane sounds really nice.

  71. OSDN is having a bad couple of days by madmancarman · · Score: 2
    First, Taco posts a story about The Two Towers being traded online with the only source being The Drudge Report and despite the near certainty that the movie is still being worked on.

    Then, Taco reposts a story about a 'universal remote control' that timothy posted on Saturday (it's still listed on the front page of slashdot over on the right).

    Then, Taco posts this very obvious press release/advertisement about a small form-factor PC and slashdots the poor manufacturer's web site. I guess that's what you get for advertising on slashdot when you run IIS.

    Does this have anything to do with OSDN's recent decision to close FreeCode? I guess I would be a little jittery if my parent company closed down one of its subsidiaries. Of course, that wouldn't qualify as "News for nerds. Stuff that matters" as much as the CappucinoPC press release, so that won't be posted today.

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi

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    1. Re:OSDN is having a bad couple of days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DaveCentral closed also.
      http://www.davecentral.com/

  72. I liked this idea better... by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 1

    When it was call the G4 Cube.

    --
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
  73. Quality Control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From their website:

    In order that you can achieve better procurement of key components and cost control, we ship the barebone or SKD system only. The barebone system shipped out is normally without CPU, HDD, and RAM. Therefore, we provide an easily way on proper assembly of additional components.

    What did they do, use babel to create the page? This has GOT to make you wonder about their overall QA process....

  74. This is history in the making... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone gets posted to the front page, and yet they fail to get slashdotted.

  75. How is checking out WorldNetDaily gonna help? by Ride-My-Rocket · · Score: 2

    Perhaps you only meant to imply that WorldNetDaily was an example of a site that was properly coded to be scalable (insomuch as is possible with IIS/VBScript) -- this is what I assume, anyway. But you wouldn't be able to tell any of that just by going to the site..........

  76. /. != News, Lather, Rinse, Repeat by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2
    These little boxen little brothers look sweet. I love the size and the price isn't really all that bad. But it would rock if they could squeeze in a mobile Radeon 9000 for video, a next-gen GeForce mobile when it's released (GeForce4 Go doesn't cut it with next-gen games, e.g. Doom III). Still using VGA instead of DVI?

    Now for the naysayers complaining about journalistic integrity. Once again Slashdot is not a newspaper, it's a blog. CmdrTaco, Hemos, and the gang are not journalists, they're geeks. Yeah, the article is pretty much hyping something - I think the Cappucino line is pretty cool, just like the Shuttle line of mini-PCs. Is this an "ad" in disguise? Opinions are like assholes...that's why /. has a comments section. Sheesh.

  77. From the mouths of salesmen 2 u by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great idea, just cut and paste from the website... if you hadn't done that I never would have realized that "Choosing a big and bulky inappropriate PC has become an obsolete way of thinking". Keep up the good work.

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  79. Firewall Box by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

    I haven't seen this page, looks like it's slashdotted for the next few hours, but i wanted a cheap small firewall box. I like the form factor of the old Qubes, but they're not cheap. Whats a good box to go for? I saw the cappuccino and it was pricey even without the second network card. I don't care about video at all, if I can get a serial console and even delete the video if it would save me a few bucks. As a firewall it doesn't have to be a burner CPU, and get a decent hard drive and I'm set. Is there a standard small form factor that i can get? Something like a cheap celeron, a hard drive, and two network cards, and I think that would be what I needed.

    1. Re:Firewall Box by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

      Go out to your local flea market, hunt around for an old 486. Slap your fav distro of *nix on there, add NICs to taste and whammo. Instant low cost firewall.

      (Mine's an AST 486/SX33 with 16megs of RAM and 2 500 meg HD's. Runs like a champ, can forward way more ports than any cheap router, and can even runs a thing or two for me.)

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  80. New Category Proposal by brad3378 · · Score: 2

    How about a new category named Free Advertising?

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  81. Ah! by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    Thanks for the clarification.

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  82. Bad hard drives for a server by Wee · · Score: 2
    It uses microdrives (near as I can tell; the free advertsing from /. killed their server). That's not too swell a choice for a server that needs to do any significant amount of I/O. The RLX blades use similarly slow drives, but at least with those you can easliy cluster or load balance. They can even use two drives, so striping might be a solution (as long as you didn't care about the data all that much).

    Having said that, if you used the Mocha with some sort of NAS device like a NetApp then you might have something. IMO, the RLX stuff is still a better solution, though. At least with those you can mirror the boot drive.

    Of course, I'm just pulling all this outta the air, so take as many grains of salt as needed.

    -B

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  83. HTTP/1.1 Server Too Busy by nagaicho · · Score: 1

    Why would you pay for your website to be slashdotted?

  84. Argh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sucks.

    It is like... the wuss computer.

  85. It may be an ad... by Perdo · · Score: 2

    But so are all the articles about the shuttle mini pc, apple imac/g4/OSX/emac, Linux distro releases, Intel, Amd, etc..

    Almost every other news item!

    You want "News for Nerds" to be exclusively about the RIAA, MPAA, and case mods?

    Hell no.

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  86. First post!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just kidding... but I haven't seen any AC posts at all! I needed to know that they weren't being blocked...

  87. Heat problems by Wonko42 · · Score: 2
    I've got a Cappuccino GX1 (the second-gen Cappuccino), and I really love it except for one major hitch: heat. If it's doing anything other than idling, the processor generates tons of heat, and that heat has nowhere to go but into the tiny insufficient heatsink or into the hard drive, which is mashed right up next to the processor. This results in crashes after about 24 hours of uptime.

    In the end, I had to take the case off the Cappuccino, remove the proprietary heatsink/ducted fun, jury-rig an old Athlon heatsink and fan to the processor and splice the power cable into the motherboard. I also removed the metal casing around the hard drive, which was retaining heat. Now, with this massive heatsink bulging out of the top, my Cappuccino will run for about a week before it locks up. Still not terribly reliable.

    If this new Mocha (which is actually the 5th-gen, not the 3rd) has a better cooling system, it'll be well worth the money. Otherwise, it's a total waste. Unfortunately the page is Slashdotted and there's no Google cache, so I can't get any details.

  88. Hmmm... Maybe Taco's coming out laughing by Durindana · · Score: 1

    Chew on this - Slashdot doesn't necessarily have to sell its soul to keep running these horrid Slashvertisements. Solution? Make them so cheezy and stupid, no matter that product, that the whole community collectively chokes and pukes. Witness this thread - every modup is a big stream of crap onto the obvious sales pitch. Effect? Negative publicity for a (wannabe) gee-whiz product.

    Pretty postmodern Internet.

    Caveat: Ads for products people really want, like that wee Zaurus.

  89. Maybe they should have by Lispy · · Score: 1

    connected a big and bulky inappropriate PC wich would have been up to the task...grrrr...

  90. One word. by zapfie · · Score: 1

    Slashvertisements!

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  91. Did you say efficient? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Mocha P4 is a PC that is so flexible, efficient, compact and portable technically knocks down all existing desk top PCs

    Efficient? Are you sure it's still running a P4?

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  92. Mod me up! by 3583+Bytes+Free · · Score: 1

    Are you looking for an insightful, funny or informative post? There is a new comment on Slashdot that fits the bill - and you are reading it right now! This post is so well-written, efficient with words, and quotable that it virtually knocks the socks off all "old-school" posts with their outmoded, obsolete logic, construction and grammar. Take advantage of the latest in slashdot posting technology and mod this post up!

  93. More info about this little advertisement... by pclinger · · Score: 2

    ThinkGeek has been selling the "Cappuccino TX-3" mini-PC from this same company for a while now. How much do you want to bet that they're making a commission on all sales that come in today at the Cappuccino PC Web site?

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  94. Back to the drawing board by eddeye · · Score: 1

    Before you pay for a 'slashvertisement', you might wanna make sure your web server can handle the load...

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  95. Slash-and-burn-vertisments by mansa · · Score: 1

    hmm.

    I don't know if I'd pay to get my webserver slashdotted. I hope a mocha isn;t being used as the webserver.

  96. Question.... by SageLikeFool · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If a person was to "subscribe" to Slashdot, do they still see this kind of fluffy paid for article? Do they get an option to filter such stories out?

  97. ASP and CFM never stand a chance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can guarantee you that assholes who run ASP and CFM never stand a snowball's chance in hell against a good slashdotting. Whatever happened to good old HTML files? Jeezus..... there are only 179 comments in this thread and it's a fucking holiday in the USA.... these guys need to get a real web host!

  98. Even less of a reason to read /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    guess I can be dropping down to visiting once a day now. Not like I'm missing anything but advertisements.

  99. Slashdotted... No wonder: by LongShip · · Score: 1
    Netcraft says:
    The site www.cappuccinopc.com is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98.
  100. Call within the next 10 minutes.... by thumbtack · · Score: 1

    And we'll include a second one Absolutely Free!

  101. Keeping it cool? by thumbtack · · Score: 1

    This been a concern of mine when considering one, but then again it would fit in a desktop drink coooler. Forget water cooled or Billion CFM fans. Just crank the refrig.

  102. Re:So..it's been /.'ed, here's a google cache link by Wonko42 · · Score: 2

    That's not the page. That's the TX3. The new one mentioned in the article is the Mocha. The TX3 is old news. There's no Google cache of the Mocha page.

  103. At The Least... by Snover · · Score: 1

    They could mark a story as an advertisement. Not that this story ISN'T completely blatant, but some of the others aren't (quite as much).

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  104. All it's missing is.... by alienmole · · Score: 1

    ...only $19.95! Not available in stores!

  105. Hemos and the "Oooh shiny!" phenomenon by alienmole · · Score: 2
    Hemos didn't stand a chance: there were two links in the first sentence, one for a cool product he already knew about (available from Thinkgeek), and another link to its brand-new successor. The rest of the text could have been a treatise on the wonderful privacy features of Window XP, and it would have gotten through unedited.

    The "Oooh shiny!" phenomenon (aka ADD) strikes again...

  106. I wonder how much it cost to place that thread? by CathedralRulz · · Score: 1

    And was CowboyN paid in cash or oral sex?

  107. Just wanting portable PC w/ full-size components? by lute3 · · Score: 1
    For about $750, This has every feature I can come up with except for TV-in/capture (and you can do that over USB 2.0 or Firewire). It's cheaper than the Cappuccino and it comes with a screen!

    It uses full-sized PC133 RAM and CPU. There are AMD and Intel versions of each of the two models (this makes it look like four models on the site).

  108. Correction, DDR RAM, not PC133. by lute3 · · Score: 1

    What he said.

  109. Mirror by geekindustries · · Score: 1
    Below you'll find a mirror for your convience.

    HTTP/1.1 Server Too Busy

    I am assuming that the server was hosted from the mocha machine, and that the P4's thermal protection kicked in before it melted itself into the socket. (Reminds me of this.) If the "little machine that could" survives a slashdotting it would be a neat proof of concept and even a potential marketing angle.

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  110. Mocha PC = Latte by Thrashing+Rage · · Score: 1

    The Mocha is a name used by that distributor of the Latte made by Saintsong, in Taiwan http://www.saintsong.com.tw. Seems its not on their website anymore. Here is the page of the US Distributor (Intraplex Corp) http://www.intraplexcorp.com/Latte.asp

  111. Exactly what does a /. editor do? by clickety6 · · Score: 2

    I mean, what exactly is involved in selecting stories for inclusion on the site, because it doesn't seem to involve much editing! No checking to see if articles are repeated. No checking to see if a submission accurtaley refelcts the original story. No checking to see if a submission advocates illegal activities. No checking to see if a submission is just blatant advertising. I'm sure many professional editors would be mortified to see their job title being used in this way. Come on guys, shape up a bit! You have a great site here. A few screwups are ok, but you do need to keep to some standards!

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  113. Could be interesting... by repvik · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if the product in this sudden free advertisement can use linuxbios? In that case, I can actually use a couple of them :P

  114. slashdot != pcweek by Greedo · · Score: 1

    Oooh look! Someone copied the sales blurb from their website and submitted it as a "story".

    Or is this a subtle way for /. to make some money: disguise advertising as information?

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  115. Blatant good, hidden bad by edwilli · · Score: 1

    I prefer the blatant ones. I can ignore them instead of getting sucked into clicking on a link.

  116. Blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since this is a Slasvertisement, this comment shouldn't post.