the multiple levels of stupid in the implication in your statement is inexcusable
stop believing revisionist history. stop being so fucking gullible. Look up the history of the idea of the flat world, just for starters. Then put these things in perspective: in various civilizations, some of the very few artifacts that survived imply that the people who used them believed something. The truth is the vast majority of people were not invested in believing any such thing, and that there were likely other in comparable proportion that believed something contradictory.
the phenomenon of "academic consensus" was not so widespread in ancient times as it is today in the authoritarian dogma-laden academia of today.
There's nothing wrong with nudity you brainwashed little nerd. Unlike you, not everyone is conditioned to blow their load at the sight of a nude woman, so not everyone is afraid of developing some kind of preternatural affection toward immature girls by happening to see one without clothes on. God I hate that people like you have kids. Neurosis may be common (and thereby justifiable to weak-minded fools like you) but it is not good.
It's part of the trend of the "tenderizing" industry: businesses that create products that compromise people emotionally and cause them to be distracted. It's good for the economy under the current system as a whole. But it's awful for the people.
This is literally the same as the case of tobacco companies marketing to children.
But the problem was never the tobacco companies themselves, just like the problem isn't Tinder now. It's that the leaders of our society are the kind of people who promote and see value in these things. The immediate harm ends up besides the point: this society is poison for 99% of everyone.
Okay I'm sorry, I'm dealing with a retard here, I was giving you too much credit. Yes cherrypick the part you want to address. Completely wrap yourself up in a false implication that if valid is nothing but accessory to the argument and THEN address the entire statement.
Do you have any idea how tiny the proportion of cases of rape with clear-cut evidence are, like the cases you mentioned? "Plenty"? Plenty enough for what? For you to use an excuse for completely abandoning your rational faculties in perceiving the world around you?
You are so low in your consciousness. You are stuck, focused on an point that is several layers behind the important point that was addressed.
You have no argument against the parent, but you want to object, so like the little rat you are you chew at the corner hoping the contents will spill out.
Just to help you with your horrible reading comprehension:
Authority decides objectivity. That is becoming a simpler and simpler truth. The authority of our society is unjust. As long as it stands, there is no justice.
having the shit beaten out of you is not the worst thing. being raped is not the worst thing. maybe some of the blame should be on you for your acts of free will that led to these circumstances? That's not even a question usually. Because free will has been removed from most people by the current authority. It's simply a matter of removing the parts of the machine that are working counter to its function. This is injustice because the parts are greater than the machine itself. They are more complex and wonderful and have far more potential to fulfill humanity.
But hey, I guess the pittance you get from your job is enough to ignore all of this and to ignore any possible questioning of your circumstances. If you ever get any real success it will be even more reason to go with the flow! Apparently it boils down to a question of character, and most people have all of theirs removed at a young age.
Listen guy, you should stop blaming your ignorance and lack of will to imagine on other people. Or is it your illiteracy?
"a decision for the jury to make"
oh god. juries exist for the sole reason to remove objectivity from the judgement. guess how often that works in favor of those against an authority? Juries are witnesses too.
This relates to my point very much. Witnesses are conditioned to pass judgement. Their morality interferes with their objectivity. They live lives in which their main function is to judge "good" or "bad". Most people are not really people. They've given up too much of their rational faculties that nature gave them. They are sorting machines.
Technology enables objectivity, yet we rely on subjective interpretation as much as ever. Proof of crookedness, if you care to estimate the dimensions honestly.
What a world of funhouse mirrors you must live in. You have no imagination. You honestly think imagination has no place in your view of the world. Good job letting the world have its way with you!
You are asking me to tailor-make a persuasive presentation for you specifically.
Instead, I ask you, what is the proof that any man who as ever been accused of sexual harassment or rape actually did it? Finding his DNA inside her? What if it was consentual?
There is no way, no way at all, to bring this matter into objective terms. That is obvious, all lawmakers would see this, and so they know it and made these laws anyway. Why? Who has no real grip on objectivity? Women. Okay make some animal noises. "SEXIST!!!!". But it's true. It's a consequence of biology. The proof is in sexual dimorphism. They have strengths against men, but it is not in their rationality. A strong argument is in our history. Men have had much more immediate need for quick thinking in objective matters, and so they were selected to be rational above women. Exploration, combat, construction, etc. For hundreds of thousands of years men surpassed women in these ways. Sexual dimorphism not only in humans but in all apes proves this pattern is even more ancient in some aspects, going back millions of years. I digress.
Women needed to be placated so they would be economically productive in the new paradigm. But that's not the main point. It was not women's instinctual behavior that was the problem for the industrializing world; they would go to work regardless of having children to watch etc. The main point was to subdue the instincts of men. They are more complex in the problems they cause for society. This was a golden chance for the society to establish a regiment of constant whipping against men. By punishing their sexual instincts, they encourage them to be mentally weak and compliant. They remove their ability to be fulfilled, not just be removing the possibility for most to mate easily, but removing the possibility to even attempt mating. The extreme cases being homosexuals who would never attempt mating and indeed find it disgusting to participate in.
Just like all law, this is a way to destroy those who would challenge the status quo.
In the modern world eye witnesses mean absolutely nothing. People can be convinced of anything, including memory of experiences they never had. This is a consequence of abstracting so many aspects of the world behind multiple layers of virtual interfaces.
It's not so much to protect women. It's more to be able to start up witch trials against men who are doing something important.
This is actually the main reason for all law. Law does not exist to create justice in any logical sense. It exists solely as a device to turn the masses against anyone who challenges the status quo.
Slavery implies one has to work for the money at less than the market rate
How so? What exactly is slavery to you anyway?
To be a slave is to live to serve. This is the truest, simplest way to put it. This is in line with its literal and historic definition completely.
You cannot satisfy your instincts by living to serve. You deny your identity, you deny your humanity, you deny your potential.
Of course people find all kinds of ways to convince themselves that they act in self-interest, but people tend to fail to have self-perspective and the broad perspective of their circumstances that follows from that, which of course invalidates their point of view. Simply put they can't think straight because they are so addicted to distractions.
Giving some people a basic income would directly enhance their freedom, but for most people it would just be an excuse to succumb totally to their addictions and never seize their potential in any sense. This has nothing to do with working or not working; people with a basic income would still work because they still have ambitions and still need something to do with their lives. They would continue to be slaves whether or not they would work. They would indulge to an unsustainable point as so many people do today and they would experience a failure of the body and mind and kill themselves.
"Facebook is not recording you, it would be illegal to do so, so therefore they are not doing it!" How little self-respect you must have if you believe any such claim as this after the existence of mass surveillance has been revealed.
All of these little stories, which are posted here almost every day, are meant to nibble away at your outrage and underhandedly restore your trust in the government by soothsaying.
There is nothing mitigating the mass surveillance conspiracy. There are no checks or balances. As a society we looked at the evidence and did not act on it. There is no oversight. That means it's going ahead and expanding.
There can be no freedom for people who are under total surveillance. It's life imprisonment. It's a hard and fast limit on your potential. Are you really content to have your own humanity and that of your children progressively reduced until there is nothing left? Most people are. If you're not, and you don't change your pattern of action radically, there will be no hope left for you or anyone else.
"oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all."
yes, exactly. You're that fucking stupid. Actually it goes way beyond stupidity to the realm of cognitive disability.
The definition of North Korea you have in your head is contrary to the actual substance of a national government. If what you thought was true, North Korea would never have existed, let alone beat the US's expedition against it.
Meanwhile you completely ignore my point because you know you blindly trust a source of information that constantly lies to you, you know you're stupid at best, and you are terrified of dealing with the truth. You are the problem with the world.
This tearjerking little story is actually in Microsoft's interest.
The message here is that Microsoft can do whatever they want and we are all helpless.
This is the pattern of narrative we are subjected to again and again and again. "We are helpless".
We are NOT. Militarize. Get angry. Let the rage fly. If enough people do this simultaneously there cannot be consequences from any authority because they need us all to work. Once the "powers the be" start listening we can demand referendums and codify economic justice.
instead of justifying anything you "know" you just masturbate around and spew even more intellectual garbage.
HOW DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THE SHIT THAT YOU ARE SAYING?
did you miss that question that I asked like five times already? I guess when you read my post you were like "THIS SEEMS LIKE A POOR OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONVERSATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PROVE MY LOYALTY TO THE STATE BY RECITING THE OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW TO A DISSIDENT (I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING OVER ME LIKE A GUARDIAN ANGEL, NSA/CIA/FBI, LET ME MAKE YOU PROUD (PLEASE DON'T KILL MY FAMILY)"
Facts: no one likes you the popular kids still think you're boring the pretty girls are still disgusted by you you will never be able to satisfy your instinctual desires because you suck at life
nothing will make up for this, especially brainlessly adopting the point of view of people who are better than you
so stop being a pea-brained indoctrinated fuckwad and take a look at yourself and then take a look at the world
you have no idea what freedom is because you surrender yours in some kind of popularity contest because of your incredibly obvious and substantial personal insecurities that completely override whatever minuscule portion of free will you have left
You call North Korea a prison camp....THE USA IS UNDER CONSTANT AND TOTAL SURVEILLANCE. Your phone is literally your shackle. Everything you do is always accounted for. That sounds like......PRISON.
You are a fucking animal. Stop trying to talk with people. Go roll around in the shit-mud of whatever job you managed to secure to yourself and leave the real people to talk.
You are completely missing the point. How do you know? How do you know you know, so to speak? Most importantly, how do you know you can trust what you've heard?
How do you know they intend to launch bombs onto the US? Did you miss grade-school? Didn't you have discussions about the implications of nuclear warfare? Namely, retaliation?
Obviously no one is developing nuclear weapons for offensive purposes. The resources are too scarce across the world; they are entirely accounted for, therefore 1) only entities of power that have resources spread across countries (namely, governments) have nuclear weapons and 2) everyone knows everyone who has them, so there is no question of where to retaliate in kind. And there seems to be no way to counter such retaliation.
So to fill in your grade-school education, nuclear weapons exist only to establish countries as legitimate, that is, they must be shown enough respect and allowed enough space to live. You can't take everything from them or else they will lose their interest in the world and hold everyone else to the same fate. Nuclear weapons are one of the few things in the world ensuring any kind of justice for less dominant peoples.
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your instincts tell you no such thing.
the multiple levels of stupid in the implication in your statement is inexcusable
stop believing revisionist history. stop being so fucking gullible. Look up the history of the idea of the flat world, just for starters.
Then put these things in perspective: in various civilizations, some of the very few artifacts that survived imply that the people who used them believed something.
The truth is the vast majority of people were not invested in believing any such thing, and that there were likely other in comparable proportion that believed something contradictory.
the phenomenon of "academic consensus" was not so widespread in ancient times as it is today in the authoritarian dogma-laden academia of today.
that is why you have instincts, and that is why you are conditioned to shun your instincts by society
There's nothing wrong with nudity you brainwashed little nerd. Unlike you, not everyone is conditioned to blow their load at the sight of a nude woman, so not everyone is afraid of developing some kind of preternatural affection toward immature girls by happening to see one without clothes on.
God I hate that people like you have kids. Neurosis may be common (and thereby justifiable to weak-minded fools like you) but it is not good.
It was selected for mass popularity.
It's part of the trend of the "tenderizing" industry: businesses that create products that compromise people emotionally and cause them to be distracted.
It's good for the economy under the current system as a whole. But it's awful for the people.
This is literally the same as the case of tobacco companies marketing to children.
But the problem was never the tobacco companies themselves, just like the problem isn't Tinder now.
It's that the leaders of our society are the kind of people who promote and see value in these things.
The immediate harm ends up besides the point: this society is poison for 99% of everyone.
Okay I'm sorry, I'm dealing with a retard here, I was giving you too much credit.
Yes cherrypick the part you want to address. Completely wrap yourself up in a false implication that if valid is nothing but accessory to the argument and THEN address the entire statement.
Do you have any idea how tiny the proportion of cases of rape with clear-cut evidence are, like the cases you mentioned? "Plenty"? Plenty enough for what? For you to use an excuse for completely abandoning your rational faculties in perceiving the world around you?
You are so low in your consciousness. You are stuck, focused on an point that is several layers behind the important point that was addressed.
You have no argument against the parent, but you want to object, so like the little rat you are you chew at the corner hoping the contents will spill out.
you're the one trying to make political idealogy a medical issue
Just to help you with your horrible reading comprehension:
Authority decides objectivity. That is becoming a simpler and simpler truth. The authority of our society is unjust. As long as it stands, there is no justice.
having the shit beaten out of you is not the worst thing.
being raped is not the worst thing.
maybe some of the blame should be on you for your acts of free will that led to these circumstances? That's not even a question usually. Because free will has been removed from most people by the current authority. It's simply a matter of removing the parts of the machine that are working counter to its function. This is injustice because the parts are greater than the machine itself. They are more complex and wonderful and have far more potential to fulfill humanity.
But hey, I guess the pittance you get from your job is enough to ignore all of this and to ignore any possible questioning of your circumstances. If you ever get any real success it will be even more reason to go with the flow! Apparently it boils down to a question of character, and most people have all of theirs removed at a young age.
You're clearly insane
Nice crafting of strawmen to ignore the issue and masturbate out your stupid emotions about an issue you don't understand
"Meaningless psycho-babble"
Listen guy, you should stop blaming your ignorance and lack of will to imagine on other people. Or is it your illiteracy?
"a decision for the jury to make"
oh god. juries exist for the sole reason to remove objectivity from the judgement. guess how often that works in favor of those against an authority? Juries are witnesses too.
This relates to my point very much. Witnesses are conditioned to pass judgement. Their morality interferes with their objectivity. They live lives in which their main function is to judge "good" or "bad". Most people are not really people. They've given up too much of their rational faculties that nature gave them. They are sorting machines.
Technology enables objectivity, yet we rely on subjective interpretation as much as ever. Proof of crookedness, if you care to estimate the dimensions honestly.
What a world of funhouse mirrors you must live in. You have no imagination. You honestly think imagination has no place in your view of the world. Good job letting the world have its way with you!
You are asking me to tailor-make a persuasive presentation for you specifically.
Instead, I ask you, what is the proof that any man who as ever been accused of sexual harassment or rape actually did it? Finding his DNA inside her? What if it was consentual?
There is no way, no way at all, to bring this matter into objective terms. That is obvious, all lawmakers would see this, and so they know it and made these laws anyway. Why?
Who has no real grip on objectivity? Women. Okay make some animal noises. "SEXIST!!!!". But it's true. It's a consequence of biology. The proof is in sexual dimorphism. They have strengths against men, but it is not in their rationality. A strong argument is in our history. Men have had much more immediate need for quick thinking in objective matters, and so they were selected to be rational above women. Exploration, combat, construction, etc. For hundreds of thousands of years men surpassed women in these ways. Sexual dimorphism not only in humans but in all apes proves this pattern is even more ancient in some aspects, going back millions of years. I digress.
Women needed to be placated so they would be economically productive in the new paradigm.
But that's not the main point. It was not women's instinctual behavior that was the problem for the industrializing world; they would go to work regardless of having children to watch etc. The main point was to subdue the instincts of men. They are more complex in the problems they cause for society. This was a golden chance for the society to establish a regiment of constant whipping against men. By punishing their sexual instincts, they encourage them to be mentally weak and compliant. They remove their ability to be fulfilled, not just be removing the possibility for most to mate easily, but removing the possibility to even attempt mating. The extreme cases being homosexuals who would never attempt mating and indeed find it disgusting to participate in.
Just like all law, this is a way to destroy those who would challenge the status quo.
Witnesses lie and are manipulated.
In the modern world eye witnesses mean absolutely nothing. People can be convinced of anything, including memory of experiences they never had.
This is a consequence of abstracting so many aspects of the world behind multiple layers of virtual interfaces.
look its a propaganda bot
What the hell are you trying to say and why did anyone mod you up?
It's not so much to protect women.
It's more to be able to start up witch trials against men who are doing something important.
This is actually the main reason for all law. Law does not exist to create justice in any logical sense. It exists solely as a device to turn the masses against anyone who challenges the status quo.
How so? What exactly is slavery to you anyway?
To be a slave is to live to serve. This is the truest, simplest way to put it. This is in line with its literal and historic definition completely.
You cannot satisfy your instincts by living to serve. You deny your identity, you deny your humanity, you deny your potential.
Of course people find all kinds of ways to convince themselves that they act in self-interest, but people tend to fail to have self-perspective and the broad perspective of their circumstances that follows from that, which of course invalidates their point of view. Simply put they can't think straight because they are so addicted to distractions.
Giving some people a basic income would directly enhance their freedom, but for most people it would just be an excuse to succumb totally to their addictions and never seize their potential in any sense. This has nothing to do with working or not working; people with a basic income would still work because they still have ambitions and still need something to do with their lives. They would continue to be slaves whether or not they would work. They would indulge to an unsustainable point as so many people do today and they would experience a failure of the body and mind and kill themselves.
"Facebook is not recording you, it would be illegal to do so, so therefore they are not doing it!"
How little self-respect you must have if you believe any such claim as this after the existence of mass surveillance has been revealed.
All of these little stories, which are posted here almost every day, are meant to nibble away at your outrage and underhandedly restore your trust in the government by soothsaying.
There is nothing mitigating the mass surveillance conspiracy. There are no checks or balances. As a society we looked at the evidence and did not act on it. There is no oversight.
That means it's going ahead and expanding.
There can be no freedom for people who are under total surveillance. It's life imprisonment. It's a hard and fast limit on your potential. Are you really content to have your own humanity and that of your children progressively reduced until there is nothing left? Most people are. If you're not, and you don't change your pattern of action radically, there will be no hope left for you or anyone else.
"oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all."
yes, exactly. You're that fucking stupid. Actually it goes way beyond stupidity to the realm of cognitive disability.
The definition of North Korea you have in your head is contrary to the actual substance of a national government. If what you thought was true, North Korea would never have existed, let alone beat the US's expedition against it.
Meanwhile you completely ignore my point because you know you blindly trust a source of information that constantly lies to you, you know you're stupid at best, and you are terrified of dealing with the truth. You are the problem with the world.
If you think it over, your question leads to a very clear and simple answer: basic income is necessarily abject slavery.
We tried it and it just didn't work! Look at all the studies we did! It was all done with integrity!
Now get back to work
Assault covers it without giving malicious liars power
Microsoft is fucking evil.
This tearjerking little story is actually in Microsoft's interest.
The message here is that Microsoft can do whatever they want and we are all helpless.
This is the pattern of narrative we are subjected to again and again and again. "We are helpless".
We are NOT. Militarize. Get angry. Let the rage fly. If enough people do this simultaneously there cannot be consequences from any authority because they need us all to work. Once the "powers the be" start listening we can demand referendums and codify economic justice.
instead of justifying anything you "know" you just masturbate around and spew even more intellectual garbage.
HOW
DO
YOU
KNOW
ANY
OF THE SHIT
THAT
YOU
ARE
SAYING?
did you miss that question that I asked like five times already? I guess when you read my post you were like "THIS SEEMS LIKE A POOR OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONVERSATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PROVE MY LOYALTY TO THE STATE BY RECITING THE OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW TO A DISSIDENT (I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING OVER ME LIKE A GUARDIAN ANGEL, NSA/CIA/FBI, LET ME MAKE YOU PROUD (PLEASE DON'T KILL MY FAMILY)"
Facts:
no one likes you
the popular kids still think you're boring
the pretty girls are still disgusted by you
you will never be able to satisfy your instinctual desires because you suck at life
nothing will make up for this, especially brainlessly adopting the point of view of people who are better than you
so stop being a pea-brained indoctrinated fuckwad and take a look at yourself
and then take a look at the world
you have no idea what freedom is because you surrender yours in some kind of popularity contest because of your incredibly obvious and substantial personal insecurities that completely override whatever minuscule portion of free will you have left
You call North Korea a prison camp....THE USA IS UNDER CONSTANT AND TOTAL SURVEILLANCE. Your phone is literally your shackle. Everything you do is always accounted for. That sounds like......PRISON.
You are a fucking animal. Stop trying to talk with people. Go roll around in the shit-mud of whatever job you managed to secure to yourself and leave the real people to talk.
Distracting from the real story: facial recognition
You are completely missing the point.
How do you know?
How do you know you know, so to speak?
Most importantly, how do you know you can trust what you've heard?
How do you know they intend to launch bombs onto the US? Did you miss grade-school? Didn't you have discussions about the implications of nuclear warfare? Namely, retaliation?
Obviously no one is developing nuclear weapons for offensive purposes. The resources are too scarce across the world; they are entirely accounted for, therefore 1) only entities of power that have resources spread across countries (namely, governments) have nuclear weapons and 2) everyone knows everyone who has them, so there is no question of where to retaliate in kind. And there seems to be no way to counter such retaliation.
So to fill in your grade-school education, nuclear weapons exist only to establish countries as legitimate, that is, they must be shown enough respect and allowed enough space to live. You can't take everything from them or else they will lose their interest in the world and hold everyone else to the same fate.
Nuclear weapons are one of the few things in the world ensuring any kind of justice for less dominant peoples.
"Stop bitching you brainless slaves, when you're not working for me you better keep your stupid fucking head in the sand"