As a Designer -- not just a chooser of pretty colors and fonts or "making things look professional" I take heart with this comment. I think there is a place for custom widgets and the poster gets it a bit wrong.
Like wind minimizing, or UI interactions, too much is too much. Once the gentleman's demo site is no longer./'d I'll have a look. Until then I can only comment on the flying windows Microsoft is touting, the GL windows that shimmy and shake like Jerry Lee Lewis, and the OSX windows that minimize with the user's choice of three animations -- Genie, Scale, and Suck (if you know how to invoke the Suck then you've done more than most people, congrats).
Out of these methods of UI interaction, perhaps the OSX implementation is the simplest, clearest feedback loop one could hope for. It builds slightly what was popularized in Windows95, what began, oh where? NeXt?
Anyway, the newer UI window interactions that make me feel like putting my favorite playlist of Prince on are spurious and un-necessary.
Just don't take what IBM says as gold -- they have the same ego and saving face job Apple does.
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Sorry, just want to add iMovie
p.s. Apple bought FinalCut from Macromedia but packaged iMovie and it rocks for what it is
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Spotlight and the associated file meta-data is pretty darn nice in Tiger.
Expose on Panther -- that's been a huge part of how I use the file system, navigate open documents/applications, move files around, etc...
Keychain on Mac OS 9 -- was huge. One password for all your user/pass pairs in any app that chose to call the api.
Freaking a, the Chooser that let you point and click install printers! Hah! in 1987 I was "installing" printers. I still laugh at the notion, install? what do you mean? I select my printer.
Is, so much for folksonomies, or other cool stuff happening.
Don't worry, soon Yahoo will have it choked up with ads, code that only runs in IEWin, and any notion of community, folksonomies, or some other cultural shift by design is GONE forever.
Hooray to SixApart for adjusting their license model -- they are keeping the spirit alive, allowing their creation to continue to cause more of a cultural shift, by design, than many others. OK, I know you like WordPress... and it's fine too but it's still totally free so it doesn't necessarily apply here.
So you're telling me the player you bought was more than the prices at froogle today??
My point -- there has NEVER been a 700.00 iPod. Your statement that the iPod was more than twice as much as your HP 40gb rio river whatever the is totally inaccurate.
OK --- not trolling here. I had a friend with an enormous (no, I don't think about those! you nasty)
music library. He was using some other software in Windows. He complained about the features and more importantly how slow it was to slice, dice and search on this library. I recommended he check out iTunes. He did so and became a switcher simply for the software's features.
natch - this point is void if you buy into some subscription service or windows media stuff.
Well have you tried? You are taken to the biggest of big brother pages, the About Genuine Microsoft Software screeds!!! What a pant-load. You can't download the anti-spyware until you allow an active-x control to do something on your computer to verify that indeed, you are running Windows (well ok a valid purchased copy of windows).
Does this story deserves similar attention that the EFF vs Apple story deserves on internal corporate communications and trade secrets?
Where did they get this blog material? From an internal source? While I like to dislike Intel as much as ex motorola chip fab employees this smacks of wrongful publication...
Yeah, let's make journalists untouchable... is that far enough?
The new Godwin's Law, btw, is the point at which any conversation invokes the "T" word (terrorism). Now, I've done it.
What if a journalist writes a story about an impending terrorist attack revealed to her by untold sources? I know the death of civilians by bombing is very different than corporate trade secrets, but, the at the same time this is about how we treat journalists? Are they above the basic laws or not? Certainly they could be taken in and never talk... at some point this cycle could turn fascist and quite dangerous if your government is against the population but at some point even corporate trade secrets should require some protection under the law.
I suppose it depends on your definition of protection.
Right, not calling the mini the success yet, but I am stating the fact that they have all the pieces assembled and consumers are taking note.
Analysts as well!!
http://www.microsoftmonitor.com/archives/005874.ht ml
My advice to Microsoft and its partners: You may have thought iPod was reason to take Apple more seriously. Urgency has increased. While I simply don't see Apple stealing mounds of Windows PC marketshare, I do see problems for your collective digital entertainment strategies. Right now, about two thirds of consumers have a computer in the living room, mostly Windows users. A bunch of Windows users have purchased iPods (JupiterResearch clients, we have data. Please contact colleague Michael Gartenberg or me to get it). What happens when iPod Windows users buy spanking, new $499 iMacs and put them in the main room of the house, same place you'd like to put entertainment PCs? Another way to look at the new Mac is as a low-cost entertainment media hub that gets right to the digital content consumers most care about: photos and music.
I can't hear you above the din of the consumer public's rushing to Apple solutions which aren't actually marketed as hubs but are doing nicely as hubs
Funny that... but then Apple sort of outlined the "digital hub" strategy at least as early as 2001, if not sooner. Sorry I don't have that quarterly report on hand.:)
Oh sure, we've heard noise from both Intel (ladies and gentlemen, the Ottoman PC) and Microsoft (how's this for a catchy name: Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition) before, but nothing delivered thus far delivers quality near the iLife suite + iPod (and maybe even a Mac Mini, or in my case an old laptop soon to be upgraded to a mini).
Ladies and gentlemen... the fat lady ain't about to sing on this one. Hold on, more FUD, vapor/promise/bloat/crash-ware is falling your way.
Mod this troll... or HUB (head up butt) since pricing and Apple has long become less and less of an issue when you actually compare like configurations.
You know it, I know it, the american people know it... you can buy it, use it, and pass it through your lower intestine...
Just stop. Take a breath. Go to apple.com/store/ and check things out, or if you dare, stop by a retail store.
We just ordered six (6) Minis, MSFT Office Academic, AND 3 year warranty on all machines for my wife's museum --- all for the price of my top of the line dual G5 PLUS one of those sexy Apple 23" LCDs. Mind you, I did not buy my dual with the nice monitor but am using an older 17" LCD.
I think you can get over it now and just order a Mini if you really wanted to.
What is more sexy?? A BSD based Mac Mini with bash, a fast processor, iLife, DVI out to RCA, real video card and more at 5.5x5.5 or a Win Longhorn Bathroom edition 6.5x7.5 with no DVI??
Go with a blogging tool like MovableType, which in essence is a great micro-content management tool. It has a database, a templating system, and builds static files. The content owners need not know one iota of markup if you build it the right way.
We use it in several non-blog cases where we are able to use data in much more than static ways... but it's actually static!
We fucking get it -- you aren't an Apple fan nor do you intend to be...
MOD DOWN MAN, MOD DOWN.
On the other hand, a Jupiter analyst says:
Just wrapped up another fascinating call. I'm still in thinking mode about the implications of what was discussed. The first few weeks in January are going to be very interesting. 2005 is shaping up to be a year of interesting products, relationships and technologies. Some of this stuff (if executed properly from a marketing and messaging perspective) is going to be amazing. You heard it here first:)
http://weblogs.jupiterresearch.com/analysts/gart en berg/archives/005551.html#005551
This is not really off-topic if you think about it...
Here is a product for Windows ONLY. The poster asks if 3D will become so simple... My answer: this is akin to the Windows "Wizard" which feigns an attempt to help the user complete a task, when in reality it hides the real questions and answers and complexities the user should be able to realize and learn.
You've got to ask yoursefl: Would you rather have a Wizard or an Assistant?
The rest of the world is getting obese just like Americans... everyone is greedy to a point. Some are just able to carry their greed to the point of complete selfishness and totally ignore the high percentage of people who have a hard time just keeping a roof over their heads.
What the heck will it take? Evolution of the human species? I always think back to those old Star Trek episodes where they land on some planet where the inhabitants laugh kindly at Earth's culture because they have learned to live without greed, take care of everyone, and actually enjoy sex rather than codify it.
I don't know why I want to write this... mod at your leisure.
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What rant was I asked to meta-moderate??
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./'d I'll have a look. Until then I can only comment on the flying windows Microsoft is touting, the GL windows that shimmy and shake like Jerry Lee Lewis, and the OSX windows that minimize with the user's choice of three animations -- Genie, Scale, and Suck (if you know how to invoke the Suck then you've done more than most people, congrats).
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155696&cid=13
As a Designer -- not just a chooser of pretty colors and fonts or "making things look professional" I take heart with this comment. I think there is a place for custom widgets and the poster gets it a bit wrong.
Like wind minimizing, or UI interactions, too much is too much. Once the gentleman's demo site is no longer
Out of these methods of UI interaction, perhaps the OSX implementation is the simplest, clearest feedback loop one could hope for. It builds slightly what was popularized in Windows95, what began, oh where? NeXt?
Anyway, the newer UI window interactions that make me feel like putting my favorite playlist of Prince on are spurious and un-necessary.
http://osviews.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=New s&file=article&sid=4954
Go read it...
Just don't take what IBM says as gold -- they have the same ego and saving face job Apple does.
Sorry, just want to add iMovie
p.s. Apple bought FinalCut from Macromedia but packaged iMovie and it rocks for what it is
Spotlight and the associated file meta-data is pretty darn nice in Tiger.
Expose on Panther -- that's been a huge part of how I use the file system, navigate open documents/applications, move files around, etc...
Keychain on Mac OS 9 -- was huge. One password for all your user/pass pairs in any app that chose to call the api.
Freaking a, the Chooser that let you point and click install printers! Hah! in 1987 I was "installing" printers. I still laugh at the notion, install? what do you mean? I select my printer.
Password keeping wallets.
FWIW, the Mac OS introduced the KeyChain in Mac OS 9 around 2000 or so... I don't know the history of passwd wallets on Linux.
Anyone?
Is, so much for folksonomies, or other cool stuff happening.
Don't worry, soon Yahoo will have it choked up with ads, code that only runs in IEWin, and any notion of community, folksonomies, or some other cultural shift by design is GONE forever.
Hooray to SixApart for adjusting their license model -- they are keeping the spirit alive, allowing their creation to continue to cause more of a cultural shift, by design, than many others. OK, I know you like WordPress... and it's fine too but it's still totally free so it doesn't necessarily apply here.
So you're telling me the player you bought was more than the prices at froogle today??
My point -- there has NEVER been a 700.00 iPod. Your statement that the iPod was more than twice as much as your HP 40gb rio river whatever the is totally inaccurate.
You really should use iTunes. No, really.
OK --- not trolling here. I had a friend with an enormous (no, I don't think about those! you nasty)
music library. He was using some other software in Windows. He complained about the features and more importantly how slow it was to slice, dice and search on this library. I recommended he check out iTunes. He did so and became a switcher simply for the software's features.
natch - this point is void if you buy into some subscription service or windows media stuff.
Where did you get the iRiver iHP 140 for 200.00??0 +40GB&hl=en&lr=&tab=wf&scoring=p
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=iRiver+iHP-14
I tell you this move is hideous.
I just tried to install the Microsoft anti-spyware beta. (how could one resist with this dorky picture?? http://rino.bowdoin.edu/img/dork.jpg)
Well have you tried? You are taken to the biggest of big brother pages, the About Genuine Microsoft Software screeds!!! What a pant-load. You can't download the anti-spyware until you allow an active-x control to do something on your computer to verify that indeed, you are running Windows (well ok a valid purchased copy of windows).
It's sick and they just keep getting sicker.
Does this story deserves similar attention that the EFF vs Apple story deserves on internal corporate communications and trade secrets?
Where did they get this blog material? From an internal source? While I like to dislike Intel as much as ex motorola chip fab employees this smacks of wrongful publication...
I am glad I got the pdf though! w00t!
But how do we know it's real?
Is the EFF's case here akin to any presumed (or proclaimed) bad examples at the ACLU?
I'm not saying anything about the ACLU here, just trying to ferret out a thread.
Yeah, let's make journalists untouchable... is that far enough?
The new Godwin's Law, btw, is the point at which any conversation invokes the "T" word (terrorism). Now, I've done it.
What if a journalist writes a story about an impending terrorist attack revealed to her by untold sources? I know the death of civilians by bombing is very different than corporate trade secrets, but, the at the same time this is about how we treat journalists? Are they above the basic laws or not? Certainly they could be taken in and never talk... at some point this cycle could turn fascist and quite dangerous if your government is against the population but at some point even corporate trade secrets should require some protection under the law.
I suppose it depends on your definition of protection.
Did somebody say something??
:)
I can't hear you above the din of the consumer public's rushing to Apple solutions which aren't actually marketed as hubs but are doing nicely as hubs
Funny that... but then Apple sort of outlined the "digital hub" strategy at least as early as 2001, if not sooner. Sorry I don't have that quarterly report on hand.
Oh sure, we've heard noise from both Intel (ladies and gentlemen, the Ottoman PC) and Microsoft (how's this for a catchy name: Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition) before, but nothing delivered thus far delivers quality near the iLife suite + iPod (and maybe even a Mac Mini, or in my case an old laptop soon to be upgraded to a mini).
Ladies and gentlemen... the fat lady ain't about to sing on this one. Hold on, more FUD, vapor/promise/bloat/crash-ware is falling your way.
A little bit like this:t s/3dosx /screenshots.html
http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/macwarriors/projec
No but seriously, what part of "put your fucking hands up!" do you not understand??
Mod this troll... or HUB (head up butt) since pricing and Apple has long become less and less of an issue when you actually compare like configurations.
You know it, I know it, the american people know it... you can buy it, use it, and pass it through your lower intestine...
Just stop. Take a breath. Go to apple.com/store/ and check things out, or if you dare, stop by a retail store.
We just ordered six (6) Minis, MSFT Office Academic, AND 3 year warranty on all machines for my wife's museum --- all for the price of my top of the line dual G5 PLUS one of those sexy Apple 23" LCDs. Mind you, I did not buy my dual with the nice monitor but am using an older 17" LCD.
I think you can get over it now and just order a Mini if you really wanted to.
Don't hassle dude. Just buy the Mac.
What is more sexy?? A BSD based Mac Mini with bash, a fast processor, iLife, DVI out to RCA, real video card and more at 5.5x5.5 or a Win Longhorn Bathroom edition 6.5x7.5 with no DVI??
Huh? Tell me! I mean really.
Go with a blogging tool like MovableType, which in essence is a great micro-content management tool. It has a database, a templating system, and builds static files. The content owners need not know one iota of markup if you build it the right way.
We use it in several non-blog cases where we are able to use data in much more than static ways... but it's actually static!
We fucking get it -- you aren't an Apple fan nor do you intend to be...
MOD DOWN MAN, MOD DOWN.
On the other hand, a Jupiter analyst says:
http://weblogs.jupiterresearch.com/analysts/gar
Now that IS actually interesting w/re to Apple.
That's my point, it was however nuanced so perhaps you missed it...
The notion that a wizard can do anything for you is bunk. An assistant, like a 3d package, simply helps you along and doesn't really hide anything.
I am familiar with 3d modeling and animation.
This is not really off-topic if you think about it...
Here is a product for Windows ONLY. The poster asks if 3D will become so simple... My answer: this is akin to the Windows "Wizard" which feigns an attempt to help the user complete a task, when in reality it hides the real questions and answers and complexities the user should be able to realize and learn.
You've got to ask yoursefl: Would you rather have a Wizard or an Assistant?
I choose the Assistant every day...
What light weights.
I say sell your crappy music player and buy an iPod baby.
Is this surprising?
The rest of the world is getting obese just like Americans... everyone is greedy to a point. Some are just able to carry their greed to the point of complete selfishness and totally ignore the high percentage of people who have a hard time just keeping a roof over their heads.
What the heck will it take? Evolution of the human species? I always think back to those old Star Trek episodes where they land on some planet where the inhabitants laugh kindly at Earth's culture because they have learned to live without greed, take care of everyone, and actually enjoy sex rather than codify it.
I don't know why I want to write this... mod at your leisure.