In all fairness to the description of the story. "And Apple appears headed for a slimmed-down OS X that will enable future iPhones or tablet devices to run the same OS as the Mac."
Am I missing something?
After 17 million iPhones and I don't know how many millions of iPod Touches sold this is more than being headed in a direction.
I can just as well use my web browser with javascript turned off. Sure I won't be able to log into most sites or do much with Google Apps or anything else in the cloud, but, I'll still be able to get basic information.
I love running around with no-flash, it's like free-balling except I can click and the flash runs when I want it to!
Well Obama basically communicated a positive message through and through. The others used the tear down the other guy technique because they had nothing else to day.
This is bunk -- there was an ill-defined market with NO intergrated product design and a DIY loading set of tools with each player. The MP3 player market SUCKED and that's why Apple took the lead with a superior user experience and product offering.
As for java games... raise your hand if you have spent any time with java on a cell phone. It's not great.
How can the mods o' the day mark the above post "Insightful" ???... when the author slips in a stupid retort claiming the main reason people buy an Apple product is due to its "shiny" factor.
What horse baloney. Get over the 18 year old arguments and see reality.
I suppose Mac sales are rising as they have been these past years simply due to the shiny factor.
God I can't believe this panoply of nose wiping myopic meanderings.
"Apple PR distortion" I'm so blinded by the light! I mean that's why MSFT got you to buy Windows 95 b/c you were dancing to "Start Me Up" right?
"use marketing that causes geeks to flinch in pain" You mean to actually promote a business idea? Gasp!
"Sadly, Apple even copied these multi-touch gestures" There's nothing sad about this. Your Linux copied everything ever made and tried to put it in one system.
"And when it comes to hardware, the general rule on the Mac is that it Just Works only if you buy pricey Apple-branded add-ons."
"Odds of getting my USB hard drive to work on a Mac are slim" Right because the USB spec is so particular and strange. What a crock of bullshite.
There is very little premium for so called "apple add-ons" -- I can't even imagine what you mean by this. All "add-ons" I have bought in the USB spectrum, monitors, (save for video cards which I'd have to be in your boat on), scanners, etc.. JUST WORK.
And although in my scan of the article I did not see what tech they are using but I can just about guarantee it will by from your friends at MSFT. So which will it be? PlaysSometimes or Zune or Real's crummy kit (do they still have kit?).
99/9% certain it will not play on a Mac OR an iPod.
Too bad Apple can't leverage Fairplay to some degree here... then again it would be feeding competition.
You had been able to get a 1299.00 tower (1999 now which is too high an entry for a tower IMO). A 799.00 eMac. A 999.00 iBook. And now you can even get a multi-button mouse !
The price argument has been gone for a few years now skippy. These prices are competitive.
I have tried and tried to buy one of those 399.00 - 500.00 WinTel boxen just for a few tasks and games but it's not doable. Those boxes SUCK!!! Once you add the 300.00 video card the price goes up!
The other meme here is about Apple being a HW company, not a SW company. Look at the SEC filing. ~30% revenue from iPod ~ 33% from CPUs ~ the rest is "Other Music Products, Peripherals & other HW, and Software & Other"
The upshot is not only CPU sales increasing (iPods natch but that's IMO a temporary phenom.) but SW sales are increasing.
True, the Tiger upgrades are a small percentage, but, people buy more CPUs because it runs Tiger, not Windows.
Before I continue, I'd like to identify my bias. I stopped using non-Microsoft browsers over two years ago because I found them to be unpolished. Ever since then I've been using Crazy Browser. It uses the IE component available to all Windows applications, and it adds tabbed browsing and its own popup blocker. It's a great program for those of us who prefer IE, but still want tabbed browsing.
I stopped reading the review after reading this. "...those of us who prefer IE..." ????
Who "prefers" the IE rendering engine and why? What is there to prefer? Love poorly rendered CSS and insecure ActiveX components.
I don't get it.
You've hit on something here but it's not anticipation software.
It is Microsoft Word. I'll wager more of the world's content is locked up in Word format and has yet to be published. Let's not talk about that paper format called the book, or the layout's in Quark!
Meta-data is the future. The semantic web was not a far fetched idea!
Oh, just woke up and found a drool puddle oozing out of my keyboard...
The Mini is a great little machine. Worth the money.
The iBook is a dead horse. OK, it's not horrible for $1000.00 but they could do better.
In fact their entire (oh! all six?) portable line is stale and going nowhere fast. Where are the innovations? The better screens? The tablet? (they practically led the way with HWR and it's in OSX as Ink). What about the built-in media reader? I like that feature on my M-In_Law's HP book.
On another topic but closely related, I can't wait to see how the Intel transition plays out and what new growth engines they'll introduce. I'd hate to think that Apple will continue to play so conservatively with their computer (designs, features, specs) because as it stands that's where they are.
Oh, when that happens pigs will fly. They notoriously are not only single platform but actually do really stupid things.
Their music service, launched oh... in the last few months!!! tells Macintosh users that they must use Netscape 4.7 in order to use Yahoo! Music Limited!
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In all fairness to the description of the story.
"And Apple appears headed for a slimmed-down OS X that will enable future iPhones or tablet devices to run the same OS as the Mac."
Am I missing something?
After 17 million iPhones and I don't know how many millions of iPod Touches sold this is more than being headed in a direction.
When Apple launched the iPhone it was announced as an OS X device.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/09/apple-announces-iphone-stock-soars/
So apparently Apple is clearly in the space of running a mini version of a monolithic OS.
Anyway, interesting as heck topic.
I can just as well use my web browser with javascript turned off. Sure I won't be able to log into most sites or do much with Google Apps or anything else in the cloud, but, I'll still be able to get basic information.
I love running around with no-flash, it's like free-balling except I can click and the flash runs when I want it to!
I agree.
And who "boils tea" in the first place? That's all wrong, you boil water and make the tea.
Agreed with Hardhead_7 !!!!
Exactly what I was thinking --
Well Obama basically communicated a positive message through and through. The others used the tear down the other guy technique because they had nothing else to day.
What do you expect?
Slashdot is dead to me. DEAD TO ME YOU HEAR??
(well ok, i'm a casual poster...)
That this guy's post got rated up to 5/Informative is craaaazy.
iPhone happens to have a very fast processor. Have you seen it run one of the many 3D games?
And yea, what of wifi, bluetooth, phone, ipod, safari, mail, chat, video capabilities make it average????
I've seen trolls and you sir are a troll.
This is rated insightful??
Straw man! Going straight to the devil, straw man! going straight to hell....
Yah, poor Google and T-Mobile. They are mere weaklings in the face of Apple, Inc.
I think the Android is a real plot between Google && Apple to kill Windows Mobile. There -- how's that for an internet comment?!
Welllllllll, statistics to YOUR company's site means what?
Nice stats but short of a broad or random sample when your site proffers to a niche audience. [insert joke about ASP vs. PHP or some such thing /]
This is bunk -- there was an ill-defined market with NO intergrated product design and a DIY loading set of tools with each player. The MP3 player market SUCKED and that's why Apple took the lead with a superior user experience and product offering.
As for java games... raise your hand if you have spent any time with java on a cell phone. It's not great.
Methinks the poster has a serious misunderstanding of film quality versus video or "modern" cameras.
So... you're saying all the government and military leaders are in cahoots with the Cylon skin jobs, or that they're actually skin jobs themselves?
How can the mods o' the day mark the above post "Insightful" ??? ... when the author slips in a stupid retort claiming the main reason people buy an Apple product is due to its "shiny" factor.
What horse baloney. Get over the 18 year old arguments and see reality.
I suppose Mac sales are rising as they have been these past years simply due to the shiny factor.
God I can't believe this panoply of nose wiping myopic meanderings.
"Apple PR distortion"
I'm so blinded by the light! I mean that's why MSFT got you to buy Windows 95 b/c you were dancing to "Start Me Up" right?
"use marketing that causes geeks to flinch in pain"
You mean to actually promote a business idea? Gasp!
"Sadly, Apple even copied these multi-touch gestures"
There's nothing sad about this. Your Linux copied everything ever made and tried to put it in one system.
"And when it comes to hardware, the general rule on the Mac is that it Just Works only if you buy pricey Apple-branded add-ons."
"Odds of getting my USB hard drive to work on a Mac are slim"
Right because the USB spec is so particular and strange. What a crock of bullshite.
There is very little premium for so called "apple add-ons" -- I can't even imagine what you mean by this.
All "add-ons" I have bought in the USB spectrum, monitors, (save for video cards which I'd have to be in your boat on), scanners, etc.. JUST WORK.
I got NOTHING for FREE man!!!!
I don't use Windows.
ha! if i could mod you funny i would... but i used my mod points this year.
And although in my scan of the article I did not see what tech they are using but I can just about guarantee it will by from your friends at MSFT.
So which will it be? PlaysSometimes or Zune or Real's crummy kit (do they still have kit?).
99/9% certain it will not play on a Mac OR an iPod.
Too bad Apple can't leverage Fairplay to some degree here... then again it would be feeding competition.
Did you also know that a growing number of people masturbate too!? And they also buy books and cds and music online! GASP!
Marijuana is a gateway drug too.
which of course brings the price of the less expensive dell up a few hundred dollars by the time you replace GarageBand and iDVD.
I bet eventually we might see a close equivalent but... in the mean time this Mini is actually a great deal.
I'll say it like it really is -- all you anti-apple fanboys need to cool your jets and relax on the fact that these are actually decent machines.
This is such a dead horse.
Not just with the entry of the Mini.
You had been able to get a 1299.00 tower (1999 now which is too high an entry for a tower IMO).
A 799.00 eMac.
A 999.00 iBook.
And now you can even get a multi-button mouse !
The price argument has been gone for a few years now skippy.
These prices are competitive.
I have tried and tried to buy one of those 399.00 - 500.00 WinTel boxen just for a few tasks and games but it's not doable. Those boxes SUCK!!! Once you add the 300.00 video card the price goes up!
The other meme here is about Apple being a HW company, not a SW company.
Look at the SEC filing.
~30% revenue from iPod
~ 33% from CPUs
~ the rest is "Other Music Products, Peripherals & other HW, and Software & Other"
The upshot is not only CPU sales increasing (iPods natch but that's IMO a temporary phenom.) but SW sales are increasing.
True, the Tiger upgrades are a small percentage, but, people buy more CPUs because it runs Tiger, not Windows.
You've hit on something here but it's not anticipation software.
It is Microsoft Word. I'll wager more of the world's content is locked up in Word format and has yet to be published. Let's not talk about that paper format called the book, or the layout's in Quark!
Meta-data is the future. The semantic web was not a far fetched idea!
Will it run Linux?
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No seriously -- if this is the future how much you want to bet it will require IE 8.0SP3.4 on Windows CliffHanger!
The Gilmour Gang has a great podcast talking around this topic: http://mp3.gillmorgang.podshow.com/GillmorGang-20
They talk more about media and the web but same topic really...
Oh, just woke up and found a drool puddle oozing out of my keyboard...
The Mini is a great little machine. Worth the money.
The iBook is a dead horse. OK, it's not horrible for $1000.00 but they could do better.
In fact their entire (oh! all six?) portable line is stale and going nowhere fast. Where are the innovations? The better screens? The tablet? (they practically led the way with HWR and it's in OSX as Ink). What about the built-in media reader? I like that feature on my M-In_Law's HP book.
On another topic but closely related, I can't wait to see how the Intel transition plays out and what new growth engines they'll introduce. I'd hate to think that Apple will continue to play so conservatively with their computer (designs, features, specs) because as it stands that's where they are.
Yahoo! wants to be cross platform???!
6 /yahoo-music-unlimited
Oh, when that happens pigs will fly. They notoriously are not only single platform but actually do really stupid things.
Their music service, launched oh... in the last few months!!! tells Macintosh users that they must use Netscape 4.7 in order to use Yahoo! Music Limited!
Check this out:
http://rino.bowdoin.edu/wordpress/archives/2005/0
In my experience, the biggest, loudest complainers or dissers of Mac OS X are Windows users who know nothing about it... Guess who comes in second?