Since we broke into the conversation, Has anyone used the IBM 275 20" (19.8) Flat
1920x1440@75Hz I found one good review on it but nothing else. I would like one for christmas?? but I haven't been able to get a review from a source I know.
I was comparing it to the Mitsubisi 200 Diamond Plus Natural Flat
22" (20") 1800x1440@72 Hz
"...and there isn't even much consensus about what it is, an economic system or an ideology."
Throw in military protection and I believe what you are describing is a government. This is the beginings of a world government, and we should be electing a seperate offical to represent us for it. Perhaps even voting in a presidential like election as well. Anything else is a wasted opportunity. We have the opportunity to inspire/republics and democrocies in countries that have never seen them before. It has the opportunity to civilize a variety of governments by having their citizens participate in a new and wonderfull process. Unfortunatly greed seems to be the order of the day with the current system in the US and the WTO meetings are just a easy way for presidents to pay back campain contributions with favors.
Our government is a slave and our press is their masters. Ben Franklin's fears about copyright have been realized. If US officals really cared about democracy they would create one limited over-government for the world and give up their some of their power to the peoples choice. Hopefully enough of the non-US goverments recognise the civilizing power of such an orginization and work around our currently undermined state.
"The reality is somewhere in between. If no work is done wothout money, then how the hell did we get Linux and the entire GNU project?
On the other hand, money is a VERY powerfull incentive. "
You hit the nail on the head there, each situation is different. Each type of IP and each product is different, the key is moderation of reward or profit. IP monopoly rewards should be dolled out based on a proportion of the effort put in. Perhaps the same R&D cost numbers used for tax breaks (at our expense) could be used to assign a multiple of that total R&D cost (say 2.5x) before compulsory licencing takes over (say half of profits on sales of the drug.)
My numbers are probobly not optimal but using those methods I'm sure we can force even higher than current profits, it's just a matter of jacking up the rates.
So why won't big IP industry agree to this? It's all about distribution control.
Does anyone here seriously think any of this will change so long as companies can contributite in unlimited fashion to parties? Our economy will slump, and compitition will suffer so long as this contiues. Soft money==Secondary Interest in Consumer Rights. I understand why John McCain always looks so angry at formal proceedings.
There are fair moderate solutions out there that are not discussed by big media because any loss of power by any IP holders, might mean they are next. Effectivly big media hates the idea of the general public being educated about IP law. Everybody is just a bunch of mushrooms to them. You know, feed them shit, keep them in the dark...
If the Supreme Court does not favor speech over Hollywood's interests, our journey to the dark side will be complete.
As physical items become (nearly) as close to free(gratis) as information can be now, I fear the effects of existing business being guarenteed a profit despite a change in technical ability and need. In that vain the, FCC owning all the airwaves and dolling them out to a few chosen ones under certain conditions is very much like feudalism. If this end justifies the means (legally destroying time shifting while defending corperate profit) We are setting up the legal tools to legally enforce true feudalism in meatspace.
The legal decisions of the next 10 years can make the next 60 heaven or hell. Near godlike control over the structures that make up all physical matter and physical scarcity needs to distributed among all that do not abuse it. Damn Hollywood for not having vision beyond quarterly reports, and damn us for not fighting them harder.
Respect for creativity and self reliance over profit is esential for invention, self respect and true inovation. Liberty or death.
Economic times are bad (lower than 30% drop in 8 months, never mind how bad it would be without a single day bottom, federal bank insurance, and interest rate adjustments.)
War on terrorism ~= war on orginizied crime. (the point is it's a bottomless money pit better fought by vigilance by the people than the government)
About the only thing missing is prohibition. But we have global taxing and rulemaking without representation to make up for that, or perhaps SSSCA could make computing the underground role by (effectivly) prohibiting computers.
I wish more people would learn from history, it might save us some pain.
In the long term open kernel driver compatibility will be on a checklist for everything people buy/construct. Future computers will be more like smart switches with storage than pricy all in one boxes in the scale of things. How many (non-computer) cpu's are in your house now? 20?, 30?, 100?
As...
Making distributed computing optimization choices becomes more automatic/mature
More programs come already built and compiled for parallel processing
Chips that run your dishwasher become more overpowered due to minimum power/cost when fabricating.
Wireless LAN bandwith speed/volume grows
Administration of encrytion between trusted machines and establishing that trust becomes trivial/automatic.
Why buy a single expensive PC when you can add computing modules to a pool a little at a time. Sure this isn't the most effcient way to grow computing power, but ethernet isn't the fastest way to move packets either. Both are scalable, both are easy. We will begin to see people taking atvantage of all of their untapped computing potential.
This will happen, but perhaps not in the USA. Companies like Microsoft will never allow it, as long as they call the shots, because it requires the software to be as flexible as the hardware. Flexible==No more monopoly.
Being a part of the devlopment of these things is just one example of why US techs need to be able to use encryption and reverse engineer without fear of legal torture. The desktop is a worthwhile fight because it is a fight for standards everywhere. I know I don't want to live in a tech getto, because MS needs to dominate the desktop for their own goals.
I read Timothy's comments differntly. I read it as, "don't think this means you can relax your efforts to educate and lobby, freedom's cost is eternal vigilance."
Why he didn't say that exactly I don't know. Maybe Slashdot is denial about becoming a "indepenant tech interest" activist group
"Theoretically, it can go so far as to strip the RIAA of all of their music copyrights. I'm not aware of any cases that go quite this far. There's an old case involving one of Edison's companies that might shed some light. It's the classic case of illegal bundling; but it wasn't dealt with under antitrust but rather under patent misuse. Copyright misuse is incredibly rare, BTW; patent misuse is much more common as a legal doctrine.
Basically, Edison's company invented the movie projector, and held the patent on the projector. Edison's company also made films.
In order to use the projectors, a theatre owner needed to get a patent license. (Remember, in order to use a patented article, you need a patent license? This is an example.) Edison, of course, happily licensed the projectors. However, a standard clause in the patent license was that the theatre owners sign an exclusive contract with Edison's film company.
The theatre owners protested. Edison's films were not that good. And they won: although I can't remember what the remedy was, I think it may have been just the striking out of that clause in the contract. The rationale was that Edison was trying to use the patent in a way that the legislation did not want him to. Also, the film contracts did not expire with the patents, which was seen (correctly) as an attempt to unlawfully extend the term of the patent."
Mod parent up. This is realy interesting.
I can here the Judges booming cynical voice now. "Objection sustained. So Miss Rosen, you didn't pay much attention to the courts insights into Edisons movie theater licencing. Can you explain how this is different than your DVD restrictions. Then you will please explain your relationship with the orginiztion that created the DVD standards...I'm waiting."
Along the same lines, does anyone know of cases where resale of printing press plates and acompinying licences to print their content were found to be fair to be resold?
How about a business on trial for using a printing press patent to licence(enforce cough *choke*) content restrictions?
How could I donate to fund such research? I think I might write the EFF on this.
I am a one issue voter. I don't care about anything else. If you vote for or support this bill in any way, I will (1) vote against you, (2) give $xxx to your opponent, and (3) urge all my friends to vote against you."
Thank you that was the approach I was looking for.
"I'm a Canadian so my comments to the senetor would mean less then zero"
Maybe not....
Dear Senator Fritz Hollings
I request that you please, please sign the SSSCA in it's current form so Canada can become the new tech capital of the world.
I will only be happy when Santa Clara is a landfill and Yahoo.com comes up in French. The level of cushy tech jobs the US has simply isn't fair and there is no logical reason that South Carolinans would do anything to support the interweb underground porn thingy.
I'm sure many South Carolinans feel the same as I do about those NY consultant dweebs with their fancy laptop thingies. Why is the Interweb and three thousand dollar cup holders such a big deal anyway. We want fifty thousand dollar secratary jobs and Italian sports cars for our wonderful non-hoser computer specialists.
Thank you you for giving us our chance, and give our thanks to Hollywood to.
People want to give John Lennon money. Their emotions cloud the fact that even if he wasn't dead, he still wouldn't get most(if any) of the money they bought Beetles albums with.
The problem is they don't realize this is the end result of these originally well intentioned laws.
Unfortunatly we can only trust Internet and independant papers on this issue, mainstream media cannot be trusted to cover this, they have to much at stake. That said, at true news sources attacking "Works for Hire" in the headlines is a good way to seperate the industry from the artist in the public eye.
I believe the duration of copyright overall is the problem, but this proposed battle against unfair "Works for Hire" makes it harder for the MPAA/RIAA to argue. The fact that little money goes to the artists is semintuitive with that phrase(although that intuition may be flawed.)
Artist writes song -> Artist records song -> artist gets paid flat fee and never gets paid for song again -> all profits and control go to industry.
Look at what I started. The point was that guns were intended to serve a purpose. I was mainly responding to the idea that Americans as a whole were some kind of brutal thugs that aprove of their children murdering themselves.
That was a low blow and unfair.
If we are right or wrong about guns role in preventing a govenmental coup there is a sound philisophical reason, founded in the constitution for having them. Your lowered crime rate says nothing about the intentions of you elected (and yet to be elected) officals. Allowing guns is of the same mind set as allowing encryption. If it would be a vital part of an effort undo a goverment that no longer represents the people, we must be allowed to have it. (Not that there aren't tons of other good arguments for encryption outside of that.)
It's not like I like guns, they scare the shit out of me. I believe that freedom is worth the few lives that guns take, so long as we make our best effort to minimize those deaths. This "one death, is one death to many" is bull. Freedom is more important than crime rate perfection. I'm all for 5 day waiting periods and smart guns and putting the damn thing in a damn safe and praying you will never need it.
And on the 5 marines with sniper rifles vs 2000 rednecks you forget one thing.
Three dozen of those two thousand rednecks will have USMC tatooed on their arms, and military issue wepons. Just seeing those people out there will make the currently enlisted climb out of their trees white flag in hand and start asking questions!
A decent chunk of gun toteing rednecks are veterans. Will that be enough? Who knows, but it has a shot.
""Instead of keeping terrorists off planes, biometric surveillance is being used to keep
punks out of shopping malls""
"No, it ISN'T."
Isn't what you mean to say. "It keeps terrorists off of planes AND keeps punks out of shopping malls." It sounds like you are arguing it doesn't do anything...
"So they And, contrary to what the report says, MANY terrorists have been caught using CCTV: most
recently, the loony rascist who planted a nailbomb in my local market street was caught using CCTV
images. PLenty of IRA bombers have been caught in similar ways."
OK good. So where are the punks supposed to shop?
"This is not to say that the potential for abuse isn't there, or that there won't be some test cases before
things are bedded down; and it behoves us to be *cough* vigilant about abuses of the system."
Very vigilant. How about specific legal protections, like being able to log into a web site and perform meta surveillance. If the security team looks up a skirt and you are watching their peticular cammera, you look up a skirt!!! Bet they won't do it again after the first time they caught.
"But really, Americans should worry more about your right to avoid having to mop your children's brains off the floor because they had a bad attack of the teenage blues and decided to end it all."
Having guns here is about keeping the govenment (local or federal) in check. Kids can kill themselves with a car and a closed garage too. Cars can be far more dangerous than hand guns. What if the Columbine kids ran over kids at 3:30 with their parents SUV. Would we ban SUVs??????
"What's more, even in this hotbed of class A drug dealing, there are still less than 400 murders in the
entire COUNTRY per YEAR. (Population 65 million.) Personally, I'm just happy that I can walk
around Brixton at 3am without worrying that I'm going to be shot."
Me too, I just hope the police don't start exercising undue force, for your sake. They keep swat equiptment, including machine guns, at every station right?
Bin Ladden attacked the USA and NY specifically for our freedoms and tollerance. Let me spell this out for anyone who dosn't get it. Female Afganistani imagrants can walk around UNVAILED here. That makes Bin Laden and the Taliban look REALLY BAD when word gets back to the homeland. Our freedom threatens their Draconian grip on their people so they tried to destroy a symbol of our successful marketplace made possible by our broad FREEDOMS.
If cameras make those women feel as if they must wear a mask for fear that somone will find SOMTHING that they are doing wrong then BIN LADEN HAS WON! Even if it is from his grave. The attacks were a SUCCESS if the blanket of uniform bland gray ash that covered Greenwich Village remains there!!!!! After all, where are the punks supposed to shop?
By what measurement can the federal government observe a chilling effect on the tech industry? Is the rate of immigration and emigration by computer professionals factored into such a figure? Are there growth rates or statistics for venture capital available to new tech companies? What precedent is set by similar figures in other industries when industry related legislation is passed?
All this leads too...
If a chilling effect is effectively established, and our standing in the international field of computing is diminished do to new legal standards, what responsibilities does the federal government have to reverse such legislation? What reasons could they use to justify ignoring a chilling effect?
And ultimately...
Could a investigation into the negative effects of soft money contributions occur, if it was shown that a chilling effect on an industry was caused and ignored by politicians serving the needs of a few well moneyed companies in that same industry? Who would conduct such an investigation?
Is there a freedom software distro for Microsoft Windows. Such a thing would be a great boon. They should be everywhere like AOL cd's.
Such a thing should include...
OpenOffice, Mozilla, Gimp, Apache(not enabled by default), Perl And so on...
I mean really how many people would buy office XP if they had a shiny "new" cd sitting around with a free compatible equivilent. It is the perfect opportunity to move people to the apps, and then the OS looks much more tempting.
And no most people don't write vbs scripts in word they have enough trouble with fonts and margins.
Could some Linuxish orginiztion pick up the tab for the creation or shipping???
"You assume a lot here. You assume that he had the means and opportunity to jump bail. That he would have been able to make it onto a plane or boat out of the country without getting caught. There would be a huge risk in attempting such a thing as well. If he were caught, he would certainly spend quite a while in jail. It makes more sense for him to try to stick it out in court than to try to run."
I am really only assuming one thing, if he planned a run for it, he had reasonably good chance to succeed.
Thats why I normally reserve gut feelings about heros and such things to myself. We can't really know he didn't explore and give up hope of the success of that that route. We can't know it is bravery.
I wonder how many medal wearing war heros killed 2 dozen enemy soldiers and bearly escaped a conflict with their lives, but did it strictly out of self preservation not out of any sense of duty.
I don't think we could begin to know what level duty he feels until the trial (and risk of self incrimination) is over. We can only follow our gut.
"While I hope Dmitri wins his case and gets to go home soon, I don't really think he did anything particularly courageous. At least not knowingly."
If he did know it was going to happen then I would question his character more. Going off to be martyr invalidates the martyrdom to some degree.
"He never thought he'd be arrested here."
Ah, but when he was he rose to the occasion. He could have snuck out of the county and junped bail. But instead he choose to stay and plead not guilty....
I don't hand that title out easily. If I were in Russia, I got snagged with a BS DMCA like Russian law and the US was backing me up on human rights princibles think I would skip bail.
He didn't skip bail, he didn't even plea bargin, he is risking 25 years in a forign jail to do what he thinks is right. That makes him a hero for freedom across the world.
I am sorry that our hatred of intelligence, the desire to "level the intellectual playing field", and sloth have made you leave.
We are headed for horrible things, right now only the Supreme court (The constitution is toast when one of them dies. They won't retire, even they don't trust Bush.), public proof of treason by someone like Archroft, or bringing guns to bear can save us from fascist oppression. Americans no longer seek justice or even truth, just a comfey couch and proof of our superiority.
Let us know how things are there for a open sourcish computer geek, we may have to run for our lives.
I hope they eraticate campain contibutions in DC. I would hate to see the fight for the USA's freedom decided between the royalties new royalty and the Timmothy McVeighs of the world. shivver......
I wonder who is next after the geeks. Maybe we should all wear pink square floppy disks patches on our jackets and check into camps now. Look, I am so frustrated with ignorance I invoked Godwins law on myself.
"The legal basis for restrictive EULAs is that you have to make a copy of the software (in your computer's RAM) in order to use it. Copying is prohibited without explicit permission, and so, therefore, is use. Therefore the companies can ask you to sign whatever argument they want before allowing you to use the software."
This seems to compare to map making, which was one of the primary arguments in favor of copright law existing at all. A software cdrom could be compared to a set of plates for a printing press to make a map. If those plates should be availible by licence, so should computer software. That seems to be the logic here.
But this is a symptom of practical constraints more than moral ones. Printing presses were always very expensive and belonged to business before. But the situation has changed now as many people own their own personal printing press(computer), and the plates to print one map(software).
So the real moral question is, should people be allowed so sell their plates along with any licence to make copies of their maps. (legal number of 1 in ram plus more recent fair use protected backup of 1)
So the question really is... Can you resell copyright based licences so long as the number of copies allowed by the licence is honored.
I say yes. That reselling printing press plates with the number of copies allowed by licence is moral and would have been allowed had it come up.
Any lawers with a good understanding of copyright history in the mix?
Are their any legal precidents set? Did reselling printing press plates along with an allowed number of copies ever come up?
For example: A publishing house bought plates and the right to print say 800 maps for resale. They land a contract for printing a best selling book and make more money printing copies of that. Rather than sitting on the plates until the map is inaccurate they resell the plates with rights to print 300 unprinted maps remaining. The map desinger takes them to court, claiming he never gave them permission to do such a thing.
"Some details, in my opinon a Presskit should be published when a thread is closed. It should consist of the article itself, an overview of the links used in it, and all Informative/Interesting/etc. comments with a threshhold greater than 3. "
Mod this baby up!!!!!!! On topic and a good idea, when the hell does that happen? Well actually it happens every 30 comments or so:)
Slashdot Mirror
Since we broke into the conversation, Has anyone used the IBM 275 20" (19.8) Flat
1920x1440@75Hz I found one good review on it but nothing else. I would like one for christmas?? but I haven't been able to get a review from a source I know.
I was comparing it to the Mitsubisi 200 Diamond Plus Natural Flat
22" (20") 1800x1440@72 Hz
Throw in military protection and I believe what you are describing is a government. This is the beginings of a world government, and we should be electing a seperate offical to represent us for it. Perhaps even voting in a presidential like election as well. Anything else is a wasted opportunity. We have the opportunity to inspire/republics and democrocies in countries that have never seen them before. It has the opportunity to civilize a variety of governments by having their citizens participate in a new and wonderfull process. Unfortunatly greed seems to be the order of the day with the current system in the US and the WTO meetings are just a easy way for presidents to pay back campain contributions with favors.
Our government is a slave and our press is their masters. Ben Franklin's fears about copyright have been realized. If US officals really cared about democracy they would create one limited over-government for the world and give up their some of their power to the peoples choice. Hopefully enough of the non-US goverments recognise the civilizing power of such an orginization and work around our currently undermined state.
Good luck to them.
On the other hand, money is a VERY powerfull incentive. "
You hit the nail on the head there, each situation is different. Each type of IP and each product is different, the key is moderation of reward or profit. IP monopoly rewards should be dolled out based on a proportion of the effort put in. Perhaps the same R&D cost numbers used for tax breaks (at our expense) could be used to assign a multiple of that total R&D cost (say 2.5x) before compulsory licencing takes over (say half of profits on sales of the drug.)
My numbers are probobly not optimal but using those methods I'm sure we can force even higher than current profits, it's just a matter of jacking up the rates.
So why won't big IP industry agree to this? It's all about distribution control.
Does anyone here seriously think any of this will change so long as companies can contributite in unlimited fashion to parties? Our economy will slump, and compitition will suffer so long as this contiues. Soft money==Secondary Interest in Consumer Rights. I understand why John McCain always looks so angry at formal proceedings.
There are fair moderate solutions out there that are not discussed by big media because any loss of power by any IP holders, might mean they are next. Effectivly big media hates the idea of the general public being educated about IP law. Everybody is just a bunch of mushrooms to them. You know, feed them shit, keep them in the dark...
Eeeeevvvvviiiilll Slaaaaaassshhdoooooot!!!
and drum roll please.....
As physical items become (nearly) as close to free(gratis) as information can be now, I fear the effects of existing business being guarenteed a profit despite a change in technical ability and need. In that vain the, FCC owning all the airwaves and dolling them out to a few chosen ones under certain conditions is very much like feudalism. If this end justifies the means (legally destroying time shifting while defending corperate profit) We are setting up the legal tools to legally enforce true feudalism in meatspace.
The legal decisions of the next 10 years can make the next 60 heaven or hell. Near godlike control over the structures that make up all physical matter and physical scarcity needs to distributed among all that do not abuse it. Damn Hollywood for not having vision beyond quarterly reports, and damn us for not fighting them harder.
Respect for creativity and self reliance over profit is esential for invention, self respect and true inovation. Liberty or death.
About the only thing missing is prohibition. But we have global taxing and rulemaking without representation to make up for that, or perhaps SSSCA could make computing the underground role by (effectivly) prohibiting computers.
I wish more people would learn from history, it might save us some pain.
As...
- Making distributed computing optimization choices becomes more automatic/mature
- More programs come already built and compiled for parallel processing
- Chips that run your dishwasher become more overpowered due to minimum power/cost when fabricating.
- Wireless LAN bandwith speed/volume grows
- Administration of encrytion between trusted machines and establishing that trust becomes trivial/automatic.
Why buy a single expensive PC when you can add computing modules to a pool a little at a time. Sure this isn't the most effcient way to grow computing power, but ethernet isn't the fastest way to move packets either. Both are scalable, both are easy. We will begin to see people taking atvantage of all of their untapped computing potential.This will happen, but perhaps not in the USA. Companies like Microsoft will never allow it, as long as they call the shots, because it requires the software to be as flexible as the hardware. Flexible==No more monopoly.
Being a part of the devlopment of these things is just one example of why US techs need to be able to use encryption and reverse engineer without fear of legal torture. The desktop is a worthwhile fight because it is a fight for standards everywhere. I know I don't want to live in a tech getto, because MS needs to dominate the desktop for their own goals.
Why he didn't say that exactly I don't know. Maybe Slashdot is denial about becoming a "indepenant tech interest" activist group
Hey, all the team needs to do is ask.
How about protests? Did they shiver a little at a WTO sized protest? Perhaps a meatspace rally is in order?
Basically, Edison's company invented the movie projector, and held the patent on the projector. Edison's company also made films.
In order to use the projectors, a theatre owner needed to get a patent license. (Remember, in order to use a patented article, you need a patent license? This is an example.) Edison, of course, happily licensed the projectors. However, a standard clause in the patent license was that the theatre owners sign an exclusive contract with Edison's film company.
The theatre owners protested. Edison's films were not that good. And they won: although I can't remember what the remedy was, I think it may have been just the striking out of that clause in the contract. The rationale was that Edison was trying to use the patent in a way that the legislation did not want him to. Also, the film contracts did not expire with the patents, which was seen (correctly) as an attempt to unlawfully extend the term of the patent."
Mod parent up. This is realy interesting.
I can here the Judges booming cynical voice now. "Objection sustained. So Miss Rosen, you didn't pay much attention to the courts insights into Edisons movie theater licencing. Can you explain how this is different than your DVD restrictions. Then you will please explain your relationship with the orginiztion that created the DVD standards...I'm waiting."
Along the same lines, does anyone know of cases where resale of printing press plates and acompinying licences to print their content were found to be fair to be resold?
How about a business on trial for using a printing press patent to licence(enforce cough *choke*) content restrictions?
How could I donate to fund such research? I think I might write the EFF on this.
I am a one issue voter. I don't care about anything else. If you vote for or support this bill in any way, I will (1) vote against you, (2) give $xxx to your opponent, and (3) urge all my friends to vote against you."
Thank you that was the approach I was looking for.
Spread the word.
Maybe not....
Dear Senator Fritz Hollings
I request that you please, please sign the SSSCA in it's current form so Canada can become the new tech capital of the world.
I will only be happy when Santa Clara is a landfill and Yahoo.com comes up in French. The level of cushy tech jobs the US has simply isn't fair and there is no logical reason that South Carolinans would do anything to support the interweb underground porn thingy.
I'm sure many South Carolinans feel the same as I do about those NY consultant dweebs with their fancy laptop thingies. Why is the Interweb and three thousand dollar cup holders such a big deal anyway. We want fifty thousand dollar secratary jobs and Italian sports cars for our wonderful non-hoser computer specialists.
Thank you you for giving us our chance, and give our thanks to Hollywood to.
iplayfast
A thankful Canadan.
Ahhh Microsoft sharholders meeting...
... Scum and Villany"
"You Will Never Find a More Wretched
Hive
The problem is they don't realize this is the end result of these originally well intentioned laws.
Unfortunatly we can only trust Internet and independant papers on this issue, mainstream media cannot be trusted to cover this, they have to much at stake. That said, at true news sources attacking "Works for Hire" in the headlines is a good way to seperate the industry from the artist in the public eye.
I believe the duration of copyright overall is the problem, but this proposed battle against unfair "Works for Hire" makes it harder for the MPAA/RIAA to argue. The fact that little money goes to the artists is semintuitive with that phrase(although that intuition may be flawed.)
Artist writes song -> Artist records song -> artist gets paid flat fee and never gets paid for song again -> all profits and control go to industry.
So copyright protects the artist, ehh?
Look at what I started. The point was that guns were intended to serve a purpose. I was mainly responding to the idea that Americans as a whole were some kind of brutal thugs that aprove of their children murdering themselves.
That was a low blow and unfair.
If we are right or wrong about guns role in preventing a govenmental coup there is a sound philisophical reason, founded in the constitution for having them. Your lowered crime rate says nothing about the intentions of you elected (and yet to be elected) officals. Allowing guns is of the same mind set as allowing encryption. If it would be a vital part of an effort undo a goverment that no longer represents the people, we must be allowed to have it. (Not that there aren't tons of other good arguments for encryption outside of that.)
It's not like I like guns, they scare the shit out of me. I believe that freedom is worth the few lives that guns take, so long as we make our best effort to minimize those deaths. This "one death, is one death to many" is bull. Freedom is more important than crime rate perfection. I'm all for 5 day waiting periods and smart guns and putting the damn thing in a damn safe and praying you will never need it.
And on the 5 marines with sniper rifles vs 2000 rednecks you forget one thing.
Three dozen of those two thousand rednecks will have USMC tatooed on their arms, and military issue wepons. Just seeing those people out there will make the currently enlisted climb out of their trees white flag in hand and start asking questions!
A decent chunk of gun toteing rednecks are veterans. Will that be enough? Who knows, but it has a shot.
"No, it ISN'T."
Isn't what you mean to say. "It keeps terrorists off of planes AND keeps punks out of shopping malls." It sounds like you are arguing it doesn't do anything...
"So they And, contrary to what the report says, MANY terrorists have been caught using CCTV: most recently, the loony rascist who planted a nailbomb in my local market street was caught using CCTV images. PLenty of IRA bombers have been caught in similar ways."
OK good. So where are the punks supposed to shop?
"This is not to say that the potential for abuse isn't there, or that there won't be some test cases before things are bedded down; and it behoves us to be *cough* vigilant about abuses of the system."
Very vigilant. How about specific legal protections, like being able to log into a web site and perform meta surveillance. If the security team looks up a skirt and you are watching their peticular cammera, you look up a skirt!!! Bet they won't do it again after the first time they caught.
"But really, Americans should worry more about your right to avoid having to mop your children's brains off the floor because they had a bad attack of the teenage blues and decided to end it all."
Having guns here is about keeping the govenment (local or federal) in check. Kids can kill themselves with a car and a closed garage too. Cars can be far more dangerous than hand guns. What if the Columbine kids ran over kids at 3:30 with their parents SUV. Would we ban SUVs??????
"What's more, even in this hotbed of class A drug dealing, there are still less than 400 murders in the entire COUNTRY per YEAR. (Population 65 million.) Personally, I'm just happy that I can walk around Brixton at 3am without worrying that I'm going to be shot."
Me too, I just hope the police don't start exercising undue force, for your sake. They keep swat equiptment, including machine guns, at every station right?
Bin Ladden attacked the USA and NY specifically for our freedoms and tollerance. Let me spell this out for anyone who dosn't get it. Female Afganistani imagrants can walk around UNVAILED here. That makes Bin Laden and the Taliban look REALLY BAD when word gets back to the homeland. Our freedom threatens their Draconian grip on their people so they tried to destroy a symbol of our successful marketplace made possible by our broad FREEDOMS.
If cameras make those women feel as if they must wear a mask for fear that somone will find SOMTHING that they are doing wrong then BIN LADEN HAS WON! Even if it is from his grave. The attacks were a SUCCESS if the blanket of uniform bland gray ash that covered Greenwich Village remains there!!!!! After all, where are the punks supposed to shop?
Sincerly
A pissed off NYer
All this leads too...
If a chilling effect is effectively established, and our standing in the international field of computing is diminished do to new legal standards, what responsibilities does the federal government have to reverse such legislation? What reasons could they use to justify ignoring a chilling effect?
And ultimately...
Could a investigation into the negative effects of soft money contributions occur, if it was shown that a chilling effect on an industry was caused and ignored by politicians serving the needs of a few well moneyed companies in that same industry? Who would conduct such an investigation?
Is there a freedom software distro for Microsoft Windows. Such a thing would be a great boon. They should be everywhere like AOL cd's.
Such a thing should include
OpenOffice, Mozilla, Gimp, Apache(not enabled by default), Perl And so on...
I mean really how many people would buy office XP if they had a shiny "new" cd sitting around with a free compatible equivilent. It is the perfect opportunity to move people to the apps, and then the OS looks much more tempting.
And no most people don't write vbs scripts in word they have enough trouble with fonts and margins.
Could some Linuxish orginiztion pick up the tab for the creation or shipping???
I am really only assuming one thing, if he planned a run for it, he had reasonably good chance to succeed.
Thats why I normally reserve gut feelings about heros and such things to myself. We can't really know he didn't explore and give up hope of the success of that that route. We can't know it is bravery.
I wonder how many medal wearing war heros killed 2 dozen enemy soldiers and bearly escaped a conflict with their lives, but did it strictly out of self preservation not out of any sense of duty.
I don't think we could begin to know what level duty he feels until the trial (and risk of self incrimination) is over. We can only follow our gut.
If he did know it was going to happen then I would question his character more. Going off to be martyr invalidates the martyrdom to some degree.
"He never thought he'd be arrested here."
Ah, but when he was he rose to the occasion. He could have snuck out of the county and junped bail. But instead he choose to stay and plead not guilty....
I don't hand that title out easily. If I were in Russia, I got snagged with a BS DMCA like Russian law and the US was backing me up on human rights princibles think I would skip bail.
He didn't skip bail, he didn't even plea bargin, he is risking 25 years in a forign jail to do what he thinks is right. That makes him a hero for freedom across the world.
We are headed for horrible things, right now only the Supreme court (The constitution is toast when one of them dies. They won't retire, even they don't trust Bush.), public proof of treason by someone like Archroft, or bringing guns to bear can save us from fascist oppression. Americans no longer seek justice or even truth, just a comfey couch and proof of our superiority.
Let us know how things are there for a open sourcish computer geek, we may have to run for our lives.
I hope they eraticate campain contibutions in DC. I would hate to see the fight for the USA's freedom decided between the royalties new royalty and the Timmothy McVeighs of the world. shivver......
I wonder who is next after the geeks. Maybe we should all wear pink square floppy disks patches on our jackets and check into camps now. Look, I am so frustrated with ignorance I invoked Godwins law on myself.
Dimitri, Please show this country what being a hero is all about.
TNT showed a version of "The Craft" today, with the plane crash refrences all cut out. shiver
"Freedom, taken for granted because we don't know what opression means.", Anthrax
This seems to compare to map making, which was one of the primary arguments in favor of copright law existing at all. A software cdrom could be compared to a set of plates for a printing press to make a map. If those plates should be availible by licence, so should computer software. That seems to be the logic here.
But this is a symptom of practical constraints more than moral ones. Printing presses were always very expensive and belonged to business before. But the situation has changed now as many people own their own personal printing press(computer), and the plates to print one map(software).
So the real moral question is, should people be allowed so sell their plates along with any licence to make copies of their maps. (legal number of 1 in ram plus more recent fair use protected backup of 1)
So the question really is... Can you resell copyright based licences so long as the number of copies allowed by the licence is honored.
I say yes. That reselling printing press plates with the number of copies allowed by licence is moral and would have been allowed had it come up.
Any lawers with a good understanding of copyright history in the mix?
Are their any legal precidents set? Did reselling printing press plates along with an allowed number of copies ever come up?
For example: A publishing house bought plates and the right to print say 800 maps for resale. They land a contract for printing a best selling book and make more money printing copies of that. Rather than sitting on the plates until the map is inaccurate they resell the plates with rights to print 300 unprinted maps remaining. The map desinger takes them to court, claiming he never gave them permission to do such a thing.
What happened?
Mod this baby up!!!!!!! On topic and a good idea, when the hell does that happen? Well actually it happens every 30 comments or so