yeah, this should be modded insightful alright. Good job, mods.
*sigh*
The internet, where common sense, etiquette, and respect for fellow posters goes right out the window.
You know what's funny? You wouldn't DARE say this directly to his face because you know you'd get your ass kicked. But on the internet, it's ok to be an asshole.
Oh, and make no bones about it, you are a class A 100% certified asshole.
You seem to have forgotten that a) you were in their country,--right, of his own free will he went into that country and started "blowing shit up". yes, he signed up for the military, but signing up does not mean you're looking to go kill someone, more of a sense of duty to your country. Which it sounds like to me you have absolutely no idea what that's like.
b) they were defending their stuff, More like using innocent civilians as cover while they continued their gorilla warfare tactics.
c) you went in there based on lies and fabrications, Uh, no. He went there because he was ordered to. Because to do otherwise would have resulted in his being placed in the brig for being Absent without leave.
c) you went in there as a glorified mercenary (very much like a Roman Centurion) in order to pave way for the rulers of your Empire to dictate to your victims your Imperial Way Of Life, which they must accept or die, including which of their stuff is to be stolen by your country's top thieves.
Oh, two "C"s...guess in your zeal to lay into the guy you couldn't hit the D key huh? Figures.
Yes, a glorified mercenary. That's the ticket! Wooh, you're on a roll now. Imperial way of life!? Here's a tip for you, you ignorant elitist prick, 99% of the citizens of the US don't give two flying fucks about you, your country, or any other country out there. However, since we're (unfortunately)) the last remaining "Super Power" at least for the time being, we're the ones getting screwed over time and time again by being backed into a corner by the governments of the world who DEMAND that the US lend support to whatever country is currently blowing themselves to hell and back. Do you think we wanted to go to fucking Somalia? Do you think we wanted to run around in the fucking sand in the Middle East? Do you HONESTLY think we're a nation of cowboys who get off on killing people and blowing shit up? I swear to God, people like you make me absolutely SICK. The US is damned if we do, damned if we don't. I am pretty certain that you're posting from a country that would have been speaking German right about now if it were not IN LARGE part to the heroic effort of the US servicemen and women who came to the aide of most of Europe.
It's easy to sit on the sidelines and blast into anyone who serves their country by going to war. I hope that some day you can see what war is like, maybe it'll wipe that smug stupid self-righteous shit you're spewing right off your face.
And old-time NSA employees, military and civilian, despise him for it, because a lot of them get off on unhindered access to communications.
No, for them, it makes their job easier. The issue, when boiled down, is the old "greater good" argument again.
Suppose they wiretap 1000 phones without a warrant. 999 of them are mistakes and nothing comes from it except the violation of citizen rights. (which is a huge thing, IMO) but that 1000th one yields a goldmine of terrorist activity that they would have missed had they been forced to wait for a warrant. Because of the wiretap being quickly put in place, they're able to stop a legitimate terrorist threat.
That's a good thing, right? But it's also a hugely BAD thing as well.
A damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. But to say it's because NSA folks get off on it is simply stupid.
I was with you up to the "USA makes bad decisions" part.
The US is the 900lb gorilla of the world right now. The US is EXPECTED to "fix" issues in the world simply because we're the US. We're expected to give more aid, give more money, and give more troops/technology/weapons when the UN decides to do something.
It's rather funny that "the world" at large hates the US (apparently) so much. Sometimes I wish the US would go back to Isolationism so the world at large can realize that while the US is not perfect, in most cases we're doing two things: 1) trying to help out and 2) protecting our interests. It's the same things every other country in the world does (minus the 1st point there, which is trying to help out) but since the US is such a global power, we're vilified.
It would be extremely intriguing to watch what would happen if say..the US pulled completely out of South Korea, for example.
And you don't think this is an attention grabber which will help lead to increase profits for the game ? There's a reason they went for the "real" aspect, and it's not out of good feelings for the Marines.
The average enlisted military man doesn't make much money at all. If they receive residuals for telling their story in this game, and Konami makes a buck because it's "realistic" then what's the problem here? Konami is doing ok by me, they're giving these Marines the medium in which to tell their story (and they wanted to use a video game as the means) and they're also taking the chance that this game will sell well because it's based on a true event told by people who were actually involved.
Where are you from? I want to go back through the history of your country and list all the atrocities committed by your countrymen to show just how big of a hypocrite you are.
Very well said. It's one thing to sit on the sidelines and spout your views, it's another to go there and be "in the shit" and try to deal with it.
Some of the people responding here are acting like these Marines went in, killed everything in sight and then sat back drinking a beer laughing about it.
WTF? They're human just like you and I. (I should know, I was in the Corps) This crap affected them the same as it would anyone else. This is an attempt at telling their story, and people want to treat it like it's either an attention grab or a money grab.
At my work, we allow two IM programs, Pidgin and Trillian. Both are wide open, however all conversations are logged via Postini. My company (a financial firm) took the opposite route, rather than block a whole bunch of programs and port #s, we allow just about every form of internet communication and log it all.
So far, it's worked out fairly well. Users respect that the company respects their ability to not be "Big Brothered" to death by allowing everything but making them aware that it's all logged.
As far as IM clients go...what type of phone system do you have? If it's a Cisco system, you can look at Presence Server (CUPS) which has a built-in IM client and various other very nice to have options...just a thought.
Actually, in re-reading the stupid thing, no, actually I didn't.
What the idiot who modded me troll also didn't realize is that I thought it was refreshing that he gave her the gifts he did and while it might be a frigging "break from normal diplomacy" whatever the hell that means, it's nice that he put some effort into it (or had an aide do so) rather than just give some stupid signed picture...to anyone and everyone who drops by for a "state visit".
That's lame, shows absolutely no thinking whatsoever, and is one of the things that's actually wrong with this world today.
But whatever, you guys by happy with lame "normal" diplomacy, I'll be over here saying it's nice that he did something different. And honestly, if this has the frigging "world community" up in arms, then I guess we're all doing a whole hell of a lot better than has been reported since we've got such a stupid little thing to pick a nit over.
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The linux community needs JonKatz as it's primary spokesman.
Voices from the HellKernel:
Here is Frankie P Bagadonuts. He's a Linux user. He's 17 years old and lives in an abandoned warehouse near the "bad side" of the train tracks. Every morning he rides a bicycle hooked to his generator to power his network. He has not eaten in 2 days, however his "boxen" power on in 16.453794221 seconds. He is immensely proud of this fact, and has made t-shirts proclaiming his greatness. Later today, at school, he will be stuffed into 3 different lockers and have a ham-sandwich stuff down his shirt and be the recipient of 9 atomic-wedgies. Do not pity Frankie, for his is a common tale of the linux user.
It's like the new guy showing up at the office Christmas party with PBR and dollar store gag gifts for the exchange when everyone else brought drinkable wine or liquor and a $15 gift... then cutting loose a giant fart and laughing loudly about it. Sure, it doesn't really affect business operations, it's just a stupid little party. But now everyone's looking at him kinda funny and thinking "hey, we thought he was cool, but this guy's a bit of an ass." In other words, it may not be harmful, but he certainly isn't doing us any favors.
Dunno about you, but I'd definitely rather go to a party with that guy there than the regular boring same ole same ole.
In other words, Lighten up Francis. It's a frigging gift, not a speech. No wonder this world is so screwed up.
Linux FAILS on the desktop except in specific cases where a user has it installed by someone technically proficient or is technically proficient themselves.
Commercial apps for linux are few and far between.
Games on linux (that are available for Windows and OSX) basically suck and are usually bad clones of games that are awesome on other OSes.
The average user doesn't even know what the hell linux is.
(LOL, they kept the achievements?)
There. There's your bashing. I love linux in the server environment though.
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I did not know you could do that with a kielbasa, you dirty, dirty young man.
will do. I am not the "email" guy for our network, but I'll talk to him tomorrow at some point and let you know.
As far as I know, it basically just logs it, does not use jabber/gtalk or any other IM protocol. It just captures the data and writes it to a file.
Thanks for the response.
I re-read my post it could have appeared to be a smart ass response. (It wasn't, so thanks for responding)
You will have issues later in life if you continue to drink caffeine the way you are now.
Brittle bones, osteoporosis, etc.
You should cut down now.
This happens frequently on TV shows, but has it ever really happened in real life? No.
How do you know?
No, fuck you, seriously.
yeah, this should be modded insightful alright. Good job, mods.
*sigh*
The internet, where common sense, etiquette, and respect for fellow posters goes right out the window.
You know what's funny? You wouldn't DARE say this directly to his face because you know you'd get your ass kicked. But on the internet, it's ok to be an asshole.
Oh, and make no bones about it, you are a class A 100% certified asshole.
You seem to have forgotten that a) you were in their country,--right, of his own free will he went into that country and started "blowing shit up". yes, he signed up for the military, but signing up does not mean you're looking to go kill someone, more of a sense of duty to your country. Which it sounds like to me you have absolutely no idea what that's like.
b) they were defending their stuff, More like using innocent civilians as cover while they continued their gorilla warfare tactics.
c) you went in there based on lies and fabrications, Uh, no. He went there because he was ordered to. Because to do otherwise would have resulted in his being placed in the brig for being Absent without leave.
c) you went in there as a glorified mercenary (very much like a Roman Centurion) in order to pave way for the rulers of your Empire to dictate to your victims your Imperial Way Of Life, which they must accept or die, including which of their stuff is to be stolen by your country's top thieves.
Oh, two "C"s...guess in your zeal to lay into the guy you couldn't hit the D key huh? Figures.
Yes, a glorified mercenary. That's the ticket! Wooh, you're on a roll now. Imperial way of life!? Here's a tip for you, you ignorant elitist prick, 99% of the citizens of the US don't give two flying fucks about you, your country, or any other country out there. However, since we're (unfortunately)) the last remaining "Super Power" at least for the time being, we're the ones getting screwed over time and time again by being backed into a corner by the governments of the world who DEMAND that the US lend support to whatever country is currently blowing themselves to hell and back. Do you think we wanted to go to fucking Somalia? Do you think we wanted to run around in the fucking sand in the Middle East? Do you HONESTLY think we're a nation of cowboys who get off on killing people and blowing shit up? I swear to God, people like you make me absolutely SICK. The US is damned if we do, damned if we don't. I am pretty certain that you're posting from a country that would have been speaking German right about now if it were not IN LARGE part to the heroic effort of the US servicemen and women who came to the aide of most of Europe.
It's easy to sit on the sidelines and blast into anyone who serves their country by going to war. I hope that some day you can see what war is like, maybe it'll wipe that smug stupid self-righteous shit you're spewing right off your face.
And old-time NSA employees, military and civilian, despise him for it, because a lot of them get off on unhindered access to communications.
No, for them, it makes their job easier. The issue, when boiled down, is the old "greater good" argument again.
Suppose they wiretap 1000 phones without a warrant. 999 of them are mistakes and nothing comes from it except the violation of citizen rights. (which is a huge thing, IMO) but that 1000th one yields a goldmine of terrorist activity that they would have missed had they been forced to wait for a warrant. Because of the wiretap being quickly put in place, they're able to stop a legitimate terrorist threat.
That's a good thing, right? But it's also a hugely BAD thing as well.
A damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. But to say it's because NSA folks get off on it is simply stupid.
People use communication tools available to them to organize and carry out tactics?
Oh, it's because it's twitter it's a novelty.
I was referring to the "Hey America, want to know why everyone hates you" part of his ignorant post.
I was with you up to the "USA makes bad decisions" part.
The US is the 900lb gorilla of the world right now. The US is EXPECTED to "fix" issues in the world simply because we're the US. We're expected to give more aid, give more money, and give more troops/technology/weapons when the UN decides to do something.
It's rather funny that "the world" at large hates the US (apparently) so much. Sometimes I wish the US would go back to Isolationism so the world at large can realize that while the US is not perfect, in most cases we're doing two things: 1) trying to help out and 2) protecting our interests. It's the same things every other country in the world does (minus the 1st point there, which is trying to help out) but since the US is such a global power, we're vilified.
It would be extremely intriguing to watch what would happen if say..the US pulled completely out of South Korea, for example.
And you don't think this is an attention grabber which will help lead to increase profits for the game ? There's a reason they went for the "real" aspect, and it's not out of good feelings for the Marines.
The average enlisted military man doesn't make much money at all. If they receive residuals for telling their story in this game, and Konami makes a buck because it's "realistic" then what's the problem here? Konami is doing ok by me, they're giving these Marines the medium in which to tell their story (and they wanted to use a video game as the means) and they're also taking the chance that this game will sell well because it's based on a true event told by people who were actually involved.
I have 0 problems with this.
Where are you from? I want to go back through the history of your country and list all the atrocities committed by your countrymen to show just how big of a hypocrite you are.
Newspapers are dying.
Hind sight is 20/10 (always better than 20/20).
Very well said. It's one thing to sit on the sidelines and spout your views, it's another to go there and be "in the shit" and try to deal with it.
Some of the people responding here are acting like these Marines went in, killed everything in sight and then sat back drinking a beer laughing about it.
WTF? They're human just like you and I. (I should know, I was in the Corps) This crap affected them the same as it would anyone else. This is an attempt at telling their story, and people want to treat it like it's either an attention grab or a money grab.
To them I say shame on you.
We use postini to log all email and instant messenger communications. Postini acts as a proxy and stores each message for each user.
It's one of the requirements we have as a financial firm. (actually, I don't believe its required yet, but will be soon)
Also known as the Law of 24:
Networks are easy, simply "open a socket". (And have a gun. And Jack needs to yell at the network a lot)
Jack: "WHY ARE YOU NOT ROUTING THESE PACKETS! "JUST TELL ME WHERE THE BIT-BUCKET IS!" "WHO ORDERED THE 3COM HUB?"
What? It makes as much sense as the article.
This looks like a good spot to reply. :-)
At my work, we allow two IM programs, Pidgin and Trillian. Both are wide open, however all conversations are logged via Postini. My company (a financial firm) took the opposite route, rather than block a whole bunch of programs and port #s, we allow just about every form of internet communication and log it all.
So far, it's worked out fairly well. Users respect that the company respects their ability to not be "Big Brothered" to death by allowing everything but making them aware that it's all logged.
As far as IM clients go...what type of phone system do you have? If it's a Cisco system, you can look at Presence Server (CUPS) which has a built-in IM client and various other very nice to have options...just a thought.
I would have to say that the moderation on the above comment is exactly why there are not any "critics" of linux in the media.
They'd get labeled trolls and "tards who just don't get it" when everything I said has at least a medium-sized nugget of truth to it.
so thank you for proving my point.
Actually, in re-reading the stupid thing, no, actually I didn't.
What the idiot who modded me troll also didn't realize is that I thought it was refreshing that he gave her the gifts he did and while it might be a frigging "break from normal diplomacy" whatever the hell that means, it's nice that he put some effort into it (or had an aide do so) rather than just give some stupid signed picture...to anyone and everyone who drops by for a "state visit".
That's lame, shows absolutely no thinking whatsoever, and is one of the things that's actually wrong with this world today.
But whatever, you guys by happy with lame "normal" diplomacy, I'll be over here saying it's nice that he did something different. And honestly, if this has the frigging "world community" up in arms, then I guess we're all doing a whole hell of a lot better than has been reported since we've got such a stupid little thing to pick a nit over.
Obviously.
The linux community needs JonKatz as it's primary spokesman.
Voices from the HellKernel:
Here is Frankie P Bagadonuts. He's a Linux user. He's 17 years old and lives in an abandoned warehouse near the "bad side" of the train tracks. Every morning he rides a bicycle hooked to his generator to power his network. He has not eaten in 2 days, however his "boxen" power on in 16.453794221 seconds. He is immensely proud of this fact, and has made t-shirts proclaiming his greatness. Later today, at school, he will be stuffed into 3 different lockers and have a ham-sandwich stuff down his shirt and be the recipient of 9 atomic-wedgies. Do not pity Frankie, for his is a common tale of the linux user.
Yeah, I could totally see that coming from him.
It's like the new guy showing up at the office Christmas party with PBR and dollar store gag gifts for the exchange when everyone else brought drinkable wine or liquor and a $15 gift... then cutting loose a giant fart and laughing loudly about it. Sure, it doesn't really affect business operations, it's just a stupid little party. But now everyone's looking at him kinda funny and thinking "hey, we thought he was cool, but this guy's a bit of an ass." In other words, it may not be harmful, but he certainly isn't doing us any favors.
Dunno about you, but I'd definitely rather go to a party with that guy there than the regular boring same ole same ole.
In other words, Lighten up Francis. It's a frigging gift, not a speech. No wonder this world is so screwed up.
HERETIC!
Oh I'm sorry, this is abuse. Arguments is in 12a.
Linux FAILS on the desktop except in specific cases where a user has it installed by someone technically proficient or is technically proficient themselves.
Commercial apps for linux are few and far between.
Games on linux (that are available for Windows and OSX) basically suck and are usually bad clones of games that are awesome on other OSes.
The average user doesn't even know what the hell linux is.
(LOL, they kept the achievements?)
There. There's your bashing. I love linux in the server environment though.