I'm not saying it should be required, just that I don't understand the complete lack of desire to learn the language spoken by the great majority of people in the country you live in.
I understand that "keeping your heritage and cultural roots" alive is a very good thing, but I also think that there should be at least a few concessions made, in many cases, learning the local language should be one of them.
The strange thing to me, though, is that by and large, hispanic people work their asses off in order to provide for their families, enjoy things/ideals they were not as easily able to get in their own country (otherwise I doubt they'd move here) and are, in almost every case, very good citizens for the US. So it puzzles me as to why learning the English language is not considered important by many. It seems to me that if you have a decent understanding of English then you can go much farther than someone who doesn't. (I'm referring to business wrt the last paragraph)
Captain Ramius: It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive.
I wouldn't move to Italy and expect them to have every label in English, (hell, maybe they do, but I doubt it) I'd expect to learn the language of the country I'm living in, not create my own culture and ignore the language of the country I'm in. I know this sounds xenophobic, and some mod's probably going to call this flamebait but it's not intended to be, merely my observations, having lived in and around Hispanic population centers for much of my life. (San Diego, NM, Texas, and now Northern VA)
*I call it Mexican because it isn't Spanish. "Spain" Spanish and Mexican "Spanish" are not the same, and while the root structure is the same, the slang and many of the verbs are not.
Did you really not understand what "sexting" meant wrt the context it was being used in?
Don't get me wrong, "sexting" is probably the dumbest term I've ever heard for something, but hey, to each their own.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go "sext" this picture of two goats displaying a bit of cleavage to CmdrTaco. He's mighty unpleasant in the mornings if you don't get him his goatporn before noon.
If there is a market and people are willing (think iTunesVideo) then I'm sure it won't take long for the MPAA to start suing.
You know, in the old days we had to go to the theater (oops, sorry, that's theatre for our friends across the pond) and sit with 200 of our closest friends to watch a movie. And we liked it that way.
I'm talking about basically having no recourse but upgrade to a different rev to fix an exiting issue that is caused by a software bug that breaks a couple other things. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
A lot of the time you're forced to upgrade because the bug you're dealing with is affecting a mission critical app (VOIP, for example, PSTN calls randomly failing is a good one) and the resolution breaks something else.
This is my job. I've been doing it for years. To say I'm not reading the release notes is not only missing the point but also wrong.
If I had points, I'd mod you up. I can't count the number of times we upgraded to a newer rev to fix a bug or security flaw only to find that 3 other things broke during the process.
Upgrading code on a Cisco device is a crap-shoot sometimes.
Linux is fine for users who fit (mainly) into two categories:
1) knowledgeable people who like to tinker with computers and have an understanding of the base OS and some of it's quirks. 2) extremely un-knowledgeable people who get linux installed on their desktop by someone from category 1. They make no changes to their desktops, use few programs and if they do have an issue, call "tech support" who is almost always the guy or gal who installed it for them.
In the middle, you have a huge number of people who just want their computer to work. Linux does the trick, but they're conditioned to MSInstallers and setup.exes. They're used to the "Windows Way" and the "Mac Way". They use their computer to play games. They use the internet, email, and maybe some word-processing type stuff.
They don't want to have to change their thought process.
(car analogy time)
It's like being taught how to drive an automatic your whole life and then being forced to drive a stick. There's a learning curve there. And most people simply don't want to try it.
(for the record, I have several different OSes running, Leopard, Ubuntu, XP, and Vista on various computers. I'm agnostic, I use what is best suited for the job.)
Their values are ingrained deeply in about half our populace. They won't go away that easily because they represent the (NECESSARY) voice of selfishness in this nation
So Republicans are selfish?
Wow.
That's a lovely troll you crafted there.
(before you start your all-out blitz attack against the "supposed Republicker who dun took umbrage to whut you said", realize I'm not a Republican. Just someone pointing out your amazingly arrogant and false statement.)
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I'm not saying it should be required, just that I don't understand the complete lack of desire to learn the language spoken by the great majority of people in the country you live in.
I understand that "keeping your heritage and cultural roots" alive is a very good thing, but I also think that there should be at least a few concessions made, in many cases, learning the local language should be one of them.
The strange thing to me, though, is that by and large, hispanic people work their asses off in order to provide for their families, enjoy things/ideals they were not as easily able to get in their own country (otherwise I doubt they'd move here) and are, in almost every case, very good citizens for the US. So it puzzles me as to why learning the English language is not considered important by many. It seems to me that if you have a decent understanding of English then you can go much farther than someone who doesn't. (I'm referring to business wrt the last paragraph)
All completely IMO, of course.
Oh I'm sorry, Officer ThreadKeeper. I'll make sure to not respond with my off-topic comments to your off-topic thread.
Captain Ramius: It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive.
Good.
If some perv in seat 4a can't stay away from porn for the duration of a flight then they've got some serious issues.
the only issue I see is what happens when stuff gets filtered that shouldn't, as you know it will...
Of course, why are you looking up breast cancer on a flight anyway? (Just one example)
That's not picking nits, IMO.
I get unsolicited Mexican spam several times a week. I speak just enough to know that it's a scam service offering to extend my car's warranty.
I also notice that when I go to the store, almost every single label has both English and Mexican* on it even though as of now the Hispanic population is only about 15% of the over-all US population. (source: http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/011910.html )
I wouldn't move to Italy and expect them to have every label in English, (hell, maybe they do, but I doubt it) I'd expect to learn the language of the country I'm living in, not create my own culture and ignore the language of the country I'm in. I know this sounds xenophobic, and some mod's probably going to call this flamebait but it's not intended to be, merely my observations, having lived in and around Hispanic population centers for much of my life. (San Diego, NM, Texas, and now Northern VA)
*I call it Mexican because it isn't Spanish. "Spain" Spanish and Mexican "Spanish" are not the same, and while the root structure is the same, the slang and many of the verbs are not.
I recommend they call it the "damned dirty apes" button.
Objection! Kwesadilo is coherent and making sense. Move to strike Kwesadilo repeatedly about the head, neck, chest, and shoulders with a laptop.
Granted, the jury of public opinion is hereby instructed to mod -1 troll Kwesadilo's comment. Slashdot it adjourned for lunch.
*slams down gavel*
*slams down gavel again*
*bangs head in time to gavel beating*
*ROCK OUT!*
it's shame this got a troll mod. Rather amusing to me, and a tongue-in-cheek reminder at how quickly history is forgotten.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Witch_Trials
Off wit 'es hed.
Did you really not understand what "sexting" meant wrt the context it was being used in?
Don't get me wrong, "sexting" is probably the dumbest term I've ever heard for something, but hey, to each their own.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go "sext" this picture of two goats displaying a bit of cleavage to CmdrTaco. He's mighty unpleasant in the mornings if you don't get him his goatporn before noon.
Skumanick won't show the pictures to anyone, including the girls' lawyers
hard to prove your innocence if you're not given the chance to.
"How long do you think this will last?"
If there is a market and people are willing (think iTunesVideo) then I'm sure it won't take long for the MPAA to start suing.
You know, in the old days we had to go to the theater (oops, sorry, that's theatre for our friends across the pond) and sit with 200 of our closest friends to watch a movie. And we liked it that way.
Damned kids and your fancy technogoogle phones.
What's next? Video texting?
Wrong again!
Its a mix between Jack Nicholson and....your mom.
(Happy Friday folks)
Wow, arrogant much?
I'm talking about basically having no recourse but upgrade to a different rev to fix an exiting issue that is caused by a software bug that breaks a couple other things. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
A lot of the time you're forced to upgrade because the bug you're dealing with is affecting a mission critical app (VOIP, for example, PSTN calls randomly failing is a good one) and the resolution breaks something else.
This is my job. I've been doing it for years. To say I'm not reading the release notes is not only missing the point but also wrong.
Parent poster nailed it.
Even the Russian judge gave him a 9.75.
If I had points, I'd mod you up. I can't count the number of times we upgraded to a newer rev to fix a bug or security flaw only to find that 3 other things broke during the process.
Upgrading code on a Cisco device is a crap-shoot sometimes.
In my opinion, he's right.
Linux is fine for users who fit (mainly) into two categories:
1) knowledgeable people who like to tinker with computers and have an understanding of the base OS and some of it's quirks.
2) extremely un-knowledgeable people who get linux installed on their desktop by someone from category 1. They make no changes to their desktops, use few programs and if they do have an issue, call "tech support" who is almost always the guy or gal who installed it for them.
In the middle, you have a huge number of people who just want their computer to work. Linux does the trick, but they're conditioned to MSInstallers and setup.exes. They're used to the "Windows Way" and the "Mac Way". They use their computer to play games. They use the internet, email, and maybe some word-processing type stuff.
They don't want to have to change their thought process.
(car analogy time)
It's like being taught how to drive an automatic your whole life and then being forced to drive a stick. There's a learning curve there. And most people simply don't want to try it.
(for the record, I have several different OSes running, Leopard, Ubuntu, XP, and Vista on various computers. I'm agnostic, I use what is best suited for the job.)
Oh come on, obviously there is some good there. But go ahead and mention a few things that weren't setup 40+ years ago that are "good".
You might be able to list a few, but the list of things that are essentially removals of freedom is LONG.
Flamebait?
LOL. Whoever moderated this should A) get a sense of humor and B) get their points revoked.
Their values are ingrained deeply in about half our populace. They won't go away that easily because they represent the (NECESSARY) voice of selfishness in this nation
So Republicans are selfish?
Wow.
That's a lovely troll you crafted there.
(before you start your all-out blitz attack against the "supposed Republicker who dun took umbrage to whut you said", realize I'm not a Republican. Just someone pointing out your amazingly arrogant and false statement.)
...for now.
Valve Claims New Steamworks Update "Makes DRM Obsolete"...for now.
Le sigh.
Oh no Sir, you blaspheme. There is no noodly-appendages to be "learnt" about.
This here is Christian God country.
If you don't like it....hey, is that pasta? Smells delish.
SLOWDOWN COWBOY! It's been 1 minute since you last posted.
(Damnit Slashdot, let me post this before the rest of the dotters come in and eat all the noodles)
before you go all roid-rage on me, I was making a joke. So simmer down now. :-D
Evolution is a FACT.
Prove it.
even technical folks sometimes don't like change.
Also, calling people who've worked on DBs for a long time codgers and younger DBAs "twerps" is stupid.
Haha, yeah, tongue in cheek. I get it.
Still lame.
Now get off my patch of closely-cropped ground cover, you callous jerks. ;D
good to know the mods are on top of it.
Do people often put -1 flamebait in their subjects so people will know how to appropriately mod?
This one is + 1 interesting and also -1 off topic.