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German Police Raid Homes of Wikileaks.de Domain Owner
BountyX writes "First and foremost, wikileaks.org is back up after downtime due to server load; however, the German government wants to keep the site down. According to their twitter page, police have raided the home of Wikileaks.de domain owner Theodor Reppe (PDF) over internet censorship lists that were leaked two weeks ago. What the Australian government's secret ACMA internet censorship blacklist has to do with Germany is a mystery. This case is a prime example of multiple governments collaborating in support of censorship." Reader iter8 provides a link to coverage on Wikileaks itself, which says that police searched Reppe's homes in both Dresden and Jena, and adds:
"According to police, the reason for the search was 'distribution of pornographic material' and 'discovery of evidence.' Wikileaks has published censorship lists for Australia, Thailand, Denmark and other countries. Included on the lists are references to sites alleged to contain pornography, including child pornography. Wikileaks has not published any images from the sites."
His house was raided by the cops because he was listed as the registrant for the domain wikileaks.de? Is that what passes for probable cause in the Fatherland?
WTF?
The BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst ~ foreign new service) ie German CIA are still upset over its secret agents getting exposed in a black flag operation in Kosovo.
T-Systems (Deutsche Telekom) was exposed revealing over two dozen secret IP address ranges used by the BND.
The email of a top BND official might have also been listed.
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Bundesnachrichtendienst&fulltext=Search should give slashdot readers some idea as to why Germany is so active around wikileaks.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
To us, it looks like a game of whack-a-mole. To the authorities, however, it may look like a hydra, and I worry that they might start acting like it. If they haven't already.
Athy, athier, athiest.
Apparently the German's have something they want to hide. Power to the people.
Smart move, raiding the home of a person involved in a website devoted to leaking crappy behavior by companies and governments. Even smarter citing wishy-washy reasons for doing so. Real smart.
Silly rabbit
I've hardly stopped being ashamed for being American and already I am becoming ashamed for being German again.
More seriously, what the fuck did the police think they're doing? They are persecuting people for exposing censorship.
I hope that Wikileaks makes a noise and stirs up a shit-storm, so that people get fired and sued out of their pants for this. If we don't nip fascism in the bud we'll end up right back in the "good old days".
And all safely bookmarked and backed up.
Thanks, wikileaks!
signed,
a
fan
I would have thought the very first post would have been Godwin-ed. Many posts so far and still no mention of Nazis -- and for once it's probably appropriate to mention them here.
What happened to the whole "Conroy: Go after our source and we'll go for you" thing?
Was their bluff called?
I have to ask because i don't know. If some secret document from the CIA was leaked onto wikileaks, how quick and how hard would the CIA ask for a retraction ? Do we know ? Did this happen ?
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... however, the German government wants to keep the site down. According to their twitter page, ...
The German government has a twitter page? ;-)
Additive identity, multiplicative cancellation, distributive multiplication over addition: pick any two (unless 1 = 0)
... the wikileaks you are looking at is the same wikileaks that was there when that information was published, eh ?
Scary, I know...
and you are on the wrong site.
Read radical news here
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Keep up the good work, wikileaks. Somebody's got to.
Oh, you mean those same websites that could easily be found through Google, Yahoo, Live Search and countless others?
OH SHHNAP, LETS RAID THEM TOO!
Oh wait, that's right, the police only ever pick on the small guys they know they have power over.
EDITORIAL (Wikileaks)
Shortly after 9pm on Tuesday the 24th of March 2009, seven police officers in Dresden and four in Jena searched the homes of Theodor Reppe, who holds the domain registration for "wikileaks.de", the German name for wikileaks.org. According to police documentation, the reason for the search was "distribution of pornographic material" and "discovery of evidence". Police claim the raid was initiated due to Mr. Reppe's position as the Wikileaks.de domain owner.
Police did not want to give any further information to Mr. Reppe and no contact was made with Wikileaks before or after the search. It is therefore not totally clear why the search was made, however Wikileaks, in its role as a defender of press freedoms, has published censorship lists for Australia, Thailand, Denmark and other countries. Included on the lists are references to sites containing pornography and no other material has been released by Wikileaks relating to the subject.
Some details of the search raise questions:
* Wikileaks was not contacted before the search, despite Wikileaks having at least two journalists which are recognized members of the German Press Association (Deutscher Presse Verband).
* The time of at least 11 police detectives was wasted conducting a futile raid on the private home of volunteer assistant to a media organization.
* Police asked for the passwords to the "wikileaks.de" domain and for the entire domain to be disabled.
* Mr Reppe was not informed of his rights; police documentation clearly shows that box to be left unchecked.
* Contrary to what is stated in the police protocol, Mr. Reppe did not agree to "not having a witness" present.
Ultimately, Mr Reppe refused to sign the police documentation due to its inaccuracies.
The raid appears to be related to a recent German social hysteria around child pornography and the controversial battle for a national censorship system by the German family minister Ursula von der Leyen. It comes just a few weeks after a member of parliament, SPD minister Joerg Tauss had his office and private house searched by police. German bloggers discussing the subject were similarly raided.
Mr. Reppe sponsors the Wikileaks German domain registration and mirrors a collection of Wikileaks US Congressional Research Service reports but is not otherwise operationally involved. Mr Reppe is also maintainer of one of the most popular German Tor-proxy servers (morphium.info) but only the connection to Wikileaks was mentioned during the raid.
Wikileaks.de and other Wikileaks domains were unaffected by the raid.
Wikileaks is a non-profit project, sponsored by transparency groups and investigative journalists world wide. To support our defense of this and other cases, see http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks
Don't they realise that the national wikileaks sites are mirror sites, the guy has nothing to do with the content!
Sure, I'll probably go on a government watch list, but the way things are going we either all already are or soon will be, so why should that be a discouragement?
Because the list is probably numbered, graded and color-coded?
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
If this looks like the first case of international collaboration over a wikileaks takedown, it could be a sign of things to come.
Wikileaks relies on the fact that, although they piss countries off, they never piss of a lot of countries at once. As such a takedown in one country means little because of its distribution.
However what would happen if something really major got posted on Wikileaks, something that a government would need to go all out to remove. Say someone posted a list identifying all CIA agents. Would the US government make its allies act to take down wiki leaks presence in each of their country? Would they get ICANN involved and order them to wipe all of its urls off the web? Even block all wikileak IPs at a root server level?
The second a website like Wikileaks which tries to evade potential countermeasures becomes a nuisence to enough people, there'll be plans (if they don't already exist, it's hard to see intelligence agencies not having thought about it) drawn up about how you'd go about wiping a site from the internet. If this does happen, it'll have dire consequences about the future of the net.
The should be some use for outcast and semi-kind-of-outcast regimes.
This is what happens when a bunch of drunken retards run the one world government. The first strike against them was letting junior run the government for eight years too many. The second strike was when they forgot to pay Diebold that lump sum before the last election. They can't even keep simple drug smuggling and money laundering under wraps any more. Those damn n00bs couldn't remember to put back a simple hidden attribute back on that super secret text file with the internet list. And now they can't even nab back the contraband without the suspected terrrrrr-orists knowing what items they took? What good now are the super triple dog secret overlords?
Bullshit. Behavior is taught, modeled, and learned from those around you.
If there aren't nazis left over there there would be no reason for this. This is the definition of Nazi behavior.
"Today, German stormtroopers broke down the door to the house of a well-known website owner. The charges were thinking about possibly having something to do with considering looking at a list of websites posted to his server by someone else with no intervention from himself. There will be no further information, and no further questions. UNDERSTAND?"
They posted it to ISPs.
And how many governments leak information? ALL OF THEM.
So the AUS government is guilty of distribution of KP links too.
German police to raid Australia in 3, 2, 1...
the "You're-A-Pee-On" Union...
Anymore questions?
By that logic, simply mirroring a child porn site would be okay?
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
Don't they realize that the more they tighten their grip the more web systems will slip through their fingers?
It's almost like you can see the rebellious side winning this one from the start.
> Organizations like the CIA tend to do things like find out information
> to help save lives.
Organizations like the CIA tend to do whatever the US government wants them to do. This may include trying to save lives (but, most probably that would be in actuality, lives of citizens of the US and, to some extent, its allies), but it most likely also includes things like toppling foreign governments which the US dislikes, irrespective if this would likely make Americans safer. It is really not clear, and actually rather unlikely, that the CIA is able to accurately predict the consequences of its present-day actions on the future safety of US. Kind of like what happened with the banking system.
The reality, if you would take off your glasses, is that as long as everything the CIA really does is kept secret from you, you have no idea whatsoever if what they do is actually what you believe they do. After living for a while in an Internet-enabled world, I, for one, become less and less willing to blindly believe whatever the US government tells me "the CIA is doing for me".
Somebody please mod this down as a troll, I have no points.
It's so easy even I noticed it, and I've been described by people I know as "dense as a bag of rocks."
It is by my will alone my thoughts acquire motion; it is by the juice of the coffee bean that the thoughts acquire speed
they're working together on consolidating their power over their citizens by using proxies.
Given the contents of those lists, be careful to keep them encrypted and without obvious names linking them to the original files (e.g., first pack them up in an archive with other random files to thwart attempts to match file sizes or other meta-information).
Personally, I wouldn't go near those lists, even if they do contain non-child-porn sites which might be interesting to find. I'm sure that even if I tried to filter out the real child-porn sites using cross-validation, I'd still end up with a lot of more-disgusting-than-goatse stuff which I wouldn't want to wade through.
Steven Conroy will be appearing on a public forum broadcast live on Australian TV on Thursday, March 26, 2009 at 10:30:00 UTC (9:30pm AEST). Questions for this forum can be posted at http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/
My post wasn't a troll, but people like you are why I firmly believe most people should NOT be mods. You disagree with me so your desire is to mod it troll. Maybe, just maybe I disagree with you. Actually considering you brought no value to the conversation I would wager you are the troll.
I do not support "The Man". I also do not support your irrational stupidity
First of all , i do not believe this story is what it says it is, first off, in today's age of technology and persecution, pedophiles have accepted encryption as a norm , of which any content distributed would not be out in the open as they would have you believe.
Also, hiding behind the premise of "we could show you, but that would incriminate you" is a scam to stem fear into those who would question such tactics. I for one know there is a small margin that is offered in such cases where R&D is needed for that field, and for developing new ways to track if not capture such "types".
Lastly, if we were to hear that the same website also posted personal data or email addresses of government officials or ambassadors to the sited nation, whether in error or not, and then decided not to retract the information posted after being asked nicely, would constitute a good indication of why this cover story is being used.
my 3 cents
There would seem to be a concerted effort across the globe to tighten control of information that gets out to the public. Jay Rockefeller trying to take down the existing(free) version of the internet is another example. One of the many sources of information out there that the "establishment" is concerned about is the Alex Jones Show (or infowars.com) Inform yourself, we are coming to an important time in history where those in power(our so-called leaders) are moving to a global government that has been planned for many years(i am not against global government per-say but i AM against one lead by the current corrupt pricks in power). Also something of interest: The Movie - The Obama Deception One other thing: I Want You to get MAD!!
~ awaiting spiritual enlightenment ~
There are many, mini-Obama's running around Chicago. We met a bunch of them. They were full of Obamisms; they all had met or interviewed him to hear them tell; and they all claim him as their savior. (They are of this mind concerning him: Matthew 9:21: "For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole." Awkward!)
We flew to Chicago to picket the foreign embassies of Brazil, the Netherlands, and India, then the University of Chicago, the Chicago Theological Seminary, and the University of Chicago Law School. We happy six went to glorify God in proclaiming his truth and righteousness and in hope of that crown of righteousness, which is laid up for us, which shall by the Lord, the righteous Judge, be given us at that day: and not to us only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. (2 Timothy 4:8). Is there a single Chicagoan that shall love his appearing? Not a chance.
They will cry out in horror for the rocks and hills to fall upon them and hide them from the face of Lamb that sits enthroned for the purpose of executing judgment upon them, in hopes that they will be hidden from His wrath. (Revelation 6:16). Yo, listen up dummies! Read a little Richard Baxter, 1615-1691, and learn some things. He points out the obvious. The Lord God of eternity, who while on earth commanded the winds and the waves, and they obeyed his voice (Matthew 8:26), certainly is in full control of the rocks and the mountains. Indeed, "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision." (Psalms 2:4).
Part of the prologue to the Westboro Baptist Church saints' everlasting rest ("There remaineth, therefore, a rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4:9) is the public and solemn process at the judgment of the Chicagoans c. 2009, where they shall first themselves be acquitted and justified, and then with Christ judge these Chicagoans. Young and old, of all socioeconomic classes and races, that ever were from the creation to that day including Chicagoans, must here come and receive their doom.
"O terrible! O joyful day! Terrible to those that have forgotten the coming of their Lord! joyful to the saints [at Westboro Baptist Church], whose waiting and hope was to see this day! Then shall the world behold the goodness and severity of God; on them who perish, severity; but to his chosen, goodness. Every one must give an account of his stewardship. Every talent of time, health, abilities, mercies, afflictions, means, warnings, must be reckoned for. The sins of youth, those which they had forgotten, and their secret sins, shall all be laid open before angels and men. They shall see the Lord Jesus, whom they neglected, whose word they disobeyed, whose ministers they abused, whose servants they hated, now sitting to judge them. Their own consciences shall cry out against them, and call to their remembrance all their misdoings. Which way will the wretched sinner look? Who can conceive the terrible thoughts of his heart? Now the world cannot help him; his old companions cannot; the saints neither can nor will. Only the Lord Jesus can; but there is the misery, he will not. ⦠All in vain is it to "cry to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth upon the throne;" for thou hast the Lord of mountains and rocks for thine enemy, whose voice they will obey, and not thine. I charge thee, therefore, before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing, and his kingdom, that thou set thyself seriously to ponder these things." (Richard Baxter's, The Saints Everlasting Rest, Page 47-48, Published by Samuel T. Armstrong, Charlestown, Mass., 1811.)
But they will not ponder these things, like zombies they roam the streets of Chicago awaiting the general judgment and their doom. When we arrive on their streets to show them the everlasting Gospel on signs (God Hates Fags, American is Doomed, and Obama is the Beast/Antichrist), and to expound to them these truths in word and
the reason for the search was 'distribution of pornographic material' and 'discovery of evidence.
So they searched his house to find evidence and give him porn?
First they march you through several hundered of miles of jungle without water, then they shoot you, then they disembowel you, then you lose.
-- Gandhi, had the Japs won WW2
> but realize secrets are needed because our enemies have no qualms
> about using secrets
I daresay that any information which has hit Wikileaks is 99.9% likely to previously already be known to any intelligence agencies which would be interested in it. All Wikileaks is doing is letting us see it also. Security through obscurity is usually bad security.
> or using our knowledge against us.
So it's good that we remain as uninformed as possible? Yes, I understand that you probably didn't mean it that way. Just couldn't resist.
There is a fine balance which needs to be maintained between secrecy which protects the public interest and secrecy which is against the public interest. It's not clear to me that this raid, or rather, having secret Internet censorship lists, falls in the "protects the public interest" side. Even if I think people producing, selling, or distributing child pornography should have their own special corner in a Hell which I don't even believe in.
I say let there be this 'International Currency'. Guess what? I bet people still use the dollar. People can keep a basket of international currencies in their portfolio without having a 'basket currency'. People can buy things with whatever currency they feel like spending by first exchanging that currency for the one the item is being sold for. And 'International Currency' will just not be adopted because there will be no compelling reason to do so.
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That's it. NO PORN FOR YOU!!!
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I'm sorry, but just... no.
You post that "you're not sure what they are posting on their site," even though it says it right in the summary. You make sure and state that you "don't know," because if you did read the summary, you wouldn't be here applauding these actions.
Then you come out and talk about how it's great that "countries are working together to fight crime," even though that has absolutely no bearing on what this story is about.
Conclusion, you're a troll.
It is by my will alone my thoughts acquire motion; it is by the juice of the coffee bean that the thoughts acquire speed
Ignorance and apathy are the two more dangerous diseases of our time, and very difficult to cure. Take the Red pill.
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Summary makes it sound like the government uses Twitter.
How can you get in trouble for linking to a site that is on the "bad" list, if you aren't allowed to know what is actually on the "bad" list? I know I must be missing something. Will they actually fine people for linking to a site that is secretly on the "bad" list? What would stop them from fining anyone they wanted for linking to any random thing if there is no list for the link-er to consult ahead of time? Do they assume that what is on the "bad" list is so obviously illegal that anyone that links to it deserves what they get? Are they just afraid people will use the "bad" list as a salacious index to the best of the worst of the internet?
But there you go, 25 EUR sent on their way.
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Just watched an interview on TV with some guy who is representating interests of (some) ISPs in germany. He actually referred to the leaked Australian censorship list and how it was used to block sites that were not cp. He also mentioned that they are already forced (not by law, but somehow else) by government to block access to certain sites and how they are already breaking laws by doing so.
The interviewer didn't react to these statements at all - I mean, c'mon, he just said (some) ISPs in germany break the law many times because government wants them to - but just went on with some stupid questions about how germany still hasn't such censorship laws although they work so flawlessly in other countries
That's sickening.
From the summary " According to their twitter page, police have raided the home of Wikileaks.de domain owner ...."
I can just see it. "Arresting transsexual prostitute on 5th St." and "Eating a free jelly filled donut"
I read Slashdot for the headlines, because the headlines, unlike the articles, are usually original and never duplicated
That's not a bad idea: move it to a country where we already know about the human rights abuses!
Nick
If you had something to say, you would say it with a name, not anonymously. Obviously you either lack the balls, or are frightened of people who think your a raving lunatic being able to ignore you, as they should be able to. Either that or your paranoid delusions have grown to the point where you really think that "they" (they of course being people of differing opinion, i.e. the conspiracy) will come and get you for coughing up your own personal version of the "truth".
Personally the fourth option is the most viable, your a stupid troll. Meaning your probably some form of teenager, probably socially maligned by your peer group, probably in ill physical shape, and probably lashing out under the cover of anonymity since you lack the ability to do so in real life. In other words, a genuinely pathetic individual.
I'm not even sure if you have a valid point, since I still haven't bothered to read a single of your bizarre rants, since they are not presented in a way that grants a single shred of credibility. You sound like a schizophrenic hobo, thus the only accord you deserve is perhaps a pitiable glance, and some beer money. You have no valid sources, and your just quoting right wing talk-show conspiracy theories, none of it is new, most of it is long refuted or disproven, and most of it is lazy ad-hoc justification for being firmly trompted in a popular election by people who are completely sick of your backwards, harmful, political ideologies which are based on nothing more than shallow theories, and personal feelings of petty greed and Ayn Randian idiocy. Oh, and a large helping of "Sky Daddy says so".
Good for you. Now go shut up and let the adults talk. /. really needs to get rid of open "AC" access, its getting annoying. Keep the AC action, but force registration to use it, so I can block these "copypasta" morons. Since the death of goatse, and the advent of overly political rantings, they've lost their amusement value.
Oh, and I hear that Obama and HITLER have been having dinner together a lot lately? Any thoughts?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
Translation:
"I don't like what you have to say, so I would rather see your viewpoint censored rather than attempt to debate it on its merits."
> If we had more of that we would have less people criticising their government fleeing to other countries. Meaning Ghandi independence-speaker who was born in in India speaks and then flees to Pakistan, immune from prosecution. So good for germany working with Australia.
oops.
There, fixed it for you.
"governments work together" means "governments' politicians collude together to further their private agendas (money, power) on the expense of the people".
The police, maybe? okay. But _governments_? Want a huge clusterfuck of all nations, a "brotherhood of man"? At least I don't, thank you very much.
Viewpoint I don't like: "I don't care if governments are abusing their power, England must prevail."
Obvious troll: "I don't know what's going on, and I haven't read the article, but I'm sure that these governments are doing what's right."
See the difference?
No, of course you don't -- what am I wasting my time for...
It is by my will alone my thoughts acquire motion; it is by the juice of the coffee bean that the thoughts acquire speed
It sounds like Germany has taken a page out of the history books about the old Nazi/Gestapo/SS days. Of course, this time it isn't just Germany, but the whole world that's playing the censorship game. The world's governments are fucking hypocrites for allowing this to happen the fucking corrupt bastards!
Because I'm quite sure it was intended as Funny.
(In case it wasn't... 1) Public education isn't the same as indoctrination, and experience taught us that without it you end up back in the stone age within a generation. 2) Living in a country with social security (and at various times both having paid for it and being supported by it) I can say that social security is a very liberating thing, because it shields you from the costly random events that would enslave you otherwise. 3) I drive a bicycle. I still need roads. 4) The government isn't alone. MAFIAA anyone? Net neutrality? The private sector wants to screw over the Internet just as badly, and at least the government can be voted out of office and replaced.
Oh, and why the addition of 'western' in that post? Is say China particularly western? Turkey? Iran? Western governments may not do a terrific job, but compared to non-western goverments they're doing quite allright.)
Don't get me wrong, I see the merit of posting anonymously, and the need for it to be an option, but what really pisses me off is the trolling. There's a difference between free speech and the bullshit we always see within the first three posts. It's enough to make me give up moderation and browse at +4 (is +4 even an option?). I normally browse at -1 so I can mod people up when they've been unfairly modded down, but there's been an explosion in trolling lately, and it's getting impossible to sift the good comments from the bad. Look at the majority of the replies to the comment I'm replying to. It's a fair bet they're all by one or two different people. Can't we IP-ban repeat offenders? Sometimes it's not obvious what's a troll and what's unpopular, but when you see the same shit pasted into post after post after post, I'd say it's likely that's a troll.
Admit it. You post strawman arguments as AC so you get modded Insightful for refuting them, rather than Troll
twittering... it's what parliaments are good at.
The page I viewed this morning had this mornings date on it.
The current page is what was up 5 days ago, the 20th of march.
All information about the search warrent, etc. , since it had not happened on yet, on the 20th, is now absent from the main page.
So is this site (which links to the list of sites which include child porn) also distributing child porn under that same logic? If we go to Wikileaks are we then also breaking the law? How do we verify the sites on the list are legitimate to be censored without looking at the list? It seems to me that by making the list the government itself is also 'storing' child porn. It is a catch 22. Also, if the German government knew about the list and had seen it or possessed it then aren't they also storing child porn too? I don't see how anyone can get around this obvious contradiction.
The Germans, like many other NATO members, apparently don't take their alliance commitments seriously. As an American I find it extremely disappointing that we've staked our blood and treasure on defending the freedom of our NATO Allies for generations and many of them can't even be bothered to send troops without caveats to Afghanistan. You do recall where Article 5 was invoked right?
Apparently the NATO alliance is a one way street. Thanks Europe.
Afghanistan isn't a member of NATO, and the USA is not being directly attacked by Afghanistan, If anything it was Saudi Arabia which launched the attack.
And in any event there is no immediate threat to the US.
(and since Germany was the aggressor in the second world war they can hardly be said to owe the US for their intervention in that instance.)
http://michaelsmith.id.au
I'm seriously considering printing and laminating copies of those fear posters to use here in New Zealand. First I'll put the rubbish-fear poster on the side of my council wheelie bin.
Then I'll splash the fear-CCTV-watchers poster somewhere prominent in town (I gather there are 30 CCTV in Cathedral Square alone).
I'm more tempted than ever to add a reassuring poster to any traffic counter I see. "ATTENTION, VISITING BOSTONITES: This is not a roadside bomb. It is not even a Mooninite. It is a traffic counter. DO NOT BE AFRAID!"
I expect people to fall over in the streets laughing when they realise that the posters are more than mere derivatives of the propaganda posters in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.
Blancmange
There are a number of congruencies between this and the 1995 raids by Scientology...see Alt.Scientology.War cover story in Wired Magazine December 1995.
In 1995 an anonymous remailer in Amsterdam called anon.penit.fi run by Johan Helsingus was visited by police, who sought the the logs, using an excuse (cover story, shore story, suitable guise) that there was pornography involved...
Johan's remailer had been used backthen, for posting Scientology secret rubbish to the net...by a nickname "scamizdat" which turned out to be an ex-scientologist named Joe Harrington... who admitted this on his death bed.
I believe that complaints about the porno turned out have come from scientology...
I just got raided and sued by the scientologists for posting the XENU story, that you guys watched on South Park a while ago..
Wikileaks has been recently publishing thousands of pages of scientology secrets and internal memorandums...
Perhaps history is repeating itself?
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind that live fearing to speake The Internet is the liberty tree
Why doesn't someone do something useful with their programming expertise and deliver the real news straight to people's boxes?
How difficult would it be to set a million people's homepages to a news article, and make the public aware of what's going on?
If people are going to get viruses anyway, can't we make them useful?
...and thougth pretty much of these sites really have very "hot" material, some sites are just laugh (to be in THIS list), 2girls1cup for example
A pachyderm is an elephant...
And.
Wow. Not a single word of that was your own. What wasn't taken from the Bible was taken from Bible-thumpers who fed it to you. You are a dittohead. Utterly mindless. Stop wasting air and die.
Beautiful! I'll do that!
Blancmange