Bye by Nintendo might as generate some fear on your long slide to irrelevence.
Not very surprising from a company that disingeniously standardized on expensive cartridges instead of 50 cent CD's.
Nintendo engineers truly come up with some good stuff... just that their management needs to keep their fingers out of it some. Even the SNES was a marginal success because of the limited selection of games... and they have a history of announcing vaporware, Microsoft-style, to stifle the current market until Nintendo get's its act in gear with the next generation of wuss games. Blech.
This is proof of why people prefer computers. They don't get it...
Using a RAMdisk *strictly* for application and system temporary files. Like for the print spooler if it uses disk space, or other files not created by the user and which should if the app doesn't forget, be deleted.
Ever open a Word document with graphics and linked objects? It creates a ton of tmp files and they're not always deleted when you exit. Another example is WinZIP, which for SOME reason will still use your TEMP space even if you open zips on a system with lots of memory. If you have 1.5 GB RAM I don't see why a compression utility should use the hard disk as scratch space.
I have never used the software, but there is some sort of command line shell available from Apple, primarily intended for development.
I like a shell, and I also like a GUI. I also dislike Microsoft which has nothing to do with my appreciation of the good things Apple comes up with. It's sweet indeed that Apple is moving the OS onto a UNIX base.
It would be sweet if Apple did this migration at the same time they moved onto PowerPC from 68k. Oh well, probably would have been too much at once.
This is going to bring a LOT of people into the UNIX world - it doesn't matter if they know it or not. There will be a lot of cross-polination of OSX and Linux software. Free/Open software is great, but I'm sure a lot of Linux users would kill for Electric Image 3D and Adobe Illustrator/PhotoShop/Premiere. Yes yes GIMP seems cool... (shields up).
Anything but Microsoft?? Try EVERYONE but Microsoft!
RAMdisks used to be popular in the pre-Windoze days. Is there a technical reason you don't hear much about them now?
I understand the basic issue you don't want to take memory away from cache and the os/application space... my question assumes the computer has enough memory to operate correctly, and the reason you even want a RAMdisk is because many applications -always- create.tmp files on the disk regardless of how much memory is available and unused.
Why the hell is it that absolutely none of this is being covered on CNN? It's plainly obvious why MSNBC would not cover it since they are a part of Microsoft and have no credibility, but I would expect some media coverage outsite of the NY Times Slashdot, and C-Net news.com!
Would it have ANYTHING to do with the ramped-up advertising campaign Microsoft is pushing? These ads don't even promote a product - just that fake feely-good kiss-the-black-baby for the TV bullshit we expect from Congressional campaigns. They are literally dumping so much money on the media that the media resist covering one of the biggest antitrust trials of the decade if not the century.
Microsoft has so many penetration points in all these industries.. I really wonder what will happen to the US and/or world enconomy once Microsoft is inevitably slam-dunked (either by US DOJ or by Linux). Never mind the USDOJ trial there is the estimated $600 billion Y2K expense the world faces... a "sizable" share of which can be laid RIGHT at the feet of Microsoft, who at first told us the only way to be Y2k compliant was to get NT5/NT2000... but now that NT2000 will be released AFTER Y2K because it's still too buggy... they tell us we need NT4 Service Pack 4. Ugh.
The DOJ trial is just daily amusement. The real killer will either be when more games ship for Linux (YES!), or these Fortune 500 companies band together and hand Microsoft the portion of their Y2K expenses for which Microsoft is responsible for.
It's a preference thing. WHen you are REALLY trying to improve your beer skills, you should try to brew the "same" recipie more than one batch. You need to take notes... how did you start the yeast - was it dry, smackpack, reused.. and pitching temperature, boil times, when you dropped in the hops, etc. How did it taste after 3 weeks? 3 months? You can't realistically compare 3 month old beer from batch A against 3 week beer from batch B, without at least notes on what A tasted like at 3 weeks (and later, what B did at 3 months). If you brew with grain, as I want to start doing, your notetaking requirements really go up.
I haven't even mentioned the obvious feature.. of keeping everything in a database.
OTOH a paper journal WILL do this job nicely... I personally prefer a computer to sort everything out and link against recipies, etc.
I love this place, and would love have an "@slashdot.org" address, if that's possible.
Obligatory kissup: I remember engaging in countless discussion threads on Nite Lite BBS's, before all of that faded away 10 years ago. This is the ONLY website I have seen that recreates that "BBS" feeling. It even has a "busy signal" almost... well, there's times when you have long waits to get through even on a LAN connection at work..
Oh, PPP works for me now! I tossed my 28.8 USR internal (NOT a Winmodem but still wouldn't work) and got a USR 56k external. Works great under RH 5.2, except it connects as soon as I log in and not 'dial on demand'. But hey, at least now I can troubleshoot while IN LINUX instead of running that ghastly Windows program..
A coworker wrote these as Java applets..
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I was passing this URL around at work, and it turns out one of my coworkers was into this a long time ago, and turned them into Java applets... The Explore Adventure Series
What about Magnetic Scrolls games? (the Pawn) :)
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Forgetting the legality (?) for a moment... I'd love to see web-based versions of the text adventures that had pictures, like Magnetic Scroll's The Pawn....
I just wanted to say thanks for setting this up. I still had ways to peek at these games.. my Atari 1200XL might still work and the Atari 520ST definately does, but this method of preserving these games is far better.
Real software that doesn't care what OS the server or client runs on. Microsoft should be scared..:)
My suggestion is to remove the non-Zork ones if you don't have permission from Activision. They still sell these others if you can find the collection CD's.
OTOH, I understand there were a lot of free games based on this interpreter...
This means much more than a nice X server with hardware assist, or even hardware supported OpenGL support... think in terms of fibre channel drive support on par with their NT and Irix offerings.
Native support for D1, lossless 720x480 video editing anyone. WOW... Bill gates must be in a freaking RAGE right now. After knocking the stuffing out of SGI with FUD storms, SGI takes Microsoft's help in building an NT box... and promptly offers support for Linux. This is not just another vendor (not to disrespect HP)... this is HUGE!
IP theft cannot be proven if it did not take place. Also, Be is not this little kid with no protection... they have Intel propping them up quite nicely.
At most, this is only an undocumented chipset, if you believe Be's excuse - I don't. Reverse engineering if done correctly IS legal, so it's a question of does Intel want THEIR investment going towards keeping this OS running on competing CPU's? This is the core of the issue...
And yes, if Be were OSS it *would* run on G3's. The volunteer project for Linux on PowerPC does quite nicely, and they don't have Intel bankrolling them...
Everyone knows the best vehicle is a boat with wings, wheels, and a bore/drill at the nose so you can shortcut through large mountains. You can do EVERYTHING with this vehicle..
Sound familiar? Microsoft also claims NT does everything... (it does, just not very well)
If BeOS were open sourced, there would be NO "issues" running on G3 chipsets. Considering just how much be has benefited from the open source community, this is not an unreasonable demand either.
Instead, there is childish finger pointing and personality conflicts at the highest levels. be blames Apple; Apple pretends not to know Be exists since Be competes with Apple's UNIX-based System X.
The point is, this is a top-down decision that can't have made a lot of Be users happy. Intel can't be more pleased since Be users are forced to migrate to Intel - a few might but I doubt most will. If Be REALLY wanted to "make it work", they would. They aren't too proud to borrow from the OSS community either:-/
However Be isn't even COUNTING how many G3 owners would like BeOS. A company that is so ignorant as to choose ignore collecting marketing data rather than at least basing a decision on it... just to serve their new masters at Intel
Where will Be be at in 2 years? They'll stay solvent with Intel funding, but given their treatment of PowerPC it's obvious they've inherited the corporate Intel way of thinking. So why should the OSS community help them with anything? That and the fact that Linux has passed Be on most fronts...
(Be do have an easier instal/setup utility though.. )
Microsoft was supposedly working on this fairly secure "fingerprint" technology, where it stored the IDENTITY of whoever read the document, hidden in the document. Probably spoofable, but it would give clues to who was reading documents, either in Word or in IE.
This was being designed for the leaders who run the corporation known as CHINA. Ugh.
And before you think something like that oculd never happen here, two words for you: "piracy" and "anti-terrorism". -Scott
PS - Makes a great companion technology to digital paper too!:D
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Now THAT's a challenge!
Remember those indestructable keyboards from Atari 400's and Sinclairs...
That's very exculsionary opinion, don't you think? Remember most people consider the windows manager to BE the OS!
I personally (MHO!!) think it is a noble goal for Unix to replace Windows entirely. It can be all things for all people, with the right installers and config tools. For example a server does not need (nor should it have) a window manager, at all.
Someday we'll all look back at the fall of Microsoft and chuckle at how the world came so close to being truly "dominated".
SuSE looked real nice, but has some bugs that have made things difficult for me to switch completely from Windows. SuSE does seem easier and has more bundled applications than RH 5.0. Troll Repellent: Just my _opinion_...
Since I/SuSE haven't yet got PPP to work, and X Windows is unreliable (it only works until I reboot), I'm going to give RH 5.2 a shot tonight. ... To expand on the SUSE bugs, YaST will hang the system if you are installing to a hard drive which has extra space not assigned to any partition... something that is not hard to do if you want a DOS partition also.
The other SuSE problem was X appears to work fine, but once I reboot out into Windows and then back X will fail to load (some connection error). Since this is my only working system I might as well give it a shot with RH 5.2 and download the extras later..
But I would give SuSE 6.0 another shot. Aside from the install bug, which I got around, it seems from my newbie position to be a VERY GOOD distribution, esp. for a home user (even includes the old computer/console emulators). RH is a bit more conservative, but if 5.2 gives me less throuble then it is what I will use, for now...
You might be able to do this with Apple -- they DO sell hardware with Linux installed.
Your real question is do you get a discount ordering "without OS"? I don't know the answer to that, but you can pursue it if you want. Apple did that "Customer Focus" thing on the Linux/Apache webserver running on their G3.
Yes, before some rude AC points it out this is not "without an OS". But it may be "without being charged for an OS". Check with the Education store, or someone at a school's admin department may have a real human Sales rep at Apple you can call..
Is there any way to tell "which" license an OEM uses in advance?
The license language could change vendor to vendor, and it would be nice to know which ones were this flexable.
I know you can order Linux systems from companies like VA, iDot (by special email ammending of order) and others, but if the license says you open the UPS container you agree to the license, you're $#|+ out of luck...
The OEM gets stiffed by MS on this one too: every Win95 license I have seen specifically says "licensed for THIS computer", meaning the license is not reusable when returned. That, and if you buy a new OS-less computer later on, you can't legally install it on the new machine -- even if you delete the old installation or physically move the old hard drive into the new system.
OK, I see what you mean now. Hope I didn't come off too defensive - I try not to.
I loath both Mac and Linux "elitist advocates"... be it MacKido or AC trollers.
I can't live just on Linux.. I want to... but it doesn't have the apps and games I use; I need either a Mac or Windows for that stuff, and I'm trying to be Microsoft free as soon as possible.
I really hate PC hardware. You wouldn't happen to know where I can find a how-to on installing Linux + Windows on a large hard drive (17.2 GB total but the BIOS only sees 8.4)? Between that, SuSE 5.3's YAST bugs and Microsoft DOS 6.2 FDISK bugs I have lost 10 hours this week:-/
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Bye by Nintendo might as generate some fear on your long slide to irrelevence.
Not very surprising from a company that disingeniously standardized on expensive cartridges instead of 50 cent CD's.
Nintendo engineers truly come up with some good stuff... just that their management needs to keep their fingers out of it some. Even the SNES was a marginal success because of the limited selection of games... and they have a history of announcing vaporware, Microsoft-style, to stifle the current market until Nintendo get's its act in gear with the next generation of wuss games. Blech.
This is proof of why people prefer computers. They don't get it...
Using a RAMdisk *strictly* for application and system temporary files. Like for the print spooler if it uses disk space, or other files not created by the user and which should if the app doesn't forget, be deleted.
Ever open a Word document with graphics and linked objects? It creates a ton of tmp files and they're not always deleted when you exit. Another example is WinZIP, which for SOME reason will still use your TEMP space even if you open zips on a system with lots of memory. If you have 1.5 GB RAM I don't see why a compression utility should use the hard disk as scratch space.
I have never used the software, but there is some sort of command line shell available from Apple, primarily intended for development.
I like a shell, and I also like a GUI. I also dislike Microsoft which has nothing to do with my appreciation of the good things Apple comes up with. It's sweet indeed that Apple is moving the OS onto a UNIX base.
It would be sweet if Apple did this migration at the same time they moved onto PowerPC from 68k. Oh well, probably would have been too much at once.
This is going to bring a LOT of people into the UNIX world - it doesn't matter if they know it or not. There will be a lot of cross-polination of OSX and Linux software. Free/Open software is great, but I'm sure a lot of Linux users would kill for Electric Image 3D and Adobe Illustrator/PhotoShop/Premiere. Yes yes GIMP seems cool... (shields up).
Anything but Microsoft?? Try EVERYONE but Microsoft!
RAMdisks used to be popular in the pre-Windoze days. Is there a technical reason you don't hear much about them now?
.tmp files on the disk regardless of how much memory is available and unused.
I understand the basic issue you don't want to take memory away from cache and the os/application space... my question assumes the computer has enough memory to operate correctly, and the reason you even want a RAMdisk is because many applications -always- create
Why the hell is it that absolutely none of this is being covered on CNN? It's plainly obvious why MSNBC would not cover it since they are a part of Microsoft and have no credibility, but I would expect some media coverage outsite of the NY Times Slashdot, and C-Net news.com!
:-D
Would it have ANYTHING to do with the ramped-up advertising campaign Microsoft is pushing? These ads don't even promote a product - just that fake feely-good kiss-the-black-baby for the TV bullshit we expect from Congressional campaigns. They are literally dumping so much money on the media that the media resist covering one of the biggest antitrust trials of the decade if not the century.
Microsoft has so many penetration points in all these industries.. I really wonder what will happen to the US and/or world enconomy once Microsoft is inevitably slam-dunked (either by US DOJ or by Linux). Never mind the USDOJ trial there is the estimated $600 billion Y2K expense the world faces... a "sizable" share of which can be laid RIGHT at the feet of Microsoft, who at first told us the only way to be Y2k compliant was to get NT5/NT2000... but now that NT2000 will be released AFTER Y2K because it's still too buggy... they tell us we need NT4 Service Pack 4. Ugh.
The DOJ trial is just daily amusement. The real killer will either be when more games ship for Linux (YES!), or these Fortune 500 companies band together and hand Microsoft the portion of their Y2K expenses for which Microsoft is responsible for.
... I'm goin' for a Guiness!
It's a preference thing. WHen you are REALLY trying to improve your beer skills, you should try to brew the "same" recipie more than one batch. You need to take notes... how did you start the yeast - was it dry, smackpack, reused.. and pitching temperature, boil times, when you dropped in the hops, etc. How did it taste after 3 weeks? 3 months? You can't realistically compare 3 month old beer from batch A against 3 week beer from batch B, without at least notes on what A tasted like at 3 weeks (and later, what B did at 3 months). If you brew with grain, as I want to start doing, your notetaking requirements really go up.
I haven't even mentioned the obvious feature.. of keeping everything in a database.
OTOH a paper journal WILL do this job nicely... I personally prefer a computer to sort everything out and link against recipies, etc.
I love this place, and would love have an "@slashdot.org" address, if that's possible.
Obligatory kissup:
I remember engaging in countless discussion threads on Nite Lite BBS's, before all of that faded away 10 years ago. This is the ONLY website I have seen that recreates that "BBS" feeling. It even has a "busy signal" almost... well, there's times when you have long waits to get through even on a LAN connection at work..
Oh, PPP works for me now! I tossed my 28.8 USR internal (NOT a Winmodem but still wouldn't work) and got a USR 56k external. Works great under RH 5.2, except it connects as soon as I log in and not 'dial on demand'. But hey, at least now I can troubleshoot while IN LINUX instead of running that ghastly Windows program..
I was passing this URL around at work, and it turns out one of my coworkers was into this a long time ago, and turned them into Java applets...
The Explore Adventure Series
Forgetting the legality (?) for a moment... I'd love to see web-based versions of the text adventures that had pictures, like Magnetic Scroll's The Pawn....
I just wanted to say thanks for setting this up. I still had ways to peek at these games.. my Atari 1200XL might still work and the Atari 520ST definately does, but this method of preserving these games is far better.
:)
Real software that doesn't care what OS the server or client runs on. Microsoft should be scared..
My suggestion is to remove the non-Zork ones if you don't have permission from Activision. They still sell these others if you can find the collection CD's.
OTOH, I understand there were a lot of free games based on this interpreter...
This means much more than a nice X server with hardware assist, or even hardware supported OpenGL support... think in terms of fibre channel drive support on par with their NT and Irix offerings.
Native support for D1, lossless 720x480 video editing anyone. WOW... Bill gates must be in a freaking RAGE right now. After knocking the stuffing out of SGI with FUD storms, SGI takes Microsoft's help in building an NT box... and promptly offers support for Linux. This is not just another vendor (not to disrespect HP)... this is HUGE!
"bologna"
IP theft cannot be proven if it did not take place. Also, Be is not this little kid with no protection... they have Intel propping them up quite nicely.
At most, this is only an undocumented chipset, if you believe Be's excuse - I don't. Reverse engineering if done correctly IS legal, so it's a question of does Intel want THEIR investment going towards keeping this OS running on competing CPU's? This is the core of the issue...
And yes, if Be were OSS it *would* run on G3's. The volunteer project for Linux on PowerPC does quite nicely, and they don't have Intel bankrolling them...
Ha!
Everyone knows the best vehicle is a boat with wings, wheels, and a bore/drill at the nose so you can shortcut through large mountains. You can do EVERYTHING with this vehicle..
Sound familiar? Microsoft also claims NT does everything... (it does, just not very well)
If BeOS were open sourced, there would be NO "issues" running on G3 chipsets. Considering just how much be has benefited from the open source community, this is not an unreasonable demand either.
:-/
Instead, there is childish finger pointing and personality conflicts at the highest levels. be blames Apple; Apple pretends not to know Be exists since Be competes with Apple's UNIX-based System X.
The point is, this is a top-down decision that can't have made a lot of Be users happy. Intel can't be more pleased since Be users are forced to migrate to Intel - a few might but I doubt most will. If Be REALLY wanted to "make it work", they would. They aren't too proud to borrow from the OSS community either
However Be isn't even COUNTING how many G3 owners would like BeOS. A company that is so ignorant as to choose ignore collecting marketing data rather than at least basing a decision on it... just to serve their new masters at Intel
Where will Be be at in 2 years? They'll stay solvent with Intel funding, but given their treatment of PowerPC it's obvious they've inherited the corporate Intel way of thinking. So why should the OSS community help them with anything? That and the fact that Linux has passed Be on most fronts...
(Be do have an easier instal/setup utility though.. )
AFAIK, Linux does support HFS...
sigh...
Microsoft was supposedly working on this fairly secure "fingerprint" technology, where it stored the IDENTITY of whoever read the document, hidden in the document. Probably spoofable, but it would give clues to who was reading documents, either in Word or in IE.
:D
This was being designed for the leaders who run the corporation known as CHINA. Ugh.
And before you think something like that oculd never happen here, two words for you: "piracy" and "anti-terrorism".
-Scott
PS - Makes a great companion technology to digital paper too!
Now THAT's a challenge!
Remember those indestructable keyboards from Atari 400's and Sinclairs...
Sigh... when OS's used Kb not Mb...
I agree. This might be bad news if Corel was REALLY doing poorly - they're not - so this can only means they're letting the kid grow up.
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Corel holding onto netWinder would not be best for the platform. Everyone associates Corel with Draw! and cheezy shovelware they used to toss at us.
The negative and divisive AC postings are probably the usual culprits at Mickeysoft (no wonder NT 5 is going to be over 4 years late...)
I can't wait till I can demo a NW at CompUSA or somewhere local... they look neat!
Hmmm... maybe so... :)
fetch and flush on my clients... now they're crunching RC5.
That's very exculsionary opinion, don't you think? Remember most people consider the windows manager to BE the OS!
I personally (MHO!!) think it is a noble goal for Unix to replace Windows entirely. It can be all things for all people, with the right installers and config tools. For example a server does not need (nor should it have) a window manager, at all.
Someday we'll all look back at the fall of Microsoft and chuckle at how the world came so close to being truly "dominated".
SuSE looked real nice, but has some bugs that have made things difficult for me to switch completely from Windows. SuSE does seem easier and has more bundled applications than RH 5.0. Troll Repellent: Just my _opinion_...
Since I/SuSE haven't yet got PPP to work, and X Windows is unreliable (it only works until I reboot), I'm going to give RH 5.2 a shot tonight.
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To expand on the SUSE bugs, YaST will hang the system if you are installing to a hard drive which has extra space not assigned to any partition... something that is not hard to do if you want a DOS partition also.
The other SuSE problem was X appears to work fine, but once I reboot out into Windows and then back X will fail to load (some connection error). Since this is my only working system I might as well give it a shot with RH 5.2 and download the extras later..
But I would give SuSE 6.0 another shot. Aside from the install bug, which I got around, it seems from my newbie position to be a VERY GOOD distribution, esp. for a home user (even includes the old computer/console emulators). RH is a bit more conservative, but if 5.2 gives me less throuble then it is what I will use, for now...
You might be able to do this with Apple -- they DO sell hardware with Linux installed.
Your real question is do you get a discount ordering "without OS"? I don't know the answer to that, but you can pursue it if you want. Apple did that "Customer Focus" thing on the Linux/Apache webserver running on their G3.
Yes, before some rude AC points it out this is not "without an OS". But it may be "without being charged for an OS". Check with the Education store, or someone at a school's admin department may have a real human Sales rep at Apple you can call..
Is there any way to tell "which" license an OEM uses in advance?
The license language could change vendor to vendor, and it would be nice to know which ones were this flexable.
I know you can order Linux systems from companies like VA, iDot (by special email ammending of order) and others, but if the license says you open the UPS container you agree to the license, you're $#|+ out of luck...
The OEM gets stiffed by MS on this one too: every Win95 license I have seen specifically says "licensed for THIS computer", meaning the license is not reusable when returned. That, and if you buy a new OS-less computer later on, you can't legally install it on the new machine -- even if you delete the old installation or physically move the old hard drive into the new system.
OK, I see what you mean now. Hope I didn't come off too defensive - I try not to.
:-/
I loath both Mac and Linux "elitist advocates"... be it MacKido or AC trollers.
I can't live just on Linux.. I want to... but it doesn't have the apps and games I use; I need either a Mac or Windows for that stuff, and I'm trying to be Microsoft free as soon as possible.
I really hate PC hardware. You wouldn't happen to know where I can find a how-to on installing Linux + Windows on a large hard drive (17.2 GB total but the BIOS only sees 8.4)? Between that, SuSE 5.3's YAST bugs and Microsoft DOS 6.2 FDISK bugs I have lost 10 hours this week