Methinks that you sir are not the old geezer that I am.
Open Source Software was not, at the time that I was in college, a viable alternative. During the 80s, and the 90s there were some shareware wordprocessors etc., but these were generally quite unsophisticated.
My original post in this thread was geared to the fact that *1-to-1 correspondence* is an old argument that various business entities have been using for quite some time, and continue to use. It is, and always has been a spurious argument, period.
An has been pointed out in numerous other post college students that used "pirated" M$ Word, and Excel in college went on to purchase them after they graduated. M$ benefited from not 'cracking down' on college students using "pirated" copies. Which is why you've not heard a lot out of Bill Gates on this particular issue.
'It would be just as accurate (or more so) to say that every downloaded song represents a POSSIBLE sale.'
Let me pick a nit here. What I was trying to get at is that there is no *one-to-one correspondence* between a DL and a lost sale.
I would also argue that there is no *one-to-one correspondence* to a POSSIBLE sale.
If 'I' can't get a "pirate" copy of M$ Word then "I'll" use something else that I can get for free, or something that is much cheaper. A $500.00 per copy M$ Word is not even a potential sale. i.e. "you can't get blood from a turnip."
The _______ industry is full of it for claiming that every ______ represents a lost sale.
First blank: software companies, music companies, or whatever.
Second blank: home taping, both audio & video, software coping, P2P, or whatever.
There's a simple truth here. One may be willing to get a "copy for free" of some works, but is not willing to pay for it period.
In other words: If "I" can't get it for free, then "I'll" do without.
One may be willing to DL an old bubble-gum tune from the late sixties, or early seventies, but one may not be interested enough to cough up cash for it.
A college student may not have enough money to purchase M$ Word, but uses a "pirate" copy for class work. If "pirate" copies are not available then the student would use something that is.
You do realize that Longhorn months are derived from the experiences of 'Dazed & Confused' hackers in Austin, Texas, and thus appreciate that a delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol induced time warp is operation, don't you?
Being a Texan, and having a friend who is a State Representative I'm somewhat familiar with the machinations of the Texas House. From my examination of the Texas House website it appears that Rep. Larry Phillips is the sole author of HB2893 with no co-authors.
This is generally not a good sign for a bill. Normally if a bill is popular with the members of the Texas House you'll see more than one author, and several co-authors. For example HB259 has 5 authors, and 50 co-authors. This bill past embossment by a vote of over 4-to-1. HB259 was very popular.
Not all bills that pass are that popular with the members of the Texas House. That said, for a bill to have just one author, and *no* co-authors does not bode well for that bill to pass embossment.
As of Sunday April 3, 2005 HB2893 has yet to make it through the Transportation Committee. It is scheduled for public hearing via the Transportation Committee on Tuesday, April 5, 2005.
First let me correct an assumption that you are making.
I do no base (believe as you put it) my statements and views on this matter on "the people who characterize this supposedly monolithic 'Academy" this way."
I base my statements and views based on personal experience, and the experiences of people that I trust, and have a high opinion of. I am a physicist by education, and training. I've been a student, both undergrad and grad, at two different junior colleges, and four different universities. Sometimes as a full time student, and sometimes as a part time student. I've been on faculty at two different junior colleges, and two different universities. I attend conferences in my field on a regular basis, as well as consult, and communicate with colleagues at other universities during any given year.
Here in Texas the 'Academy' is not so leftist as in the Northeast, and on the Pacific Coast. I have good and trusted friends who have attended grad school, or were undergrads at universities in those regions, and who have been on faculty at universities in these regions.
It is from these sources that I have formed my views, not politicos, opionionmeisters, or FoxNews
Frankly, there are a lot of folk in my neck of the woods that can't stand Bill O'Reilly. Indeed, I'd wager that most folk here a bouts think that he's a over-inflated wind-bag. My Dad, no liberal, and almost all of the WWII generation I know, view O'Reilly as an egotistical blowhard.
Fox news has been welcomed by many Americans because it acts a counterbalance to the the 'reporting' of the major networks, and the Pacific, and Northeastern press establishment. Not everyone out in 'Bush Country' thinks that Fox is without bias, but rather sees Fox presenting a different view than the other media usually do. A view that is other than an urban, ultra-secular, and basis its politics and social norms on fashionability.
The biggest problem that the anhtropogenic global warming scenario has with the public is that some of them remember the world is headed toward a new ice age theory from the early Seventies. The other problem is that first your told that carbs are good, then your told that carbs are bad. First your told that stress causes ulcers, but come to find out ulcers are caused by a type of germ.
People really are suffering from information overload. They live busy lives, and it's all they can do to keep up with their own lives, and that that of their families. It also does not help that 'The Academy' has become so heavily populated with folks with very left-wing social, and political agendas. Large sections of Americans do not trust institutions that they view as hot beds of neo-marxist pointy-headed, ivory tower bound granolas. Most of all they don't trust the chicken-little, 'doom is at hand' rhetoric that so many advocates (those who advance the theory of) of anhtropogenic warming. They have seen this pose before, and it's has become a pose that they very deeply distrust.
It's also not helpful that the whole dooms-day asteroid scenario has gotten so heavily played up by the Discovery Channel, etc.. In fact the dooms-day via natural event thing has completely out of control on several of the cable "science" channels, and in the general media as well. Many Americans see global warming as just another of the scenarios, and like the others interesting but not relevant to daily life. Indeed, it seems to me at least that the shows that draw big ratings on the cable 'science' channels are really nothing more that 'scientific' soap-operas. Drama! Drama! Drama! Will the world survive the crash of the asteroid?!?!!!!!! Tune in tomorrow, and find out!
Computer models are not going to change the publics mind. Hey you can use a computer model to generate FX such as in the Matrix and other movies to produce whatever scenario you'd like.
Hard data, analyzed by trusted, and calm minds is the only thing that the public will take seriously. The chicken-little presentations must get flushed, and solutions, plans, etc. must be presented with a 'can do' attitude. i.e. 'we've got a problem, and here's our options.' 'The problem is serious, but not insurmountable.' Until such time as those who believe in the anhtropogenic global warming scenario come to this realization very many Americans will view this theory with deep skepticism.
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I advocate the sterilization of gays, Canadians, and Methodist.
So am I engaging in "hate speech"?
Nuff Said...
I got you all beat.
A proud S.F.A.S.U. alumnus!
Ax 'em Jacks!
So there...
Hummm....
Methinks that you sir are not the old geezer that I am.
Open Source Software was not, at the time that I was in college, a viable alternative. During the 80s, and the 90s there were some shareware wordprocessors etc., but these were generally quite unsophisticated.
My original post in this thread was geared to the fact that *1-to-1 correspondence* is an old argument that various business entities have been using for quite some time, and continue to use. It is, and always has been a spurious argument, period.
An has been pointed out in numerous other post college students that used "pirated" M$ Word, and Excel in college went on to purchase them after they graduated. M$ benefited from not 'cracking down' on college students using "pirated" copies. Which is why you've not heard a lot out of Bill Gates on this particular issue.
You missed the argument. You are merely describing the *legal* situation that currently exists.
I am:
1. describing the *realpolitik*.
2. Exposing a fallacy in the argumentation of the _ _ A A.
'It would be just as accurate (or more so) to say that every downloaded song represents a POSSIBLE sale.'
Let me pick a nit here. What I was trying to get at is that there is no *one-to-one correspondence* between a DL and a lost sale.
I would also argue that there is no *one-to-one correspondence* to a POSSIBLE sale.
If 'I' can't get a "pirate" copy of M$ Word then "I'll" use something else that I can get for free, or something that is much cheaper. A $500.00 per copy M$ Word is not even a potential sale. i.e. "you can't get blood from a turnip."
The _______ industry is full of it for claiming that every ______ represents a lost sale.
First blank: software companies, music companies, or whatever.
Second blank: home taping, both audio & video, software coping, P2P, or whatever.
There's a simple truth here. One may be willing to get a "copy for free" of some works, but is not willing to pay for it period.
In other words: If "I" can't get it for free, then "I'll" do without.
One may be willing to DL an old bubble-gum tune from the late sixties, or early seventies, but one may not be interested enough to cough up cash for it.
A college student may not have enough money to purchase M$ Word, but uses a "pirate" copy for class work. If "pirate" copies are not available then the student would use something that is.
1 "pirate" copy = 1 lost sale? FALSE!
Not for the U.S.A..
The 'war time' being referred to in the grandparent of this post clearly refers to the U.S. as this thread is about a bill in the U.S. Congress.
Thus, the parent of this post is nonsensical.
'Slashdot is FOR licking Steve's ass now.'
I don't care what part of Steve's anatomy you are. I'm NOT going to lick you. So there....
You do realize that Longhorn months are derived from the experiences of 'Dazed & Confused' hackers in Austin, Texas, and thus appreciate that a delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol induced time warp is operation, don't you?
So you need proof that the 'Axiom of equality' is true.
'Axiom of equality' For all x (x = x).
Being a Texan, and having a friend who is a State Representative I'm somewhat familiar with the machinations of the Texas House. From my examination of the Texas House website it appears that Rep. Larry Phillips is the sole author of HB2893 with no co-authors.
This is generally not a good sign for a bill. Normally if a bill is popular with the members of the Texas House you'll see more than one author, and several co-authors. For example HB259 has 5 authors, and 50 co-authors. This bill past embossment by a vote of over 4-to-1. HB259 was very popular.
Not all bills that pass are that popular with the members of the Texas House. That said, for a bill to have just one author, and *no* co-authors does not bode well for that bill to pass embossment.
As of Sunday April 3, 2005 HB2893 has yet to make it through the Transportation Committee. It is scheduled for public hearing via the Transportation Committee on Tuesday, April 5, 2005.
Once again AMERICA prevails.
I balance my checkbook by regularly calculating its centroid.
You mean 31416, as 3.14159265358979 rounds off to 3.1416 if you're using five sigfigs.
So, we'd have to wait 11 years.
"The Wright brothers were the first to fly with a heavier-than-air machine, but boy did they have a lousy plane"
It is certainly true that two wrongs don't make a right, but it is equally true that two Wrights can invent the aeroplane.--Spock the Baptist
"You'll find that professional radio users in the US (dispatchers, hams etc) all say "zed" to avoid the "cee" ambiguity."
...
Silly me. Here I am thinking that they would say 'zulu.'
You know,
Alpha
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Fox
Yankee
Zulu
"...AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!!"
You know my great-uncle?!?
How about his twin brother ZEB?
Mark this post waaaay up!
You sir, have posed an interesting question.
I was thinking along the lines of...
Mesons, Bosons, and Hadrons, Oh! My!
First let me correct an assumption that you are making.
I do no base (believe as you put it) my statements and views on this matter on "the people who characterize this supposedly monolithic 'Academy" this way."
I base my statements and views based on personal experience, and the experiences of people that I trust, and have a high opinion of. I am a physicist by education, and training. I've been a student, both undergrad and grad, at two different junior colleges, and four different universities. Sometimes as a full time student, and sometimes as a part time student. I've been on faculty at two different junior colleges, and two different universities. I attend conferences in my field on a regular basis, as well as consult, and communicate with colleagues at other universities during any given year.
Here in Texas the 'Academy' is not so leftist as in the Northeast, and on the Pacific Coast. I have good and trusted friends who have attended grad school, or were undergrads at universities in those regions, and who have been on faculty at universities in these regions.
It is from these sources that I have formed my views, not politicos, opionionmeisters, or FoxNews
Frankly, there are a lot of folk in my neck of the woods that can't stand Bill O'Reilly. Indeed, I'd wager that most folk here a bouts think that he's a over-inflated wind-bag. My Dad, no liberal, and almost all of the WWII generation I know, view O'Reilly as an egotistical blowhard.
Fox news has been welcomed by many Americans because it acts a counterbalance to the the 'reporting' of the major networks, and the Pacific, and Northeastern press establishment. Not everyone out in 'Bush Country' thinks that Fox is without bias, but rather sees Fox presenting a different view than the other media usually do. A view that is other than an urban, ultra-secular, and basis its politics and social norms on fashionability.
The biggest problem that the anhtropogenic global warming scenario has with the public is that some of them remember the world is headed toward a new ice age theory from the early Seventies. The other problem is that first your told that carbs are good, then your told that carbs are bad. First your told that stress causes ulcers, but come to find out ulcers are caused by a type of germ.
People really are suffering from information overload. They live busy lives, and it's all they can do to keep up with their own lives, and that that of their families. It also does not help that 'The Academy' has become so heavily populated with folks with very left-wing social, and political agendas. Large sections of Americans do not trust institutions that they view as hot beds of neo-marxist pointy-headed, ivory tower bound granolas. Most of all they don't trust the chicken-little, 'doom is at hand' rhetoric that so many advocates (those who advance the theory of) of anhtropogenic warming. They have seen this pose before, and it's has become a pose that they very deeply distrust.
It's also not helpful that the whole dooms-day asteroid scenario has gotten so heavily played up by the Discovery Channel, etc.. In fact the dooms-day via natural event thing has completely out of control on several of the cable "science" channels, and in the general media as well. Many Americans see global warming as just another of the scenarios, and like the others interesting but not relevant to daily life. Indeed, it seems to me at least that the shows that draw big ratings on the cable 'science' channels are really nothing more that 'scientific' soap-operas. Drama! Drama! Drama! Will the world survive the crash of the asteroid?!?!!!!!! Tune in tomorrow, and find out!
Computer models are not going to change the publics mind. Hey you can use a computer model to generate FX such as in the Matrix and other movies to produce whatever scenario you'd like.
Hard data, analyzed by trusted, and calm minds is the only thing that the public will take seriously. The chicken-little presentations must get flushed, and solutions, plans, etc. must be presented with a 'can do' attitude. i.e. 'we've got a problem, and here's our options.' 'The problem is serious, but not insurmountable.' Until such time as those who believe in the anhtropogenic global warming scenario come to this realization very many Americans will view this theory with deep skepticism.
Just who is they?
Your grammatical construction is such, that 'they' is ambiguous.