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Canada Says No To DMCA
P Starrson writes "
The Canadian government has reportedly said no to the DMCA. It
released its plans
for copyright reform today with a limited anti-circumvention provision
that would not cover the likes of DeCSS. It even avoided the U.S.
"notice and takedown system" that has caused a big headache for U.S.
ISPs. A good summary is available from Canadian law professor Michael Geist. "
Seriously, why can't the US government learn to keep their noses out of every aspect in our lives?!
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1-0 for me being Canadian.
Emigrate. It`s not too late!
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Good to see the Canada being more realistic and more free about stuff like this.
to move to Canada ...
No DMCA, Kraft Dinner, and Tim Horton's...
What's the immigration process like?
Sorry, I had a little something in my throat.
OMG! Wau!
Hopefully that'll redeem Canada from all the recent bad press it got on Slashdot!
Go us! Now the question on everybody's mind up here is: with our refusal to put our official support behind the missile defense program and now this, how long before the border closes up completely?
I'll be honest, we're throwing science against the wall to see what sticks. -Cave Johnson
Canada says no to DMC, eh?
Is hip-hop not popular over there or something?
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
...to be a freedom hating communist. =P
-py
Yeah, warm up your vocal chords for a round of "Blame Canada", because the bombs will be dropping any moment now.
Why? Because sites will host this stuff all over Canada with impunity, that's why. What're we going to do, block sites at the border?
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Does NAFTA allow us to say no?
We need to rebalance the US and Canadian populations. All the evangelicals, racists, and conservatives go to the US. And all the sane people go to canada. Then, when the Revolution comes, they'll be the first ones up against the wall, and we'll be happy Canadians.
Canada reminds me of the videogame company that releases their product later so they don't make the mistakes of their competition and ends up with a superior result! Way to go! Now if you could only get that health care thing worked out.
"If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, A hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom (and its a PITA).
So they're saying that other countries don't have to follow US legislation? Who'd have guessed...
Seems a bit risky, considering their close proximity to the US and the tendency for US to invade other countries.
Government of Canada Unveils Plans for Copyright Reform
Industry Canada and Canadian Heritage, the two departments responsible for copyright policy in Canada, this morning released a joint statement on plans for copyright reform. There is an additional FAQ that fleshes out the issues. A bill is expected this spring and the statement spells out where Canada is headed. The key points include:
1. The government will implement the WIPO Internet treaties. Note that the government now speaks of implementing, rather than formally ratifying, the treaties. They indicate that they will consider ratification after this bill is passed.
2. The package will include an anti-circumvention provision applied to copyright material. There is no mention of extending the provision to devices (as is the case in the U.S.) and the specific reference to applying the provision to copyright material suggests that the provision will limit its applicability to circumvention to commit copyright infringement. The rights management information is similarly limited to instances to "further or conceal copyright infringement." While no anti-circumvention provision would be better, this suggests that the Canadian provision will feature some real balance.
Moreover, the FAQ makes clear that "the circumvention of a TPM applied to copyright material will only be illegal if it is carried out with the objective of infringing copyright. Legitimate access, as authorized by the Copyright Act, will not be altered." This is very different from anti-circumvention provisions found in the U.S. However, the FAQ also notes that circumvention for the purposes of private copying will not be permitted, meaning people may find themselves paying for a CD and paying a levy on blank CD yet unable to make the copy of the underlying CD.
3. The recording industry gets some of their package - a making available right and a full reproduction right for performers.
4. A "notice and notice" system for ISPs rather than notice and takedown. Canadian ISPs will only be required to notify their subscriber of an infringement claim, not take the content down as is found in the U.S. The ISP will be required to retain subscriber information, however to ensure that it is available should litigation later arise.
This is a major development as it implements a much fairer system than that found in the U.S. (or even the more draconian notice and termination system that CRIA raised last spring). The FAQ argues that this system is better suited to a P2P world, since notice and takedown simply doesn't work for P2P.
5. The photographers' copyright issue will also be addressed. It is not entirely clear how the reform will address the commissioning of photographs issue - an exception for private or domestic commissions is contemplated, but this one that really requires the legislative language. No word either on what will happen with the stalled Senate bill on this issue.
6. As previously reported, the extended license for Internet materials has been shelved for now with a consultation on the issue planned for this year.
7. The Act will include new provisions to facilitate electronic delivery of materials within schools and libraries. This is viewed as addressing the user side of the equation. It's a start but obviously user rights don't command the same attention as the rights holder groups.
8. Other major issues for immediate consultation include private copying and broadcasters rights.
The devil will be in the details but this represents a major shift away from the embarrassingly one-sided Canadian Heritage Standing Committee recommendations issued last May. While that report clearly pushed the agenda forward, the government's response has certainly recognized the need for some balance. Lots more on these issues to come...
with the best governments always have the lousiest weather??
I think we'll see many mp3z.ca type sites popping up. When canada opens up decent-sized hosting, someone's going to abuse it from afar (outside of Canada's jurisdiction). A Japanese pirater will use Canada's hosting (which will probably grow due to the lax liability laws) to serve to American consumers. The pirate network will never die, it seems...
Here is the website... :)
http://www.cic.gc.ca/
No sig for now.
... The *new* Land of the Free. :-)
"the circumvention of a TPM applied to copyright material will only be illegal if it is carried out with the objective of infringing copyright. Legitimate access, as authorized by the Copyright Act, will not be altered."
That sounds like it will allow the creation and sale of mod chips as long as they are used legally. Though, it doesn't allow private copying which means that cracking iTunes for personal use is still not legal.
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Oh, you're the government?
Could you kinda like, um, stop sucking? I'll wave a flag or whatever, maybe even say something nice about the President, but please, stop sucking.
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Yeah, a grow op of 20 plants on the property of a man with nearly a dozen charges of assault, uttering threats, threatening a police officer, firing a gun within city limits, driving infractions, and who was known to be less than stable. He'd sworn, on several occaisions, to kill people who angered him. The guy was a nut job, and in spite of all this, he had no problems buying all the guns he wanted from the government. Blaming this on weed is like blaming World War II on the German sausages causing indigestion.
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hurry up.
Because certain corporations who will remain nameless pay them not to. The courts have shot down certain laws that are intrusive under the Substantive Due Proccess requirement because the government couldn't show that the laws helped people rather than hurt them. It's much harder for them to do this when the rights being violated are more subtle (fixed term copyrights vs unlimited extensions) so it's easier for the corporations to control copyright.
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First "USA - North" say they won't participate in our beloved Star Wars, and now they refuse to embrace our holy copyright law?!
I hope they know what the price of defiance is, and I think I speak for the rest of Jebusland when I say, "Let's roll!"
I expect your people will greet us with Flowers and Candies, too.
Yeah, right.
So does this mean that all the protected CD's we get from the US we can now be sued for ripping? How does this make sense? We pay a high levy on every blank CD/DVD so that we can make copies, but if they are "protected", then we now legally cannot. According to this, even the Sharpie trick or Disabling Auto-Play is illegal now.
Plain and simple, while these ppl are trying to change the law to their advantage, it is politicians who are doing so. ppl like Utah's senator, Hatch. Many do it not because it is good for America, but because they are gaining personally. That is bad politics.
In other cases, Politicians will do something as a cause and try to make it look like they are doing the right thing, when in reality they know it is wrong, but simply wish to have something for the election.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Cue all the posts from USers wanting to emigrate.
Don't move here!
Sorry, only those who ARE would understand, and you clearly aren't :D
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No kidding. Next time we get some American beef with mad cow in it, we're SO invading.
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Plus they were there because of a stolen vehicle, not because of the grow op.
However, the FAQ also notes that circumvention for the purposes of private copying will not be permitted, meaning people may find themselves paying for a CD and paying a levy on blank CD yet unable to make the copy of the underlying CD.
If I buy a CD, I have every right to make a backup copy of that. Its called fair use. If I have to circumvent security to exercise my rights as a citizen and consumer, then I am circumventing a system which is trying to PREVENT me from exercising my rights. So what takes precendence? Fair use or DRM, which will take a higher precedence in a Canadian Court of law?
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The US government naturally grows like bacteria in a dish. It does not realize that its the growth itself that keeps it alive. They think they can just assimilate everything, but once that is acheived it won't survive. Just speculation of course, and I didn't liken it to virus, just a lichen.
Plus you don't get bankrupt over there because you got really sick.
(Ps: this isn't intended as flamebait or a troll post)
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...but my english is awful and my french is even worse...
Oh, I see, it's one of THOSE things.
;)
Yep, I guess I'll just go order me a glass of "You Got Served" juice, and enjoy it miserably
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Sorry, I missed that. I forgot why they had been called out there. The guy investigating about the vehicle had been told by the psycho that "if he came back with cops, he'd kill them." The guy came back with cops. He killed them. He was an honest psycho.
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Does this help in any way to keep IT talent in Canada, versus the current draining of much of that talent to the US? Mind you, I was told of this draining by a co-worker who himself "drained" from Canada, so that's just one person's opinion...
I think it is very sad that the poster tries to describe this somewhat as a positive event!
That there is really a sequence of 'compatible copyright laws' for major/economically important parts of the world (first the DMCA, then the EU version (which applies for me), now Canada's 'reform') shows very well WHO is in control.
This comes together with a brainwashing campaign in cinemas etc. to mold the citizens back into consumer sheep.
Why can't one hear better news regarding IP laws? The only 'good news' in this area are some of the court decisions where a few enlightened judges with common sense try to bring these laws back on track.
Go ahead, invade. We'll just give you the affected cows (or their meat) back.
Of course, this is just the history of it. The two cows that have been detected were brought into the US from Canada.
What is funny is how asymetric the trade reactions to this are. US has two cows show up (which were born/raised in Canada...), and the world has a shit fit about importing US beef. The only problems Canada seems to have is with R-CALF keeping the pressure on the USDA and the US courts to keep the borders closed because it's not entirely clear how well Canada is controlling its bovine feed supplies with regards to bovine by-product supplimentation.
Of course, in the US, there is a lot of pressure from the BIG Agribusiness companies to reopen the border. Gotta keep those American feedlots full of cheap Canadian cattle!
That movie was *way* to far fetched. I mean, what are the odds that a US President would invade some foreign country they know next-to-nothing about on completely made up "evidence", just to increase the popularity of the President? Seriously people, get a grip on reality.
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Offtopic, not informative.
Hey. I'm not a lumberjack, or a fur trader.
And I don't live in an igloo, or eat blubber, or own a dogsled.
And I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada, although I'm certain they're really, really nice.
I have a Prime Minister, not a President.
I speak English and French, NOT American. and I pronounce it 'ABOUT', NOT 'A BOOT'.
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack. I believe in peace keeping, NOT policing. DIVERSITY, NOT assimilation, AND THAT THE BEAVER IS A TRULY PROUD AND NOBLE ANIMAL.
A TOQUE IS A HAT, A CHESTERFIELD IS A COUCH, AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!!
CANADA IS THE SECOND LARGEST LANDMASS! THE FIRST NATION OF HOCKEY! AND THE BEST PART OF NORTH AMERICA!
MY NAME IS JOE!! AND I AM CANADIAN!!!!!!!!
Thank you.
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As for the by-products control, the thing was, seven years ago Canada banned using animal by-products as animal feed. The cows that the States got were seven years old, and had been raised for the first few months of their life on the LAST few months of animal by-product feed process. These were the LAST possible cows who could have gotten Mad Cow from the feed, and they did, and we gave them to you guys. One in a million shot, doctor... one in a million.
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Well, I must say that the old axiom 'the grass is always greener on the other side' must hold true here. Yes, Canada has said no to the DMCA - this is a good thing (tm).
HOWEVER, Canada has far more draconian free speech rules than in the United States. This is small fries compared to other things that have happened in Canada. The case of Ernst Zundel is an excellent case in point. While not a Canadian citizen, he was deported under a national security order for his views. The article was carried here,, and I'd suggest you look into it.
That being said, I am a Canadian and this is an excellent move in my opinion. I just wish we could combine some elements of your system of government and your essential freedoms that are lacking up here. We don't even have a concrete bill of rights that can't be overriden in many regards by our legislature.
"There's no success like failure, and failure's no success at all."
- Bob Dylan
Can record companies (Canadian equiv. of [MPRI]{2}AA) sue p2p users sharing music and movies?
Currently no. Once this act is passed, yes they can. The ISP is obligated to maintain sufficent records to identify the subscriber for a period of time.
Relevent documentation from Proposed changes:
Upon receipt of a notice, ISPs would also be required to keep a record of relevant information for a specified time. Rights holders would have the legal means to compel ISPs to comply with the regime.
AND
(FAQ)
This will clarify that the unauthorized posting or the peer-to-peer file-sharing of material on the Internet will constitute an infringement of copyright.
Can users copy records/movies for private use?
Currently yes. After this act is passed, yes BUT users are not allowed to legally bypass any restrictions (DRM) in order to do so. That becomes illegal.
Relevent documentation from Proposed changes:
The Act's private copying regime provides for an exception to copyright that permits the making of a copy of a sound recording for private use
BUT... not everything is good: (from FAQ)
The bill will also contain legal protections for technological protection measures (encryptions, password requirements) and rights management systems containing information for the purpose of tracking uses of works. The removal of or tampering with such measures for the purpose of infringing copyright will itself constitute an infringement of copyright.
What this looks like is basically opening the door to lawsuits for record companies, making file sharing illegal and closing the door on consumers being able to turn off DRM to make a copy of a CD or movie for themselves.
How is this not DMCA?
Je n'ai comprend pas.
Now I guess I need to start taking back all of those bad things I said about Canada.
LK
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toront ho! ???
Previvously when we had received an infringement notice from copyright holders, we would notify the customer to remove the infringing files, and that would be that.
Now, we have to inform them that we have had a complaint, and then keep record of the notification for some reasonable length of time.
I do like the notice and notice aspect, just not the keeping record part. The responsibility is now on us to maintain accurate records of contact.
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I much rather prefer The Edge 102's version.... But enough is enough with beating ourselves and everyone over the head with a 4 or 5 year old Molson ad campaign. Let the yanks have their flag waving, crest on their shoulders patriotism. I've happily gone back to the cannuck stereotype of being polite and silent yet proud and fierce.
Despite the cheery headline, there are still some lamentable changes being proposed. Chiefly, protection for TPMs (Technological Protections Measures, or DRM) in the same vein as the DMCA are being sought, because, you know, they worked so well in chilling innovation and fostering anti-competitive practices in the USA. Reverse-engineering and circumvention of protection measures will be illegal, unless not for the purpose of facilitating infringement, but that's the kind of purpose that can only be determined after a lengthy trial...
And the "notice and takedown" provison is being avoided, but a "notice and notice" provision is being sought, which is slightly less problematic (it does not require immediate removal of the allegedly infringing material) but there are still provisions being sought that require an ISP to facilitate the process of finding and suing potential infringers.
The gov't clearly wants to restrict the definition of "publicly available" material on the internet, and expand the licensing agreement between educational institutions and content providers (read: more money flows from students to copyright holders). If you are a private individual and not a student, there is to date no mention of how you might legally copy information available on the internet.
And finally, there is no indication yet on the direction the gov't wants to go with our oft-cherised "private copying" right, which currently may or may not apply to downloading music onto your computer. (No, it is not clearly legal in Canada, despite what newspapers and other slashdot posters say. It's just very hard to identify and sue infringers.)
So, there is all that to consider.
It's a fucking retarded BEER COMMERCIAL that only a fucking toothless hick would find funny let alone be proud of. If a BEER COMMERCIAL is how you measure your patriotism and self worth then you've got problems my friend.
"Are you refering to the canadians burning the white house? Isnt that pretty hotly contested? Canadians love to claim they burned the whitehouse down but I think the brits actually did it?"
:)
We *were* Brits at that point so its a moot point. We were a colony of the British Empire until 1867 and 1947(?) in the case of the province of Newfoundland). We are still a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, and we have many examples of our British heritage. The Queen of England is still our Queen for instance (when I swore my oath upon joining the Canadian Forces in '86, it was to "The Queen and all her heirs and successors in perpetuity" for instance. In reality she has no effective political power at all, but we send her a beaver pelt every year).
So when Canadians say we burnt the Whitehouse, it was in fact British Troops, but they had come south from Canada. We were all British back then, so we can claim it as part of our heritage. Besides you guys got a snazzy white paint job out of the deal and it probablly looks better as a result. Now if you could only convince Big Business to put a better choice in the Oval Office...
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Actually, Hatch is both. He owns and collects royalties on a catalog of songs he's written. He just happens to be in a unique position to (theoretically) help himself out by enforcing copyright.
-Dan
Blaming this on weed is like blaming World War II on the German sausages causing indigestion.
:)
No, everyone knows WWII happened because no one in Germany could afford sausages in the 1930's...so maybe it was from a "lack of" indigestion?
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Blaming this on weed is like blaming World War II on the German sausages causing indigestion.
Not really. Think about it.
Scenario 1: Pot is legal. You grow pot. You sell pot. You smoke pot. You pay your taxes and uphold the law. The cops don't bother you.
Would you shoot a cop?
Scenario 2: Pot is illegal. If you are caught selling it, you get a large fine and possibly some jail time. If you are caught using it, you get a small fine. You grow pot. You sell pot. You smoke pot. Cops have been tipped off and are coming for you, and if you get caught you face a $20,000 fine up to a year in jail.
Would you shoot a cop?
Scenario 3: Pot is illegal. If you are caught selling it, you go to jail for 20 years. If you are caught using it, you are sent to jail for 3 years. You grow pot. You sell pot. You smoke pot. Cops have been tipped off and are coming for you, and if you get caught you go away for the rest of your life.
Would you shoot a cop?
It appears, because of this event, that they will be shelving legistlation to reduce the penalties involved in marijuana. Does anyone else think this is really stupid, or is it just me?
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i just started using usenet, and along with the normal porn that gets posted, there seems to be a lot of child porn too!! (one can notice that by just reading the message subjects, not downloading any pictures).
is this dangerous? should i stop using usenet just because some asshole post illegal and offensive child porn?
if you know anything about this ( i know this is slashdot so a lot of people should know about usenet) please reply.
If your patriotism is how you measure your self worth, then you have problems.
It wasn't a 'grow op'. It was twenty plants. Hell, a buddy of mine had fifteen plants, and his just got confiscated, and he got a month in jail and some community service because he didn't "sell" it, he just gave it to his buddies. In my town, my old roomate had a pot plant in his living room. His reason? "If I leave it outside, the cops take it." Twenty plants in northern Alberta is still pretty much a personal stash. This isn't a matter of a guy being afraid of going to jail and shooting cops, this is a matter of a guy who LIKED to shoot people, shooting cops.
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How about his twin brother ZEB?
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...but my english is awful and my french is even worse...
You could be our next Prime Minister.
Trolling is a art,
Seriously, the US Congress is nothing more than shills for corporations.
I think its time to leave the US and move to Canada. Canada seems to be a more free society than the US.
Right, but the cops weren't there because of the pot. Changing the marijuana legislation as a result of this makes as much sense as invading Egypt because of this.
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A"notice and notice" regime in relation to the hosting and file sharing activities of an ISP's subscribers would be provided for. That is, when an ISP receives notice from a rights holder that one of its subscribers is allegedly hosting or sharing infringing material, the ISP would be required to forward the notice to the subscriber. Blocking access to such material would be required only when ordered by a court. Upon receipt of a notice, ISPs would also be required to keep a record of relevant information for a specified time. Rights holders would have the legal means to compel ISPs to comply with the regime. The Government would have the power to prescribe the form that must be used in giving notices and to set fees that may be required to be paid by rights holders to ISPs for processing such notices.
I think this is about as fair a system as you can get. ISPs are protected as carriers of information. Rightsholders are able to proceed with civil actions, but the removal of information requires the finding of a court. And everyone is protected (to some extent) from overzealous rightsholders by the possibility of a "processing fee" to compensate ISPs for their trouble.
In Soviet America the banks rob you!
First, I'm glad to hear that we won't be adopting the DCMA any time soon in Canada. We don't have the money to enforce it anyway.
I hope they know what the price of defiance is, and I think I speak for the rest of Jebusland when I say, "Let's roll!"
Ya ya I know you're joking about attacking Canada, but I still dislike hearing about that stuff from Americans.
Every time we do what the rest of the world wants to (but doesn't) -- right wing America gripes and sends us idle threats about bloodshed and mayhem in the Great White North. You would have a hell of a time trying to annex Canada. We beat you in 1812 and with 75% of your military currently in Iraq, you would have a very tough time picking winning fights up here. Also, I think that if *any* country attacked Canada, the rest of the world would unite and fight on our behalf, as if it was WW2. Oh, and don't forget that we have ten times as many guns as you do per capita (and yet a lower murder rate???)...
Seriously... bring it!
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If it can be argued that the person you got the DVD movie you've downloaded from was in Canada, there's nobody to sue in the chain of DMCA violations, only in the copying of copyrighted content violations. The Canadian user could DeCSS the content for you.
What I'm curious about now is whether this will lead to an identifier (maybe another DVD region?), for Canada, in the next format, but such that ripped content could be identified.
as good as this for Canada, I'd do better lobbying my own countries' politicans for reasonable copyright and against new DMCA like "copyright police state" laws which the enterntainment is lobbying for, than posting on and reading /. where most people share a more reasonable stance on the subject anyway (even if the entertainment industrie's "We're the good guys and they're the bad guys" - Propaganda did take its toll among the /. population) .
i .html ; they're mostly bureaucrat-, lobbyist-, marketing- and lawyer-leeches that try to port and impose an inefficient and obsolete distribution system to the information age and restrict new technology and misemploy them to gain even more control, regardless of the damage to society it would cause. Think what could happen a tcpa/palladium (tcg/ngscb) like control technology gets mandated into every computer to enforce copyrights and DRM and then a not-perfectly-good government decides to increasingly use it for suveillance, censorship and control purposes.
They're not. Not the big labels at least. http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/albin
Why?
He may be illiterate and a self-titled jerk, but he does have a point. Which senators sponsor legislation like the DMCA come from? They happen to be from areas of the country that want to ban violent video games, make schools more like prisons than learning institutions, and let people sue pencil makers for poking themselves in their stupid, stupid eyes.
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All bow to the holy Marijuana plant it can do no harm.
When are we all going to wake up and quit recognizing silly things like copyright and rights management?
If the people just quit allowing the companies into bullying us into it, it would go away. Canada is at least trying to make a small stand, but they dont go far enough.
The old ways are over. Nobody should have the right to tell me I cant copy and give something away, using whatever means possible. Soone we will realize that all this electronic crap we have around us is actually somewhat boring and we will spend time creating things ourselves, or going out once in a while. This whole idea that I cant copy something because I am infringing on some huge jackass corporation is just insane. How did they ever get the people to give them that power?
...it's time to MOVE to CANADA, eh?! :)
The Barbarian Invasions depicts Canadian health care from an interesting perspective. Never having seen socialized medicine first-hand, I found it a real eye opener.
"Give a man a fish and he will ask for tartar sauce and French fries!"
I wonder if this means I can ignore DCMA in my daily life under Free Trade?
Heck, if we can send in the Navy whenever a US tourist forgets where he left his watch, it makes sense that the FTAA would give me that right, eh?
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Yeah, way to go doofus. Give the hate-monger lunatics the most heavily armed country in the world, and the sane people can be right beside them. I'm going to guess that you're Canadian, because that's a stoner idea.
In Soviet America the banks rob you!
Thanks for an calm logical answer as opposed to pointless US bashing. Ive asked that question several times and only gotten canadian jingoism.
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Nice to see that Canada once again has decided not be the US' bitch.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity but they've always worked for me" - HST
Just to show you how forgiving and big hearted we Americans are, we'll be happy to join your coalition any time you want to invade Egypt. =)
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Buy a Red Dwarf CD (produced in Canada on a British label), and then copy it for personal use?
Is that ok? Or will the Scutters come to take us away to GITMO?
And how about if we buy music from Canadian artiste Sarah McLachlan, in the US, but are Canadian citizens and the CD was manufactured in Canada.
What then?
Is it ok to drive south and buy Mariachi music in Mexico and ignore the US DRM? What if I'm on vacation and using a US MP3 player ripped from a Canadian CD of the Mexican band?
Who rules then?
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When is California going to pay for all that power it stole from Canada?
Can we have our water and natural gas back too?
As much as this _sounds_ good, they're still not giving me what I want:
First they say:
That is, the circumvention of a TPM applied to copyright material will only be illegal if it is carried out with the objective of infringing copyright.
Then they go on to say:
Circumvention for the purposes of making private copies of sound recordings will not be permitted, however.
I have a cottage, why can't I have a copy of the DVD's I own at my cottage and a copy at my house? Why should I pay twice for this privilege or lug around DVD's all the time?
Same with CD's when they get copy-protection. Does this mean I will not be able to make copys of my CD's?? The current life-span of a CD in my car is less than a year, am I expected to re-buy this simply because I'm not allowed to make personal copys?
It's bullshit.
Not all dogs drink Coke.
The whole grow op angle bugged me from the getgo, especially when it was disclosed the original reason the cops were there was nothing to do with the pot, they just discovered that during the search for stolen property that had taken them there.
Of course the RCMP are playing up the pot as much as possible since it is in their vested interest for the current laws to remain and/or tougher laws to be on the books. They were among the first to put up a stink when the government said it was looking to lessen charges involving weed.
All for a plant that some guy in the 20's didn't really like and he used a bunch of false information to make it illegal. Reefer Madness anyone?
It is a plant! I cannot believe we as a species are so holier than thou that we think we can declare entire plant species as "illegal". Pathetic waste of tax monies enforcing it and it amounts to little but a make work project for those in society who believe they have the right to dictate what others can and cannot do to their bodies.
Nobody has overdosed and died from smoking weed, meanwhile thousands die every year from alcohol poisoning, go figure.
What do we do with wise men? We kill those people.
I like to place meaningful quotes in my sig, so people will know that I know what meaningful quotes are.
Topicality: Discussion of copyright laws of other jurisdictions to contrast them with proposed changes to Canada's
In the USA,"Fair Use" is not a right. It is defense against prosecution.
The opinion of the Supreme Court in Eldred v. Ashcroft stated that without a right of fair use, the copyright privilege might not remain compatible with the free press right under the First Amendment. This could eventually be used to attack the circumvention ban enacted as part of the DMCA once free information advocates accumulate enough dissent among the appellate circuits.
It is also very nebulously defined, on purpose to make
Even bankruptcy won't help, as Congress is about to vote April 6th on the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
Aptly named, the act "protects" banks and lenders from those nasty middle-class comsumers who lose their jobs, whose families break up, and who suffer unforeseen medical emergencies.
Any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
Dangit, I was so mesmerized by her COUGH beauty, I didn't even notice what she was sayin!
I usually support Democrats, but this is one area where Clinton's attempting to have his cake and eat it too led to an incredibly bad law.
Clinton accepted that most of the good manufacturing jobs would move overseas. America's strength, as he saw it, was in intellectual property. Therefore, a vote to strenghten holders of copyrights was in America's interest, right?
Oops.
Signing this was one of his biggest blunders after his support for deregulating radio and welfare reform.
If you are making 6 figures in the USA you can afford insurance. With insurance you aren't going bankrupt due to health probelms. Even with out insurance you should still be able to pay for it. You do have an emergency situation bank account right?
There are 11 types of people, those who know unary and those who don't.
So long as you own the original CD and are just using it to play the music you bought.
However, does this also apply to songs ripped from a game CD as played on a PS2? My reading is that it does, and if I just buy the Canadian version of the game and play it on my Canadian MP3 player, as a Canadian citizen (and a US citizen, but that's no help) residing in the USA, I should be free to do that.
Hmm, well since music is still cheaper in Canada, guess it's time to drive up for the half-yearly music sale in Vancouver!
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The border is already effectively closed as far as I'm concerned. The USA has REPEATEDLY lost their battles over softwood tariffs and beef import restrictions and yet the politicians down there are still blocking imports by simply throwing up new laws/rules that they *know* will eventually be struck down again. NAFTA is a complete failure from the Canadian perspective as the "free flow of goods and services" is apparently only a one-way deal.
There is a growing sentiment up here that we should no longer offer the USA preferential access to our natural resources. If you don't want our lumber or our beef, why should we be paying high electric rates to subsidise California? Why should we be shipping our fresh water south by the truckload?
I (and many other Canadians) have stopped going to the USA on vacation. I now give my tourist dollars to countries in Asia, Europe and elsewhere.
Just out of curiosity... how is this insightful, and the parent is off-topic flamebait?
I like to place meaningful quotes in my sig, so people will know that I know what meaningful quotes are.
is there a law against canadian politicians running for office in the US if they become "legal residents" (aka cross the border circa Bush amnesty)?
Id love to outsource some of the politicians that vote for things like the DMCA.
Mike
I heart the RIAA & MPAA, im sure its mutual...
"...AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!!"
Why add an extra consonant? Wow that would sound kind of silly if we treated all the letters that way.
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If you've ever seen Talking To Americans, you'd know that a lot of Americans don't know where Canada is. Right snug beside you is probably the safest place to be.
"Where are they on the map? We need to get our carriers over there!"
"I searched the whole middle east, can't find em on the map."
"Try harder. I hear they've only got a few million people, so they must be really small... maybe near Israel?"
we like Canada now or are they still evil up there?
this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. -- Lincoln, Gettysburg Address
Well, weather permitting, I would have to say the grass _does_ seem greener on our side of the fence.
An example of free speech: we don't get called unpatriotic and/or labelled a terrorist (and thus have almost all personal rights revoked) for saying that our political leader is a dickhead. I would even dare say that it's a necessity to question the competence of our leaders, otherwise they would get away with worse stuff than they do now.
HAHAHAHAHA! You can't even hold together Iraq, where all the foreigners look and sound different. How the fuck do you propose to occupy a country where the "enemy" looks and sounds like you?
"all the US would have to do is to hold irregular patches of territory within a few hundred miles of the border, and not the entire country."
LOL, that sounds so easy. When was the last time you were able to successfully "hold" anything? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? Think you'll do a better job on a 5000 mile border?
You pussies sure are good at bombing the shit out of civilians from the air though, and running away.
You fat, ignorant, murderer.
Actually I think he has a point there. Have you ever watched Tony Blaire be cross-examined on the floor of the House of Lords? I may dislike his policies, but the guy has amazing oratory skills - he defends his policies and ideas with clarity and coherence. It adds to the public discourse on complex issues. This kind of accountability of the Executive leads to a cleaner and more transparent government.
I *WANT* to see all future US Presidents have to defend themselves in front of the US Senate.
I *WANT* to see GW Bush have to defend himself to cross-examination by opposition parties on the floor of the Senate.
So yeah, I do think there's something the US can learn from British Parliament-style government.
1) You own a DVD, and through fair-use are allowed to make copies.
2) Due to the DMCA, you're not allowed to break the encryption to make copies of your movie, which you have the right to do.
3) Therefore, your only alternative is to download a copy of the movie, which is hazy legal territory (I'm not sure of it, but it's legal to download but illegal to upload it indiscriminately?)
Get rid of the DMCA, get rid of any region encoding and stupid encryption stuff on DVD's, and then you take away people's "right" to download movies, because there really isn't much excuse (maybe if your DVD got scratched?)
Also, I'd like to commend the movie industry on competitive pricing of movies. Crappy movies I can get for less than good movies. And I do feel the prices are justified because a lot of money goes into making these movies (I wish they'd use more discretion though... I shouldn't have to support a studio's flops by paying exorbinant amounts for its successes).
On the other hand, the music industry has a legit complaint about downloading. However, many feel their price-fixing of CD's and music for the last decade or two is more evil than any copy-protection used by movie studios.
Who knows. Maybe Sony will think of something revolutionary to change both industries.
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Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
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One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Nowadays, Contributions == Representation.
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The result should be a Copyright Act that addresses the Internet in a manner that appropriately balances the rights of copyright owners to control and benefit from the use of their creative works with the needs of users to have reasonable access to those works.
[2]
In conformity with the WCT and WPPT, the alteration or removal of rights management information (RMI) embedded in copyright material, when done to further or conceal infringement, would itself constitute an infringement of copyright
[3]
First ownership of copyright in commissioned photographs would now rest with the photographer, but an individual that commissions a photograph for personal or domestic purposes would, subject to an agreement to the contrary, be able to make personal and non-commercial uses of that photograph
This isn't really bad politics (at least as they are today). This actually great politics. Just happens to be bad for the country (and its people).
Unfortunatly, good politics and what is good for the people seldom intersect and politicians of course will go with good politics almost everytime.
"reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert
They've been consistantly rejecting or dumbing down several forcefully proposed legislation by the US, such as the missile defense system being installed on Canadian sites, stricter drug laws and now this. I'm impressed... now if only Europe could do something similiar with the software patent bs.
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The headline and other comments from the editors / submitter seems to imply that there was a proposal to adopt the DMCA (an American law) in Canada. This is really irresponsible, as if a sovereign ccountry would take another countries laws and "adopt" them.
It would be more accurate to say that the Canadian government has announced that it will be tabling a law that doesn't include some of the DMCA like ideas that were in the recommendations from the heritage committee.
It even avoided the U.S. "notice and takedown system" that has caused a big headache for U.S. ISPs. A good summary is available from Canadian law professor Michael Geist.
ISP's did not consider the notice and takedown system a headache -- they negotiated for the provisions as a condition of their patronage of the bill!
The reason is simple: ISPs NEVER have to be liable for infringement of its users. A service provider is not responsible for certain user infringements unless and until it receives notice. Then, it is absolutely free of liability (including liability to the user for wrongful takedown) if it takes down the noticed content.
I'm not saying its a good thing, mind you. I'm saying that ISPs bargained for and like these provisions.
You might just want to wait before you load up the minivan...
Some fun snippets for you canuks who are celebrating a little early:
It will also be made clear that private copies of sound recordings cannot be uploaded or further distributed
Oops! No more legal P2P loophole.
Circumvention for the purposes of making private copies of sound recordings will not be permitted, however
Oops! No braking that annoying DRM for purpose of making a backup or otherwise private copy, like to a HD for easier playback.
ISPs can play a significant role to curb infringing activities of subscribers on those networks, however. The bill will also provide that they be required to forward notices of claims of infringement from rights holders to their subscribers (a "notice-and-notice" requirement).
Now if I'm not mistaken you are at least as badly off than us US (that's kind of an amusing phrase) citizens, where some large ISP's are at least fighting generic takedown notices!
Sure everyone, flee to Canada instead of fighting for your rights at home. Fucking cowards.
Sorry, had to get that off my chest, Instead of paying for a home in the No Longer Free North, consider please a donation to the EFF.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
he Canadian government persists in giving away millions of dollars to bureaucrats, subcontractors, and "non-profit" agencies that have only done one thing right; being government-friendly beneficiaries of this lavish cronyism.
The government's lack of leadership is solved by keeping its thick bureaucracy happy - just to lessen the public outcry. And of course, by being nice to their close friends who plunder the treasury, declare bankruptcy, or otherwise benefit from rich government contracts that pay well.
But in terms of immigration policy, taxation and the economy, who pays for this lack of vision? The ones who bring billions of dollars, not only in cash, but also in skills to Canada; immigrants. The government is directly responsible of this multibillion dollar fiasco and so it has to be accountable for the de-skilling process and decapitalization that each foreign professional suffers as soon as he arrives here.
Just think about it for a second... Aren't foreign professionals entitled to be retroactively compensated for this mismanagement? For example, if you (as a family doctor) had worked in your field of expertise, you would have made x amount of money every year, wouldn't you? But because you were working as a taxi driver, caregiver, or something similar, your income was significatively lower. And for the "privilege" of working in a Brown Collar Ghetto, you get to pay taxes, GST, PST, health care premiums etc. Just like the well off Canadians do here in Canada; except they can afford it, you can't.
At the same time the rest of your hard earned money has been feeding the Canadian economy, because you buy products and services in the Canadian market and that creates directly and indirectly jobs for Canadians. How many job counsellors, landlords, business owners, and political parties have benefited from immigrants? And what do we get in return?
Nothing.
We have to live in "bad" neighborhoods, not because we want to be in the midst of drug dealers, crowded, stinky, cockroach infested buildings, greasy businesses, liquor stores, pawn and pot shops, but because we can't afford a house in a "good" neighborhood where many "Canadian professionals" live, where one can see trees, flowers, rivers instead.
Yes, we live in impoverished neighborhoods where we are condemned to remain silent, surrounded by marginalized Canadians with whom you can only talk about the weather, because they never finished even basic schooling, because they are on drugs, or simply for your own safety.
Maybe living in "good" neighborhoods doesn't mean we are going to have interesting conversations with Canadian professionals, but at least we will have the chance to invite some educated people from other countries and guarantee them a minimum level of public safety.
Even the basics of food, and clothing are limited by our meager incomes. We have to buy our clothes in second hand stores or out of season, when they are on sale. We have to eat lots of industrialized food because the "organic" one is way more expensive. Look at who shops in fancy boutique grocery stores in trendy areas. Then look at who goes to the big box discount stores.
Many of the basic services are out of our reach: dentists, cars, car insurance, family vacations, cultural events, professional treatment by a family physician, good education for our kids.
Most of our kids go to schools where the grade 8 English teacher will be the Grade 9, 10, 11 English teacher. That same teacher will also teach Physical Education, give counseling, and if needed he teaches Social Studies too. Oh, don't forget how low the Canadian childcare services were rated last year by the OECD, nor how expensive postsecondary education is.
As you may see, we are paying way too much for the standard of living that this "strong" economy is giving us in return. And you know why? We, as foreign and visible minority professionals, along with our kids, have been marginalized from the mainstream society while this country sh
Then we'll see who's really in control... for those brief hours before we get invaded.
Seriously, we need to counter their blockades with our own.
The US complains about a bit of pot being sent south, but they need to get their gun situation under control before they complain.
Could you kinda like, um, stop sucking? I'll wave a flag or whatever, maybe even say something nice about the President, but please, stop sucking.
Monica Lewinsky, is that you??
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Argh, misread that post...
That joke must've looked strange, LOL!
Too bad that Molson is pretty much owned by Coors (yes I know it was a merger but Coors more or less took control)
When the powers that be eventually succeed in eliminating porn and piracy from the Internet, won't the ISPs go broke when everyone cancels their subscription?
They are compairing it to the DMCA to try to calm the Canadians down really. This isnt neccacerly a good thing. I hope the same groups that came out before to defang the blank media levys show up again.
I doubt this will be taken lightly, and what is fianlly implemented (if the normal process holds true) will be a Relistic (relistic as in actually relistic and not compring it to the DMCA) balenced uniquly Canadian approch..
Remember this is just a commity preposal and not law (yet)
oh canadia!
you guys kicked some ass.
they did what their parents told them to do, and said 'no'.
"Fucking Yanks".
That's what Canadians instinctively think when they hear comments such as yours. "Banana Republic, Guam, Puerto Rico". Oh, how we drool at the thought of being associated with these stellar examples of democratization, liberty and equality that the U.S. has produced.
You walk your walk and talk your talk now while you have a bit of bounce in your step. Do you really think Canada - or the world - exists purely to satisfy the needs of the U.S? Do you think you'll just invade countries and plunder what you what? Are you really that arrogant? Do you think a pendulum only swings one way? Or are you just assuming an American {New World Order | Manifest Desitiny | Reich} lasting a thousand years?
You belittle Canada's not insignificant contributions to operations in Afghanistan. (You even bombed our fucking soldiers!) You glibly predict the separation and 'assimilation' of one of the worlds leading democracies. You're just gonna 'take' our water whenever you decide you need it.
"Fucking Yanks".
No surprise at that sentiment. Man, I grew up adoring your country. Now I think that you're just pissing it away - and even worse - no one seems to give a shit. Keep it up with the hubris. I'm sure it will go a long way in appeasing the world that 'Aw, shucks. We're a peaceful, God-fearing country. We just needed a lttle [insert commodity here] is all'.
it was more than 20 plants actually, it was 280 plants, with 20 'mature' plants according to the rcmp press release.... here's my reference... http://www.polspy.ca/items/2005/03/22/1056.php
Hate to be a spelling Nazi, but the title should've been, "Canada Says Noo to DMCA."
Somebody had to say it.
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At his site, http://www.orrinhatchmusic.com/ , I couldn't find any downloadable content.
What gives? He is sooo far behind the times.
That is bad politics.
No, it's GREAT politics. It's very POOR leadership. Politics is about selling your soul to the highest bidder. Leadership is about doing the right thing, even though your "friends" with the deep pockets might not like it. We many great politicians in this country, but very few leaders.
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Bring it on ! The 8 time you tried invading US you lost territory. We kicked you arse every time.
Your CANADA South , where the heck the A in US of A come from
You have the #1 army in the world , whe have the #0 , yours loose all the time , ours as no one left to battle we killed them all !
oh , and have another nice day under our protection.
When I have the money I plan on moving to Canada.
Can I just have money for the fees (for permanent residence for example) or do I also have to have a valid reason to give the immigration people to have permission to move in? Or will just money get me in the door?
When I do, it'll be in the Toronto area. Any suggestion on banks there that wont charge me to hold my money for a simple checking account?
Right now I live in Texas and have an account with USAA which offers free checking with no fees. I'd like to get something like that in Canada.
Where did I put that "reasons to move to Canada checklist"? Hmmmm...
No idiotic, childish chimp of a leader...check!
Festive money...check!
Cheaper cost of living...check!
Cops less likely to shove plungers in your ass or mistake a can of pop for an assault rifle...check!
Biggest political scandals involve PM's mistress instead of lying to start a war...check!
Government refuses to bend over for corps...check!
> If a BEER COMMERCIAL is how you measure your patriotism and self worth then you've got problems my friend.
;-)
You're only saying that because you're an american and your beer only has 3% alcohol in it, most Canadian beers have at least 5%.
So Fnah!
I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
Plagiarism and piracy are completely different things. Copyright violation is about authorization; plagiarism is about dishonesty. Here's Webster on plagiarize:
I think it's very interesting that plagiarism is defined here as theft, because that's how we've been taught to think of piracy. Plagiarism certainly feels like theft: you plagiarize my work, then you gain something and I lose something. Here's Webster on piracy:
That sounds much less like theft to me.
Mind you, I am not saying the principle of copyright is wrong. But if you ask me, plagiarism is far worse.
I still think we are going to far in Canada with the proposed changes. It is madening to think that the reconding companies accept the proceeds of the blank CD tax and at the same time think that making a copy onto that blank CD in the fomat I choose is illegal. Whether the media is used to back up a corporate server or make a disk with photos of my dog, blank CDs in Canada are sold with a levy the goes to the recording industry. As far as I am concerned, each time I buy a blank CD, I have bought every right to make as many copies as I wish. And if that requires circumventing a harware or software protection, I have that right.
I just know my vote makes no difference. Over the last 10 years, every single time I voted, it turned out as expected.
The closest I came to making a difference was a local race where it was decided by 31 votes (I was #31 I guess). That's happened 1 time in 10 years.
The incumbants are never voted out because they are CHOOSING their own voters these days. If we are serious about voting then we need to just divide the states up into squares and stop this gerrymandering crap where you have two pieces of districts connected by a 80 mile long piece of spaghetti-wide line.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
You know what really rocks? That's from a BEER commercial. Yeah, we have our priorities straight. =D
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From the FAQ:
How does a "notice and notice" regime work? How will it help to curb the misuse of the Internet for infringing purposes?
Under the proposed "notice and notice" regime, an ISP will be required to forward any notice it receives from a copyright owner to a subscriber who is alleged to be engaging in infringing activities on-line. The ISP will also be required to retain, for a set period of time, information sufficient to identify the subscriber in question. Through this regime, rights holders will have a mechanism for alerting Internet users that their infringing activities have been detected. In the event that the impugned activities lead to litigation, the record-keeping requirement will better enable identification of the parties alleged to be involved.
So, as I understand it, ISPs are now required to be able identify their customers. Wouldn't preclude free, anonymous wireless hotspots, wouldn't it? Anonymity by paying in cash for dialup would go right out the window, too.
At least in a "notice and takedown" system, it's legal to offer anonymous Internet access...
Grew up adoring our country? You know, that's kinda funny because as an American I grew up thinking pretty positive things about Canada too. Unfortunately most Canadians have shown me a new face in these past few years. As I've grown over the years I better understand the differences between our countries. All I can say to some of you Canadians is this. I'm sure the delusion is sublime - that you're better than your neighbor. However, a day will surface when you'll awaken from your sweet bliss and realize that you're just people too. And for every accusation you've cast upon your neighbors, your hands are just as covered in filth. If you think otherwise - maybe you should reconsider which society in question is brainwashed into a homogonous way of thinking. Right now, I sense a particularly narrow diversity of thought streaming from Canada. The crash may be hard, I recommend awaking sooner than later.
The Swiss have the best form of government, warm sunny summers, cold snowy winters for skiing, and best of all, although cursed with Celine Dion from an early age they managed to come through this nicely and export her to some country with Sh1tty weather.
Someone recommend me a good Canadian webhoster.
I'd like ssh and lots of other goodies.
You're right, we should have a tax on blank media like Canada does. Oh wait. We're better on Canada on that issue already.
Slashdot only pays attention when the US is worse about something. Never when it's better.
Also, I'm assuming that by your statement that you're also in favor of lower taxes, nonexistant consumer protection, eradicating public education, and doing away with social programs, right?
Joke-e-okey, make ME a Canadian!
Joke-e-okey!!! AARRGG!
Damn! You need to take some of your fine Canadian weed and mellow out a bit.
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Why should the elephant know or care what the beaver thinks? You're in the getting fucked by us business.
Sounds like you are believing what the left tells you. Where have we plundered what we want? We turn it back over to the people of that country. As for plundering, why don't you look at the UN and their oil for food program? You sound like you are jelous that we trade with other countries. We do have needs, we pay for them, people are willing to sell to us so what is your problem? Maybe the US should stop selling to Canada? Is that what you want? I don't think you know what you truly want. Isolationism has never worked. Seems like anything good that you want to do there is a lot of opposition to it. Keep it the same. Stop global progress.
We do appreciate Canada's contribution to addressing agression around the world, as we do with France, Germany and many other countries. Sorry about your soldiers, we have bombed our own guys too. That happens and it is unfortunate. I am surprised that you called your own guys not just soldiers but 'fucking' soldiers. Do you have 'fucking' policemen too? 'Fucking' politicians? Unfortunately if you want to live in a relatively safe world, military action is required from time to time. This is similar to police needing to take care of the same thing on a smaller scale.
Your not the only one thinking we are pissing the country away. We do give a shit, that is part of the problem. Everyone is concerned about it and everyone seems to have a different way to save it and everyone elses idea can't possibly work, even if it is the same idea. Our own "environmentalists" that don't want to allow logging even if it means the forest burns up.
heh that got your attention, didn't it ?
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When are you people going to stand up to the pigopolists that are eroding if not defrauding you
of your rights ?
Read your original constitution again
Copyright : 10 years !!!
Sure, I love trashing on the U.S. federal government as much as the next guy. This administration in particular. And I agree that the U.S. tries to bully Canada on a number of issues like beef markets, lumber markets, and drug policy. I don't, however, see where in either of TFAs where the U.S. introduced this legislation into Canada's parliment. I don't recall any news from any article claiming that the U.S. administration was making any statement or taking any position on said legislation.
Perhaps you're getting confused between the U.S. government and large, wealthy corporations based in the U.S. (God knows it's easy to do). It's your various ??AA organizations drafting this legislation for lawmakers, not foriegn governments.
I'm mean really, with such important business as the micro-management of pro baseball and getting involved in some family dispute in Florida, our lawmakers are much too busy to take on legislating Canada right now.
In the US, an ISP must *immediately remove* alleged infringing material when notified.
Under the proposed Canadian bill, an ISP must *notify* the alleged infringer that someone has complained.
You are comparing apples and aeroplanes. As in totally different things.
In the first case, an ISP must remove alleged infringing material - that is STORED ON AN ISP SERVER. If it's a home user, that whole rule doesn't even apply.
Now that second rule applies to everyone, server hosted stuff as well as home users. So while you are marginally better off if you are hosting stuff on a server, you are worse off if you are a home user because they are told they have to store information about you along with the notice of norice thing.
At least that's how I read it.
I agree the server removial thing is eggregious but the home user provision in the Canadian law has the potential to affect a whole lot more users.
So, your entire argument is that because some ISPs are fighting abuse of process, that it's just as good as not having that abuse in the first place?
My argument is because US ISP's can fight and do not nessecarily have to caugh up user data, it is better than being told the information must be stored and communicated to rights holders like little Canadian sheep.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
This _IS_ your southern neighbors DMCA, with only minor changes. Here's your anti-circumvention:
In conformity with the WCT and WPPT, the circumvention, for infringing purposes, of technological measures (TPMs) applied to copyright material would itself constitute an infringement of copyright.
Here's the makings of your device provision:
Copyright would also be infringed by persons who, for infringing purposes, enable or facilitate circumvention
(nb: the "for infringing purposes doesn't help", as circumvention itself is infringment, unlike in the US DMCA where circumvention is a separate offense)
They don't have the hosting takedown provisions, which is a good thing. But other than that, it isn't so different. And they intend to take away the private copying exemption entirely, not just make it futile with the DMCA-like provisions:
The Act's private copying regime provides for an exception to copyright that permits the making of a copy of a sound recording for private use. It also provides for a levy to be paid by manufacturers and importers of blank audio recording media.
Questions have been raised regarding Canada's ability to ratify the WPPT in the absence of changes to the private copying regime. In this context and in light of Internet-related developments which have challenged the private copying regime since its introduction in 1997 (including in the courts), the Government proposes to release a consultation paper on this issue as soon as possible after introducing the bill.
Translated into English: We're taking away the private copying exemption, just not right now. Don't bet your last pair of shorts on the levy going away, though.
I *WANT* to see all future US Presidents have to defend themselves in front of the US Senate.
I don't think that would be terribly effective right about now, where basically the senate is owned by the same party to which the President belongs. A lot of lame-duck questions would be asked, with the answer basically being the party line.
"No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
Please write your MP on this matter. Use my letter below if you don't want to write your own.
d a-cpb/reform/ statement_e.cfm
Send your letter for free (no postage necessary), to your MP at the following address:
[your MP's name] M.P.
House of Commons
Ottawa ON K1A 0A6
Find their email address, but write by paper mail too.
Dear Mr. Breitkreuz
To summarize the issues in this letter:
1. Internet Service Providers should not be required to keep extensive logs of private and legal online communications.
2. The government must not stop Canadian citizens from making personal-use copies of their legally purchased software, music, and movie media.
Background:
http://pch.gc.ca/progs/ac-ca/progs/p
Here is the reasoning:
The purpose of the Copyright Act is to support creativity and innovation in the arts and culture. To design a new Act on the failed and draconian Digital Millenium Copyright Act of the United States of America, would be a disaster for Canadian culture, and innovation. Also our court system could become clogged with law abiding citizens who make personal use copies of their music, software, and movie collections for no personal financial gain. An implementation of the proposed changes to the Copyright Act would unleash another "Gun Registry boondoggle" onto the Canadian people - creating criminals out of law abiding citizens at the expense of Canadian taxpayers.
Internet Service Providers like Sasktel should not be made to keep extensive client usage logs for possible future prosecution by various copyright-based industries. I don't want to pay for that system to be put into effect, and I don't think most people do. The phone companies are not forced by the government to record the content of phone conversations, only police can do that with a proper warrant. ISP logs are going to be equivalent to phone-taps, and that's a violation of my privacy. It's doing the job of the police, and is for the sole benefit of an industry basing its profits on an outdated business model that is no longer realistic for the Canadian government to protect.
It is completely unfair to be paying a levy to artists organizations for purchasing blank CD media to make home-use private copies of legal CD music, and now to also be unable to legally copy the music I've paid for off of Digital Rights Managed CDs. If copying CD music is going to be illegal, why is the government collecting money from the product for an illegal activity? I'm satisfied that the current levy is helping to compensate artists from illegitimate copying, and no new law is required to prevent me and other people from making sensible backups of our legal music, software, and movie collections.
Your representation in the House of Commons on this matter is greatly appreciated by me, and other supporters of personal liberty and innovation in the arts. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
my name
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You've quoted me out of context. I never said you plundered. The OP said the US would take Canada's water resourcces if and when they needed it. I was simply asking him if that's really what what he thought. As for my colourful adjectives, well, I think our entire population simultaneously said "What, they bombed our fucking soldiers?" when they heard the news. C'est la vie.
We thank you once again for the beer commercial. NEXT!
Bye bye private copying.
You're absolutely correct. The marijuana plant has never caused any harm to anyone. What has caused harm are people who use it as a component of evading responsibility in their lives, and misguided prohibitions trying to save those people from the consequences of their own irresponsible choices. Unfortunately, prohibition demonstrably has caused more harm than marijuana ever caused. This is why a different approach is necessary. Unfortunately, the victims of prohibition are sent up the river, so we never get to hear their opinion on the matter, only that of law enforcement and politicians attempting to prop up the status quo.
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