If the author of the original article had spent a bit more time checking Microsoft's latest 10-K filing with the SEC he'd have noticed that they already *do* accept Linux as both a competitor and threat.
Is this just another OSDN literary masturbation session?
Probably much the same as most people feel about wine. Sure, it gets better after it ages a looooooong time, but it's still little more than rotting fruit juice.
Why is it that so many articles and comments here (and in humanity in general) have to break down to the "My country is better than your country." crap. It's like the Mac/PC or Windows/Linux flame wars.
Each country has it's strong and week points. Yes, I know you commented on that, but why bother with the post at all since the parent stated quite clearly that the fastest was in another country. Seems to me that was an admission straight out that the US is behind in this particular area.
Admitting a weakness is merely an opportunity to improve on it.
I call bullshit - since when has.NET been the best tool for the job? Have you not heard of Perl, Ruby, Python and even Java?
Call BS all you want man. Choosing a language is subjective. This guy picked.NET because it worked best for him. Yes I've heard of all those languages and I still chose.NET for my organization. I've also heard that Spanish seems to work very well in certain parts of the world, I still haven't learned that language either. Mostly because I have no desire to, but hey, that's just me.
I'm also not LOCKED into MS. Yes, I can move to linux should I choose to--of course I'd have to get that near abortion of mono installed and screw with it for 6 months of sundays to get everything running, then recode the application to run on it, but hey it could be done.
I choose.NET in my environment because it works, it works well enough and because I don't CARE what runs the back end. I'm not going to lock myself into linux or any other operating system for religious reasons. Personally I'm 80% linux in my home environment, but nearly 90% MS in my corporate environment. It just works and I'm not up for changing until I get a compelling technical (read: not religious-ish) reason.
It doesn't work like that. You can't say "oh.net is slow so performance doesn't matter to people using it."
Especially when comparing it to java. I use.NET and sure, it does have marked performance issues in some areas--notably load time for the app. Still it doesn't compare to the grinding load times and performance of java. I'll be flamed and told I didn't give java a good enough chance so I'll ask the question now before it's even asked. "How long is long enough?" and "Why should I bother in the first place?"
you clicked on a link in a post's header... then regurgitated it as a post yourself. Not only is that really lame, but extremely managerial.
I don't give a rats ass if the guy is lying, or telling the truth. *MUCH* of what he said is very good advice for an aspiring IT professional that hopes to grow into management. Some of it's bullshit, but that's part of life.
Posting easily accessible (a single click on a URL and 2 minutes reading is easily accessible) is just plain lame.
Slashdot has a strong influence, and it needs to start using that influence responsibly.
While I agree (and support) 99% of what you said in your post, that one short line I do not agree with.
Why is it that somebody or something that gains influence is now almost obligated to make use of it in the most responsible (accepted) way? They did their thing. We [the community] made Slashdot what it is today; not the editors. If you latch onto most of the posts about this you'll see that the folks that come here tend to arrive for the comments, not the articles. I've seen some great threads come out of totally lame articles.
For me it's just that concept that if I have influence, I have to use it responsibly? Maybe I choose to not use it at all, or use it to further my own agenda? Morally altruistic? no. human? yep!
They might unleash a software package to diagnose diseases, or a mouse that gives you scheduled vaccinations.
Not before you validate your genetic structure with the Microsoft Genetic Advantage Tool. Have your identification and DNA map ready before hitting the site.
Hrm.. Maybe they can come up with a Q doc for stupidity? Nah, it would just wind up being released with the next DRM patches.
I'm by no means claiming that it inevitably happens. I'm sure there are very honest scientists out there (the vast majority) who honestly believe in the work their doing and are trying to do it in the very best way possible.
This is strictly conjecture on my part, so take it for what it's worth. Scientists are human (or so I'm lead to believe) and as such are lead to try to prove or disprove something they believe in. That's a good part of science to begin with. I've always understood that it starts with a hypothesis and you work from there. Nobody likes to be wrong and will work vehemently to prove themselves right.
Much like the person that spends a lot of time browsing the medical symptoms websites, eventually they'll find a symptom of some largely fatal and rare disease and panic themselves into a fit over it. If you look long enough you'll find some sort of evidence to prove or disprove what you believe in.
It's very easy to hit the web and find information that proves the global warming theory. That's an accepted theory. So is the ability to search the web and find information that discredits that theory http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=global+warmin g+discredited. I'm not trying to start a flamefest here because it's obvious there are people in both camps who feel extremely strong about the subject. I'm just saying that if you look hard enough you'll find something to both prove and disprove a theory. Human nature is going to cause us to apply less credence to something that goes against our beliefs than one that supports it.
Personally I'm up in the air about the whole thing. I don't know enough about the situation to make an informed decision so I try to look at all sides of it. On the other hand, being a cynical human myself I'm certainly not going to take somebody's word for it just because they're a learned professional--especially when other people/groups are offering contradictory information as well.
Like.. erm.. forming an opinion based on personal morals or political beliefs and then applying for grants to pay for the search to find abberations in nature that support your opinion, while ignoring anything that may or may not be contrary to it?
Yes, I'm cynical. I don't believe research papers anymore.
Can't believe you said "best tool". You're a tool dude. A dumb droning Microsft tool. Open your eyes dude, take the red pill.
You did awesome right up to that. Your arguements were concise, well thought out and even coherent. I didn't agree with some of them, but hey, that's what's cool about being reasonable.
Then you blew it with the last line. You dragged yourself down to the slashdot level and showed your true colors making the balance of your post irrelevent. Now I can't be sure that you meant what you said or just regurgitated something you read elsewhere. *sigh*
you still have to pay the 12 yr old to let you use the computer at the library. If you don't he'll sit there updating his website all day long. It's really crazy, but it seems that Southtrust Bank really likes to hire outside people to run their websites.
If you didn't note the sarcasm in this post, move along now. Nothing to see here. Do *NOT* click reply.
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If the author of the original article had spent a bit more time checking Microsoft's latest 10-K filing with the SEC he'd have noticed that they already *do* accept Linux as both a competitor and threat.
Is this just another OSDN literary masturbation session?
All of Slashdot was waiting with baited breath to see what you had to say...
that's the best you could come up with?
belay that last. Must stop posting before my coffee has been completely consumed.
*bashes head into the wall*
Slow Down Cowboy!
Slashdot requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.
It's been 17 years, 9 days, 14 hours and 1 minute since you last successfully posted a comment
Who is this cowboy you speak of?
Maybe if you didn't think things like that are trolling you still would.
wow that was a great big reach to compare open to closed source.
You've restored my faith in the movement.
Probably much the same as most people feel about wine. Sure, it gets better after it ages a looooooong time, but it's still little more than rotting fruit juice.
Why is it that so many articles and comments here (and in humanity in general) have to break down to the "My country is better than your country." crap. It's like the Mac/PC or Windows/Linux flame wars.
Each country has it's strong and week points. Yes, I know you commented on that, but why bother with the post at all since the parent stated quite clearly that the fastest was in another country. Seems to me that was an admission straight out that the US is behind in this particular area.
Admitting a weakness is merely an opportunity to improve on it.
oh...
and what's with this "I call bullshit" junk all the sudden (past few months)
is this like some new kinda slashdot prick waving contest?
Call BS all you want man. Choosing a language is subjective. This guy picked
I'm also not LOCKED into MS. Yes, I can move to linux should I choose to--of course I'd have to get that near abortion of mono installed and screw with it for 6 months of sundays to get everything running, then recode the application to run on it, but hey it could be done.
I choose
Especially when comparing it to java. I use
wtf?!?
you clicked on a link in a post's header... then regurgitated it as a post yourself. Not only is that really lame, but extremely managerial.
I don't give a rats ass if the guy is lying, or telling the truth. *MUCH* of what he said is very good advice for an aspiring IT professional that hopes to grow into management. Some of it's bullshit, but that's part of life.
Posting easily accessible (a single click on a URL and 2 minutes reading is easily accessible) is just plain lame.
This might be a slightly overly geeky response, but what about Tokin Ring??
It's been replaced by the upgraded Token Ring.
Or at the very least moderate the story down so low that it falls off the front page.
something like (-5 Lame)
Slashdot has a strong influence, and it needs to start using that influence responsibly.
While I agree (and support) 99% of what you said in your post, that one short line I do not agree with.
Why is it that somebody or something that gains influence is now almost obligated to make use of it in the most responsible (accepted) way? They did their thing. We [the community] made Slashdot what it is today; not the editors. If you latch onto most of the posts about this you'll see that the folks that come here tend to arrive for the comments, not the articles. I've seen some great threads come out of totally lame articles.
For me it's just that concept that if I have influence, I have to use it responsibly? Maybe I choose to not use it at all, or use it to further my own agenda? Morally altruistic? no. human? yep!
They might unleash a software package to diagnose diseases, or a mouse that gives you scheduled vaccinations.
Not before you validate your genetic structure with the Microsoft Genetic Advantage Tool. Have your identification and DNA map ready before hitting the site.
Hrm.. Maybe they can come up with a Q doc for stupidity? Nah, it would just wind up being released with the next DRM patches.
::with eyes rolling and tongue planted firmly in cheek::
For a more comprehensive--and slightly skewed--view of the US and world in general, might I suggest a site something like this?
that would be a draft beer yes?
I'm by no means claiming that it inevitably happens. I'm sure there are very honest scientists out there (the vast majority) who honestly believe in the work their doing and are trying to do it in the very best way possible.
n g+discredited. I'm not trying to start a flamefest here because it's obvious there are people in both camps who feel extremely strong about the subject. I'm just saying that if you look hard enough you'll find something to both prove and disprove a theory. Human nature is going to cause us to apply less credence to something that goes against our beliefs than one that supports it.
This is strictly conjecture on my part, so take it for what it's worth. Scientists are human (or so I'm lead to believe) and as such are lead to try to prove or disprove something they believe in. That's a good part of science to begin with. I've always understood that it starts with a hypothesis and you work from there. Nobody likes to be wrong and will work vehemently to prove themselves right.
Much like the person that spends a lot of time browsing the medical symptoms websites, eventually they'll find a symptom of some largely fatal and rare disease and panic themselves into a fit over it. If you look long enough you'll find some sort of evidence to prove or disprove what you believe in.
It's very easy to hit the web and find information that proves the global warming theory. That's an accepted theory. So is the ability to search the web and find information that discredits that theory http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=global+warmi
Personally I'm up in the air about the whole thing. I don't know enough about the situation to make an informed decision so I try to look at all sides of it. On the other hand, being a cynical human myself I'm certainly not going to take somebody's word for it just because they're a learned professional--especially when other people/groups are offering contradictory information as well.
Try to understand what the word "science" means
Like.. erm.. forming an opinion based on personal morals or political beliefs and then applying for grants to pay for the search to find abberations in nature that support your opinion, while ignoring anything that may or may not be contrary to it?
Yes, I'm cynical. I don't believe research papers anymore.
You did awesome right up to that. Your arguements were concise, well thought out and even coherent. I didn't agree with some of them, but hey, that's what's cool about being reasonable.
Then you blew it with the last line. You dragged yourself down to the slashdot level and showed your true colors making the balance of your post irrelevent. Now I can't be sure that you meant what you said or just regurgitated something you read elsewhere. *sigh*
whoa! that's bordering on being considered a keyboard.
not until we slashdot websense.
I think we need a day of appreciation for the person that has to clean the pepsi I just sprayed out of my nose.
Good job! If I had mod points you'd have them.
Sadly I lost my bippie during the Mac/PC wars. It was awful. What's a bippie worth these days?
you still have to pay the 12 yr old to let you use the computer at the library. If you don't he'll sit there updating his website all day long. It's really crazy, but it seems that Southtrust Bank really likes to hire outside people to run their websites.
If you didn't note the sarcasm in this post, move along now. Nothing to see here. Do *NOT* click reply.