Evolution is a theory, not a law, and holds the same weight as any other theory. So, how many fish have turned into humans? How many apes have turned into humans? You're kidding, right? This is a troll? Please tell me this is a troll. Because I don't think any scientist (Darwinist, Creationist, any serious -ist) has EVER tried to imply that fish transmorgify into humans, within a human lifespan, as a result of (for example) "random mutation", and you're trying to imply that this is the whole basis of the "theory" of evolution.
Theory: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Okay, so you've got the definition of "Theory". It applies really nicely to the theory in question. Because, see, when you take the time to learn to learn about the theory, then take some more time to test it*, you'll see that the theory is in fact widely accepted and VERY testable. And it IS BEING USED to make predictions about natural phenomena. Take a look at this to see how silly this argument really is: http://www.idrewthis.org/2005/gravity.html
*(admittedly this would take years if you insist on doing it for yourself, but please feel free to do so)
I have seen repeated evidence that when I or other Christians pray to God, cancer is cured, relationships are healed, and miracles happen. These phenomena have been observed by millions since the beginning of time and recorded in historical texts. Do us all a favor: read these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter _hoc then print up a bunch of copies and share them with your friends. Okay, I know you're not really going to, so here's an example of Regression Fallacy (not a very good one, but I'm at work): The other day, my wife got a 24-hour flu. She breastfed our youngest daughter during the time she was sick. She felt better two days later. Therefore, breastfeeding is a good cure for the flu.
So, where is your fish with legs?? In the fossil record. The legs didn't really work all that well for a while.
Where is your ape with opposable thumbs? Um, you? Chimpanzees? Gorillas? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate Incidentally, they all have fingernails, mammary glands in roughly the same configurations as humans, very similar internal organ structure, the list goes on and on. There are good reasons why they say chimpanzees are closely related to humans, and there are good reasons they say cats are not so. Physiology and behavior are good examples. DNA is another. Though cats have a great deal in common physiologically with humans also.
We have millions of fossils, yet none which prove evolution. We have thousands of pages of scripture (copied millions of times over), plus a super-lucrative worldwide trade in books analyzing said scripture, plus dozens of varieties of ancient mythology to choose from as well, yet none which prove Christianity. So?
It sounds like many have more faith than I to believe in something that has not even been proven to the extent of the Word of God and defend it with such vigor. I simply believe what I have seen in my life, which is evidence of God. It sounds like many have more faith than I to believe in something that has not even been proven to the extent of the Theory of Evolution and defend it with such vigor. I simply believe what I have seen in my life (to which I then applied principles of [Biochemistry, Biology, Logic, Physics, Physiology, Reason,...]), which is evidence of Evolution.
So, when are we going to get our shit together & start up a pro-science, pro-geek lobbying group to sit on Congress' doorstep and bitch at them every day until they sign over a couple extra trillion for science?
Could be the only way we can block these dupe posts.
At first I looked at this & thought that Hasbro had a pretty good case. The C&D itself certainly presents a prima facie argument. Certainly they do own copyrights on the physical game board and the printed rules that come with every Scrabble game.
But then I thought about damages. Here's the thing: It would be absolutely illegal for someone to start making his own scrabble box sets with the name Scrabble on the box and a photocopy of the original rules in the box. So obviously illegal that I'm sure nobody has ever seriously considered trying it.
And if Hasbro could successfully argue that they suffered a loss of sales due to this guy's efforts, the case would be closed pretty dern quickly. I think they would fail to prove this charge. Here's why: it would be extremely unlikely that anyone playing online Scrabble DOES NOT also own a physical Scrabble box set. Perhaps they should take a (real, scientific, not online) survey of those 10,000 online users. I bet there would be about 10 who do not currently own a copy of the game. And 3 more who never have.
The benefit of playing online, I would argue, is clearly NOT to avoid having to buy the box set. The benefit is that you could be more flexible in when to play, and whom. It's a chat room for people who love the game (I have not seen the pre-Slashdot site).
Scrabble players could accomplish the same thing by talking on the phone, on two identical Hasbro-approved boards, like "I placed QUUX vertically connected to your XRAY, Triple Word Score!!". But obviously such game play would suck.
He may end up losing this battle, but it's not like he couldn't put up a fight. And just to be a dick I think he should give up the domain name. He PAID for that (I assume).
Last thought: it's a damn good thing that Chess is in the public domain. I own a $3 plastic chess set, a ~$20 wooden set, and a $150+ marble set, all from different places. I can legally write my own online chess game with no worries at all. These are Good Things.
I'll bite.
Mysql installs & runs on Windows without any third party software. (Yes, the Web really runs on Linux. I know, I know.)
PostGreSQL seems to run on Windows only in emulation (via Cygwin).
Also, there used to be very slight performance differences (in terms of maximum numbers of hits to the DBMS per second, on simple benchmark datasets), and people seem to enjoy the idea that someone the same box could take 20,000+ hits in an hour using Mysql rather than 19,000 on the same hardware using PostGreSQL. This was a couple years ago so could be completely wrong now.
I think there might also be a perception that MySQL is easier to use than PostGreSQL (based, I think, on pronunciation of the name).
Plus, Slashdot uses MySQL.
Those are the reasons I can think of. YMMV.
See, that's the problem. "Someone" forgot to flip the bit. Makes it sound like they weren't sure who was supposed to do it. If the person who was supposed to turn the experiment on had only KNOWN that they were supposed to turn it on, this probably would have been done.
But the historical value would be so greatly increased if they managed to get two paying passengers into space before retiring the vehicle.
I mean, c'mon, there's not even going to be a second SpaceShipOne vehicle (spaceshipone.two?). I guess I don't like that they're obsoleting a proven design so quickly.
I mean really, isn't this supposed to be a community of scientific-oriented people (or at least the kind of people who'd really really enjoy doing this experiment)? Why not do an experiment to PROVE which is more dangerous?
Experiment to determine which is more dangerous:
Materials:
1 standard gas station
1 hydrogen gas station
1 extra-large screwdriver
1 high quality 14 oz. hammer
1 standard cigarette lighter
2 packs Marlboro Reds
Procedure
fill each station with an equivalent amount of fuel (as measured in your favorite unit of total energy, not by weight, volume, etc)
use that hammer and screwdriver to punch a carefully-measured hole in the side of each underground tank
from a predetermined distance, light a cigarrete and toss it in the direction of the leak
walk a predetermined distance closer to the leak. Toss another lit cigarette.
Repeat until the station explodes
Repeat for the other station
It would probably be worthwhile to have things like high-speed cameras, temperature sensors at various distances, sound measuring tools (like a decibel meter if that's a real thing), a seismograph. But these are left up to the experimenters.
other igniters such as electrical sparks, vehicle collisions, solar flares etc might also produce interesting results
If anyone does this or has seen it done, PLEASE post your results!
I guess both. They weren't considering the possibility that computers were good for accomplishing "work".
The lack of LEDs and singing fans as indicators of how powerful and nifty a computer was, seemed to confuse them. Even surfing the Net to show them that yes this tiny machine was doing real computing work didn't help my case.
The client/server model was super-foreign to them as well, being exclusively Windows users all their lives (what I was trying to show them was that we could upgrade the SERVER anytime we wanted, and the thin CLIENTS would last years and years without upgrades), and they lost interest quickly enough that the lesson was gone and we moved on to other things.
My thought was that maybe they planned to make the PSU *not* hot. It can be done with enough engineering effort, especially if the power requirements are low. What part of a box runs hottest? the CPU, not the PSU. Because temperature is a function of heat energy and volume (among other factors). PSU's have considerably more volume (among other factors).
The CPU is not upwind of any capacitors.
FYI I studied Computer Electronics Engineering before working five years in IT, then becoming a teacher, and I am currently a full-time programmer.
I respectfully disagree. The cool air is coming in the bottom, blowing out the top. Nice fan design, can't remember the name of the "donut" fans as opposed to the normal "flat" ones...
It may just be possible that the apple guys intentionally built the thing for *low power consumption* which will translate to *low heat emission*, which means the thing might not run so darn hot that it burns itself out after all.
As I often failed to teach my high school hardware classes, more heat disspiation (fans) does not make a computer better (sort of like more Mhz didn't really mean more performance-- at least not linear increases). More fans just mean more noise.
Picture this if you will. I set up a computer lab in a round concrete room (echoes like crazy). I made the kids shut off all the Wintel boxen and hooked up an LTSP diskless workstation just to show them how much better it is NOT to have so much noise (the server was in the next room). Thing used like 30 watts, booted in no time, and made NO noise. The fucking kids couldn't comprehend that it was easier to get things done on this machine (KDE vs. Windows arguments ignored for this discussion-- they were using Netware-crippled windows so it's not like they could do anything but run Office/internet)
[Yes if you didn't notice, I'm comparing the guy who thinks the iMac will burn out to my high school students who thought computers have to be noisy.]
At least notice that the fans on the new iMac run at variable speeds, so after the thing's heated up for a while, they will kick in.
Same big disappointment I found when I learned Dell was supposed to be working with Linux.
When I click Customize, the stupid site did NOT give me the option of changing the Operating System. It's hardcoded as Windows XP (here was the first clue: it's an ASP page....
It's possible that I may have looked in the wrong place.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?Pr od uctLineId=430&FamilyId=1776&jumpid=re_R2515_store/ smProdCat/PSG/notebooks/HP_nx5000_notebook
Anyone else have any luck actually trying to order this thing?
Slashdot Mirror
"Filing Cabinet Syndrome" Discuss.
Evolution is a theory, not a law, and holds the same weight as any other theory. So, how many fish have turned into humans? How many apes have turned into humans?
...]), which is evidence of Evolution.
You're kidding, right? This is a troll? Please tell me this is a troll. Because I don't think any scientist (Darwinist, Creationist, any serious -ist) has EVER tried to imply that fish transmorgify into humans, within a human lifespan, as a result of (for example) "random mutation", and you're trying to imply that this is the whole basis of the "theory" of evolution.
Theory: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
Okay, so you've got the definition of "Theory". It applies really nicely to the theory in question. Because, see, when you take the time to learn to learn about the theory, then take some more time to test it*, you'll see that the theory is in fact widely accepted and VERY testable. And it IS BEING USED to make predictions about natural phenomena.
Take a look at this to see how silly this argument really is: http://www.idrewthis.org/2005/gravity.html
*(admittedly this would take years if you insist on doing it for yourself, but please feel free to do so)
I have seen repeated evidence that when I or other Christians pray to God, cancer is cured, relationships are healed, and miracles happen. These phenomena have been observed by millions since the beginning of time and recorded in historical texts.
Do us all a favor: read these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter _hoc then print up a bunch of copies and share them with your friends.
Okay, I know you're not really going to, so here's an example of Regression Fallacy (not a very good one, but I'm at work):
The other day, my wife got a 24-hour flu.
She breastfed our youngest daughter during the time she was sick.
She felt better two days later.
Therefore, breastfeeding is a good cure for the flu.
So, where is your fish with legs??
In the fossil record. The legs didn't really work all that well for a while.
Where is your ape with opposable thumbs?
Um, you? Chimpanzees? Gorillas? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate Incidentally, they all have fingernails, mammary glands in roughly the same configurations as humans, very similar internal organ structure, the list goes on and on. There are good reasons why they say chimpanzees are closely related to humans, and there are good reasons they say cats are not so. Physiology and behavior are good examples. DNA is another. Though cats have a great deal in common physiologically with humans also.
We have millions of fossils, yet none which prove evolution.
We have thousands of pages of scripture (copied millions of times over), plus a super-lucrative worldwide trade in books analyzing said scripture, plus dozens of varieties of ancient mythology to choose from as well, yet none which prove Christianity. So?
It sounds like many have more faith than I to believe in something that has not even been proven to the extent of the Word of God and defend it with such vigor. I simply believe what I have seen in my life, which is evidence of God.
It sounds like many have more faith than I to believe in something that has not even been proven to the extent of the Theory of Evolution and defend it with such vigor. I simply believe what I have seen in my life (to which I then applied principles of [Biochemistry, Biology, Logic, Physics, Physiology, Reason,
However, in the end, we will
Blue LED's hadn't been invented yet when this story was news.
Well, the marketing folks I work with were talking about using "unplugged" as their new buzzword, but I talked em out of it. :)
So, when are we going to get our shit together & start up a pro-science, pro-geek lobbying group to sit on Congress' doorstep and bitch at them every day until they sign over a couple extra trillion for science?
Could be the only way we can block these dupe posts.
I meant to say he should NOT give up the domain name. Again, just to be a dick.
At first I looked at this & thought that Hasbro had a pretty good case. The C&D itself certainly presents a prima facie argument. Certainly they do own copyrights on the physical game board and the printed rules that come with every Scrabble game. But then I thought about damages. Here's the thing: It would be absolutely illegal for someone to start making his own scrabble box sets with the name Scrabble on the box and a photocopy of the original rules in the box. So obviously illegal that I'm sure nobody has ever seriously considered trying it. And if Hasbro could successfully argue that they suffered a loss of sales due to this guy's efforts, the case would be closed pretty dern quickly. I think they would fail to prove this charge. Here's why: it would be extremely unlikely that anyone playing online Scrabble DOES NOT also own a physical Scrabble box set. Perhaps they should take a (real, scientific, not online) survey of those 10,000 online users. I bet there would be about 10 who do not currently own a copy of the game. And 3 more who never have. The benefit of playing online, I would argue, is clearly NOT to avoid having to buy the box set. The benefit is that you could be more flexible in when to play, and whom. It's a chat room for people who love the game (I have not seen the pre-Slashdot site). Scrabble players could accomplish the same thing by talking on the phone, on two identical Hasbro-approved boards, like "I placed QUUX vertically connected to your XRAY, Triple Word Score!!". But obviously such game play would suck. He may end up losing this battle, but it's not like he couldn't put up a fight. And just to be a dick I think he should give up the domain name. He PAID for that (I assume). Last thought: it's a damn good thing that Chess is in the public domain. I own a $3 plastic chess set, a ~$20 wooden set, and a $150+ marble set, all from different places. I can legally write my own online chess game with no worries at all. These are Good Things.
I'll bite. Mysql installs & runs on Windows without any third party software. (Yes, the Web really runs on Linux. I know, I know.) PostGreSQL seems to run on Windows only in emulation (via Cygwin). Also, there used to be very slight performance differences (in terms of maximum numbers of hits to the DBMS per second, on simple benchmark datasets), and people seem to enjoy the idea that someone the same box could take 20,000+ hits in an hour using Mysql rather than 19,000 on the same hardware using PostGreSQL. This was a couple years ago so could be completely wrong now. I think there might also be a perception that MySQL is easier to use than PostGreSQL (based, I think, on pronunciation of the name). Plus, Slashdot uses MySQL. Those are the reasons I can think of. YMMV.
See, that's the problem. "Someone" forgot to flip the bit. Makes it sound like they weren't sure who was supposed to do it. If the person who was supposed to turn the experiment on had only KNOWN that they were supposed to turn it on, this probably would have been done.
Send ME up there, for one...
But the historical value would be so greatly increased if they managed to get two paying passengers into space before retiring the vehicle.
I mean, c'mon, there's not even going to be a second SpaceShipOne vehicle (spaceshipone.two?). I guess I don't like that they're obsoleting a proven design so quickly.
Materials:
1 standard gas station
1 hydrogen gas station
1 extra-large screwdriver
1 high quality 14 oz. hammer
1 standard cigarette lighter
2 packs Marlboro Reds
Procedure
It would probably be worthwhile to have things like high-speed cameras, temperature sensors at various distances, sound measuring tools (like a decibel meter if that's a real thing), a seismograph. But these are left up to the experimenters.
other igniters such as electrical sparks, vehicle collisions, solar flares etc might also produce interesting results
If anyone does this or has seen it done, PLEASE post your results!
Yep, it looks like this site was tested on IE only.
I officially don't like that site now.
I guess both. They weren't considering the possibility that computers were good for accomplishing "work".
The lack of LEDs and singing fans as indicators of how powerful and nifty a computer was, seemed to confuse them. Even surfing the Net to show them that yes this tiny machine was doing real computing work didn't help my case.
The client/server model was super-foreign to them as well, being exclusively Windows users all their lives (what I was trying to show them was that we could upgrade the SERVER anytime we wanted, and the thin CLIENTS would last years and years without upgrades), and they lost interest quickly enough that the lesson was gone and we moved on to other things.
My thought was that maybe they planned to make the PSU *not* hot. It can be done with enough engineering effort, especially if the power requirements are low. What part of a box runs hottest? the CPU, not the PSU. Because temperature is a function of heat energy and volume (among other factors). PSU's have considerably more volume (among other factors). The CPU is not upwind of any capacitors. FYI I studied Computer Electronics Engineering before working five years in IT, then becoming a teacher, and I am currently a full-time programmer.
I respectfully disagree. The cool air is coming in the bottom, blowing out the top. Nice fan design, can't remember the name of the "donut" fans as opposed to the normal "flat" ones...
Sorry, I gotta interject.
It may just be possible that the apple guys intentionally built the thing for *low power consumption* which will translate to *low heat emission*, which means the thing might not run so darn hot that it burns itself out after all.
As I often failed to teach my high school hardware classes, more heat disspiation (fans) does not make a computer better (sort of like more Mhz didn't really mean more performance-- at least not linear increases). More fans just mean more noise.
Picture this if you will. I set up a computer lab in a round concrete room (echoes like crazy). I made the kids shut off all the Wintel boxen and hooked up an LTSP diskless workstation just to show them how much better it is NOT to have so much noise (the server was in the next room). Thing used like 30 watts, booted in no time, and made NO noise. The fucking kids couldn't comprehend that it was easier to get things done on this machine (KDE vs. Windows arguments ignored for this discussion-- they were using Netware-crippled windows so it's not like they could do anything but run Office/internet)
[Yes if you didn't notice, I'm comparing the guy who thinks the iMac will burn out to my high school students who thought computers have to be noisy.]
At least notice that the fans on the new iMac run at variable speeds, so after the thing's heated up for a while, they will kick in.
Same big disappointment I found when I learned Dell was supposed to be working with Linux.
r od uctLineId=430&FamilyId=1776&jumpid=re_R2515_store/ smProdCat/PSG/notebooks/HP_nx5000_notebook
When I click Customize, the stupid site did NOT give me the option of changing the Operating System. It's hardcoded as Windows XP (here was the first clue: it's an ASP page....
It's possible that I may have looked in the wrong place.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?P
Anyone else have any luck actually trying to order this thing?
Wait! Hey! Maybe the pattern will be that the Later episodes will be BETTER.
Over optimistic at best, but I'd prefer that pattern.
Just don't let Lucas direct. Or write. I guess we can let him produce some of the visuals....
- Lower price means I can afford more shares, before the price starts going up
- Fewer shares being sold means that I own a larger percentage of the company, per share I own
Both seem like good news to me