I always wondered what would happen to the show "Beyond 2000" when 2000 finally got here. Well after 2000 the show still ran on for a bit, wasn't as popular though. Now I think it's off the air.
I think that technology doesn't amaze people as much anymore as it used to. I'm still waiting for those flying cars to hit the market. Maybe they'll be introduced once electric cars die out.
I would of thought with all the powerful telescopes they have and with several orbiters that have travelled throughout the solar system that these kinds of discoveries would of been made decades ago? I thought that there was nothing more to discover in our solar system other than exploring planets and moons - not discovering new ones. Does mean astronomy is still in it's very immature stages? It might be hard to measure that due to the [unknown] size of the universe and limited space travel.
I'm usually on irc and writing ppl for people and src for source is a habit. So are all the other irc abbreviations. I suppose the == was a bad thing too? This is slashdot, it says news for _nerds for a reason you insensitive clod. Your probably one of those business types.
Maybe there is a legal loophole that allows them to do it because of religious reasons? I hope and doubt not. Now there's one for the courts.
If ppl can strap dynamite around their waist a blow ppl up at a cafe or crash planes into buildings for religious reasons (okay that's debatable), then I'm sure there are ppl out there who would allow doctors to use their body to perform cloning in secrecy for religious reasons too. When they claim to of succeeded it can't be confirmed until a govt agency investigates too.
The scary thing about cults is that they have total control and are well funded. In many regards cults and islamic militant groups are not too dissimilar.
I wouldn't put too much weight on what they Raelians say, this is a publicity stunt and I wouldn't be surprised if the Scientologists were saying the same. There definition of a cloned human probably follows their guidelines too and not scientifically sound.
In my neighorhood for quite some time the Raelians have been trying to recruit ppl. They drive around in this van with sparkling stickers - kind of like a moving target. I got one of their fliers one day and had quite chuckle. I don't think they are too far off Scientologists either. There is some info on the Raelians here.
There have been more advertised meteor showers in the past few years. You see, space agencies and other people who live off astronomy need to advertise this type of stuff to make a living. They also spread mass hysteria and paranoia over 'asteroids hitting the earth' to sell documentaries to the discovery channel and ask for more funding. Ever since the schumacher-levy 9 comet breaking up and slamming into Jupiter this sort of stuff has been widespread. I'm still yet to see anything "spectacular" that has ever been announced - but probably because of my location, such as meteor showers that are about to dazzle us. Every time I go out I see nothing. Remember, you can see streaks of light in the sky any night of the week.
It seems your for making things non-technical, such as linux. Until you accomplish such a task - reading the manual stays. I was talking about programming and applying knowledge to a task actually - not surfing the net, reading email and playing games. Besides I don't know any car that doesn't come with a manual - you picked a pretty bad example. "I wonder what petrol this car takes, well let's just pick one and see", "How do I put water in the radiator?","Where does the oil go?" - Gee thats complicated, I'm not buying that car going back to riding my bike.
I think that attitude is one of the prime obstacles of putting Linux on the desktop
Putting linux on the desktop might be one of your aims but it isn't one of mine, besides, it is there already to a degree. Comparing linux to windows doesn't do you any favours either. I recently installed redhat 8, and although I think they have done a fine job 'dumbening' the interface down for capturing an ex-windows user new to the linux scene, it can't say I'm a big fan of un-dumbening it. Besides, redhat is a company for profit and it is in their best interests to gain a market.
Unless you've done some coding or any technical work in your time, those docs are obviously not for you - unless you read them you would of realized that. Still, asking a question already answered in a book/manual already available is akin to not looking before you leap.
I don't know what there is to think about, please explain. There are ppl who don't read manuals that end up asking too many questions that could of been answered reading the manual. I merely pointed out the 'asking smart questions' because I'm sick and tired of getting asked 'dumb questions' that could of been answered without annoying anyone ie, reading the manual. RTFM comes into play here.
I think the extent of 'reading' is where the confusion may lay. Of course the extent of reading depends on the task at hand and the person. Books weigh differently in terms of subject matter and depending on who wrote it. Of course reading a book on how to write a letter is nearly ridiculous, reading a book on kernel hacking or building a rocket is not enough.
Nobody should be required to pick up a manual and read through hundreds of pages before they're able to use something.
Err yes they should and that goes for anything technical. Reading and training are essential but practice is most important. We're not learning to ride a bike here. I think what your trying to say is that reading a book on programming isn't going to make you a good programmer because it won't. Often I see ppl ask dumb questions that could be solved by typing in a man command. I think the absolute first thing any newbie should read are these 2 documents ->
I used to love the days of playing sonic and wonder boy all weekend on a master system - also had a game gear. Other than playing these games for 'remember the good old days' purposes this is a poor man's console. The console probably costs next to nicks to manufacture and the games are already there, probably an idea that won't cost much and will sell in time for christmas.
My point is, that if your a business man with no knowledge of technology your going to start listening to Bill Gates first. Business men like to listen to the world's richest man (or thereabouts) because he is successful and must be doing something right (apparently). OTOH there goes an old saying, hire a rich lawyer but don't by from a rich salesman.
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I always thought it was if you play with fire you eventually get burnt.
wget has served well.
I always wondered what would happen to the show "Beyond 2000" when 2000 finally got here. Well after 2000 the show still ran on for a bit, wasn't as popular though. Now I think it's off the air.
I think that technology doesn't amaze people as much anymore as it used to. I'm still waiting for those flying cars to hit the market. Maybe they'll be introduced once electric cars die out.
The fun part is when you get out the lighter.
I would of thought with all the powerful telescopes they have and with several orbiters that have travelled throughout the solar system that these kinds of discoveries would of been made decades ago? I thought that there was nothing more to discover in our solar system other than exploring planets and moons - not discovering new ones. Does mean astronomy is still in it's very immature stages? It might be hard to measure that due to the [unknown] size of the universe and limited space travel.
I'm usually on irc and writing ppl for people and src for source is a habit. So are all the other irc abbreviations. I suppose the == was a bad thing too? This is slashdot, it says news for _nerds for a reason you insensitive clod. Your probably one of those business types.
Maybe there is a legal loophole that allows them to do it because of religious reasons? I hope and doubt not. Now there's one for the courts.
If ppl can strap dynamite around their waist a blow ppl up at a cafe or crash planes into buildings for religious reasons (okay that's debatable), then I'm sure there are ppl out there who would allow doctors to use their body to perform cloning in secrecy for religious reasons too. When they claim to of succeeded it can't be confirmed until a govt agency investigates too.
The scary thing about cults is that they have total control and are well funded. In many regards cults and islamic militant groups are not too dissimilar.
Heh, reckon if illegal immigrants were Scandanavian blondes they'll be deported? Deport some over here.
I wouldn't put too much weight on what they Raelians say, this is a publicity stunt and I wouldn't be surprised if the Scientologists were saying the same. There definition of a cloned human probably follows their guidelines too and not scientifically sound.
In my neighorhood for quite some time the Raelians have been trying to recruit ppl. They drive around in this van with sparkling stickers - kind of like a moving target. I got one of their fliers one day and had quite chuckle. I don't think they are too far off Scientologists either. There is some info on the Raelians here.
This is great. But for every legal victory there is over spam or p2p software doesn't this setup for another legal loophole to be found?
There have been more advertised meteor showers in the past few years. You see, space agencies and other people who live off astronomy need to advertise this type of stuff to make a living. They also spread mass hysteria and paranoia over 'asteroids hitting the earth' to sell documentaries to the discovery channel and ask for more funding. Ever since the schumacher-levy 9 comet breaking up and slamming into Jupiter this sort of stuff has been widespread. I'm still yet to see anything "spectacular" that has ever been announced - but probably because of my location, such as meteor showers that are about to dazzle us. Every time I go out I see nothing. Remember, you can see streaks of light in the sky any night of the week.
Not me, other ppl. Someone once asked me 'where does the water go' and I couldn't believe it myself.
It seems your for making things non-technical, such as linux. Until you accomplish such a task - reading the manual stays. I was talking about programming and applying knowledge to a task actually - not surfing the net, reading email and playing games. Besides I don't know any car that doesn't come with a manual - you picked a pretty bad example. "I wonder what petrol this car takes, well let's just pick one and see", "How do I put water in the radiator?","Where does the oil go?" - Gee thats complicated, I'm not buying that car going back to riding my bike.
I think that attitude is one of the prime obstacles of putting Linux on the desktop
Putting linux on the desktop might be one of your aims but it isn't one of mine, besides, it is there already to a degree. Comparing linux to windows doesn't do you any favours either. I recently installed redhat 8, and although I think they have done a fine job 'dumbening' the interface down for capturing an ex-windows user new to the linux scene, it can't say I'm a big fan of un-dumbening it. Besides, redhat is a company for profit and it is in their best interests to gain a market.
Unless you've done some coding or any technical work in your time, those docs are obviously not for you - unless you read them you would of realized that. Still, asking a question already answered in a book/manual already available is akin to not looking before you leap.
I don't know what there is to think about, please explain. There are ppl who don't read manuals that end up asking too many questions that could of been answered reading the manual. I merely pointed out the 'asking smart questions' because I'm sick and tired of getting asked 'dumb questions' that could of been answered without annoying anyone ie, reading the manual. RTFM comes into play here.
well which comes first, 'man X' or 'man man'?
I think the extent of 'reading' is where the confusion may lay. Of course the extent of reading depends on the task at hand and the person. Books weigh differently in terms of subject matter and depending on who wrote it. Of course reading a book on how to write a letter is nearly ridiculous, reading a book on kernel hacking or building a rocket is not enough.
Jealousy whore - post something useful for once in your life.
Nobody should be required to pick up a manual and read through hundreds of pages before they're able to use something.
Err yes they should and that goes for anything technical. Reading and training are essential but practice is most important. We're not learning to ride a bike here. I think what your trying to say is that reading a book on programming isn't going to make you a good programmer because it won't. Often I see ppl ask dumb questions that could be solved by typing in a man command. I think the absolute first thing any newbie should read are these 2 documents ->
Asking smart questions
How to report bugs effectively
Here are some sites you will find useful which are going beyond newbie level.
/ rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/unix-faqm /autobook/ (automake autoconf book)n elnewbies.org (kernel info)a t/booksIndex.html
www.linuxdoc.org (Linux documentation project)
www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book (linux device drivers 2nd edition)
www.advancedlinuxprogramming.com
ftp:/
sources.redhat.co
www.scyld.com/network (network device drivers)
linuxassembly.org
linuxsocket.org
ker
freebooks.boom.ru
www.maththinking.com/bo
I used to love the days of playing sonic and wonder boy all weekend on a master system - also had a game gear. Other than playing these games for 'remember the good old days' purposes this is a poor man's console. The console probably costs next to nicks to manufacture and the games are already there, probably an idea that won't cost much and will sell in time for christmas.
nothing in /usr/src/linux/Documentation where it ought to be.
How is this Informative? This is common sense.
My point is, that if your a business man with no knowledge of technology your going to start listening to Bill Gates first. Business men like to listen to the world's richest man (or thereabouts) because he is successful and must be doing something right (apparently). OTOH there goes an old saying, hire a rich lawyer but don't by from a rich salesman.
Okay, I'm laying claim to this one since I made it up, along with the Scotch and Vanilla Coke beverage at the bar.