"A different story entirely from the gist of TFA, which is GUIs in a sysadmin context, of course"
Yep! It's a different context, but at some level they're related. You hit the nail on the head. All too often I wind up in a battle of the wits with Word and Excel. They both break or act inconsistently all too often.
I hear you. I expected to see many people complaining about exactly that when I loaded the comments.
But, at some point it says something that this is still true in 2010. Many would love to see the CLI go the way of the dinosaur, but that seems pretty naive.
In most of my professional life, if there's an OSS alternative the OSS alternative is usually better. LateX is more professional than Office, in my opinion. I prefer the look and repeatability of gnuplot over Excel. Python is much more extensible than VBA. SQLite and python really helped me clean data for my professional paper, as well.
Granted, I'm using Microsoft Office in addition to the aforementioned (except LateX).
If a company is so restrictive and intrusive that they can't take a couple crazy, sleep-deprived 3 am posts maybe they're not the best place to work?
From the company's point of view, any information they can gather on a potential employee is helpful. I just hope who ever uses that type of service is wise enough to not take it too, too seriously.
I have to agree. You can't simultaneously ask for someone's opinion and dictate that opinion. You're only fooling yourself if you try to do both.
I also think it's important to let people have contrasting opinions. He's entitled to his opinion. Besides, he might have just been angry at the world that night. Who hasn't had a bad day and wound up generally disagreeable?
There's probably a couple different camps on why they didn't ship with two mice buttons from the start. I've always bought more into the "simplicity is best" camp. You'll have a hard time convincing me they skipped the second mouse button for purely aesthetic reasons. At the end of the day, we're just arguing over the intention of some mega-corporation, and what's it really matter.
Some interesting points: 1.) How often do you *need* to right click on a web page to do something the keyboard or another UI element can't do? 2.) HTML5 (AFAIK) can replace Flash. Making that argument with one, two, or 9 button mice requires user discomfort.
Back when Apple stopped shipping floppy drives with their computers just about 99% of 'manufactured' computers shipped with floppy drives. People said Apple was moving too fast. Now, a decade or so later, floppies have gone the way of the dinosaur.
There's probably quite a lot to make that analogy faulty. But I think Apple isn't holding anything randsom. They're just knowingly not supporting (what they see to be) old software.
Where are those people who oppose the war now? We're still at war in Afghanistan, and yet those people have all but disappeared. Oh because it is THEIR guy running the war it must be okay.
Obama lied, and people died!
1.) You're quoting Republican talking points. I have a hard time believing your comments are not politically biased when you do so.
2.) Obama ran on a "surge in Afghanistan because that's the war we should be fighting" platform. (Note: I'm paraphrasing what his platform was.) He also ran on a platform of ending the Iraq war. He's lived up to those promises, for all intents and purposes. (There are still 50,000 non-combat troops in Iraq, but he's winding down things in Iraq and surging them in Afghanistan.)
I'm sure the people who wanted Obama to end both wars immediately aren't exactly pleased with what he's doing. If they're pragmatic, though, they will appreciate his efforts. There will always be people unhappy with whatever decisions are made. A good number of those people will also be in the President's own party. But if the antiwar rallies are any less passionate now, it's most likely caused by Obama's actions toward ending war.
I suggest you read "Q.E.D." by Richard Feynman. Light always travels in a vacum from one atom to another at the speed c. Bouncing around such as light does, information in a processor never travels at c. c is a very high, upper bound until we can get quantum entanglement under our grasp.
...because a survey conducted by only one website of people self selecting into the survey is science done well.
You might as well conclude that people who understand logic have fewer sexual partners. (Because a false statement always implies a true or false statement.)
Yep, the government has a monopoly on governing. How dare they! What revolutionary war gave THEM the right? (...oh, right...)
US capitalism seems to breed oligopolies. AFAIK it's been a while since the Sherman Antitrust Act was actually used - and even longer since it was used effectively. I doubt governing internet megapowers less is going to give the public more choices. The idea is flawed, at face value. The concept of the argument seems only naively pallapable (or worse).
If someone's making an argument or statement that 'appears informed' then they're implicitly stating they have enough knowledge to make an informed argument or statement.
I see your point, but I think it's superfluous.
Can we at least agree that the professionals should be let to do their professional duty?;) I don't know if I could cut it as a lawyer. I look at everything as an axiomatic system with derived statements.
Upon hearing the judgement, I thought the same. It seems the court is just looking to lynch the accused's financial life. I can't help but feel that's excessive.
I'm pretty sure judgements are binding beyond bankruptcy. There's simply no getting away from that debt (presumably for good reason).
Law isn't the only profession/discipline everybody things they know (or - worse - 'should' know).
I constantly hear gruff from people who think economists are all liars and don't know what they're talking about. I'd bet every profession and discipline has to suffer this problem.
Get rid of speed limits and design roads that have some twists and turns.
aka Try and make driving more fun that it currently is. There's always going to be that element of society that just can't judge what the right speed for a stretch of road is. But twists and turns *demand* a certain speed limit inherently. I'm sure I'm going to get whiney comments about why my suggestion is impractical for anywhere but Germany. But I would hope there'd be some out there willing to take the mental experiment.
I agree. Last I heard, they only enforced IP rights when non-Chinese companies infringed (or appeared to infringe) upon a Chinese company's IP.
Anyone know if China's still doing that? (with references)
"A different story entirely from the gist of TFA, which is GUIs in a sysadmin context, of course"
Yep! It's a different context, but at some level they're related. You hit the nail on the head. All too often I wind up in a battle of the wits with Word and Excel. They both break or act inconsistently all too often.
I hear you. I expected to see many people complaining about exactly that when I loaded the comments.
But, at some point it says something that this is still true in 2010. Many would love to see the CLI go the way of the dinosaur, but that seems pretty naive.
In most of my professional life, if there's an OSS alternative the OSS alternative is usually better. LateX is more professional than Office, in my opinion. I prefer the look and repeatability of gnuplot over Excel. Python is much more extensible than VBA. SQLite and python really helped me clean data for my professional paper, as well.
Granted, I'm using Microsoft Office in addition to the aforementioned (except LateX).
Yes, how ever naive the sentiment is how ever careful a worker should be on the internet...
If a company is so restrictive and intrusive that they can't take a couple crazy, sleep-deprived 3 am posts maybe they're not the best place to work?
From the company's point of view, any information they can gather on a potential employee is helpful. I just hope who ever uses that type of service is wise enough to not take it too, too seriously.
I have to agree. You can't simultaneously ask for someone's opinion and dictate that opinion. You're only fooling yourself if you try to do both.
I also think it's important to let people have contrasting opinions. He's entitled to his opinion. Besides, he might have just been angry at the world that night. Who hasn't had a bad day and wound up generally disagreeable?
There's probably a couple different camps on why they didn't ship with two mice buttons from the start. I've always bought more into the "simplicity is best" camp. You'll have a hard time convincing me they skipped the second mouse button for purely aesthetic reasons. At the end of the day, we're just arguing over the intention of some mega-corporation, and what's it really matter.
Some interesting points:
1.) How often do you *need* to right click on a web page to do something the keyboard or another UI element can't do?
2.) HTML5 (AFAIK) can replace Flash. Making that argument with one, two, or 9 button mice requires user discomfort.
Back when Apple stopped shipping floppy drives with their computers just about 99% of 'manufactured' computers shipped with floppy drives. People said Apple was moving too fast. Now, a decade or so later, floppies have gone the way of the dinosaur.
There's probably quite a lot to make that analogy faulty. But I think Apple isn't holding anything randsom. They're just knowingly not supporting (what they see to be) old software.
Where are those people who oppose the war now? We're still at war in Afghanistan, and yet those people have all but disappeared. Oh because it is THEIR guy running the war it must be okay.
Obama lied, and people died!
1.) You're quoting Republican talking points. I have a hard time believing your comments are not politically biased when you do so.
2.) Obama ran on a "surge in Afghanistan because that's the war we should be fighting" platform. (Note: I'm paraphrasing what his platform was.) He also ran on a platform of ending the Iraq war. He's lived up to those promises, for all intents and purposes. (There are still 50,000 non-combat troops in Iraq, but he's winding down things in Iraq and surging them in Afghanistan.)
I'm sure the people who wanted Obama to end both wars immediately aren't exactly pleased with what he's doing. If they're pragmatic, though, they will appreciate his efforts. There will always be people unhappy with whatever decisions are made. A good number of those people will also be in the President's own party. But if the antiwar rallies are any less passionate now, it's most likely caused by Obama's actions toward ending war.
I think parent should be modded down.
Tom made a good point. Archangel doesn't make a good point.
Just what do they own, exactly? i.e. Could I buy vi?
Sure, I'll chip in $5 toward vi. Think we'll win?
I suggest you read "Q.E.D." by Richard Feynman. Light always travels in a vacum from one atom to another at the speed c. Bouncing around such as light does, information in a processor never travels at c. c is a very high, upper bound until we can get quantum entanglement under our grasp.
...because a survey conducted by only one website of people self selecting into the survey is science done well.
You might as well conclude that people who understand logic have fewer sexual partners. (Because a false statement always implies a true or false statement.)
Yep, the government has a monopoly on governing. How dare they! What revolutionary war gave THEM the right? (...oh, right...)
US capitalism seems to breed oligopolies. AFAIK it's been a while since the Sherman Antitrust Act was actually used - and even longer since it was used effectively. I doubt governing internet megapowers less is going to give the public more choices. The idea is flawed, at face value. The concept of the argument seems only naively pallapable (or worse).
What's the truth about Led Zeppelin?!
Fan since high school (about 13ish years), so I'm hoping you're not just puffin smoke. (Sorry I'm OT.)
Your QM is a couple semesters ahead of mine. I appreciate the insight though, and think parent should be modded up!
If someone's making an argument or statement that 'appears informed' then they're implicitly stating they have enough knowledge to make an informed argument or statement.
I see your point, but I think it's superfluous.
Can we at least agree that the professionals should be let to do their professional duty? ;) I don't know if I could cut it as a lawyer. I look at everything as an axiomatic system with derived statements.
Upon hearing the judgement, I thought the same. It seems the court is just looking to lynch the accused's financial life. I can't help but feel that's excessive.
I'm pretty sure judgements are binding beyond bankruptcy. There's simply no getting away from that debt (presumably for good reason).
Law isn't the only profession/discipline everybody things they know (or - worse - 'should' know).
I constantly hear gruff from people who think economists are all liars and don't know what they're talking about. I'd bet every profession and discipline has to suffer this problem.
How reputable a journal is Apeiron?
I'm glad you pointed that out. People 3 states over could hear my jaw hitting the ground as I read that statement.
Oh, for the love of god, I hope you're right!
Unfortunately, I think companies interested in finding EVERYTHING out about their potential employees would fund it just to keep it around.
Get rid of speed limits and design roads that have some twists and turns.
aka Try and make driving more fun that it currently is. There's always going to be that element of society that just can't judge what the right speed for a stretch of road is. But twists and turns *demand* a certain speed limit inherently. I'm sure I'm going to get whiney comments about why my suggestion is impractical for anywhere but Germany. But I would hope there'd be some out there willing to take the mental experiment.