How much is the average computer geek (notice the word 'geek', as I'm about to assume they are the type to install an OS on their own) willing to spend on that legal license of Mac OS X?
They could very easily charge the non-Apple hardware crowd MORE than they charge their Apple hardware customers. This would help them differentiate the market. The technical details are, of course, going to be hopped across by your average, driven computer geek. But those barriers wont be broken by less sophisticated customers.
Apple currently charges 130 for a full version of OS Snow Leopard. Would you be willing to pay another $200 for those Atom drivers? How about $300, and make the OS cost a full $430?
My point is this: Sure, they could easily release an OS for the masses. An OS that dell could license to put on their built to order machines and so forth. Further, they would need to subsidize the added cost of 'supporting' so many new combinations of hardware. Suddenly Mac OS X isn't just $130, it's probably a lot more like the going rate for Windows 7. The price is actually probably more simply because Microsoft's OS has years of experience in dealing with driver conflicts and other nasties caused by awkward combinations of hardware.
(Granted, the *nix/mach underpinning of OS X should make it less suspectible to said problems. This point could be less than I expect.)
Speed of reading and writing depend upon the 'user.' My cursive is very fast to write and read. It's also completely illegible to almost everyone but myself. An added benefit of the prior being that I can read just about anyone's "chicken scratch".
In fact, if I have to write something, I usually write the first draft by hand. Keyboards just kill my creativity.
But, really, imagine the headlines of some 'new' technology that could let you do all of that with any degree of reliability:
-Perfectly convey your thoughts (be they complex mathematical equations, drawings, or written word) -The ability to 'encrypt' what you've written so either everyone can read it or almost no one. -Is always 'on' and 'available' regardless of internet connectivity, local power grid, and so on.
...what part of it sounds like it's from the Ministry of Truth?
I mean, really. I've worked with data from a myriad of sources and I can guarantee you that the US government supplied data is by far the cleanest, most unbiased stuff out there. (And, no, no one's going to have the resources to estimate national GDP going back a century and a half other than the US government.)
No, you don't pay $500 more for a name. You pay more (definitely less than $500 more) for someone to: a.) build the machine for you b.) make sure the parts work with one another WELL for you c.) not have to deal with borked CPUs, HSFs, uneven arctic silver, and so on, ad nausium d.) design and INSTALL an OS that puts Microsoft windows to the trash and manages to keep pace with Linux e.) make an alternative to Linux that has more drivers (hey, it's an old hat, but it's not going away)
Personally, if a person isn't in the market for an Apple machines, so be it. There's absolutely no reason that there should be 'one correct' platform for computing.
After I graduated with my brand, spanking new BS in Math, I initially worked for Office Depot as a "customer service specialist" - the lowest of the low.
I'd say that's pretty far from "reality tv generation" narcissism. But, then, I've never been big on reality tv.
I do understand where this poster is coming from here. I've seen first hand, even at that Office Depot job, people my age 'expecting' more than they ought to expect.
Being hopeful is important...but more so is working hard and being ambitious (but not arrogant).
My favorite's, by far, TNG. TNG, Voyager, and DS9 stand out at the top (I dig TOS, but its quirks make me dig it for slightly different reasons). Why must we go back into the backstory of Trek? We should move forward. Isn't MOVING FORWARD what the Trek universe is all about? Thought so.
As a complete aside. Some of my favorite episodes involve The Q. I think it'd be amazing to have a series around them. I'm sure the stories involving them are far too outlandish for the mundane viewing public, of course.
I've heard about this kind of thing in the past. I didn't realize they had working programs, though.
I have to admit, of course, that this does somewhat scare me. After all, it would seem they're going after the usefulness of my Bachelor's of Science!;) (NOTTTTTTTTT)
I see what you're saying. Honestly, I would love the idea of my user accounts not being able to do anything but exactly that - use the machine (not make any system changes). But, ultimately, user processes have to at some point interact with root processes through apis and such. So, to some extent, you're always going to have the potential for a problem.
Unless Steve Jobs had his goons rig up a virtualization scheme whereby when a user logged in they were, in effect, 'booting' into a virtual machine. It could be cluggy, but I bet there's a way to do it right.
I honestly agree. Everyone should be held to the same metric. Well, except those with bonefide learning disabilities. (Though, those are frequently over diagnosed, as well...don't get me started on that end.)
At the end of the day, though, there will always be that element that simply copies, by hand, what others have done. In many cases that's very easy to get away with because the solutions are, by nature, very similar.
What made this case so horrible is he was obviously gearing up for grade fixing en masse. That's when he starts to be more like an organized crime boss and less like a bored student.
Listen, kid, I went through college the old, honest way. I never cheated, unlike you, and of course my GPA wasn't that great, as a result. There were plenty of times where I could have cheated and I know that others did. It's simply very easy when they give take home tests and finals for groups of people to work on the same thing. They never got called on the carpet and I stayed very well away from anything that looked like that. (This is probably my main beef with engineers, btw.)
But I graduated with my integrity intact. Which is obviously a metric ton more than you'll ever be able to say.
So you got caught for doing a more high tech version of what I avoided all through college. 38 years might look like a lot, but considering what you came within arms reach of doing, it ought to be 80.
No one wants a BS in Math now a days. Not even the gubbament's think tank, Darpa, apparently.
But, even still, when I graduate in 09 with my MA in Econ. I'll have much more lucrative and personally interesting things to be doing. Or Ph D in Econ. school;)
Yes, yes he is. Only academics and fools look that intently upon graduates from 'big name' schools.
Bottom line, a hiring manager wants to hire someone who will do their job and add to the overall work environment. A smelly CS major (and I swear to god they're the smelliest of them all) with no to bad social skills and a seriously elevated ego isn't going to fit in anywhere but his mother's basement.
But, really, consider that a little bit. If you get out of the 'easy' classes in college (which those really are) you'll have less classes to weight your gpa when the horse manure really hits the fan in the junior and especially senior level classes. You might get out quicker, sure, but why?
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How much is the average computer geek (notice the word 'geek', as I'm about to assume they are the type to install an OS on their own) willing to spend on that legal license of Mac OS X?
They could very easily charge the non-Apple hardware crowd MORE than they charge their Apple hardware customers. This would help them differentiate the market. The technical details are, of course, going to be hopped across by your average, driven computer geek. But those barriers wont be broken by less sophisticated customers.
Apple currently charges 130 for a full version of OS Snow Leopard. Would you be willing to pay another $200 for those Atom drivers? How about $300, and make the OS cost a full $430?
My point is this: Sure, they could easily release an OS for the masses. An OS that dell could license to put on their built to order machines and so forth. Further, they would need to subsidize the added cost of 'supporting' so many new combinations of hardware. Suddenly Mac OS X isn't just $130, it's probably a lot more like the going rate for Windows 7. The price is actually probably more simply because Microsoft's OS has years of experience in dealing with driver conflicts and other nasties caused by awkward combinations of hardware.
(Granted, the *nix/mach underpinning of OS X should make it less suspectible to said problems. This point could be less than I expect.)
Speed of reading and writing depend upon the 'user.' My cursive is very fast to write and read. It's also completely illegible to almost everyone but myself. An added benefit of the prior being that I can read just about anyone's "chicken scratch".
In fact, if I have to write something, I usually write the first draft by hand. Keyboards just kill my creativity.
But, really, imagine the headlines of some 'new' technology that could let you do all of that with any degree of reliability:
-Perfectly convey your thoughts (be they complex mathematical equations, drawings, or written word)
-The ability to 'encrypt' what you've written so either everyone can read it or almost no one.
-Is always 'on' and 'available' regardless of internet connectivity, local power grid, and so on.
"The design flaw that is Rock Band"
...what part of it sounds like it's from the Ministry of Truth?
I mean, really. I've worked with data from a myriad of sources and I can guarantee you that the US government supplied data is by far the cleanest, most unbiased stuff out there. (And, no, no one's going to have the resources to estimate national GDP going back a century and a half other than the US government.)
A /. post I can USE!
PS: The data you get from the US government is infinitely more reliable than from any other country out there. Need I say: China?
One econ to who appears to be another, good show, sir!
I agree completely and you managed to explain 'thinking on the margin' in a way that the /. crowd SHOULD understand!
No, you don't pay $500 more for a name. You pay more (definitely less than $500 more) for someone to:
a.) build the machine for you
b.) make sure the parts work with one another WELL for you
c.) not have to deal with borked CPUs, HSFs, uneven arctic silver, and so on, ad nausium
d.) design and INSTALL an OS that puts Microsoft windows to the trash and manages to keep pace with Linux
e.) make an alternative to Linux that has more drivers (hey, it's an old hat, but it's not going away)
Personally, if a person isn't in the market for an Apple machines, so be it. There's absolutely no reason that there should be 'one correct' platform for computing.
After I graduated with my brand, spanking new BS in Math, I initially worked for Office Depot as a "customer service specialist" - the lowest of the low.
I'd say that's pretty far from "reality tv generation" narcissism. But, then, I've never been big on reality tv.
I do understand where this poster is coming from here. I've seen first hand, even at that Office Depot job, people my age 'expecting' more than they ought to expect.
Being hopeful is important...but more so is working hard and being ambitious (but not arrogant).
My favorite's, by far, TNG. TNG, Voyager, and DS9 stand out at the top (I dig TOS, but its quirks make me dig it for slightly different reasons). Why must we go back into the backstory of Trek? We should move forward. Isn't MOVING FORWARD what the Trek universe is all about? Thought so.
As a complete aside. Some of my favorite episodes involve The Q. I think it'd be amazing to have a series around them. I'm sure the stories involving them are far too outlandish for the mundane viewing public, of course.
All of my music starts life in CD form.
Snobby, sure, but no digital format's outpaced the old standards, and I doubt any will.
They're already hard to read. Why do I feel that soon I wont be able to read ANY of them!?
I've heard about this kind of thing in the past. I didn't realize they had working programs, though.
I have to admit, of course, that this does somewhat scare me. After all, it would seem they're going after the usefulness of my Bachelor's of Science! ;) (NOTTTTTTTTT)
Somewhere my alma mater's Dr Shaffer's enjoying this :)
Just switch to Mac and get parallels :P
Yeah, I know, not very funny. But does every comment have to be great?
Dude, my best friend does this! Is your first name...Matt?
I see what you're saying. Honestly, I would love the idea of my user accounts not being able to do anything but exactly that - use the machine (not make any system changes). But, ultimately, user processes have to at some point interact with root processes through apis and such. So, to some extent, you're always going to have the potential for a problem.
Unless Steve Jobs had his goons rig up a virtualization scheme whereby when a user logged in they were, in effect, 'booting' into a virtual machine. It could be cluggy, but I bet there's a way to do it right.
How do you think that'd be for security?
I honestly agree. Everyone should be held to the same metric. Well, except those with bonefide learning disabilities. (Though, those are frequently over diagnosed, as well...don't get me started on that end.)
At the end of the day, though, there will always be that element that simply copies, by hand, what others have done. In many cases that's very easy to get away with because the solutions are, by nature, very similar.
What made this case so horrible is he was obviously gearing up for grade fixing en masse. That's when he starts to be more like an organized crime boss and less like a bored student.
Yep, you're right. Which makes his efforts on that end utterly pointless.
Listen, kid, I went through college the old, honest way. I never cheated, unlike you, and of course my GPA wasn't that great, as a result. There were plenty of times where I could have cheated and I know that others did. It's simply very easy when they give take home tests and finals for groups of people to work on the same thing. They never got called on the carpet and I stayed very well away from anything that looked like that. (This is probably my main beef with engineers, btw.)
But I graduated with my integrity intact. Which is obviously a metric ton more than you'll ever be able to say.
So you got caught for doing a more high tech version of what I avoided all through college. 38 years might look like a lot, but considering what you came within arms reach of doing, it ought to be 80.
Thanks ;) Don't know why you were 'trolled', sorry about that.
No one wants a BS in Math now a days. Not even the gubbament's think tank, Darpa, apparently.
;)
But, even still, when I graduate in 09 with my MA in Econ. I'll have much more lucrative and personally interesting things to be doing. Or Ph D in Econ. school
I completely agree! And, no, I'm not posting anonymously! First Amendment right, BUSH!
Yes, yes he is. Only academics and fools look that intently upon graduates from 'big name' schools.
Bottom line, a hiring manager wants to hire someone who will do their job and add to the overall work environment. A smelly CS major (and I swear to god they're the smelliest of them all) with no to bad social skills and a seriously elevated ego isn't going to fit in anywhere but his mother's basement.
Wow...I agree hands down! I agree because I went to NMT - a tech school - and I certainly don't look back and laugh out loud, enough.
:)
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But, really, consider that a little bit. If you get out of the 'easy' classes in college (which those really are) you'll have less classes to weight your gpa when the horse manure really hits the fan in the junior and especially senior level classes. You might get out quicker, sure, but why?