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SCO Puts Unix Assets On the Block

itwbennett writes "SCO Group announced Thursday that it plans to auction off most of its Unix assets, including 'certain UNIX system V software products and related services,' ITworld reports. 'This asset sale is an important step forward in ensuring business continuity for our customers around the world,' said Ken Nielsen, SCO chief financial officer, in a statement. 'Our goal is to ensure continued viability for SCO, its customers, employees and the Unix technology.' Interested parties must submit a bid for the assets by Oct. 5."

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  1. Can they do that? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought Novel owned Unix and only licensed it to SCO, and that was already settled. How can they sell Unix if they don't own it?

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    1. Re:Can they do that? by spun · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They didn't say they own Unix, this time. They said they own Unix technologies and "certain UNIX system V software products and related services." Meaning, SCO Unix. Anyway, the news here is that they are officially not any sort of software or technology company anymore, they are now officially nothing more than a shambling, undead lawsuit factory. I suppose the one guy who still licenses anything SCO related will be happy they are selling his support contract to someone else.

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    2. Re:Can they do that? by mark72005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're about to sue Linus Torvalds, after which they will own everything. (maniacal laughter)

    3. Re:Can they do that? by JDmetro · · Score: 2, Informative
    4. Re:Can they do that? by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


      I think "it it plans to auction off most of its Unix assets" means they plan to sell off their O'Reilly books on eBay.

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    5. Re:Can they do that? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Informative

      Spun wrote

      They didn't say they own Unix, this time.

      Press Release says

      Even as it continues to battle for Unix ownership in court, the SCO Group plans to auction off most all of its Unix assets, including "certain UNIX system V software products and related services,"

      Yes they are certainly still claiming ownership of Unix.

      A Judge enjoin them from selling anything while the lawsuits against them are adjudicated.

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    6. Re:Can they do that? by spun · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gah! Really?!? You mean to tell me you actually read the article? My God, what has Slashdot come to? We do not read articles here. Here, we make uninformed and inflammatory comments about the poorly written and factually incorrect summary, mister.

      Seriously though, thanks for pointing that out. Ownership of the generic trade name "Unix" and copyright is something different from ownership of SCO Unix. But still, if the judge enjoined them from selling anything, I don't see how they can legally do this.

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    7. Re:Can they do that? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know I know. My Bad.

      I've been around almost as long as you, I should know better. Can I chalk it up to being a newbie??? ;)

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    8. Re:Can they do that? by spun · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure thing, six digits. :)

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    9. Re:Can they do that? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      I've write "Linux system software products" for fun and provide "related services". Meaning I write little scripts and stuff and some of my friends try them out, and sometimes they ask me about them.

      Doesn't mean I own linux.

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    10. Re:Can they do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except prepaid support contracts are liabilities.

    11. Re:Can they do that? by KlomDark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whoa, look, there ARE still a few of us 4-digit people around! :)

    12. Re:Can they do that? by EQ · · Score: 2, Funny

      More of you 4 digits than us 5 digits, I think. Seems our attrition rate is higher.

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    13. Re:Can they do that? by ImprovOmega · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, the Unix trademark is owned by The Open Group. You can't call your OS Unix without going through them. The argument SCO was trying to make was that AT&T sold the original Unix source tree copyrights to Novell (which did happen - Novell paid ~$300 million for it), but that then Novell turned around and sold the copyrights to SCO (which did *not* happen - the deal with SCO was for ~$50 million about 2-3 years after the AT&T deal). Instead, SCO actually bought rights to develop and market their own version of Unix (called Unixware) and access to a number of distribution channels, plus kickbacks for collecting Unix licensing revenues for Novell (SCO got 5% as an administrative fee).

      Of course, everything was cool until about 8 years after the original agreement, after the company changed hands about 3 times and new management took over. At which point Darl McBride and company started jumping up and down screaming "WE OWN UNIX!!" and suing/threatening to sue everyone and their mother. The nonsensical litigation dragged on for these past 7 years, with IBM and Novell being the primary players (Novell has judgments in their favor declaring that they do, in fact, own the Unix copyrights - SCO is appealing, naturally).

      At this point in our sad, sad story, SCO is in chapter 11 bankruptcy (and has been for over three years) with a trustee now running things. Because the lawyers are pre-paid through all litigation and appeals, it looks good on paper to continue the litigation lottery in hopes of getting some settlement to shut up. Of course, IBM has a point to prove, and the Unix copyrights are worth too much to Novell to suffer an adverse judgment, so SCO will get nothing there.

      Anyway, with that backstory told, my point is that the bankruptcy judge hasn't enjoined them from anything, in fact he's approved the terms of the auction. So there is no legal hurdle to prevent them from doing this. Though it is definitely a case of "caveat emptor" because the buyer may end up with a whole lot of nothing when all is said and done.

    14. Re:Can they do that? by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 2, Funny

      I almost want to say "get off my lawn"...

    15. Re:Can they do that? by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2

      More of you 4 digits than us 5 digits, I think. Seems our attrition rate is higher.

      I've always been sorta curious...did any of the 3, 4, or 5 digit slashdot users managed to breed. If so, do your offspring surf slashdot?
      Do they have digits 6 to 10 digit range?
      Have you left your sub-six-digit username and password to your children in your will?

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    16. Re:Can they do that? by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Of course, everything was cool until about 8 years after the original agreement, after the company changed hands about 3 times

      Worse than that - SCO sold UnixWare to Caldera. SCO then renamed themselves Tarentella and Caldera renamed themselves [T]SCO[G]

      1. AT&T sells Unix to Novell.
      2. Novell sells some rights to SCO (but not "Unix" whatever the hell that imaginary property consists of by then).
      3. SCO sell those rights and some other junk to Caldera.
      4. Caldera ([T]SCO[G]) claim they own Unix. They don't.

      Now [T]SCO[G] wants to sell whatever they bought from SCO (Tarantella).

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    17. Re:Can they do that? by forrie · · Score: 1

      At this point in time, I wonder what the ultimate value is of keeping the original UNIX source code closed. I think Novell and whomever else has an IP interest here should sign-off on the entire UNIX V distribution into open source, with an appropriately open license, and be done with this legal BS once and for all. Such action should cover all bases, so that some idiot with a "derivative" can't come forth and pull another SCO suit. It's been nothing but a pain in the entire tech world's backside since this all started...

      In fact, I don't know anyone in the industry that's actually using real UNIX V code in production anymore. Where is their alleged niche?

    18. Re:Can they do that? by EQ · · Score: 1

      2 of my 3 have /. IDs. My middle son has a 7 digit ID here. Eldest (daughter) had a high 6 digit ID, but grew away from tech (she's an RN, eventually MS-N and NP if I can help pay for the grad school) and truthfully, she got kinda tired of the juvenile male crap that went on here. Youngest thinks S::N here is so poor its not worth the time to post, plus he is deployed (Afghanistan) at the moment so connectivity is a bit difficult.

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    19. Re:Can they do that? by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      Our death has been somewhat exaggerated.

    20. Re:Can they do that? by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      In fact, I don't know anyone in the industry that's actually using real UNIX V code in production anymore.

      Be careful with the terminology. Unix V was the first VM implementation of Unix and I don't think anyone uses it any more. It ran on ancient DEC equipment (early Vaxen IIRC). In terms of standard naming, think of Unix V == Version 5 or 5th Edition.

      The only significant (mis)feature of System V was Streams, and nobody sane uses that any more. The SVID mostly codified existing practice.

      Solaris is like the spiritual descendant of System V. How much of the original System V from around the time of the AT & T break up remains, I don't know. I've never had a source license to anything other than System V/386 (which was R3).

    21. Re:Can they do that? by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      ... but you surface only when fate of unix is discussed.

    22. Re:Can they do that? by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      As a matter of fact, I did manage to breed! :)

      Daughter's 20 now (I got started a bit young), and although she's read a few articles here, she's never signed up.

      My boy (almost 7) is still a bit young for posting on the net. But he DOES have his own Ubuntu box, so I'm doing my part to corrupt him into the geek order. :)

    23. Re:Can they do that? by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      Go ahead ya old geezer! :) (Did they even have lawns when you were a kid?)

  2. don't forget to pay your $699 license fee by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Funny

    you cocksmoking teabaggers!

    1. Re:don't forget to pay your $699 license fee by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sheesh, the mods have short memories and/or no sense of humour.

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    2. Re:don't forget to pay your $699 license fee by bsDaemon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yeah, or maybe a post comprised entirely of "you cocksmoking teabaggers" is just sort of trollish?

    3. Re:don't forget to pay your $699 license fee by cmiller173 · · Score: 2, Funny

      The subject line "don't forget to pay your $699 license fee" is part of the post ... and the joke.

    4. Re:don't forget to pay your $699 license fee by bsDaemon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Yeah, the post subject was the joke, and was mildly amusing. The post body could just as easily have been in any thread and still probably been off topic, if not trollish. Just sayin'.

  3. $699 ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do unto others ...

  4. Microsoft Should Buy Them by smartin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They could use a decent operating system to sell

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    1. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by mark72005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Too bad Microsoft is infringing on no fewer than eleventy billion SCO patents too.

      We're finding places where, line by line, they have stolen code that we stole from someone else!

    2. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Enry · · Score: 5, Informative

      I see you're not familiar with Xenix.

    3. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If you weren't aware, they're currently selling Windows 7, a decent operating system.

    4. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, Microsoft was a concerned enough corporate citizen that they were the FIRST to pay big money to acquire a license to said technology. That was even before SCO found the money to start all the lawsuits, ironically.

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    5. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by kimvette · · Score: 1

      SCO Unix used to be Microsoft Xenix.

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    6. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably even before SCO had the idea to sue anyone, actually.

    7. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      When did Xenix become decent? It is 21 years out of date...

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    8. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In many ways, it's still a better UNIX than Mac OS X currently is.

    9. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent funny!!!

      Best laugh I've had this year... :D

    10. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      I've still got my Xenix programmers manuals.

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    11. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Haha no, it doesn't even have an X server or the GNU toolchain out of box.

    12. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wow. Hmm, if I had to choose between using SCO UNIX or MS Windows, that would be a tough call. I've had to use SCO UNIX on a few projects and just despised the system. Of course, most of that was being cockblocked by missing system components that SCO wanted another $1500 for. By the time you finish getting SCO UNIX fixed up to the point where it's usable (strictly from a user-interface perspective) you may as well have just installed Linux anyway. At least then you'll have a decent packaging system.

      I guess MS could buy the kernel and bundle it with apt, gcc and Windowmaker and sell it as "Windows 8"...

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    13. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cygwin on windows is a better unix than OSX is.

    14. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      I guess MS could buy the kernel and bundle it with apt, gcc and Windowmaker and sell it as "Windows 8"...

      No. Windows 9. Windows 8 is already fully planned out.

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    15. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      What an awesome pick up line!

    16. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always read their willingness to pay differently than you.

      1. MS is so freaking huge that it would be stupid to not pay chump change for the "rights" to a major chunk of worldwide computing technology.

      2. By paying, they "legitimized" SCO's claims and thereby helped to put a big question mark on the viability of Linux.

      3. They were also backdooring money to SCO in furtherance of #2.

      You can spin it any way you want but it was never anything more than racketeering by SCO and MS.

    17. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by jbengt · · Score: 1

      your sarcasm detector appears to be malfunctioning

    18. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'd buy that for a dollar." --some random TV guy from Robocop ...and then sell it to IBM who could do something with it like GPL it.

    19. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why tf would you want sco's outdated junk to be gpl'd...

      to have a laugh at the code?

    20. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      No. Windows 9.

      I think WindowsX has a nicer ring to it.

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    21. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Haha no, it doesn't even have an X server

      And that is bad because...?

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    22. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      I have a dream that someday MS will wise up and split itself. Operating Systems, Office Software, and maybe a few other independent companys. That or maybe MS will wise up and follow Apple down the BSD road. But that won't happen until they split.

      (The more time I spend away from Microsoft servers, the more I'm reminded of the adage - "Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.")

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    23. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by guacamole · · Score: 1
    24. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by coerciblegerm · · Score: 1

      ...and it's the predecessor to SCO Unix. Decency wasn't part of the equation.

    25. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Have you ever used it?

      I haven't but from what I read here is that it made Windows NT 4.0 very popular. It was called SKUNKWare for a good reason. I mean it had symlinks called /usr and /home and they were not even real directories but rather a million different partitions. From what I read it sounds like a nightmare.

      Taco Bell still uses it and this is the only place I seen that still uses it for their 486 servers and registers.

    26. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Um, that was my point, only I added the sarcasm ;)

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    27. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Have you used SCOs abomination that is UNIX? Nowhere decent.

    28. Re:Microsoft Should Buy Them by Enry · · Score: 1

      Oh I used it back in the day ('91). Pure trash when compared to AIX, but did have a few advantages over the other x86-based UNIX systems available at the time *cough*Coherent*cough*

  5. Let's bid on it by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe we could all get together and chip in a buck or two to buy the assets, then open-source the whole thing.

    How does that sound?

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    1. Re:Let's bid on it by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Im game, I would put a few bucks forward for it.

    2. Re:Let's bid on it by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll put in twenty bucks, but only if the deal includes me giving Darl McBride a swift kick in the nuts.

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    3. Re:Let's bid on it by JamesP · · Score: 1

      I would pay just to have the pleasure of firing McBride and the lawyers

      Too bad they're gone

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    4. Re:Let's bid on it by Target+Practice · · Score: 1

      Sounds great. Where's the pot so I can contribute a few dollars? Would the FSF be the ones to do this, or who?

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    5. Re:Let's bid on it by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Like a colossal waste of money.

      Seriously, SCO Unix earned itself a reputation as being fantastically finicky for hardware support ages ago and hasn't had useful development in years. Unlike most commercial Unixes, it's never really had any cutting edge features (unless you consider "runs on x86 hardware" to be cutting edge, which it may have been twenty-odd years ago), so it's hard to imagine what the world might gain from such a thing.

    6. Re:Let's bid on it by Aggrajag · · Score: 1

      Sure why not. I would love to open source Unixware if it is on sale, that is.

    7. Re:Let's bid on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we could all get together and chip in a buck or two to buy the assets, then open-source the whole thing.

      How does that sound?

      You might not be able to open source it, i.e, change the license to some varient of the GPL, but you could abandon or choose not to enforce the existing copyrights although doing that may cause ownership of those rights to revert o the previous owner for enforcement.

      You could offer free licenses.

      Your legal obiigation under the existing licenses might prohibit you from disclosing certain source code, buit you could mistakenly toss it in a dumpster.

      But really, all this to what end? To make available moribund UNIX code that has had little, if any development donr on it? Maybe SCO has some useful admin tools that could be useful, but probably not much else.

    8. Re:Let's bid on it by drfreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not a SCO Unix guru by any stretch of the imagination, but having used it casually for years I don't see anything in it of value which does not already exist in Linux or the BSDs.

      I think Darl McBride had the same thought. In choosing litigation over innovation, to quote the guardian of the Grail in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: "He chose poorly."

    9. Re:Let's bid on it by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Informative

      Unlike most commercial Unixes, it's never really had any cutting edge features (unless you consider "runs on x86 hardware" to be cutting edge, which it may have been twenty-odd years ago)

      Well, 30 years ago Microsoft Xenix supported five users concurrently on an 8086 processor with 512K of RAM. The users connected to serial ports on the box and used dumb terminals. It's a somewhat impressive accomplishment. I still have one of them, an Altos 586.

    10. Re:Let's bid on it by ThorGod · · Score: 1

      Sure, I'll chip in $5 toward vi. Think we'll win?

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    11. Re:Let's bid on it by thogard · · Score: 1

      The only two things of vaule are the Documenters Workbench and some of the developers toolkit.

      The Documenters work bench was the proofing tools for troff and its friends but its has some very good code based on data that only AT&T could afford to collect at the time. Its spellchecker keeps track of the types of mistakes you make and offers guess based on that too. If also had a feature that would reduce the vocabulary based on the type of document so that it would offer a different set of words for a technical document than a marketing one.

    12. Re:Let's bid on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Dude, that's worth at least $100.

    13. Re:Let's bid on it by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Not worth it.

      The only interesting stuff is the bits [T]SCO[G] don't own - the Veritas filesytstem and volume manager.

      You've already seen the kernel - it's mostly the same as Solaris. (Slightly different multiprocessor code. I'd expect that Solaris's is better by now).

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    14. Re:Let's bid on it by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There *is* a business model there, though. SCO Unix sucks by today's standards but is widely used in a number of vertical markets. All of them are ripe for replacement with Linux. Buying the assets and creating an "official" migration path to Linux, supporting and maintaining current users, and turning it into a service company could likely be a decent money maker. SCO was making money before they set out on these ludicrous lawsuits. Their revenue was declining as they refused to embrace Linux, but, well, that's the key, right?

  6. First Bid! by Skjellifetti · · Score: 4, Interesting

    $0. SCO doesn't have any Unix assets.

    1. Re:First Bid! by ByteSlicer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Someone should buy it for $699.

    2. Re:First Bid! by rdavidson3 · · Score: 1

      Or how about OSS community buying the IP assets they tried to claim that they owned through the trials, and once those assets are bought then give them freely to the community.

      I realize that giving money to SCO leaves a bad taste in my mouth and the courts have ruled that there wasn't any infringement to begin with, but at least MS can't use that FUD to curtail companies from using Linux.

      My $0.02.

    3. Re:First Bid! by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      If someone doesn't mod you up in a timely fashion, SCO will sue them for violating their license agreement.

    4. Re:First Bid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they do. All their tools and applications they've developed on UNIX platforms. What they don't have is ownership of the name.

    5. Re:First Bid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too expensive. They should be paying you.

    6. Re:First Bid! by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      It was $699 per processor, so... 0 processors!

    7. Re:First Bid! by sconeu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SCOXQ already has a buyer in mind (probably Yarro), or they wouldn't do this auction.

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    8. Re:First Bid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Someone will, the cock smoking teabagger.

    9. Re:First Bid! by ChefInnocent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe, but this isn't Soviet Russia. So instead we will have:

      1. Buy SCO Unix assests.
      2. ???
      3. Profit!!!

    10. Re:First Bid! by fishexe · · Score: 1

      My $0.02.

      Going once, going twice...Sold!! to the man with the boring slashdot nick!
      Congratulations, your two cents has just bought the right not to be sued by SCO!

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    11. Re:First Bid! by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      "The OSS community" isn't a single entity, and whoever does buy it, they are going to want something in return. IBM or Novell could buy them then GPL them, but what would they get in return? They still have shareholders that deserve to know what the "investment" is going to return.

      This isn't like both companies investing directly into Linux, which was already gaining steam and capturing marketshare. That can be explained as investing in the future. At best, buying the alleged "assets" would nothing more than a defensive move, OR an offensive move if someone wants to try yet again to bludgeon the big Linux players (not likely).

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    12. Re:First Bid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't matter, after the suckers buy whatever they're selling. A few months or years later they'll get sued by SCO.

    13. Re:First Bid! by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      Sadly, there are "Unix" assets. SCO Xenix 1 and 2 and /386 and some other stuff are licensed Unix ports. Not that they work very well. They don't own Unix (as seen in trial by jury, despite SCO's denial), but indeed, they have some licenses. Not that they're worth a plug nickel, but maybe someone might do something with them. Anyone but Larry Ellison.

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    14. Re:First Bid! by jzu · · Score: 1

      I guess you have to put real money on the table for an auction. Like, $1.

    15. Re:First Bid! by mysidia · · Score: 1

      I guess your $0 bid beats my bid of ( - $10 million )

    16. Re:First Bid! by crolix · · Score: 1

      Hmm, more likely:

      1. Profit!!!
      2. Buy SCO Unix assets
      3. ???

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    17. Re:First Bid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're ripping yourself off. Vote lower. :-)

  7. As long as we're selling software we don't own by Zeek40 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would anyone like to buy the rights to OS/2 products systems and services from me?

    1. Re:As long as we're selling software we don't own by mark72005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      As your customer, will you ever-so-graciously promise not to sue me for using Linux?

    2. Re:As long as we're selling software we don't own by Zeek40 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure, but I'm pretty sure there's some infringing code in some version of Windows somewhere. I'm definitely gonna sue you for that one. I mean both operating systems have GUI's, so they must have copied the code straight from my stuff, right?

    3. Re:As long as we're selling software we don't own by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      O noes! Probably!

      May I pay you for protection against lawsuits that you may decide to file against me one day, regardless of their merit?

    4. Re:As long as we're selling software we don't own by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Or you can buy VMS rights from me! All you Windows NT-derived OS users better get out your $699 per processor!

    5. Re:As long as we're selling software we don't own by drfreak · · Score: 1

      I'll even-trade you for NetWare.

  8. $1.73 million by jbeaupre · · Score: 5, Informative

    $1.73 million buys the whole company. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SCOXQ.PK

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    1. Re:$1.73 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That seems a little high. I think it's worth about $1.73.

    2. Re:$1.73 million by haruchai · · Score: 1

      What a waste of $1.73 million that would be. It would be more productive to spend all that money and manure and dump it on the lawn of their HQ.
      That's about the only way to get something to grow out of that patent shill mill.

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    3. Re:$1.73 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering it would take at least $10 million to cover outstanding claims, that puts the value of the Unix assets at $11.73 million.

    4. Re:$1.73 million by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      The company claims that the System V software on the block will be free of any bankruptcy-related liens or encumbrances.

    5. Re:$1.73 million by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      There really isn't much left of that company. I'm not even sure it is worth that, part of their market cap might be speculative. After all they're much more likely to be worth less than 0 after all the lawsuits are settled.

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    6. Re:$1.73 million by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the same company also claims that the Linux kernel contains source code ripped straight from Unix System V. I wouldn't be surprised if they also claimed ownership of the Brooklyn Bridge.

    7. Re:$1.73 million by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the same company also claims that the Linux kernel contains source code ripped straight from Unix System V. I wouldn't be surprised if they also claimed ownership of the Brooklyn Bridge.

      And were planning a lawsuit against the City of New York for use of the bridge without paying appropriate licensing fees.

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    8. Re:$1.73 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      $1.73 million buys the whole company.

      There aren't any shares being sold (Ask N/A), so you can't buy any. You could try putting in a bid, there's none of those either.

    9. Re:$1.73 million by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      What a waste of $1.73 million that would be. It would be more productive to spend all that money and manure and dump it on the lawn of their HQ.
      That's about the only way to get something to grow out of that patent shill mill.

      I have an idea. I work right next to SCO. Their wireless network uses WEP.

      I'm serious.

    10. Re:$1.73 million by evilbessie · · Score: 1

      I'll give you three dolla and fiddy cent for it.

    11. Re:$1.73 million by haruchai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just when I thought my opinion of them couldn't fall any lower.

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    12. Re:$1.73 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have an idea. I work right next to SCO. Their wireless network uses WEP.

      I'm serious.

      Is it feasible that there's *no-one* in the business that realises how stupid this is? Or is it possible that this is a deliberate tactic such that if a smoking gun is found they can suggest that they might have been hacked and the evidence planted?

      Hmm.

  9. They are trying to get bought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This will make their debt the responsebillity of the buyer and not the management, which basically had extortion as a business model.

    Here's for hoping nobody shows any interest whatsoever, so SCO must close its doors. It'll be even better if the SEC starts poking around, because then ties to Microsoft will be exposed and the fireworks can start.

    1. Re:They are trying to get bought by AnonymousClown · · Score: 3, Informative

      This will make their debt the responsebillity of the buyer and not the management

      No it won't. They're only selling the assets and not the business entity. If they were selling the whole SCO enitiy - if someone bought all the outstanding common stock - then you would be correct, IIRC business law.

      If you look at most business sales, the buyer only purchases the assets - includes any trademarks and other IP. Sometimes, as part of the deal, the buyer will take on some of the debt. SCO is in bankruptcy, this is strictly an asset sale and the proceeds will go to the creditors.

      It goes for the liabilities too. By purchasing just the assets, the previous entity keeps the liabilities (lawsuits, judgments, and years ago, any environmental liabilities). That's the basics and there's a shit load of subtleties that the lawyers worry about - especially when it comes to environmental problems.

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  10. What assets? by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless by "assets" you mean "little asses", I don't think SCO has any. Besides which, can't Novell confiscate assets as part of the settlement of it's lawsuit? Seems to me there are a lot of interested parties that would request the judge freeze any sale of assets.

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    1. Re:What assets? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Because this is Bankruptcy Court, specifically Delaware BK court, and the BK judge in question has pretty much let SCOXQ do whatever the hell they want.

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    2. Re:What assets? by adamstew · · Score: 1

      Novell could bid, and then since that money would be then sent (via the bankruptcy court) to SCO's creditors, they would just get some of it back.

    3. Re:What assets? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Except that *no* money has gone to the creditors, except for creditors that happen to be law firms working for SCOXQ.

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  11. regex by suso · · Score: 1

    $title =~ s/[eintux]//g

    1. Re:regex by Zeek40 · · Score: 3, Funny
      SCO Ps U Asss O h Block

      Does that mean something in a foreign language or something?

    2. Re:regex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $title =~ s/Unix Assets/Sweaty Balls/;
      $title =~ s/the Block/your Chin/;

  12. business continuity? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Huh? WTF?

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    1. Re:business continuity? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was my thought. After they sell off their Unix assets, whatever the hell that might be, what products would they have?

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  13. Auction? by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bid 50 quatloos on the newcomer!

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  14. Caldera (caldera) - noun by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A smoldering hole in the ground, watched by many for signs of activity leading to great destruction. Usually produces little more than some noise and gas.

  15. They already did! by FranTaylor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Xenix anyone?

    1. Re:They already did! by guruevi · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Microsoft no longer owns Xenix, SCO does (no seriously). SCO Unix is Xenix. I guess they could buy it back but what good will that do them? They got rid of it for a reason.

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    2. Re:They already did! by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      I never said they currently own it, I said they bought it.

    3. Re:They already did! by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

      Ooh, Maybe I can get an update for my TRS80 Mod II. Where did I put my 8 inch floppies?

    4. Re:They already did! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Microsoft sold Xenix, actually, they didn't buy it. Xenix was originally a Microsoft product. They ported Unix to the 8086 processor back in the late 70's and marketed it as Xenix. But they quit selling it entirely and split SCO off to be a separate company. The story goes that they were tired of selling a 'licensed' product and paying Unix royalties. I have a machine here that runs Microsoft Xenix, an Altos 586 box.

    5. Re:They already did! by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, bits of Xenix made it into OPENSTEP, and eventually, Mac OS X, and possibly iOS. I don't remember which bits. Microsoft still has Singularity, but I can't really tell what stage of development it's in; in my wildest dreams it will become Windows 8, and NT kernel will retire entirely.

    6. Re:They already did! by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I was under the impression that Openstep was BSD with the Mach kernel. The utilities were replaced with FreeBSD equilivants with MacOSX. There should be no Xenix code at all, but perhaps a few lines of Unixware (SYS V) in some api's.

      Apple should have just used FreeBSD to replace the Unix equivalents since they were formed out of BSD lite to purge any remaining Unix code.

    7. Re:They already did! by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Solaris, too. Pretty sure /bin/clear (or was it something else...?) on Solaris is a shell script taken direct from Xenix.

    8. Re:They already did! by mrbill1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

      SCO Unix is not Xenix. SCO UNIX was based on System V R3 - Xenix was based on - Xenix :-)

      Xenix came from Microsoft. It originally ran on the 8086, then the 80286, then a 32-bit version was released.

      SCO UNIX only ran on a 32-bit processor (386 and above).

      Xenix was a pretty nice OS - available WAY before any other UNIX like OS ran on commodity hardware. You could easly run 16 serial terminals on a 286. Running 4 terminals on an 8086 was also no problem at all.

      Of course, this was all when SCO was "The Santa Cruz Operation" - the original SCO - not the new "SCO Group" which it ended up being called after being bought by Caldera.

    9. Re:They already did! by Eunuchswear · · Score: 2, Informative

      Microsoft no longer owns Xenix, SCO does (no seriously). SCO Unix is Xenix.

      You gotta love slashdot mods: "informative" my ass.

      SCO Unix is not Xenix. SCO Unix is not even Xenix compatible.

      Here's what happened:

      1. Microsoft write their first Operating system, a 16 bit version of Unix for the 8086, called Xenix because at that point you weren't allowed to call it Unix unless you were AT&T.
      2. SCO buy a license to Xenix and make some 286 versions of it.
      3. AT&T and Interactive port Unix SVR3 to the 386
      4. SCO ports Xenix to the 386
      5. AT&T and SCO make Unix SVR3.2, which is Xenix compatible, for the 386. At this point if you boot Unix SVR3.2 you see a Microsoft copyright,
      6. SCO starts selling SCO Unix (SVR3.2), eventually abandoning Xenix, but still paying licensing to Microsoft for the Xenix compatibility code.
      7. AT&T and Sun produce Unix SVR4, merging some Sunos stuff into SysV, still licensing stuff from Microsoft
      8. AT&T and Novell produce UnixWare, SVR4.2, still licensing stuff from Microsoft
      9. AT&T sells Unix to Novell
      10. Novell sells UnixWare (but not Unix) to SCO
      11. SCO produces various versions of UnixWare, still paying licensing to Microsoft. It starts proceedings against Microsoft (In the European court of justice AFAIR) and was finally released from the licensing deal if it removed the Xenix compatibility code from UnixWare, which it did.
      12. SCO was still selling SCO Unix (now SCO OpenServer) the SVR3.4 based system which includes the Xenix compatibility code alongside UnixWare, which now didn't.
      13. SCO sells UnixWare and OpenServer to Caldera (it's more complicated than that, but...)
      14. Caldera (having renamed themselves [T]SCO[G]) replace the SVR3.2 kernel in OpenServer with the "SVR5" (SVR4.2 renamed for marketing reasons) kernel from UnixWare, so OpenServer no longer needs licensing from Microsoft.

      So not only do [T]SCO[G] not own Xenix, they don't sell Xenix, and they aren't even Xenix compatible.

      Maybe I obsess to much about this nonsense? See my pseudo.

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    10. Re:They already did! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Openstep had some history with SunView as well. I think the reason for Mach and not BSD was Mach has much faster and lower overhead Interprocess communications which was a major performance killer for windowing systems.

    11. Re:They already did! by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure /bin/clear (or was it something else...?) on Solaris is a shell script taken direct from Xenix.

      #! /bin/sh

      tput clear

  16. Propagation by carrier+lost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe Paul Allen will buy them.

    1. Re:Propagation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking patent trolls! I hope he gets cancer!

  17. A pimple on the ass of capitalism by Burz · · Score: 1

    What are the chances that more zits will appear as a result of this sale?

    1. Re:A pimple on the ass of capitalism by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

      SCOX - A pimple on the ass of capitalism

      that's gotta be in a dictionary somewheres. What a great phrase!

  18. SCO's Auctions.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

        I'll give 'em $5 for that silly "Unix" name, and then offer free and perpetual licenses to every open source unix-like distribution. This has been silly. Give up the name, and we'll all be using Unix, rather than the pesky name wars.

        I'll give 'em another $5 for all that worthless IP, so I can grant free and perpetual licenses on that also.

    1. Re:SCO's Auctions.... by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Unix name is owned by the Open Group, which certifies a system (eg, AIX, OS X, Solaris) as being Unix.

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  19. So... by interval1066 · · Score: 1

    ...suing the pants off of anyone who mentioned the word "unix" didn't really work as a viable business model, did it? Ass clowns...

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    1. Re:So... by SnarfQuest · · Score: 0

      Once SCO gets rid of this division, what will they sell, exactly?

      Same thing they are selling right now. Wishful diversions for companies that feel threatened by IBM's existence.

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    2. Re:So... by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      ...suing the pants off of anyone who mentioned the word "unix" didn't really work as a viable business model, did it?

      Have you seen your average Unix admin? And you want to separate them from their pants? Not exactly Girls Gone Wild.

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  20. hey Darl by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    ill trade you some Linux ISOs for those SCO assets, you'll have to download them yourself though.

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  21. Amazing by sjames · · Score: 5, Funny

    Absolutely amazing. They haven't had a modern up-to-date system in ages, it turns out they didn't even own what they claimed to own. They got rid of the only people who had any hope of maintaining anything technically back in the '90s and they tried to defraud everyone in reach. And yet, all these years later the corpse is still twitching.

    It's like the end of the horror movie when the monster shows some vague sign of life just as the credits roll.

    1. Re:Amazing by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      I was wondering:

      What have they actually sold recently?

      Who bought it?

      What of their property is still in use anymore?

    2. Re:Amazing by sjames · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, nothing at all. They pretty much jettisoned everything and everyone that wasn't directly in support of their failed lawsuits years ago.

      The last trace of development capability got spun off in 2001 as Tarantella.

      The last time I saw SCO Unix in the '90s it still looked, felt, and acted like it did in the mid '80s. Using it was like taking a trip back in time. If it is still in use at all, it is as a POS system in a company with it's head thoroughly buried in the sand. Most of them made the move to Linux years ago once it was clear there would be no meaningful updates to SCO ever again.

    3. Re:Amazing by The+Damned+Yankee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wondering: When, exactly, will the credits stop rolling? This corpse has had so many silver bullets pumped into it that it's getting assessed by mineral developers.

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    4. Re:Amazing by jimicus · · Score: 1

      What of their property is still in use anymore?

      There's probably a SCO box still sitting around somewhere, but I'd be surprised if there were many left doing anything terribly important. I daresay buying hardware that might actually have a chance of being supported to replace failed kit would be an exercise in futility.

    5. Re:Amazing by Psaakyrn · · Score: 1

      When the sequel is released.

    6. Re:Amazing by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >There's probably a SCO box still sitting around somewhere, but I'd be surprised if there were many left doing anything terribly important.

      I know of a large national grocery store chain that still runs its accounting system on SCO. I'm sure it's pretty important to them. I personally think they should move on before it cripples their operation.

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    7. Re:Amazing by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Which country's this in? I ask because I was in a grocery store and watched a self-scan checkout rebooting - there was a message with "connecting to SCOxxxx" in it but given the context it could have been referring to something completely different.

  22. "Assets" by DarthVain · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I wonder if their "Assets" are worth less now than the total they spent on loosing lawsuits?

    They seem about as profitable as mining under my couch. Probably has about the same amount of dust bunnies.

  23. Obilg Robocop by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    "I'll buy that for a dollar!"

    1. Re:Obilg Robocop by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      $1.02

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    2. Re:Obilg Robocop by keeboo · · Score: 1

      $1.02 and a paperclip

  24. SCO still exists? by KingFrog · · Score: 0

    What do they sell?

    1. Re:SCO still exists? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      UnixWare and OpenServer, there are still places that run those for point-of-sales and financial systems. I know a couple towns (clients of my employer) that run it in their city halls for licenses, inspections, permits and fees. Can't talk them into changing it, either.

  25. Illegal without a perscription. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Cocksmoking is illegal in my state without a doctor's perscription.

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    1. Re:Illegal without a perscription. by rubycodez · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      have you tried the new e-cock?, the starter kits are pretty cheap and come in several flavors.

    2. Re:Illegal without a perscription. by jgagnon · · Score: 1

      There's a patch for that.

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  26. linuxville.com fails to sell for 100$ on ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's pretty fauxking funny/a clear statement on the state of the 'community'. 'can't GIVE it away on 2nd ave., it's in tatters', boop sha do be. ahhaha.

  27. So... by BigDaveyL · · Score: 1

    Once SCO gets rid of this division, what will they sell, exactly?

  28. The Real Story here by fishexe · · Score: 1

    'This asset sale is an important step forward in ensuring business continuity for our customers around the world,' said Ken Nielsen, SCO chief financial officer, in a statement.

    In other news, SCO still has customers. Not only that, customers around the world. I think that's the real story here.

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    1. Re:The Real Story here by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      No, I am sure he was misquoted.

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    2. Re:The Real Story here by v1 · · Score: 1

      In other news, SCO still has customers.

      I'm still in awe of the powers of positive thinking that all three of them are capable of...

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  29. A hot opportunity by whoop · · Score: 1

    I'd imagine this will be a hot thing to buy. You could take it, and then sue all these big Linux companies. It's a win-win situation. What could go wrong?

    1. Re:A hot opportunity by SnarfQuest · · Score: 0

      I'd imagine this will be a hot thing to buy. You could take it, and then sue all these big Linux companies. It's a win-win situation. What could go wrong?

      You could end up as a bankrupt company, having lost all of your suits, owe large sums of money to Novell, and still have McBride as your CEO.

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  30. time to call up the GNAA reserve! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in honor of SCO, I demand 699 trolls, stat!

  31. Groklaw coverage of the event by mrflash818 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Groklaw has mention of the event, too:

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100916121940186

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    1. Re:Groklaw coverage of the event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      got you beat Slackware user since 3.2

  32. Could have been posted w/o the gratuitous insult by mark72005 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    you teasmoking bagcocker!

  33. Tree fiddy you say,,,? by beef3k · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And that's when I understood it was the Loch Ness monster! I ain't givin' no god damn Loch Ness monster tree fiddy!

  34. $100 by TopSpin · · Score: 1

    I'm up for this. More if necessary.

    Some of this UNIX stuff has been ricocheting around the US legal system, such as it is, for decades now. SCO v Linux et al wasn't the first eruption of this nonsense. Time to retire it.

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  35. Buy it... by mrops · · Score: 1

    May be I should get a bunch of investors to buy these assets and sue anyone using Linux.

    Wonder if there is money to be made there.

  36. My bid by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 0

    Let's see, I've got $0.73 in my pocket. Think they can make change?

  37. Hopefully... by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    Once SCO gets rid of this division, what will they sell, exactly?

    Hopefully their officers will be selling themselves on the street, under a pimp named Upgrayedd.

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  38. System V source code by plcurechax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I take it this does not include a complete set of System V (Release 4.2 or 5) source code does it?

    Having never seen any AT&T Unix code newer than the reprint of Lions' A commentary on the Unix Operating System, (based on V6 - 1975) and the "ancient" Unix source from The Unix Heritage Society.

    It would be purely academic and novelty, but it would be of geeky interest to have access to System V's source code.

    1. Re:System V source code by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Go check out OpenSolaris.

      (Solaris was based on SVR4, UnixWare is SVR4.2 (SVR5 for marketing porpoises) - the major differences should be in the security stuff (SVR4.1ES) and the multiprocessor stuff (SRV4.2MP). The rest should be pretty much the same).

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    2. Re:System V source code by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Having never seen any AT&T Unix code newer than the reprint of Lions' A commentary on the Unix Operating System, (based on V6 - 1975) and the "ancient" Unix source from The Unix Heritage Society.

      Caldera's only good action, ever, was releasing that.

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  39. They DO have customers by Infonaut · · Score: 1

    ...our customers around the world.

    I can see the jokes already, but folks, SCO does have customers, and technically they are around the world.

    Why, just this morning Darl hopped on his Lear jet, and while flying to South America, he booted up their amazing secret new OS, OpenHole. Simultaneously, while riding a horse-drawn carriage through the streets of Magnitogorsk, the able CFO Ken also booted up OpenHole.

    Listen, SCO has a track record of accurate statements, and they are living up to that reputation today, just as they have in years past. Give them a little credit, people. Just a little.

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  40. related services? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recall working with SCO Unix during 1996-9. The service was terrible.
    To obtain drivers for new hardware was almost impossible.
    I think SCO should pay its users for the damage to their brains it caused.

  41. Bullocks by el_jake · · Score: 1

    'Our goal is to ensure continued viability for SCO, its customers, employees and the Unix technology.'

    Thats just bullocks.. They have destroyed Unix V and scammed the world. These so called exec's from SCO should be charged for destroying a legacy and scamming the entire IT world.. They belong behind bars.

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  42. Don't forget... by Nimey · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

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  43. creepy by trb · · Score: 1

    Isn't this kind of like buying a dead guy's shoes?

    1. Re:creepy by glebovitz · · Score: 1

      more like buying a dead man's porn collection.

    2. Re:creepy by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      Isn't this kind of like buying a dead guy's shoes?

      Nope. In the case of buying a dead guy's shoes, you at least get something of value for your purchase.

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  44. Re: SCO then and now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used SCO when it was The Only "ix" on a PC. Linus was still pushing marbles around the playground. It is weird to read all you johnny-come-lately Linux boy's comments who were literally in diapers when SCO made the *ONLY* platform. There was NO linux, only SCO. In no way, shape or form would I defend the latest bunch of SCO executives and their legal action. The real SCO died in the 90's as another poster stated. Almost all the smart ass remarks are people who have little or NO idea that SCO was first in the "ix" movement. You will never convince me or anyone who has knowledge of SCO products that linux did not benefit from SCO developers in many ways. Many of the smart-asses are like little moron sheep. P.S. I still use SCO servers running as virtual machines to run obsolete proprietary software.

  45. I just bid! by emt377 · · Score: 1

    I just sent an email with my bid and I can say it was well over $100. Hope I win!

  46. Re: SCO then and now by mschuyler · · Score: 1

    They key to your entire statement is your P.S. You use SCO to run obsolete proprietary software.

    OOOOOK!

    P.S. I use dBase II on CP/M so that means everyone else is a moron sheep.

    P.P.S. I thought all sheep were morons!

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  47. Auction list? by ediron2 · · Score: 1

    Where's the auction inventory? I'm still game for picking over SCO's ruins for anything of value, then trying to pool enough OSS money to buy and rerelease it.

    Then again, just because SCO says they *own* the IP... (shit!)

  48. Are the lawyers included? by Roskolnikov · · Score: 1

    I thought the legal staff was the only value add at SCO, am I missing something?

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  49. Customers? by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1

    What customers?

    1. Re:Customers? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Funnily, I was a contractor at IBM at around the time of the lawsuit, and we had a couple of SCO boxes in order to provide printer driver support for the platform. True story!

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    2. Re:Customers? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      Funnily, I was a contractor at IBM at around the time of the lawsuit, and we had a couple of SCO boxes in order to provide printer driver support for the platform. True story!

      I'm in the an IBM Rational lab. We've got old SCO manuals on the shelf from before IBM bought Rational. It makes me smile every day.

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  50. Now we have a way to pay SCO back by slincolne · · Score: 1

    We need to get a list of the so called assets they are puting up for sale, and place bids. If everyone put a formal bid in for $1 for something, and sent them in, we'd have SCO sucking up even more cash.

  51. Re: SCO then and now by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    The problem for SCO is that they stood still while the rest of the world advanced. While SCO might have been the only game in town, it must burn you so much that a novice OS like Linux would so quickly surpass SCO Unix in terms of performance and capability within such a short time.

    You will never convince me or anyone who has knowledge of SCO products that linux did not benefit from SCO developers in many ways.

    Have you been paying attention to Linux or SCO trial at all? Linux was developed in the open. And from the beginning the Linux collaborators asked for details so that they could remove any infringing material. All they got were threats. Currently the only proof of any alleged material at trial has been trivial at best. Also for a while the new SCO (formerly Caldera) released code into Linux and released a version of Linux. So yes, there might have been SCO IP in Linux but until someone shows any real proof of wrong doing, it was a bunch of outlandish and unsupported allegations by SCO.

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  52. Farthing by phrostie · · Score: 1

    is a farthing still a valid form of currancy?

    if so that is my bid.

    1 farthing.

  53. Customers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO has customers?

  54. Question about the Assets by bratwiz · · Score: 1

    Does the winning bidder get to turn Daryl into his/her personal boot-licking worm ???

  55. Assets? by ThorGod · · Score: 1

    Just what do they own, exactly? i.e. Could I buy vi?

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  56. SCO Puts UNIX Assects ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO own nothing!

    For them to put UNIX (theirs) for sale is Fruad.

    Oh... I just forgot ... SCO has nothing to do with FRUAD. LOL!

  57. Crimeny... by rnturn · · Score: 1

    And I thought I was an old-timer.

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    1. Re:Crimeny... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M

      Call Gregory.

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  58. What SCO's selling... by rnturn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... is probably a bunch of old crap that's on QIC-02 tapes.

    I still have bad memories of having to use SCO back in the mid/late-90s. When I left that job, I left the SCO manuals -- that I bought on my own dime -- in the bottom drawer of my desk. I couldn't bear having any evidence of having used that atrocity of a UNIX; didn't want anyone to know I'd been exposed to it. They might ask me to work with it again.

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  59. Re: SCO then and now by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

    P.S. I still use SCO servers running as virtual machines to run obsolete proprietary software.

    Last I checked neither Xen nor KVM would run SCO UnixWare 7.1.1 :-(

    http://bugzilla.xensource.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1391

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  60. PastBlast-Shirt by muckracer · · Score: 1

    I still have an old Caldera T-Shirt (Linux Expo 2000 or so) and it has the slogan:

    "Caldera - Unifying Unix and Linux for Business"

    With all that went down after that shirt, it is nothing short of a remarkable sentence. Still get a kick out of it each time I look at it :-)

  61. I'd like to open a bid... by Genda · · Score: 1

    by offering 10 pounds of steaming bat guano... I figure crap for crap is a fair trade, it's an excellent fertilizer, and after all that time with so many lawyers Darl should find guano smells damn near like perfume.

  62. $699 ... do I hear $699? Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it'll be a Dutch auction.

  63. Re: SCO then and now by fishexe · · Score: 1

    P.S. I still use SCO servers running as virtual machines to run obsolete proprietary software.

    If it's obsolete, why do you still use it?

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  64. This should keep groklaw busy a while longer by Douglas+Goodall · · Score: 1

    This definitely qualified for what I call, "Special Awe". Normally I save this term to describe the actions of my first wife, who's logic always astounded me, but in this case, I do think we are dealing with SA. Each time SCO does something new in this game, I wonder if they are on drugs. Given that this UNix thingy has been litigated to death. The last I remember, Novell remained the rights-holder. These guys must sit around in coffee shops and see who can come up with the most outlandish claims, then they go do it. I know there are people out there with more money then brains, but even given that, only someone that liked litigation (and being hated) could pick up SCO's banner and charge forward into idiocy. Then again a group of lawyers with not enough to do could buy SCO and litigate in their spare time. At this point it seems to me that Darl's name is becoming an adjective. "He really did a Darl on that one!!". :-)