Connect this system to the Ohio license plate recognition system, biometric ID's, RFID tags. We're almost there! We're almost to where the government can track our every move! We need more systems like this to make the dream a reality!
Let's tie this to biometric ID's, RFID tags embedded in your underwear, facial recognition cameras on every corner, etc. until we know exactly when someone does anything suspicious or unusual. We should record everyone's habits, so we can alert officials when you do something new. I bet you could even predict when someone's about to commit a crime with enough information about where everyone is and what they're doing.
If you sell common hardware, the only two ways you can really make money are on support and software sales. Opening your code source will only serve to generate competition when other vendors take your source code and start offering their services for a lower price. Then you're back to square one: the software becomes a commodity and you can only make money on support. Which, by the way, the OSS community also strives to make freely available on the internet.
Don't listen to these wieners. Keep your code closed and keep your company in the black.
That is precisely what I am talking about. When human population grows to a certain point, everything on the planet will take a backseat to human survival. Only when earth is completely devoid of any remaining resources to accommodate any more human beings, will the population growth be finally checked by humans killing off other humans to survive. We won't have anything left on earth except that which is harvested to feed and house human beings, and even then you can expect it to be 100% domestic and compacted into tiny areas as if the entire planet were living in a space capsule. It will BECOME one giant space capsule, cramped, smelly and miserable.
So, hurray for indefinite lifespans!
While we're at it, let's prevent all disease, make every living human being fertile, even if they aren't naturally so, and give everyone drugs to make them have twins or triplets at least! Don't forget to prevent all death and dismemberment by outlawing all potentially dangerous activities! Maybe if we're really clever, we can figure out how to bring back the dead! Woohoo! Then we'd be rolling along nicely. Yeah!
I mentioned ZILCH about forcing anyone to do anything except for you dillweeds to stop for a second, pull your heads out of your ass, and stop cheering on something that, while not likely to happen in the first place, would bring on the horrors of extreme overpopulation.
But feel free to go on getting excited about something that won't happen, but which, in the extremely unlikely case that it does happen, would lead to a truly miserable existence on earth.
That is a juvenile and irresponsible argument. That is precisely the same as the "if you don't want to be on the highway inside of a nice, big, safe SUV, then don't." It's selfish and it doesn't account for the cold hard facts about the earth's ability to sustain human beings at their present growth rate. Factor in an indefinite lifespan, and it's a nightmare waiting to happen.
Just because indefinite-lifespan opponents and their arguments can be predicted, doesn't mean that earth's capacity issues have been solved somehow by magic, or that by ignoring it in favor of praising this new, exciting science the problem just solves itself. It doesn't.
Luckily, we probably won't actually get indefinite lifespans. So you can play the part of the selfish bastard and have fun with it, knowing you'll never really have to pay the price for your stupidity.
I read the article, and I still agree. Saying "if you don't want to live longer, don't" is not an argument for allowing people to live indefinitely. If people don't wither away and die from whatever disease takes them in their old age, the earth itself is threatened. Humans are tremendously destructive, , fantastically expansive and do not mix well with other native flora and fauna. If humans start living indefinitely, it will mark the beginning of the end of earth. It's not just rhetoric, it's a fact. Humans need to check their population growth, and the coolness of extended human lifespan does not somehow magically make that point moot.
Tapping the ego and calling upon people to "go ahead and die" if they feel extending human lifespan is a bad idea is a childish statement, and the sort you would expect from a fanatic, not a scientist. There's no way earth can sustain our current growth rate indefinitely, let alone what would happen is people increased their lifespans. Indefinitely extending human lifespan is a death sentence for earth itself.
I thought he wanted to lease lines so their company could offer DSL over it. He wants to buy DSL service from the local telco and then re-sell it? I didn't know you could do that. I know you can lease copper pairs, and you are free to set up DSL on them if you want to, but I've never heard of actually buying the DSL services and re-selling it.
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You waited until there was already established competition to do this? Why didn't you do this when the DSL market was unfulfilled?
Take a step back now and look at yourselves. Everquest is dead. Everquest is dying. Isn't that an old enough cliche that even the most cynical retards would know better than to repeat?
That's what being a moderate really means. Moderate is how each side says "hey, you aren't backing us up 100%!" It's really just thinking and making the right choices, but each side likes to call anyone in their party a "moderate" when they don't put their brain in a jar and follow along in step.
How can you be free when your anonymity is completely erased? The government isn't the watchdog of all of its citizens, and shouldn't be. It's perfectly acceptable for a human being to live quietly, unbeknownst to his/her neighbors and remain that way for their entire lives. The government has no right to cast an eye on every living human being, effectively "tagging" them like animals so their every move, their every purchase, their every word spoken can all be cataloged and analyzed for any purpose.
If implemented, this sort of system WILL leave to the kinds of abuses envisioned in 1984. It's just a matter of time, but this is definitely the foundation on which it is all based. After this, it's just a matter of tying input into the system. Cameras that can ID faces can instantly match your presence in any given location to a database of everything you've done, said, eaten, shitted, dropped, picked up, waved at, got into, got out of, you name it. When they can tie your IP packets to the database, the cameras, microphones, etc. all into the one place where everything can be stored and associated with your one big biometric ID, it's just a matter of time.
I know this is paranoid. But this is the direction governments move in. Democracies moves away from it, but bureaucracies move towards it. It makes the jobs of police and investigators a lot easier, and the pressure to implement 1984-style system is constant and internal. It's hard to fight against. So when technology starts to make it easy, and other valid uses for it are found, they can sneak in and once they're there, they're there.
We don't need to track everyone and everything. Forgery-resistant certificates are all we need to establish citizenship, eligibilities, ownerships and so on. We don't need one big database maintaining all that information. Every once in awhile forgeries will occur. That's a small price to pay for liberty.
Doh, I hope that's not sarcasm. I see way too many people jiggle their particular side's flags to think anyone has seen too much moderate commentary. After all this "I'm right!" -- "No I'm right" nonsense, how sad it would be if people with a middle-ground sort of thinking we're thought of as the third rhetorical viewpoint.
It was his non-criminal, non-psychotic father's gun. Even with some of the more stringent gun control laws in place, the gun would have been there and he still would have done what he did.
Unless you didn't meant to say "gun control" and meant to say, instead, "total outlawing of all firearms."
A complete ban on all firearms, even by lawful citizens, would have saved him.
You just completely contradicted yourself in the same paragraph
True. Youthful exuberance in the parent poster. It's true you can't live in a safe world by capitulating to every terrorist organization, but at the same time, spending billions of dollars to invade countries that have zero involvement with terrorism is also a little quixotic. But also, just being the guy who swings the big bat around on a whim, even when directed at the right organizations, can often make you more of a target. It's far better to use diplomacy whenever possible. Bush doesn't believe in diplomacy, he always takes the low road and always creates more trouble than he settles.
America is not the biggest polluter, intentional or otherwise
Also true. We're SUPPOSED to be the "good guys" though. America, despite all the hatred you hear, is loved by the world and we're looked up to virtually everywhere. But it's like when you catch your father having sex with your sister. You still think he's a god deep down inside, but now you hate him and think he's off his fargin rocker and needs to be netted, tagged and neutered. You can't hate someone the way you hate someone that you love deeply who has betrayed you, disillusioned you and made you feel alone, without any real guidance for your future.
The threat is not dumb Americans you pompous arrogant condescending coward
We are, though. Not directly. The terrorists started us on this current steamroll of death and dismemberment, to be sure. But our reaction is acidic. We made things worse. There will always be terrorists, so we need to learn to react properly and engage them properly. 3000 dead from 9/11 is no reason to kill Iraqis. They had nothing to do with the attack. It's this fact, that we launch into countries who have nothing to do with anything, that makes the whole world see us as overbearing, sick and twisted. We are, too. We have no common sense about things anymore. We just do what we want and justify it as we go along. "It's for safety! It's for God! It's for the children!"
I see your opinion as the flip side of the opinion of the top poster. You both are hitting the mark, but you aren't dead-on and it's that wild swing left and right that is the real trouble these days. People need to realize there are no more good guys. There are only people doing the right thing or the wrong thing, and America is just as capable of doing the wrong thing as any terrorist is. Iraq is proof of that. Bush is proof that we are NOT blessed by God to be the world's leader for all that is good in the world. We are capable of evil, just like everyone else.
My point is, few people are absolutely correct these days about either side of the issue. We've done good, we've done bad. We're (the U.S.) not the world's knight in shining armor anymore.
As an American, it hurts to hear this sort of commentary. But what hurts more is that it's true. I'm so sick of corporate hip-hop garbage blasting in my face everywhere I go, redneck christian morons cheering Bush on with every Iraqi killed or maimed. America has become DUMB DUMB DUMB and the jobs are slipping away. I can only guess what it will be like here in 20-40 years. Many of them seem proud of it too.
A friend of mine went undiagnosed as a schizophrenic, then attacked someone completely at random one day when he was around 19 or 20, got a couple years in the pokey, got diagnosed in there, did pretty well on meds until he got out, then while on probation, did something, cops came to the door, he freaked out and thought they were coming for him, so he grabbed a shotgun, ran out the back door, jumped a couple yard fences into someone else's backyard, then as they started to close in on him, he put the shotgun up under his chin and took his own head off. Apparently, no one checked to see that he was taking his meds, and he started saying "the voices are telling me to kill you, but I know they're not real, so don't worry, I won't listen to them."
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Listening to that sophomoric dialog was like watching Quentin Tarantino act.
Connect this system to the Ohio license plate recognition system, biometric ID's, RFID tags. We're almost there! We're almost to where the government can track our every move! We need more systems like this to make the dream a reality!
Surely they'll pass laws making that illegal. Only the government can legally track everyone's every move.
Let's tie this to biometric ID's, RFID tags embedded in your underwear, facial recognition cameras on every corner, etc. until we know exactly when someone does anything suspicious or unusual. We should record everyone's habits, so we can alert officials when you do something new. I bet you could even predict when someone's about to commit a crime with enough information about where everyone is and what they're doing.
True, but they try.
If you sell common hardware, the only two ways you can really make money are on support and software sales. Opening your code source will only serve to generate competition when other vendors take your source code and start offering their services for a lower price. Then you're back to square one: the software becomes a commodity and you can only make money on support. Which, by the way, the OSS community also strives to make freely available on the internet.
Don't listen to these wieners. Keep your code closed and keep your company in the black.
That is precisely what I am talking about. When human population grows to a certain point, everything on the planet will take a backseat to human survival. Only when earth is completely devoid of any remaining resources to accommodate any more human beings, will the population growth be finally checked by humans killing off other humans to survive. We won't have anything left on earth except that which is harvested to feed and house human beings, and even then you can expect it to be 100% domestic and compacted into tiny areas as if the entire planet were living in a space capsule. It will BECOME one giant space capsule, cramped, smelly and miserable.
So, hurray for indefinite lifespans!
While we're at it, let's prevent all disease, make every living human being fertile, even if they aren't naturally so, and give everyone drugs to make them have twins or triplets at least! Don't forget to prevent all death and dismemberment by outlawing all potentially dangerous activities! Maybe if we're really clever, we can figure out how to bring back the dead! Woohoo! Then we'd be rolling along nicely. Yeah!
Stupid.
I mentioned ZILCH about forcing anyone to do anything except for you dillweeds to stop for a second, pull your heads out of your ass, and stop cheering on something that, while not likely to happen in the first place, would bring on the horrors of extreme overpopulation.
But feel free to go on getting excited about something that won't happen, but which, in the extremely unlikely case that it does happen, would lead to a truly miserable existence on earth.
Dumbass.
You mean "by the time we really wreck earth, we'll have found a new one to inhabit/wreck." Also a very irresponsible, childish attitude.
That is a juvenile and irresponsible argument. That is precisely the same as the "if you don't want to be on the highway inside of a nice, big, safe SUV, then don't." It's selfish and it doesn't account for the cold hard facts about the earth's ability to sustain human beings at their present growth rate. Factor in an indefinite lifespan, and it's a nightmare waiting to happen.
Just because indefinite-lifespan opponents and their arguments can be predicted, doesn't mean that earth's capacity issues have been solved somehow by magic, or that by ignoring it in favor of praising this new, exciting science the problem just solves itself. It doesn't.
Luckily, we probably won't actually get indefinite lifespans. So you can play the part of the selfish bastard and have fun with it, knowing you'll never really have to pay the price for your stupidity.
Childish, selfish boobs, the lot of you.
I read the article, and I still agree. Saying "if you don't want to live longer, don't" is not an argument for allowing people to live indefinitely. If people don't wither away and die from whatever disease takes them in their old age, the earth itself is threatened. Humans are tremendously destructive, , fantastically expansive and do not mix well with other native flora and fauna. If humans start living indefinitely, it will mark the beginning of the end of earth. It's not just rhetoric, it's a fact. Humans need to check their population growth, and the coolness of extended human lifespan does not somehow magically make that point moot.
Tapping the ego and calling upon people to "go ahead and die" if they feel extending human lifespan is a bad idea is a childish statement, and the sort you would expect from a fanatic, not a scientist. There's no way earth can sustain our current growth rate indefinitely, let alone what would happen is people increased their lifespans. Indefinitely extending human lifespan is a death sentence for earth itself.
I thought he wanted to lease lines so their company could offer DSL over it. He wants to buy DSL service from the local telco and then re-sell it? I didn't know you could do that. I know you can lease copper pairs, and you are free to set up DSL on them if you want to, but I've never heard of actually buying the DSL services and re-selling it.
You waited until there was already established competition to do this? Why didn't you do this when the DSL market was unfulfilled?
It's insightful because his thinking is right.
Take a step back now and look at yourselves. Everquest is dead. Everquest is dying. Isn't that an old enough cliche that even the most cynical retards would know better than to repeat?
Everquest is going to be around forever.
Literally.
That's what being a moderate really means. Moderate is how each side says "hey, you aren't backing us up 100%!" It's really just thinking and making the right choices, but each side likes to call anyone in their party a "moderate" when they don't put their brain in a jar and follow along in step.
You're right. Too many words. Here's a condensed version for you:
Dumbass.
There isn't a single country whose citizens don't still come here and settle in droves, when they can get a tab on immigration.
German, Russian, Iranian, Mexican...you name it. America still takes in more immigrants than any other country in the world.
Because we're hated of course.
Dumbass.
How can you be free when your anonymity is completely erased? The government isn't the watchdog of all of its citizens, and shouldn't be. It's perfectly acceptable for a human being to live quietly, unbeknownst to his/her neighbors and remain that way for their entire lives. The government has no right to cast an eye on every living human being, effectively "tagging" them like animals so their every move, their every purchase, their every word spoken can all be cataloged and analyzed for any purpose.
If implemented, this sort of system WILL leave to the kinds of abuses envisioned in 1984. It's just a matter of time, but this is definitely the foundation on which it is all based. After this, it's just a matter of tying input into the system. Cameras that can ID faces can instantly match your presence in any given location to a database of everything you've done, said, eaten, shitted, dropped, picked up, waved at, got into, got out of, you name it. When they can tie your IP packets to the database, the cameras, microphones, etc. all into the one place where everything can be stored and associated with your one big biometric ID, it's just a matter of time.
I know this is paranoid. But this is the direction governments move in. Democracies moves away from it, but bureaucracies move towards it. It makes the jobs of police and investigators a lot easier, and the pressure to implement 1984-style system is constant and internal. It's hard to fight against. So when technology starts to make it easy, and other valid uses for it are found, they can sneak in and once they're there, they're there.
We don't need to track everyone and everything. Forgery-resistant certificates are all we need to establish citizenship, eligibilities, ownerships and so on. We don't need one big database maintaining all that information. Every once in awhile forgeries will occur. That's a small price to pay for liberty.
It has also worked just fine for centuries.
Doh, I hope that's not sarcasm. I see way too many people jiggle their particular side's flags to think anyone has seen too much moderate commentary. After all this "I'm right!" -- "No I'm right" nonsense, how sad it would be if people with a middle-ground sort of thinking we're thought of as the third rhetorical viewpoint.
It was his non-criminal, non-psychotic father's gun. Even with some of the more stringent gun control laws in place, the gun would have been there and he still would have done what he did.
Unless you didn't meant to say "gun control" and meant to say, instead, "total outlawing of all firearms."
A complete ban on all firearms, even by lawful citizens, would have saved him.
You just completely contradicted yourself in the same paragraph
True. Youthful exuberance in the parent poster. It's true you can't live in a safe world by capitulating to every terrorist organization, but at the same time, spending billions of dollars to invade countries that have zero involvement with terrorism is also a little quixotic. But also, just being the guy who swings the big bat around on a whim, even when directed at the right organizations, can often make you more of a target. It's far better to use diplomacy whenever possible. Bush doesn't believe in diplomacy, he always takes the low road and always creates more trouble than he settles.
America is not the biggest polluter, intentional or otherwise
Also true. We're SUPPOSED to be the "good guys" though. America, despite all the hatred you hear, is loved by the world and we're looked up to virtually everywhere. But it's like when you catch your father having sex with your sister. You still think he's a god deep down inside, but now you hate him and think he's off his fargin rocker and needs to be netted, tagged and neutered. You can't hate someone the way you hate someone that you love deeply who has betrayed you, disillusioned you and made you feel alone, without any real guidance for your future.
The threat is not dumb Americans you pompous arrogant condescending coward
We are, though. Not directly. The terrorists started us on this current steamroll of death and dismemberment, to be sure. But our reaction is acidic. We made things worse. There will always be terrorists, so we need to learn to react properly and engage them properly. 3000 dead from 9/11 is no reason to kill Iraqis. They had nothing to do with the attack. It's this fact, that we launch into countries who have nothing to do with anything, that makes the whole world see us as overbearing, sick and twisted. We are, too. We have no common sense about things anymore. We just do what we want and justify it as we go along. "It's for safety! It's for God! It's for the children!"
I see your opinion as the flip side of the opinion of the top poster. You both are hitting the mark, but you aren't dead-on and it's that wild swing left and right that is the real trouble these days. People need to realize there are no more good guys. There are only people doing the right thing or the wrong thing, and America is just as capable of doing the wrong thing as any terrorist is. Iraq is proof of that. Bush is proof that we are NOT blessed by God to be the world's leader for all that is good in the world. We are capable of evil, just like everyone else.
My point is, few people are absolutely correct these days about either side of the issue. We've done good, we've done bad. We're (the U.S.) not the world's knight in shining armor anymore.
As an American, it hurts to hear this sort of commentary. But what hurts more is that it's true. I'm so sick of corporate hip-hop garbage blasting in my face everywhere I go, redneck christian morons cheering Bush on with every Iraqi killed or maimed. America has become DUMB DUMB DUMB and the jobs are slipping away. I can only guess what it will be like here in 20-40 years. Many of them seem proud of it too.
A friend of mine went undiagnosed as a schizophrenic, then attacked someone completely at random one day when he was around 19 or 20, got a couple years in the pokey, got diagnosed in there, did pretty well on meds until he got out, then while on probation, did something, cops came to the door, he freaked out and thought they were coming for him, so he grabbed a shotgun, ran out the back door, jumped a couple yard fences into someone else's backyard, then as they started to close in on him, he put the shotgun up under his chin and took his own head off. Apparently, no one checked to see that he was taking his meds, and he started saying "the voices are telling me to kill you, but I know they're not real, so don't worry, I won't listen to them."