Please no self extractors. Especially in Linux. In my experience, 90% of the Linux ones never work. I especially love the ones who say "can't install -- need at least version 2.2.x of GNU libc" when I have 2.3.x (which is backwards compatible). Luckily they're usually bash scripts in front of a tarball, so I can just find the start of the archive and untar it. Even though I can do it, it sucks bigtime.
I also like to know what the package is going to do and what files it will create before it installs. You can't do that with self extractors. Self extractors are a PITA.
Your suggestion of including the dependencies (at least the less common ones) with the package is a good idea though.
Are you a programmer? Simple HTTP isn't that hard. Anyway, just about every language has some sort of HTTP library. I believe both Python and Perl's standard distribution comes with one. There is one for C at w3.org. I serously doubt even Microsoft wouldn't include some sort of library to facilitate downloading with HTTP--they merged an entire web browser into their operating system after all.
But should everything illegal automatically be considered wrong? Say the Democrats and Republicans pass a bill which makes it a felony to join any party except their two and a felony if you don't join any party. This means if you don't want to be a part of the biparty, you will also lose your right to vote.
Is this right? In this era of corruption, would you really be surprised if this happend?
PD wrote: "It's hard to parse. That takes cycles."
In my experience XML isn't hard to parse at all. Basically, you just have to recognize tags (basic regexp) and match opening ones and closing ones (use a stack, Luke).
The cycles he was talking about were obviously CPU processing cycles. Show me a CPU which has opcodes for regular expressions. Do you even know enough about how processors work to tell which operations will require more processing time? Even a line by line text file is easier to process than XML.
Are you saying mandatory bundling of songs is a good thing? It's not as if you will be unable to buy all the songs you want if they are sold separately. So what's next? Should we have to buy all of a band's music or none at all, so if they have 6 albums, we will have to fork out the money for all of them in one go?
I think the new site looks better. It's even nice on different browsers. Well formatted with text only Lynx, and Dillo works okay (except a few images don't display--Dillo still has a few bugs?)
This is a very common misconception by those who frequent Slashdot and it is further misconstrued by the morons who submit news and those who fail to properly and reasonably edit submissions.
Oh God, what is up with stupid people who generalize everyone on
Slashdot as if we are all of one mind (and only considering posts from preteens and trolls no less), yet they (who post to/. as well) obviously consider themselves a superior individual, yet show less intelligence than the average slashdotter?
It's funny. In the majority of posts I've read on Slashdot, everyone understood that "IP" laws don't protect ideas, but were complaining that many companies and "IP" lawyers act as if the laws do. The Freecraft vs Blizzard fiasco is a perfect example. Your post is especially stupid considering you were replying to a guy who was making exactly this complaint.
The GNU site is a very biased place to go. However it is a good place if you want to know if a license is compatible with the GPL.
I can't think of any places which aren't biased, but opensource.org lists a whole tonne of them without stating one is better than the other. I suppose they have to be certified as "open source" by the site to be listed there, but it seems more objective to me...
Linux does tell apps where they "live." The symbolic link/proc/self/exe. Most developers don't use it either because they consider it bad form (in some ways it is), it's not cross platform, they're too lazy, or they don't know how to do it.
Then I claim "21+3=24" as my copyrighted work. Anyone using such an equation must pay me $50 in US funds per copy.
Why don't you wake up./etc/termcap is a listing of facts about which characters a terminal will recognize. Last time I checked, facts couldn't be copyrighted.
Organized crime will flourish too[1]. I'm sure many of the "little guys" will start up illegal businesses because that is the only way they'll be able to get by...
[1] I mean traditional organized crime--I suppose most of today's large corporations can be considered organized crime as well.
Just be too cheap to buy a dryer, and use your microwave instead.;-)
Apparently, drying your clothes in the microwave really works. A roommate tried it with her bra once. The laundry room was busy that day, or was she just too cheap to use the dryer? I forget. She was always hanging her clothes out...at any rate, it dried just fine...
I don't know about that guy, but my inboxes at dmcbride@sco.com and billg@microsoft.com are just filled with spam! Where are they getting my addresses? Probably thum thar Linux script kitties!
So you're saying any documents criticizing governments or warning friends about a deadly new disease are copyrighted by the RIAA? You are much more likely to find those things on Freenet than mp3s.
Your question is throwing out a red herring. Yes, it is possible to use Freenet for copyright infringment of music, but not very well. Why don't you try using it yourself? If you did, you'd know why it's such a stupid arguement that Freenet will be used for "mass piracy." The thing has enough trouble with html documents!
The free speech Clarke was talking about is obviously speech produced by the person publishing on Freenet, not some other person's song.
Yes there is a reason communism fell, and the RIAA wants to recreate it in the US. When there is a guard posted by every copy machine, the communists will have won!
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Maybe gmajor was referring to the fact the Chinese government censored all information about SARS. If an infected people don't know they have a serious disease, they won't go to a hospital. If they don't go to a hospital, they won't be quarantined and will keep spreading the disease until they die.
Hey: want to give out good stuff? Set up a fscking web page.
Then why don't you send him money for the web hosting and bandwidth costs. At least with P2P, the other users help distribute bandwidth costs so the publisher doesn't have to pay all of it...
I've been using Linux since 1996. Since you are obviously too stupid to do math, 2003-1996= 7 years.
random crashes of KDE
If you read my posing history, you'd know I bash KDE and GNOME all the time. YOU DON'T NEED KDE TO RUN LINUX! My system works fine without it. If you think KDE has anything to do with Linux, you are the one who doesn't know shit about technology.
Weaknesses must be admitted to be fixed.
Since when did I say Linux didn't have any weaknesses? "Maybe Linux isn't the greatest kernel which could ever be made..." Does that sound like I said Linux doesn't have any weaknesses? Your "(like, say, in WinNT)" statement shows you were saying Linux is worst than the shittiest group of operating systems (Windows) I have ever seen, and I've been using computers for two decades.
In fact, I have started migrating over to FreeBSD because I think it's better, and I don't have to worry about Stallman's crap. GNU politics suck--though they're better than M$ politics.
Everybody knows that linux kernel is pretty lame in terms of design.
As opposed to what? Microsoft Windows? Ha. You are full of shit. Maybe Linux isn't the greatest kernel which could ever be made, but because of M$'s anti-competitive tactics, we may never see such a kernel. Microsoft's software is a thousand times more lame than anything Linus ever put out.
I think the majority of problems Linux is experiencing these days is because Linux kernel isn't modular enough and the interfaces aren't stable enough for hardware manufacturers to rely on them and safely invest into developing hardware drivers.
Not modular? Have you ever worked with the Linux kernel? Not stable? You must really be on crack. The only unstable elements of Linux I have found are things clearly marked as experimental. On a regular basis, Microsoft releases software for general consumption which is highly unstable. The main reason I initially stopped using Microsoft products was because they produce fucked up pieces of shit.
I have never seen a non-experimental Linux kernel which is more unstable than the crap Microsoft puts out. No, it doesn't count when Red Hat grabs something out of CVS, adds a bunch of experimental patches, and reversions it as "stable." Red Hat != Linux.
If you want to know the real reason hardware vendors are reluctant to support non-M$ systems, you should check out the anti-trust case against M$. It shows why companies are afraid to support competing products.
It seems that open source community's stance on this is "either it's fully open or we don't support it".
So you're saying they should do a bunch of development work and get nothing out of it. Open source developers aren't your slaves. They have reasons to do what they do. Just because you can't get a free ride from them doesn't mean they are bastards.
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Please no self extractors. Especially in Linux. In my experience, 90% of the Linux ones never work. I especially love the ones who say "can't install -- need at least version 2.2.x of GNU libc" when I have 2.3.x (which is backwards compatible). Luckily they're usually bash scripts in front of a tarball, so I can just find the start of the archive and untar it. Even though I can do it, it sucks bigtime.
I also like to know what the package is going to do and what files it will create before it installs. You can't do that with self extractors. Self extractors are a PITA.
Your suggestion of including the dependencies (at least the less common ones) with the package is a good idea though.
Are you a programmer? Simple HTTP isn't that hard. Anyway, just about every language has some sort of HTTP library. I believe both Python and Perl's standard distribution comes with one. There is one for C at w3.org. I serously doubt even Microsoft wouldn't include some sort of library to facilitate downloading with HTTP--they merged an entire web browser into their operating system after all.
But should everything illegal automatically be considered wrong? Say the Democrats and Republicans pass a bill which makes it a felony to join any party except their two and a felony if you don't join any party. This means if you don't want to be a part of the biparty, you will also lose your right to vote.
Is this right? In this era of corruption, would you really be surprised if this happend?
You did it wrong. In the religion of 1337LiNuXes, the IE to Mozilla ordinance goes as follows:
When you follow this these ordinaces of the 1337LiNuXes, you will surely find happiness! Praise Linus! ;-)
The cycles he was talking about were obviously CPU processing cycles. Show me a CPU which has opcodes for regular expressions. Do you even know enough about how processors work to tell which operations will require more processing time? Even a line by line text file is easier to process than XML.
Are you saying mandatory bundling of songs is a good thing? It's not as if you will be unable to buy all the songs you want if they are sold separately. So what's next? Should we have to buy all of a band's music or none at all, so if they have 6 albums, we will have to fork out the money for all of them in one go?
I think the new site looks better. It's even nice on different browsers. Well formatted with text only Lynx, and Dillo works okay (except a few images don't display--Dillo still has a few bugs?)
Good job.
So now it's illegal to hate the RIAA? I guess Dubya has nothing on them.
Hate the RIAA? Go to Camp X-Ray! (This would make a perfect propaganda poster)
Oh God, what is up with stupid people who generalize everyone on Slashdot as if we are all of one mind (and only considering posts from preteens and trolls no less), yet they (who post to /. as well) obviously consider themselves a superior individual, yet show less intelligence than the average slashdotter?
It's funny. In the majority of posts I've read on Slashdot, everyone understood that "IP" laws don't protect ideas, but were complaining that many companies and "IP" lawyers act as if the laws do. The Freecraft vs Blizzard fiasco is a perfect example. Your post is especially stupid considering you were replying to a guy who was making exactly this complaint.
The GNU site is a very biased place to go. However it is a good place if you want to know if a license is compatible with the GPL.
I can't think of any places which aren't biased, but opensource.org lists a whole tonne of them without stating one is better than the other. I suppose they have to be certified as "open source" by the site to be listed there, but it seems more objective to me...
Linux does tell apps where they "live." The symbolic link /proc/self/exe. Most developers don't use it either because they consider it bad form (in some ways it is), it's not cross platform, they're too lazy, or they don't know how to do it.
Translation: "We encrypt every byte by securely exclusive oring it with 0x00. Uncrackable."
Then I claim "21+3=24" as my copyrighted work. Anyone using such an equation must pay me $50 in US funds per copy.
Why don't you wake up. /etc/termcap is a listing of facts about which characters a terminal will recognize. Last time I checked, facts couldn't be copyrighted.
Organized crime will flourish too[1]. I'm sure many of the "little guys" will start up illegal businesses because that is the only way they'll be able to get by...
[1] I mean traditional organized crime--I suppose most of today's large corporations can be considered organized crime as well.
Just be too cheap to buy a dryer, and use your microwave instead. ;-)
Apparently, drying your clothes in the microwave really works. A roommate tried it with her bra once. The laundry room was busy that day, or was she just too cheap to use the dryer? I forget. She was always hanging her clothes out...at any rate, it dried just fine...
I don't know about that guy, but my inboxes at dmcbride@sco.com and billg@microsoft.com are just filled with spam! Where are they getting my addresses? Probably thum thar Linux script kitties!
Well, just to be safe, my username will be "michigan" from now on. Let the spammers chew on that!
So you're saying any documents criticizing governments or warning friends about a deadly new disease are copyrighted by the RIAA? You are much more likely to find those things on Freenet than mp3s.
Your question is throwing out a red herring. Yes, it is possible to use Freenet for copyright infringment of music, but not very well. Why don't you try using it yourself? If you did, you'd know why it's such a stupid arguement that Freenet will be used for "mass piracy." The thing has enough trouble with html documents!
The free speech Clarke was talking about is obviously speech produced by the person publishing on Freenet, not some other person's song.
Then think of it as an ideal tool to prevent the next SARS outbreak.
Yes there is a reason communism fell, and the RIAA wants to recreate it in the US. When there is a guard posted by every copy machine, the communists will have won!
Maybe gmajor was referring to the fact the Chinese government censored all information about SARS. If an infected people don't know they have a serious disease, they won't go to a hospital. If they don't go to a hospital, they won't be quarantined and will keep spreading the disease until they die.
.rar is not any sort of standard. Since you are going out on a limb, why didn't you just add Microsoft .cab to your list?
Then why don't you send him money for the web hosting and bandwidth costs. At least with P2P, the other users help distribute bandwidth costs so the publisher doesn't have to pay all of it...
I've been using Linux since 1996. Since you are obviously too stupid to do math, 2003-1996= 7 years.
If you read my posing history, you'd know I bash KDE and GNOME all the time. YOU DON'T NEED KDE TO RUN LINUX! My system works fine without it. If you think KDE has anything to do with Linux, you are the one who doesn't know shit about technology.
Since when did I say Linux didn't have any weaknesses? "Maybe Linux isn't the greatest kernel which could ever be made..." Does that sound like I said Linux doesn't have any weaknesses? Your "(like, say, in WinNT)" statement shows you were saying Linux is worst than the shittiest group of operating systems (Windows) I have ever seen, and I've been using computers for two decades.
In fact, I have started migrating over to FreeBSD because I think it's better, and I don't have to worry about Stallman's crap. GNU politics suck--though they're better than M$ politics.
As opposed to what? Microsoft Windows? Ha. You are full of shit. Maybe Linux isn't the greatest kernel which could ever be made, but because of M$'s anti-competitive tactics, we may never see such a kernel. Microsoft's software is a thousand times more lame than anything Linus ever put out.
Not modular? Have you ever worked with the Linux kernel? Not stable? You must really be on crack. The only unstable elements of Linux I have found are things clearly marked as experimental. On a regular basis, Microsoft releases software for general consumption which is highly unstable. The main reason I initially stopped using Microsoft products was because they produce fucked up pieces of shit.
I have never seen a non-experimental Linux kernel which is more unstable than the crap Microsoft puts out. No, it doesn't count when Red Hat grabs something out of CVS, adds a bunch of experimental patches, and reversions it as "stable." Red Hat != Linux.
If you want to know the real reason hardware vendors are reluctant to support non-M$ systems, you should check out the anti-trust case against M$. It shows why companies are afraid to support competing products.
So you're saying they should do a bunch of development work and get nothing out of it. Open source developers aren't your slaves. They have reasons to do what they do. Just because you can't get a free ride from them doesn't mean they are bastards.
Go back to Redmond you lying Micro$oft shill.