Shrug and keep doing what they do? I really don't see, regardless of legality of it (if it is even true), people just tossing away as much work as they have put into linux. SCO is desperate for money or a buyout and they are making things much worse for themselves now by alienating their customers... They won't exist much longer no matter what the end result is (buyout, flush, etc.)
... SCO is getting desperate. So they tackle one group of people in court who have the resources, trademarks, etc to totally crush them. Then they alienate about 90% of their potenial customer base. Raw stupid. Although after having been forced to admin sco once upon a time, I can attest that most of the things they do don't make a tremendous ammount of sense...
> And I think the majority of Slashdotters do not > consider their time to be worth anything. Hence > the fondness for Linux and complaints about > Apple's service.
My time is worth at least 60$/hr. At this rate setting up a mac costs me about 30$ or less. Setting up linux costs me about 180$ Setting up windows costs me 60$ roughly. Finding apps for the mac that I want will run me about 320$ Finding apps for linux I want will run me about 120$ and finding the apps for windows I want will run me about 60$. Ongoing maintenance for the mac will run me about 60$. Maintenance on the linux box will cost me about 60$ and maintenance on the windows pc will run me about 240$ (between formats... which will need done 1-3 times between reformatting the mac and the linux box.)
Anymore mac and linux come out in the same ballpark... windows is the real time killer, maintenance of windows reeks. Spend more time fixing stupid problems caused by power outages and incompatibilities than I have ever spent on a mac or linux.
I've done unix for years at work so I fly through it... were I a total newbie I have no doubt a mac would be quicker and easier... even windows would be (until the first time something breaks... aka about a week.)
Shrug. It's all personal choice and opinion. For me linux is cheapest... also consider that I didn't include any OS prices in the list... that would bump windows and mac further up the list and linux down. Also don't forget macs have effectively unique hardware and end up costing alot more to purchase initially (I won't even get into the arguement of speed vs price.) A 'fast' x86 and an equiv mac are two different price scales all togeather (the mac being much more.)
> after using the applse site I realized what > steve jobs was saying when he pointed out on > cnn that using Kazza is like paying yourself > minimum wages since you can only get 5 songs (= > 5 dollars) in a hours worth of work!!!
Yah, that's why I use iMesh. It works, it downloads from multiple sources, rates files on the chance of actually getting them (how many places have the file), and the search is only 'poor' rather than 'utter crap'.
Never had good luck with anything but Napster (originally), iMesh, and irc for finding songs I want.
You can't, it's part of the punishment for defending the undefendable, aka macs, christianity, Jr, etc. Strangely enough the rest of the world ENJOYs that music... hmm.
You know my thought is this on computers (not so much relative to extras around home, but especially in corporate enviroments) since you can now buy an intel 1.0ghz+ machine for under 200$ with a decent mb with integrated sound and video... why bother with old 133/166/266s?
Oh I fully agree about the president, he's humpin anyone who isn't a millionaire... but did the people who helped elect him expect anything different (including those who didn't bother to vote)? Trickle down economics again... just like daddy, regan... *sigh*.
However, I do not agree that I'm a racist. How many start at poverty level ceo's do you see? Not a whole lot, white or otherwise. I'm also willing to bet that the majority of minority ceo's are also from families with money. My only real issue is that from where I stand and look, I don't see racism, I see discrimination based on income... and I think confusing it with racism is a mistake alot of people make.
... I was kinda disappointed, why the hulk, there are much better movies they could have made. The hulk is a pretty poor choice although it does invoke some nogstolgia.
No, I'm saying everyone is lazy, white, black, whatever skin color doesn't matter. Like I said, color isn't so much the issue these days its more monetary status.
> The kind of unwitting reverse racism you > have espoused makes me ill
Your comments makes me ill, I'm so damn sick and tired of this 'oh xxx is so repressed bs.' There are alot of paths available to non-caucasians who CHOOSE to look beyond those three choices... and lets be real here, if we are getting into discriminated against minorities, black are at the bottom of the list, asians receive more descrimination in society today, hispanics, etc. because generally not only do they have caucasians discriminating against them they have *shock* black discriminating against them *shock*.
*Anyone* who chooses to do something with their life will. Anyone who offloads responsibility for the way their life goes on to society won't and they will be drain on society, and there are increasingly more caucasians that fall into that catagory.
The only real discrimination in society today is economic. Period. If you are low income, it doesn't matter if you are black, white, yellow, red, orange, or polka-dotted... you are descriminated against, you will be passed over, you will miss out, but even then you can move beyond that, it just takes alot more work.
That is the root of the problem right there, work. People think society owes them, got news, society doesn't owe anyone shit... be you white, be you black, be you hispanic, be you asian, be you whatever, if you don't like your place in the world-- do. something. about. it. Don't sit and whine about how you can't do anything because society is holding you down, just get off yer ass and take responsibility for your own actions and do whatever you need to do to reach your goals.
No matter your race it takes a ton of work to get from the lower eschelon's of society to the upper... and if you are truely determined and willing to go the distance the only thing that can stop you is yourself.
> If you run an IT department, don't hire crooks. > No matter HOW good they say they are, a trained > professional without a criminal record is a > thousand times better than some thug who has > spent his youth trying to make lives for people > like me a misery.
[SARCASM]Right. Hire the guy just out of college who has no experience in security whatsoever. He definetly knows all of the ins and outs of security and auditing security. He will quickly find and patch for all new security holes and knows what resources to search through to find the most up to date information; because we all know that college is current, up to date, and vastly superior to real world experience in a field.[/SARCASM]
Whatever, hire the best person for the job period all things included.
I've worked as an admin since I was 17 (~10 years ago) years old and I've seen a slew of security people come and go, one of the best was a guy who was at the company before me and had gotten the job by rooting the shell server and then from there rooting every other machine on the network. After his hire they never had another breach until well after he left and the new security admin (with his big masters degree) started.
Oh I agree, but if someone is given the game to review the editor should be required to run the review they turn in. They should not be able to pay the reviewer a killfee and shitcan the review because they don't want to put a review up about x game under x rating.
Bullshit. Hands down bullshit, I know professional reviewers, they won't even get stuff past the editors if they give an a-list title below a 7. You can't tell me (especially after MOO3) that all a-list titles are worth a 7.
I think the min specs on games are fairly a fair indication of the real requirements, minimum specs is the slowest speed the game will execute at and be playable if you dont mind turning down/off all effects and dont mind a low frame rate.
However, the recommended spec is misleading, usually it's about 80% of what it should be. Recommended spec should be 100% full on maxed out and runs at a good speed or should just say "They've not made a pc yet that runs this game adaquetly. Check back in 2004."
Actually the NES Contra was UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A [SELECT] START. The code was very nearly that for life force and contra 2 also. I believe the code you are listing is for contra 2 on the nes.
Hmm, but when the future arrives it is no longer the future, it is the present, and then instantly the past, thus any invention I create in the future will be created instead in the present and the rapidly the past, thus your patent doesn't apply. Nod. Sure. Works here.
... it appears someone forgot to add the tags around the statement "Our government only wants to protect us, and would never misuse technology."
She is right however, our government would never misuse technology, they would use it exactly as it is intended, just like the Patriot act. Right? right? oh... paypal... nm.
... many patents and trademarks and what not that this basically ammounts to sco shooting off their mouth. It's like pulling a knife on someone who is in a tank.
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Shrug and keep doing what they do? I really don't see, regardless of legality of it (if it is even true), people just tossing away as much work as they have put into linux. SCO is desperate for money or a buyout and they are making things much worse for themselves now by alienating their customers... They won't exist much longer no matter what the end result is (buyout, flush, etc.)
... SCO is getting desperate. So they tackle one group of people in court who have the resources, trademarks, etc to totally crush them. Then they alienate about 90% of their potenial customer base. Raw stupid. Although after having been forced to admin sco once upon a time, I can attest that most of the things they do don't make a tremendous ammount of sense...
> And I think the majority of Slashdotters do not
> consider their time to be worth anything. Hence
> the fondness for Linux and complaints about
> Apple's service.
My time is worth at least 60$/hr. At this rate setting up a mac costs me about 30$ or less. Setting up linux costs me about 180$ Setting up windows costs me 60$ roughly. Finding apps for the mac that I want will run me about 320$ Finding apps for linux I want will run me about 120$ and finding the apps for windows I want will run me about 60$. Ongoing maintenance for the mac will run me about 60$. Maintenance on the linux box will cost me about 60$ and maintenance on the windows pc will run me about 240$ (between formats... which will need done 1-3 times between reformatting the mac and the linux box.)
So end cost is something like:
Mac: 30+320+60=410$
Lnx: 180+120+60=360$
Win: 60+60+(240*2)=600$
Anymore mac and linux come out in the same ballpark... windows is the real time killer, maintenance of windows reeks. Spend more time fixing stupid problems caused by power outages and incompatibilities than I have ever spent on a mac or linux.
I've done unix for years at work so I fly through it... were I a total newbie I have no doubt a mac would be quicker and easier... even windows would be (until the first time something breaks... aka about a week.)
Shrug. It's all personal choice and opinion. For me linux is cheapest... also consider that I didn't include any OS prices in the list... that would bump windows and mac further up the list and linux down. Also don't forget macs have effectively unique hardware and end up costing alot more to purchase initially (I won't even get into the arguement of speed vs price.) A 'fast' x86 and an equiv mac are two different price scales all togeather (the mac being much more.)
> after using the applse site I realized what
> steve jobs was saying when he pointed out on
> cnn that using Kazza is like paying yourself
> minimum wages since you can only get 5 songs (=
> 5 dollars) in a hours worth of work!!!
Yah, that's why I use iMesh. It works, it downloads from multiple sources, rates files on the chance of actually getting them (how many places have the file), and the search is only 'poor' rather than 'utter crap'.
Never had good luck with anything but Napster (originally), iMesh, and irc for finding songs I want.
You can't, it's part of the punishment for defending the undefendable, aka macs, christianity, Jr, etc. Strangely enough the rest of the world ENJOYs that music... hmm.
[Yah yah i know, mod me down.]
Actually to be more honest, the users don't prevent us from having the security measures we would like... nor do the developers!
It's our damn bosses.
1) Fire Boss
You know my thought is this on computers (not so much relative to extras around home, but especially in corporate enviroments) since you can now buy an intel 1.0ghz+ machine for under 200$ with a decent mb with integrated sound and video... why bother with old 133/166/266s?
It was most likely quite intentional and a joke :)
Oh I fully agree about the president, he's humpin anyone who isn't a millionaire... but did the people who helped elect him expect anything different (including those who didn't bother to vote)? Trickle down economics again... just like daddy, regan... *sigh*.
However, I do not agree that I'm a racist. How many start at poverty level ceo's do you see? Not a whole lot, white or otherwise. I'm also willing to bet that the majority of minority ceo's are also from families with money. My only real issue is that from where I stand and look, I don't see racism, I see discrimination based on income... and I think confusing it with racism is a mistake alot of people make.
Hulk SMASH!
a functional plot? :)
... I was kinda disappointed, why the hulk, there are much better movies they could have made. The hulk is a pretty poor choice although it does invoke some nogstolgia.
No, I'm saying everyone is lazy, white, black, whatever skin color doesn't matter. Like I said, color isn't so much the issue these days its more monetary status.
> The kind of unwitting reverse racism you
> have espoused makes me ill
Your comments makes me ill, I'm so damn sick and tired of this 'oh xxx is so repressed bs.' There are alot of paths available to non-caucasians who CHOOSE to look beyond those three choices... and lets be real here, if we are getting into discriminated against minorities, black are at the bottom of the list, asians receive more descrimination in society today, hispanics, etc. because generally not only do they have caucasians discriminating against them they have *shock* black discriminating against them *shock*.
*Anyone* who chooses to do something with their life will. Anyone who offloads responsibility for the way their life goes on to society won't and they will be drain on society, and there are increasingly more caucasians that fall into that catagory.
The only real discrimination in society today is economic. Period. If you are low income, it doesn't matter if you are black, white, yellow, red, orange, or polka-dotted... you are descriminated against, you will be passed over, you will miss out, but even then you can move beyond that, it just takes alot more work.
That is the root of the problem right there, work. People think society owes them, got news, society doesn't owe anyone shit... be you white, be you black, be you hispanic, be you asian, be you whatever, if you don't like your place in the world-- do. something. about. it. Don't sit and whine about how you can't do anything because society is holding you down, just get off yer ass and take responsibility for your own actions and do whatever you need to do to reach your goals.
No matter your race it takes a ton of work to get from the lower eschelon's of society to the upper... and if you are truely determined and willing to go the distance the only thing that can stop you is yourself.
> If you run an IT department, don't hire crooks.
> No matter HOW good they say they are, a trained
> professional without a criminal record is a
> thousand times better than some thug who has
> spent his youth trying to make lives for people
> like me a misery.
[SARCASM]Right. Hire the guy just out of college who has no experience in security whatsoever. He definetly knows all of the ins and outs of security and auditing security. He will quickly find and patch for all new security holes and knows what resources to search through to find the most up to date information; because we all know that college is current, up to date, and vastly superior to real world experience in a field.[/SARCASM]
Whatever, hire the best person for the job period all things included.
I've worked as an admin since I was 17 (~10 years ago) years old and I've seen a slew of security people come and go, one of the best was a guy who was at the company before me and had gotten the job by rooting the shell server and then from there rooting every other machine on the network. After his hire they never had another breach until well after he left and the new security admin (with his big masters degree) started.
Oh I agree, but if someone is given the game to review the editor should be required to run the review they turn in. They should not be able to pay the reviewer a killfee and shitcan the review because they don't want to put a review up about x game under x rating.
Bullshit. Hands down bullshit, I know professional reviewers, they won't even get stuff past the editors if they give an a-list title below a 7. You can't tell me (especially after MOO3) that all a-list titles are worth a 7.
Yah pretty much. The only game it didn't really apply to was the very very very early FPS games... (W3D, Doom (first room!)) after that... yah.
I think the min specs on games are fairly a fair indication of the real requirements, minimum specs is the slowest speed the game will execute at and be playable if you dont mind turning down/off all effects and dont mind a low frame rate.
However, the recommended spec is misleading, usually it's about 80% of what it should be. Recommended spec should be 100% full on maxed out and runs at a good speed or should just say "They've not made a pc yet that runs this game adaquetly. Check back in 2004."
Actually the NES Contra was UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A [SELECT] START. The code was very nearly that for life force and contra 2 also. I believe the code you are listing is for contra 2 on the nes.
Hmm, but when the future arrives it is no longer the future, it is the present, and then instantly the past, thus any invention I create in the future will be created instead in the present and the rapidly the past, thus your patent doesn't apply. Nod. Sure. Works here.
... it appears someone forgot to add the tags around the statement "Our government only wants to protect us, and would never misuse technology."
She is right however, our government would never misuse technology, they would use it exactly as it is intended, just like the Patriot act. Right? right? oh... paypal... nm.
I came in here to post army of darkness, and what do I see? First thread? Army of darkness, Hail to the king baby!
actually batman in the comics isn't adverse to a bit of murder here and there... big on the greatest good theory.
... many patents and trademarks and what not that this basically ammounts to sco shooting off their mouth. It's like pulling a knife on someone who is in a tank.