What about services? A good massage can't be "replicated"... this applys to the live performance of any artform. When production costs for necessary goods goes to zero, services will still exist to be traded.
I believe the poster was refering to a pattern that is developing. We don't own software that we buy, we own permission to use it in accordance with the manner in which it was meant for us to use it. Likewise, music and movies are hoping to be reclassified as software. You might have bought the DVD, but only play it under the OSes we say are allowed. It really comes down to control.
*not* porting! Recompiling. Without source compatibility you'd have to port. Porting from Linux to Windows MFC would suck, but recompiling under Cygwin is *much* simpler.
Funny, but thats exactly what I did when I took Java in college. We were required to turn in disks with both source and byte-compiled files. Everything byte-compiled on Linux (w/ Sun Java) ran on Win2k (w/ Sun Java) without exception.:-) Disturbed the instructor, which was a special bonus;-)
"Secure from itself." I've wondered why Lisp hasn't seen use for this very reason. Languages that aren't capable of core dumping seems like a good thing.
It was not wrong. Peace, Love, and Freedom aren't inappropriate in a free society. Peace, Love, and Linux is a subset thereof. If McDonalds brought out a veggy burger that was *cheap* and donanted all proceeds to feed the world's starving...then Peace, Love, "feeding the starving" would be ok on the sidewalks. There is a qualitative difference that IBM's marketing "got", that you don't get.:-)
Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1)
that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2)
that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
Come on, a blind person has to have this level of access to be able to use the damn eBook!
"Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -
an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine, or
(2)
that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."
The real problem with the DMCA is that in I was unable to present material to my lab students even though I had fair use rights to said material. Likewise, fair use rights for research is denied. It should be illegal for any law to denie me my rights, yes? You have the right to be silent, but not to speak is a felony. You have the right to an attorny, but speaking to one is also a seperate felony. You have the right not to incriminate yourself. But not to answer the question is punishable by death.
So sad. Peace is war, light is dark, wet is dry...
If one blind person has used it, thats enough. Weigh that one persons gain from *READING* to adobe's right to make them read ebooks "like everybody else".
If its true that the "product" wasn't sold in the USA, but rather the "key to the locker in Russia" where the product is legal and actually physically located, then you should be wrong. Is it illegal for me to own a car that would be illegal in the USA if I keep it in a country where it is legal? Or should having the "pink slip" be enough?
Your putting the best possible face on the illegal act.
You make that sound like its a bad thing. When laws are immoral or illegal, then the "best face" to which you refer has lost less face than those following the law. You could just as easily change it to be a talk about "how to help slaves escape", right? Or "what to do when ordered to open fire on the civilian women and children".
When I hear someone say "regardless of whether the fact that it should be illegal to do so it is", I am sickened.
If it could run Mathematica then most Math, Physics, and Chemistry students would glady replace their calculators. Give it an HP-48 layout, with popup mathematica palettes. Sweet. Data collection? Boring... Wrapping up that late night hairly integral, then polishing off a few PDEs? Priceless.
I assumed the others were trolling, but you seem rational. Do you *really* see MS Windows GUI response as being *faster* than KDE? On the same hardware? Personally, I can ignore how ugly Windows is when I have to...but it burns me up having to wait for it! Click -> hourglass...and nothing else can be done for *seconds* because 2K is already doing something. Really breaks up the train of thought. I triple boot Win2K, 98SE, and SuSE. SuSE feels like a motercycle whereas MS feels like a van.
Win2K *is* more stable than 98, but it did eat a partition in the first 6 months. I've never lost data on the Linux side. Ever. Period.
I'm also a Linux user. I don't use PPC (Athlon), but I've tracked G3 and now G4 because it *is* interesting. I am interested in OS X news, but am just as interested in MOL. Perhaps I do find KDE as effective for what I do as I expect Aqua to be. I'm way more intersted in mathML than PDF. So what? Perhaps I don't see Aqua as breathtaking technology just because its pretty. I do see binary compatibility as a form of beauty. Different strokes? Thats alright.:-)
Wouldn't it mean any frontpage web component? How is web component defined? If I use their Java menu buttons, is that a "web component"? If I used hyperlinked text for my menus am I then safe to speak out?
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What about services? A good massage can't be "replicated"... this applys to the live performance of any artform. When production costs for necessary goods goes to zero, services will still exist to be traded.
I believe the poster was refering to a pattern that is developing. We don't own software that we buy, we own permission to use it in accordance with the manner in which it was meant for us to use it. Likewise, music and movies are hoping to be reclassified as software. You might have bought the DVD, but only play it under the OSes we say are allowed. It really comes down to control.
Exactly! Spam is junk email, not deceptive junk email. To merely filter the deceptive junk out still leaves *junk*.
Python (and eLisp too, for that matter) both have bytecode compilers. Don't know nothin' 'bout perl.
*not* porting! Recompiling. Without source compatibility you'd have to port. Porting from Linux to Windows MFC would suck, but recompiling under Cygwin is *much* simpler.
Funny, but thats exactly what I did when I took Java in college. We were required to turn in disks with both source and byte-compiled files. Everything byte-compiled on Linux (w/ Sun Java) ran on Win2k (w/ Sun Java) without exception. :-) Disturbed the instructor, which was a special bonus ;-)
"Secure from itself." I've wondered why Lisp hasn't seen use for this very reason. Languages that aren't capable of core dumping seems like a good thing.
It was not wrong. Peace, Love, and Freedom aren't inappropriate in a free society. Peace, Love, and Linux is a subset thereof. If McDonalds brought out a veggy burger that was *cheap* and donanted all proceeds to feed the world's starving...then Peace, Love, "feeding the starving" would be ok on the sidewalks. There is a qualitative difference that IBM's marketing "got", that you don't get. :-)
All the really bright people I know smiled. IQ 120 ish less likely. The "normal"s seemed to have a problem...
Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1)
that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2)
that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
Come on, a blind person has to have this level of access to be able to use the damn eBook!
"Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -
an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine, or
(2)
that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."
The real problem with the DMCA is that in I was unable to present material to my lab students even though I had fair use rights to said material. Likewise, fair use rights for research is denied. It should be illegal for any law to denie me my rights, yes? You have the right to be silent, but not to speak is a felony. You have the right to an attorny, but speaking to one is also a seperate felony. You have the right not to incriminate yourself. But not to answer the question is punishable by death.
So sad. Peace is war, light is dark, wet is dry...
If one blind person has used it, thats enough. Weigh that one persons gain from *READING* to adobe's right to make them read ebooks "like everybody else".
If its true that the "product" wasn't sold in the USA, but rather the "key to the locker in Russia" where the product is legal and actually physically located, then you should be wrong. Is it illegal for me to own a car that would be illegal in the USA if I keep it in a country where it is legal? Or should having the "pink slip" be enough?
Your putting the best possible face on the illegal act.
You make that sound like its a bad thing. When laws are immoral or illegal, then the "best face" to which you refer has lost less face than those following the law. You could just as easily change it to be a talk about "how to help slaves escape", right? Or "what to do when ordered to open fire on the civilian women and children".
When I hear someone say "regardless of whether the fact that it should be illegal to do so it is", I am sickened.
It doesn't implement the RFC. Thats the point. If you
begin a line with "begin"...
"thye guy condescends to post here on the topic"
So we should fall to our knees and thank him for gracing this discussion?
Yes.
If it could run Mathematica then most Math, Physics, and Chemistry students would glady replace their calculators. Give it an HP-48 layout, with popup mathematica palettes. Sweet. Data collection? Boring... Wrapping up that late night hairly integral, then polishing off a few PDEs? Priceless.
First: laugh, 'cause thats funny...
Second: worry, because it *is* an "access control mechanism", and we are discussing circumvention measures.
Any reason why resetting the user agent string is not against the DMCA?
I assumed the others were trolling, but you seem rational. Do you *really* see MS Windows GUI response as being *faster* than KDE? On the same hardware? Personally, I can ignore how ugly Windows is when I have to...but it burns me up having to wait for it! Click -> hourglass...and nothing else can be done for *seconds* because 2K is already doing something. Really breaks up the train of thought. I triple boot Win2K, 98SE, and SuSE. SuSE feels like a motercycle whereas MS feels like a van.
Win2K *is* more stable than 98, but it did eat a partition in the first 6 months. I've never lost data on the Linux side. Ever. Period.
Lets just hope they don't make our old systems illegal...
I'm also a Linux user. I don't use PPC (Athlon), but I've tracked G3 and now G4 because it *is* interesting. I am interested in OS X news, but am just as interested in MOL. Perhaps I do find KDE as effective for what I do as I expect Aqua to be. I'm way more intersted in mathML than PDF. So what? Perhaps I don't see Aqua as breathtaking technology just because its pretty. I do see binary compatibility as a form of beauty. Different strokes? Thats alright. :-)
Methinks the Federation Starfleet are more like unto the US Coastguard merged with NOAA and NASA than any DOD subclass.
Well...there is a US Naval Space Command, and also a US Army Space Command, and also an Airforce Space Command.
Wouldn't it mean any frontpage web component? How is web component defined? If I use their Java menu buttons, is that a "web component"? If I used hyperlinked text for my menus am I then safe to speak out?