Here's one: How do you make a 6 year old cry for the second time? Wipe the blood off your d!ck on her teddy bear.
Re:The predicted chain of events according to me
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People who are out of work cannot buy things made by corps who are farming out their labor to other countries.
Very good points. These are things that our ancestors figured out, yet today we haven't learnt anything from history. Look at Henry Ford when he came out with the Model A. He thought it was important for his factory workers to be able to enjoy his product hence the reason why he set the wage of his factory workers quite high...and others followed. If his vehicles were not affordable by Joe Average, then how was he to convince the world they needed a car?
Take away our jobs and you eliminate consumerism. It'll be a a very hard lesson to learn!
The trend for broadband providers right now is capping bandwidth to chargethe customer more. I can picture Mom and Dad's faces when they open the AOL bill to find out little Johnny downloaded a few dozen 800mb games, let alone play them online.
Plus how exactly do you find a game out of a list of 32 000??? I have a hard enough time picking out a game after reading a few reviews and staring at the Walmart showcase for an hour...and they only have a few hundred!!
There is no chance this will ever see production IMO. I'd also like to know who is pumping money into this...I have some land for sale!
Telus is in fact only purchasing the Canadian portion of PSINet. They are not in a position to assume the debt of the entire PSINet operations. It's also not a good option considering that in March this year Merryl Lynch valued the Co. at $500 milion...and they were 3.6 billion under at that time! What is motivating them to purchase the Canadian operations is to obtain an instant presence in the biggest Canadian market, namely Ontario. Bell Canada has always had a dominating presence in the Onario market, and also has a majority stake in Alliant (Eastern provinces). However, Cable & Wireless are in talks to pick up all of PSINet's remaining operations.
It's important to note that bandwidth in Canada is tightly regulated by the government (CRTC). This means that bandwidth is dirt cheap compared to the US. It's actually almost the same price before the 1:1.5 conversion!!
I think in the medium to long run, what we'll be seeing is these companies moving hosting operations to Canada in order to take advantage of this cheap bandwidth, or possibly newcommers setting up shop to satisfy the newly created demand once these companies go under.
The commercialization of the Internet brought many promises of simplifying our lives, which very few companies managed to do. It was simply based on trial and error, which created more errors than successes. This will change however, we have only seen the beginning.
If you stand back and take a look at what worked, you'll quickly realise that it's things that simplify your life or that you can't get elsewhere. Why replace the TV? why replace newspapers? Why replace the radio? Why replace the shopping centre? We have these things already and they've been time-tested and do work!
the things that were improved by going online are the things that have succeded and will continue to do so. Why stand in line at the bank for an hour when you can pay bills and transfer money in 2 minutes behind your computer. At the touch of a keyboard you can get insurance quotes from 50 companies, rather than calling them one by one, thus giving us a better all around experience in the end. What about getting someone's opinion before making an important purchase. The net is full of people lending a hand to others.
The Internet should be viewed as a tool. A tool that simplifies your life. The Internet as a medium to feed us capitalistism at it's worse is slowly dying, so why worry? This should be considered a milestone in the net's history...isn't this what brought us here in the first place?
I work for a major telco in Canada as a product manager, and the problem is not the price of laying fibre, it's the terminating equipment. Many of these companies simply lay fibre hoping that other companies will rent it for their customers. well we can lay a mile of fibre for very cheap, but add a Catalyst 5500 or 5000 or an ATM 36170 and we're talking $70 000+ CAN. Not to mention an FMT150 if we plan on multiplexing (OC3+).
The bandwidth pricing reflect this: the cost of the PVC (which is how we absorb the cost of laying fibre) is approx 1/30th the price of the access. (Which includes the equipment in the CO & on prem)
My point: the cost of fibre is relatively small compared to the cost of terminating equipment, which is why bandwidth is still fairly expensive.
Technological advancements more often than not, develop out of a demand for change, expansion and improvements. Therefore these demands produced the deployment of these technologies.
What we are seeing at this point, is the users not liking the corporations running it (telcos) Therefore if the telecommunications industry does not respond immediately to the demand for the bandwidth to support such applications, someone else will. The "telephone companies" could be taken over by the internet (voice over IP)
My point? If their business model is not adjusted, we could be in for a surprise when other corporations answer to our call. Therfore Dvorak could be in for a shoker because this will happen in the next 5 years. Dvorak is very opiniated technology wise but as far as I know from reading his work, his economics sense is very poor.
People also often use broadband to describe something that it isn't. In terms of bandwidth, transmission can be categorized as narrowband, wideband and broadband. Narrowband is currently defined as supporting transmission speed up to and including T-1 i.e 1.544Mbps. Wideband is multi-channel capacity that is between 1.544Mbps and 45Mbps according to US standards also known as E1 standards. Technically speaking, broadband is defined as a multi-channel transmission facility that operates at rates greater than 1.544Mbps. HOWEVER, as the parameters of wideband are defined as 1.544Mbps and 45Mbps, many consider broadband as being 45Mbps and greater. (Greater than 34Mbps according to international standards.)
Therefore, IMHO we are indeed a decade away from seeing "REAL" residential broadband
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Here's one: How do you make a 6 year old cry for the second time? Wipe the blood off your d!ck on her teddy bear.
People who are out of work cannot buy things made by corps who are farming out their labor to other countries.
Very good points. These are things that our ancestors figured out, yet today we haven't learnt anything from history. Look at Henry Ford when he came out with the Model A. He thought it was important for his factory workers to be able to enjoy his product hence the reason why he set the wage of his factory workers quite high...and others followed. If his vehicles were not affordable by Joe Average, then how was he to convince the world they needed a car?
Take away our jobs and you eliminate consumerism. It'll be a a very hard lesson to learn!
The trend for broadband providers right now is capping bandwidth to chargethe customer more. I can picture Mom and Dad's faces when they open the AOL bill to find out little Johnny downloaded a few dozen 800mb games, let alone play them online.
Plus how exactly do you find a game out of a list of 32 000??? I have a hard enough time picking out a game after reading a few reviews and staring at the Walmart showcase for an hour...and they only have a few hundred!!
There is no chance this will ever see production IMO. I'd also like to know who is pumping money into this...I have some land for sale!
Here's the story from news.com
Telus is in fact only purchasing the Canadian portion of PSINet. They are not in a position to assume the debt of the entire PSINet operations. It's also not a good option considering that in March this year Merryl Lynch valued the Co. at $500 milion...and they were 3.6 billion under at that time! What is motivating them to purchase the Canadian operations is to obtain an instant presence in the biggest Canadian market, namely Ontario. Bell Canada has always had a dominating presence in the Onario market, and also has a majority stake in Alliant (Eastern provinces). However, Cable & Wireless are in talks to pick up all of PSINet's remaining operations.
It's important to note that bandwidth in Canada is tightly regulated by the government (CRTC). This means that bandwidth is dirt cheap compared to the US. It's actually almost the same price before the 1:1.5 conversion!!
I think in the medium to long run, what we'll be seeing is these companies moving hosting operations to Canada in order to take advantage of this cheap bandwidth, or possibly newcommers setting up shop to satisfy the newly created demand once these companies go under.
The commercialization of the Internet brought many promises of simplifying our lives, which very few companies managed to do. It was simply based on trial and error, which created more errors than successes. This will change however, we have only seen the beginning.
If you stand back and take a look at what worked, you'll quickly realise that it's things that simplify your life or that you can't get elsewhere. Why replace the TV? why replace newspapers? Why replace the radio? Why replace the shopping centre? We have these things already and they've been time-tested and do work!
the things that were improved by going online are the things that have succeded and will continue to do so. Why stand in line at the bank for an hour when you can pay bills and transfer money in 2 minutes behind your computer. At the touch of a keyboard you can get insurance quotes from 50 companies, rather than calling them one by one, thus giving us a better all around experience in the end. What about getting someone's opinion before making an important purchase. The net is full of people lending a hand to others.
The Internet should be viewed as a tool. A tool that simplifies your life. The Internet as a medium to feed us capitalistism at it's worse is slowly dying, so why worry? This should be considered a milestone in the net's history...isn't this what brought us here in the first place?
I work for a major telco in Canada as a product manager, and the problem is not the price of laying fibre, it's the terminating equipment. Many of these companies simply lay fibre hoping that other companies will rent it for their customers. well we can lay a mile of fibre for very cheap, but add a Catalyst 5500 or 5000 or an ATM 36170 and we're talking $70 000+ CAN. Not to mention an FMT150 if we plan on multiplexing (OC3+).
The bandwidth pricing reflect this: the cost of the PVC (which is how we absorb the cost of laying fibre) is approx 1/30th the price of the access. (Which includes the equipment in the CO & on prem)
My point: the cost of fibre is relatively small compared to the cost of terminating equipment, which is why bandwidth is still fairly expensive.
Technological advancements more often than not, develop out of a demand for change, expansion and improvements. Therefore these demands produced the deployment of these technologies. What we are seeing at this point, is the users not liking the corporations running it (telcos) Therefore if the telecommunications industry does not respond immediately to the demand for the bandwidth to support such applications, someone else will. The "telephone companies" could be taken over by the internet (voice over IP) My point? If their business model is not adjusted, we could be in for a surprise when other corporations answer to our call. Therfore Dvorak could be in for a shoker because this will happen in the next 5 years. Dvorak is very opiniated technology wise but as far as I know from reading his work, his economics sense is very poor. People also often use broadband to describe something that it isn't. In terms of bandwidth, transmission can be categorized as narrowband, wideband and broadband. Narrowband is currently defined as supporting transmission speed up to and including T-1 i.e 1.544Mbps. Wideband is multi-channel capacity that is between 1.544Mbps and 45Mbps according to US standards also known as E1 standards. Technically speaking, broadband is defined as a multi-channel transmission facility that operates at rates greater than 1.544Mbps. HOWEVER, as the parameters of wideband are defined as 1.544Mbps and 45Mbps, many consider broadband as being 45Mbps and greater. (Greater than 34Mbps according to international standards.) Therefore, IMHO we are indeed a decade away from seeing "REAL" residential broadband