Funny that you should use "Oracle" as an example of something that is not Linux.
"Oracle Database" is obviously not an operating system at all.
It's quite pathetic actually to hear them refer to Oracle as 'Linux' or 'that linux stuff'. Same for Opera, Safari, Perl, Java, Apache, even the iPhone. M$ top execs often use the term that way. It just shows their view of the world as tinted through the religion of Microsoft.
I notice how you use the new post year 2000 coup d'etat spelling. God forbid you use the regular spelling, "Osama bin Laden", and find that the administrations of Big Bush and Reagan not only heavily financed and trained his whole group but also held that scum up as a "freedom fighter" and hero.
The net, with the centralization of both sources and indexing/retrieval are making Revisionist history possible in ways barely even dreamed of by fascists, real or from literature.
Currently we have the unfortunate situation where people inside insurance companies determine who gets treated and what specific treatments they get, even down to the details. Those people inside the insurance companies are often MBAs and through control of the purse strings, a 23-year old MBA with not even one term of science can override a medical specialist with three decades of professional experience.
Where is the value-added that we get from insurance companies? Oh. I see. There isn't any.
"Welcome to Urgent Care. Please have a seat / lie on the floor and wait your turn for your case to be addressed. Your turn will be selected based on quarterly profitability estimates."
The U.S. Navy's and Marine Corp's NMCI computing infrastructure is all Windows XP. Let's see whether or not Microsoft withholds a patch from them.
Since 2008, the US Navy will acquire only systems based on open technologies and standards. That excludes M$ products explicitly in every way but name. The TCP/IP being just one example of failure on M$ part to implement standards. US Navy is ditching M$.
They'll probably go with an American company like Red Hat or roll their own spin of Red Hat.
The question remaining is will Bill's father's political connections keep lil Bill out of Camp X-Ray or not? If you've got Windows on your network, then you have a personnel problem, not just a network security problem.
Here's what Be's CEO Jean-Louis Gassée had to say in 2001 about what happened:
There is no technical reason why CompUSA customers shouldn't be able to walk out of the shop with a machine that asks "Which OS do you want to use today?" upon boot. And yet, even today [2001], after several years of relentless news about how Linux is ready for the general desktop and business customer, one does not find dual-boot ...
A few years ago, Be's CEO Jean-Louis Gassée used the phrase "peaceful co-existence with Windows" to describe his company's intended relationship with Microsoft on the consumer's hard drive. Later, when it became clear that Microsoft had no intention of co-existing with a rival OS vendor peacefully, Gassée recanted, saying, "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it."
We could have had close to 10 years of use out of this really good Be OS in schools, products, and businesses, if not for Microserfs and Microsofters. Apple needs to learn from Be Inc. and clean out the nails Microsofters set in its track while there's still an Apple Computer .
The time is over for putting up with promoters of M$, especially those inside other businesses.
Eight years the wiser.
So happy together then?
Don't bend down again.
Be OS was a very good OS so we should see good things from Haiku, too. The niche it filled will be different today for Haiku, but still highly relevant. Netbooks are all the rage now. I expect it will be tried there first.
"hv (Microsoft Hyper-V) drivers. Over 200 patches make up the massive cleanup effort needed to just get this code into a semi-sane kernel coding style (someone owes me a bit bottle of rum for that work!) Unfortunately the Microsoft developers seem to have disappeared, and no one is answering my emails. If they do not show back up to claim this driver soon, it will be removed in the 2.6.33 release. So sad..."
I'm not shocked. M$ reputation is so bad that this kind of behavior is not a surprise.
Was is a bit of a shock is that GKH actually wasted one minute longer than rejecting the fake drivers with a missive to "hold off on re-submission of the code until it actually works" What happened to the idea of showing something that works? There used to be pretty strict guidelines about coding style and what is and isn't acceptable, including having some working code first.
Anyway, what are these so-called developers from M$ off doing while the Linux team is cleaning up from this hit and run?
No, they were violating the GPL.
They had to at least give source to their customers.
Rather than to continue to do that they made this driver the kernel maintainers problem. If they don't want to help maintain it, I say drop it from the kernel.
It was a twofer. MS weaseled out of punishment for license violation ( GPL ) and at the same time
just shat in the kernel maintainers' collective pocket.
Denial of Service attacks work in meatspace, too. The maintainers have no obligation to burn up hours coding and supporting someone else's abandonware.
For that matter, so do injection attacks. For example, find out who gave the order to install any given Windows server, assuming you can still find one these days. No one will 'fess up.
I'm really sick of all these attempts to make Google look bad out of something from which they rather should be made heroes, which reminds me a not-too-old / story. The copyright law was completely fucked up by the current opponents to the settlement and their predecessors, and NO, a first grant of the sort doesn't imply monopoly (really, why are these morons talking about "exclusivity", "imperialist ambitions", "monopoly"?), and on the contrary it'll be a major shift for book avaibility and affordability. If Google was another Microsoft, we would be 10 years backward, Internet features-wise.
Above all, why are these morons moaning about the "opt out" issue while they can just opt out ? Ohhh, maybe trying to protect the naive and uninformed, who does not care at all about his old works ?
The critics about OCR and metadata generation quality should really look at what the concurrence does, i.e respectively similar quality and nothing at all.
I've just read a Teleread comment which says he/she wants to bar Google from scanning books because of the OCR quality, we are in the total FUD non-sense here.
That is part of one of M$ screw Google marketing campaigns. Actually, it's a lobbying campaign. M$ has been a political activist movement for a long time now. Time to adjust our treatment of it accordingly.
There could also be technical limitations placed, such as making the popular media players only play "licensed" media. I could definitely see a company like Apple or Sony making their players only play files that come from the big corporate copyright holders. Hell, that's been their plan for a long time, but the homebrew and hacker communities kept defeating them. I don't believe they're ready to give up on the "gated community" view of culture, though.
Go one step further, and they will even restrict what you read, its not just about music and video 'media'.
Go even one step further than that, and they will restrict who can read, listen or watch to a subset of those who are customers in good standing of specific campaign donors. Your congressman's eyes will glaze over when you talk about open standards or net neutrality. Request campaign donor-independent media formats or campaign donor-independent net access.
Be aware that there are two different pinouts for the serial port header.
The first is for cable wired as in the parent-linked figure.
The second is for mass-terminated cable.
One of the reasons the photo has the back off of the DB-9, so you can see what the actual the pinouts are.
To paraphrase Louis Agassiz, "Go to the catalog; take the cables into your own hands; look, and see the pinouts for yourself!"
As many others have mentioned, the serial console is the way to go. Even if there's no DB9/DB25 serial port out the back, there's likely at least one serial port header on the motherboard. The header/pinout is generally standard, so go digging in that 'really old parts' box that we all have and see if you can dig up a DB9 port mounted on a plate to mount where a card would normally go. It will have a ribbon cable to attach it to the motherboard...
Very good point. The cables are easy to find, too: e.g. http://www.pccables.com/07120.htm
(That's a random cable picture and not an endorsement of the company. YMMV, Caveat Emptor, etc.)
If that box and another both have serial connections, then use the serial console: Get a null-modem cable. Connect that to another box.
Make sure the you add console=ttyS0,19200n8 or some variation to the append line in your grub entries. On the client side use cu aka tip, minicom or PuTTY to make the serial connection, making sure that bps, parity and stop bits match.
I think the biggest mistake we made was not firing that stupid manager on the spot. But I suppose if we fired managers based solely on incompetent decisions,... well... you know.
Your company would probably make more money than seemed possible in recent years. During the dot-com, a company's probability of success was inversely proportional to the number of Aeron chairs. Companies also took on a lot of MBAs and managers back then. Most imploded.
Compare that to the estimated development costs for your average linux distro run about $1 billion.
So the savings of eradicating MSFT products for just three months would, using those numbers, give enough money to start linux from scratch 9 times over and still break out even. The more polished linux distros are now quite a few years ahead of Windows in most areas. In the areas they aren't $9 billion could buy a lot of improvement. Of that hypothetical $9 billion, it wouldn't cost but a fraction to make Filezilla as nice as Fugu or cyberduck.
Oh, but wait. There's the long tail of the worm. The windows worms run for years.
Microsoft products just aren't engineered for security. Xp, Vista and Vista 7 show us that nothing changes on that front. That's not a technical problem any more, that's an HR problem. Get rid of the MSFT boosters and you raise productivty.
Recession means "lack" of spending behavior, not "lack" of money.
No, actually, it doesn't mean either. It means an overall decline in economic activity across many dimensions taken together, the nearest thing to a single-dimensional rough definition is a decline in production rather than spending. A decline in spending usually occurs during a recession, but its not the same thing as a recession.
How much of that decline was spend cleaning up M$ malware? It looks like several tens of billions of dollars per year down the drain. I bet for 5 we could convert any M$ holdouts in the public and private sector over to desktops with customize { Openbox | Fluxbox | Xcfe | KDE } on { Linux | BSD | Solaris }. Removing any remnant M$ servers would be even faster and cheaper.
Then there is the problem of the soporific "M$ Look and Feel" Work that used to take an afternoon before M$ now takes most of several whole days to a week. However, the "M$ Look and Feel" is "so nice once you get used to it."
In this case, it's a terrible sign that the Japanese are so fed up with investing in the US that they now see hurling money into space as a better alternative.
Yeah but if it works, it'll generate income, there is a risk/reward here, unlike the Keynes "bury money in a mine" scenario.
I could make a smartass remark here about how the US government decided to bury millions of dollars in cable underground in the 1960s, connecting universities and research institutions with an inefficient government boondoggle...
Speaking of shooting money into space,
you'll also notice that we didn't get integrated circuits to build computers with until after that wasteful Apollo program. The obvious conclusion is that government interference cause the Apollo program to prevent the genious MBAs from being able to sell their integrated circuits for at least a decade.
If they stopped flusing so much of their operational budget on M$ problems and products they libraries would have more money and more time to work with that money. Seriously, nearly every action or function of M$ has gone against the ALA Bill of Rights.
Sure there are potential concerns with Google Books. These are small compared to the ongoing, increasing problems posed by M$ products and methods. Librarians have been standing by and in some cases helping M$ flunkies to increase the Digital Divide rather than close it.
Then again, Google is a technical or legal problem. Microsoft is a people problem.
I see a ton of people like this in my day to day work and since they have a narrower view of the world (who knows if this is actually less intelligence or not though I often interpret it that way) they are much happier.
"Alpha children wear grey They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfuly glad I'm a Beta "
GSM only authenticates one way, not both, so it is almost ideal setup for man in the middle attacks. One of the presentations at last year's CCC, the
25C3 covered this, but you can find plenty of older and newer material on it elsewhere.
Any GSM phone-based payment system has some big challenges. GPRS could be better, since you can then run something behind SSL or SSH. However, even then, when it comes to money, the designers must design the system on the assumption that the network is insecure, perhaps even the endpoints.
Yes rendering is done by Flash. But since Flash is installed in about 95% of computers that is not much of a problem. Not that I'm a big fan of Flash though.
Flash is not a campaign donor-independent file format.
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Funny that you should use "Oracle" as an example of something that is not Linux.
"Oracle Database" is obviously not an operating system at all.
It's quite pathetic actually to hear them refer to Oracle as 'Linux' or 'that linux stuff'. Same for Opera, Safari, Perl, Java, Apache, even the iPhone. M$ top execs often use the term that way. It just shows their view of the world as tinted through the religion of Microsoft.
Well, Usama bin Laden said
I notice how you use the new post year 2000 coup d'etat spelling. God forbid you use the regular spelling, "Osama bin Laden", and find that the administrations of Big Bush and Reagan not only heavily financed and trained his whole group but also held that scum up as a "freedom fighter" and hero.
The net, with the centralization of both sources and indexing/retrieval are making Revisionist history possible in ways barely even dreamed of by fascists, real or from literature.
Currently we have the unfortunate situation where people inside insurance companies determine who gets treated and what specific treatments they get, even down to the details. Those people inside the insurance companies are often MBAs and through control of the purse strings, a 23-year old MBA with not even one term of science can override a medical specialist with three decades of professional experience.
Where is the value-added that we get from insurance companies? Oh. I see. There isn't any.
"Welcome to Urgent Care. Please have a seat / lie on the floor and wait your turn for your case to be addressed. Your turn will be selected based on quarterly profitability estimates."
Why on earth would you even look at that? It's so 1990's.
X-Plane is available on OS X and Linux. It's far more extensible and customizable, anyway.
The U.S. Navy's and Marine Corp's NMCI computing infrastructure is all Windows XP. Let's see whether or not Microsoft withholds a patch from them.
Since 2008, the US Navy will acquire only systems based on open technologies and standards. That excludes M$ products explicitly in every way but name. The TCP/IP being just one example of failure on M$ part to implement standards. US Navy is ditching M$.
They'll probably go with an American company like Red Hat or roll their own spin of Red Hat.
The question remaining is will Bill's father's political connections keep lil Bill out of Camp X-Ray or not? If you've got Windows on your network, then you have a personnel problem, not just a network security problem.
Haiku is not a Linux distro nor is it based on Linux.
To microsofters, everything except M$ products is called "linux". That includes OS X, Oracle and, now, Haiku.
Here's what Be's CEO Jean-Louis Gassée had to say in 2001 about what happened:
We could have had close to 10 years of use out of this really good Be OS in schools, products, and businesses, if not for Microserfs and Microsofters. Apple needs to learn from Be Inc. and clean out the nails Microsofters set in its track while there's still an Apple Computer . The time is over for putting up with promoters of M$, especially those inside other businesses.
Eight years the wiser.
So happy together then?
Don't bend down again.
Be OS was a very good OS so we should see good things from Haiku, too. The niche it filled will be different today for Haiku, but still highly relevant. Netbooks are all the rage now. I expect it will be tried there first.
From the blog,
"hv (Microsoft Hyper-V) drivers. Over 200 patches make up the massive cleanup effort needed to just get this code into a semi-sane kernel coding style (someone owes me a bit bottle of rum for that work!) Unfortunately the Microsoft developers seem to have disappeared, and no one is answering my emails. If they do not show back up to claim this driver soon, it will be removed in the 2.6.33 release. So sad..."
I'm not shocked. M$ reputation is so bad that this kind of behavior is not a surprise.
Was is a bit of a shock is that GKH actually wasted one minute longer than rejecting the fake drivers with a missive to "hold off on re-submission of the code until it actually works" What happened to the idea of showing something that works? There used to be pretty strict guidelines about coding style and what is and isn't acceptable, including having some working code first.
Anyway, what are these so-called developers from M$ off doing while the Linux team is cleaning up from this hit and run?
No, they were violating the GPL.
They had to at least give source to their customers.
Rather than to continue to do that they made this driver the kernel maintainers problem. If they don't want to help maintain it, I say drop it from the kernel.
It was a twofer. MS weaseled out of punishment for license violation ( GPL ) and at the same time just shat in the kernel maintainers' collective pocket.
Denial of Service attacks work in meatspace, too. The maintainers have no obligation to burn up hours coding and supporting someone else's abandonware.
For that matter, so do injection attacks. For example, find out who gave the order to install any given Windows server, assuming you can still find one these days. No one will 'fess up.
I'm really sick of all these attempts to make Google look bad out of something from which they rather should be made heroes, which reminds me a not-too-old / story. The copyright law was completely fucked up by the current opponents to the settlement and their predecessors, and NO, a first grant of the sort doesn't imply monopoly (really, why are these morons talking about "exclusivity", "imperialist ambitions", "monopoly"?), and on the contrary it'll be a major shift for book avaibility and affordability. If Google was another Microsoft, we would be 10 years backward, Internet features-wise.
Above all, why are these morons moaning about the "opt out" issue while they can just opt out ? Ohhh, maybe trying to protect the naive and uninformed, who does not care at all about his old works ?
The critics about OCR and metadata generation quality should really look at what the concurrence does, i.e respectively similar quality and nothing at all.
I've just read a Teleread comment which says he/she wants to bar Google from scanning books because of the OCR quality, we are in the total FUD non-sense here.
That is part of one of M$ screw Google marketing campaigns. Actually, it's a lobbying campaign. M$ has been a political activist movement for a long time now. Time to adjust our treatment of it accordingly.
There could also be technical limitations placed, such as making the popular media players only play "licensed" media. I could definitely see a company like Apple or Sony making their players only play files that come from the big corporate copyright holders. Hell, that's been their plan for a long time, but the homebrew and hacker communities kept defeating them. I don't believe they're ready to give up on the "gated community" view of culture, though.
Go one step further, and they will even restrict what you read, its not just about music and video 'media'.
Go even one step further than that, and they will restrict who can read, listen or watch to a subset of those who are customers in good standing of specific campaign donors. Your congressman's eyes will glaze over when you talk about open standards or net neutrality. Request campaign donor-independent media formats or campaign donor-independent net access.
Be aware that there are two different pinouts for the serial port header. The first is for cable wired as in the parent-linked figure. The second is for mass-terminated cable.
One of the reasons the photo has the back off of the DB-9, so you can see what the actual the pinouts are.
To paraphrase Louis Agassiz, "Go to the catalog; take the cables into your own hands; look, and see the pinouts for yourself!"
Didn't bungie used to make Macintosh games? How many Apple titles are there from that shop nowadays?
As many others have mentioned, the serial console is the way to go. Even if there's no DB9/DB25 serial port out the back, there's likely at least one serial port header on the motherboard. The header/pinout is generally standard, so go digging in that 'really old parts' box that we all have and see if you can dig up a DB9 port mounted on a plate to mount where a card would normally go. It will have a ribbon cable to attach it to the motherboard...
Very good point. The cables are easy to find, too: e.g. http://www.pccables.com/07120.htm (That's a random cable picture and not an endorsement of the company. YMMV, Caveat Emptor, etc.)
If that box and another both have serial connections, then use the serial console: Get a null-modem cable. Connect that to another box. Make sure the you add console=ttyS0,19200n8 or some variation to the append line in your grub entries. On the client side use cu aka tip, minicom or PuTTY to make the serial connection, making sure that bps, parity and stop bits match.
I think the biggest mistake we made was not firing that stupid manager on the spot. But I suppose if we fired managers based solely on incompetent decisions, ... well... you know.
Your company would probably make more money than seemed possible in recent years. During the dot-com, a company's probability of success was inversely proportional to the number of Aeron chairs. Companies also took on a lot of MBAs and managers back then. Most imploded.
There should be plenty of hard data available by now. However, even without empirical evidence, everyone knows what the deal is:
http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-05-20/
http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-05-22/
Conficker racked up $9 billion in damages during its first quarter. That's far from the only worm out there. Old windows malware doesn't go away it's just added to the zoo.
Compare that to the estimated development costs for your average linux distro run about $1 billion.
So the savings of eradicating MSFT products for just three months would, using those numbers, give enough money to start linux from scratch 9 times over and still break out even. The more polished linux distros are now quite a few years ahead of Windows in most areas. In the areas they aren't $9 billion could buy a lot of improvement. Of that hypothetical $9 billion, it wouldn't cost but a fraction to make Filezilla as nice as Fugu or cyberduck.
Oh, but wait. There's the long tail of the worm. The windows worms run for years.
Microsoft products just aren't engineered for security. Xp, Vista and Vista 7 show us that nothing changes on that front. That's not a technical problem any more, that's an HR problem. Get rid of the MSFT boosters and you raise productivty.
No, actually, it doesn't mean either. It means an overall decline in economic activity across many dimensions taken together, the nearest thing to a single-dimensional rough definition is a decline in production rather than spending. A decline in spending usually occurs during a recession, but its not the same thing as a recession.
How much of that decline was spend cleaning up M$ malware? It looks like several tens of billions of dollars per year down the drain. I bet for 5 we could convert any M$ holdouts in the public and private sector over to desktops with customize { Openbox | Fluxbox | Xcfe | KDE } on { Linux | BSD | Solaris }. Removing any remnant M$ servers would be even faster and cheaper.
Then there is the problem of the soporific "M$ Look and Feel" Work that used to take an afternoon before M$ now takes most of several whole days to a week. However, the "M$ Look and Feel" is "so nice once you get used to it."
In this case, it's a terrible sign that the Japanese are so fed up with investing in the US that they now see hurling money into space as a better alternative.
Yeah but if it works, it'll generate income, there is a risk/reward here, unlike the Keynes "bury money in a mine" scenario.
I could make a smartass remark here about how the US government decided to bury millions of dollars in cable underground in the 1960s, connecting universities and research institutions with an inefficient government boondoggle...
Speaking of shooting money into space, you'll also notice that we didn't get integrated circuits to build computers with until after that wasteful Apollo program. The obvious conclusion is that government interference cause the Apollo program to prevent the genious MBAs from being able to sell their integrated circuits for at least a decade.
There are two directions an economy can head to get out of a recession. One is up...
If they stopped flusing so much of their operational budget on M$ problems and products they libraries would have more money and more time to work with that money. Seriously, nearly every action or function of M$ has gone against the ALA Bill of Rights.
Sure there are potential concerns with Google Books. These are small compared to the ongoing, increasing problems posed by M$ products and methods. Librarians have been standing by and in some cases helping M$ flunkies to increase the Digital Divide rather than close it.
Then again, Google is a technical or legal problem. Microsoft is a people problem.
"Alpha children wear grey They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfuly glad I'm a Beta "
GSM only authenticates one way, not both, so it is almost ideal setup for man in the middle attacks. One of the presentations at last year's CCC, the 25C3 covered this, but you can find plenty of older and newer material on it elsewhere.
Any GSM phone-based payment system has some big challenges. GPRS could be better, since you can then run something behind SSL or SSH. However, even then, when it comes to money, the designers must design the system on the assumption that the network is insecure, perhaps even the endpoints.
Next step, publish online material in campaign donor-independent media formats.
Yes rendering is done by Flash. But since Flash is installed in about 95% of computers that is not much of a problem. Not that I'm a big fan of Flash though.
Flash is not a campaign donor-independent file format.