Thank you for being the only one here to present a rational and sane argument. I'm tired of hearing all of this regurgitated "Think about the children!" crap. What is the value of denying the history of the world we live in, just because we think it's unsuitable for a certain group of people?
Apparently it's ok to promote LEGO blocks depicting violent fantasy situations such as thralldom and high-seas piracy, but it's not ok to depict a real historical event. Are we too afraid of offending everyone?
Yes, because if guns are not to readily available, then only the very determined criminals will obtain guns. You will not have a gun with which to defend yourself in this event.
I personally do not own any guns, yet I believe it is folly to put down the second ammendment as antiquated, outmoded, obselete, etc. What do I do if my government falls into dissolution and thugs roam about looting and destroying at will? I understand your want for nonviolent solutions to violent problems, but is it a wise idea to take things away from everyone just because not everyone needs it? I realize my example could use some work, but as other posters have said - the second ammendment is to help us to guarantee that we are able to preserve our inalienable rights by force if necessary.
The motto of the state that I live in says it well: "Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Extra points if you can name the state.
I don't know your relatives, but do you think there is a possiblity that they are not necessarily trying to convert you? It's entirely possible that they gave you a bible so that if you're in the mood to read something different, you could pick it up and might even find yourself interested.
If I sent you a collection of music from bands that you had heard of through people that you thought were crazy and based your opinions about the bands based solely on those people, having decided that you didn't like it from there.. would you throw them out before even listening to them?
There's more in the bible than "you're gonna go to hell if you're bad."
Are you going to make me pay the toll before I cross your bridge?
PDFCreator isn't the only software that doesn't work in a terminal session. You can't even *install* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0's MMC console on a system that has Terminal Services *or* VNC installed. Not even if you're sitting at the local console.
For the software to be useful, you have to be able to use the MMC console.
Do you suppose the ability to not view ads, menus, or anything not directly related to the content of the film itself is what the DVDCCA is so upset about? You can almost bet the farm that they aren't pursuing this on their own behalf.
I smell the stench of consumer lock-in approaching. Like everyone else says, they want to tell us how, where, and when we can use the goods that we have purchased.
FTA:
"The express intent and purpose of the contract and CSS are to prevent copying of copyrighted materials such as DVD motion pictures," Bill Coats, a DVD CCA attorney, said in a statement. "While Kaleidescape obtained a license to use CSS, the company has built a system to do precisely what the license and CSS are designed to prevent--the wholesale copying of protected DVDs."
That, to me, is a very telling remark. Obviously, the DVD CCA doesn't want us to protect our investment. They want all of our DVDs to come to ruin so we have to buy more. Sure, only the affluent can afford to buy the jukebox - but time and history have shown that most normal consumer-grade products are a devolution from the extremely fancy/expensive versions.
Well, no. The Kaleidascope people are not pre-loading movies onto the jukeboxes. There's nothing illegal being done here. So, they make a DVD movie server which in their information specifically states that it's designed for home theater use.
Did you know that you can use a shovel to kill a person if you really want to? The tool itself is not what causes damage; the damage is caused in how the tool is used. That may be rhetoric that is getting tired and worn out, but it's not any less true today than it was 20 or even 2,000 years ago.
Well answered. Unfortunately, most people around here are too lazy to actually RTFA so I figured I'd get out the cattle prod and corrale them back into their designated seats where their readers are readily available.
Or something like that.:)
That article was definitely a good read. Thanks for passing it along.
If you live in America, it's freedom of speech. However, just because someone is trying to communicate something to you doesn't mean you are obligated to listen. I wish more advertisers would exercise the fifth amendment instead of the first! But, their rights end with them communicating what they have to say. They can't force me to listen.
Why would you regard advertising on the internet any differently than advertising on television? It interrupts what you're observing to try to sell you something. Some advertisements may catch your attention and genuinely interest you, but it's still your prerogative if you want to completely ignore them or get rid of them altogether.
You can dub commercials out of a recording, can you not? AdBlock is much akin to dubbing out the commercial advertisements.
Is this somewhere along the lines of "two wrongs make a right"? I sincerely hope your comment is either extremely cynical or just a troll.
Remember: When you tell lies, you have to be good at it if you don't want to be caught. You have keep telling lies until they become truth to you. Is lying ever a good idea? I hardly think so.
There's only one problem with receipts from electronic voting machines. If the machine is rigged/tampered with, who is to say that all votes are not going to a predefined set of candidates instead of the candidates that were voted for?
Sure, the voting machine would still show on screen and on receipt the correct candidates, but that doesn't mean shineola if those aren't the people that actually got your vote. I know, I know.. checks and balances - it should be easy to track back something like this. However, what if the design was such that it only redirected every third or fourth vote that was not for the pre-selected candidates?
A vote receipt is useless if you can't be confident that your selected candidats are actually the ones getting your vote.
I live in Iowa and I've never seen Moxie available. Crystal Pepsi (some kind of joke name, I hope?) hasn't been available for many years in these parts..
How many cars have you bought without test driving first?
Why shouldn't we have software libraries, a la public libraries containing books and sometimes music and movies?
An unfortunate reality with most available commercial software is that you have to install the software (read: the software copies itself to your computer) in order to use it. So, is this a legal grey area? Is it ok for the software to copy itself where it is not ok for you to copy the software *for* yourself?
In that case, PP is a perfect match for CA! I know I always loved CA's backup software "solutions." I'm sure to love their anti-spyware software equally well!
I would encourage everyone who reads this post and would mod it "interesting" or "insightful" to follow the link and read the 2/3 that completes the context of the parent's paragraph. If you don't, then you see only what the parent wanted you to see - and not what was intended by the author.
It comes from the same place as all of the trolls wanting spammers locked away to rot for the rest of their natural lives. Same tired argument - lost time is lost money. If that were the case, I should have my boss locked away for the rest of his life for all of my time that he's wasted in pointless meetings.
I know you were obviously very fed up with the retards^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople whining and complaining about how spammers should be handled here.. and I agree with you. Your diatribe was refreshing and sane, at the same time!
We don't need to send spammers to jail, and what the hell is the deal with lumping spammers together with drug dealers? Spam won't kill you if you delete 100 messages per day or 1000. The only thing mind-altering about it would be that it turns whiney 15 year olds that don't pay taxes anyway (which pay for people's prison stays, by the way) into total asshats. As if they weren't already.
Grow up,/. - and learn to think about the consequences on society of the treatment you are demanding to be given to others.
Yes, in much the same way that peer-to-peer internet traffic is an "end run" around traditional file and media distribution methods that have "stood the test of time." Just because it's a new way of doing what you need to get done doesn't mean that its only uses are bad and should therefore be legislated into oblivion.
More prison inmates = more tax dollars paying for prison utility.. less money for things that really matter.
So, when are we going to start clamoring to have all speed limit violators and everyone that bothers us put into jail too? I agree with so many of the other commentators - nail the spammers under existing anti-fraud laws. The last time I checked, wasting someone's time by pestering them about thing's the person isn't interested in was NOT a jailable offense.
Would you send your kids to jail if they sat in the back seat of the car, constantly asking you "Are we there yet?".. Do you sue corporations for putting advertisements on television which interrupt your precious programming and take away time that you should have used for something else?
Why aren't we going after every corporation's marketing arm if all we're worried about is lost time = lost money?
If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't something like the/. user preferences be under the wing of this patent? After all, the preferences allow you to customize the html presented to you without the need to actually write any html on your own -- it asks you questions about how you want it to be presented, and you get what you ask for. How long has this system been in effect? Can any/. ops answer this one?
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Wow.. where do I get one of these 1000GHz processors? That's gotta produce some serious BTUs!
Thank you for being the only one here to present a rational and sane argument. I'm tired of hearing all of this regurgitated "Think about the children!" crap. What is the value of denying the history of the world we live in, just because we think it's unsuitable for a certain group of people?
Apparently it's ok to promote LEGO blocks depicting violent fantasy situations such as thralldom and high-seas piracy, but it's not ok to depict a real historical event. Are we too afraid of offending everyone?
Yes, because if guns are not to readily available, then only the very determined criminals will obtain guns. You will not have a gun with which to defend yourself in this event.
I personally do not own any guns, yet I believe it is folly to put down the second ammendment as antiquated, outmoded, obselete, etc. What do I do if my government falls into dissolution and thugs roam about looting and destroying at will? I understand your want for nonviolent solutions to violent problems, but is it a wise idea to take things away from everyone just because not everyone needs it? I realize my example could use some work, but as other posters have said - the second ammendment is to help us to guarantee that we are able to preserve our inalienable rights by force if necessary.
The motto of the state that I live in says it well:
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Extra points if you can name the state.
Yeah, I know this thread is entirely OT, but...
I don't know your relatives, but do you think there is a possiblity that they are not necessarily trying to convert you? It's entirely possible that they gave you a bible so that if you're in the mood to read something different, you could pick it up and might even find yourself interested.
If I sent you a collection of music from bands that you had heard of through people that you thought were crazy and based your opinions about the bands based solely on those people, having decided that you didn't like it from there.. would you throw them out before even listening to them?
There's more in the bible than "you're gonna go to hell if you're bad."
This has been a PSA brought to you by Ima Troll.
Take your adolescent whining elsewhere, please. You make forums an unpleasant place to be.
Please see the following links for further information.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030324
The second link may be more within your grasp, as it's not 100% text. It seems people have problems with reading when there aren't any pictures.
Are you going to make me pay the toll before I cross your bridge?
PDFCreator isn't the only software that doesn't work in a terminal session. You can't even *install* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0's MMC console on a system that has Terminal Services *or* VNC installed. Not even if you're sitting at the local console.
For the software to be useful, you have to be able to use the MMC console.
Maybe you meant Media Player Classic?
I smell the stench of consumer lock-in approaching. Like everyone else says, they want to tell us how, where, and when we can use the goods that we have purchased.
FTA:
That, to me, is a very telling remark. Obviously, the DVD CCA doesn't want us to protect our investment. They want all of our DVDs to come to ruin so we have to buy more. Sure, only the affluent can afford to buy the jukebox - but time and history have shown that most normal consumer-grade products are a devolution from the extremely fancy/expensive versions.
Well, no. The Kaleidascope people are not pre-loading movies onto the jukeboxes. There's nothing illegal being done here. So, they make a DVD movie server which in their information specifically states that it's designed for home theater use.
Did you know that you can use a shovel to kill a person if you really want to? The tool itself is not what causes damage; the damage is caused in how the tool is used. That may be rhetoric that is getting tired and worn out, but it's not any less true today than it was 20 or even 2,000 years ago.
Well answered. Unfortunately, most people around here are too lazy to actually RTFA so I figured I'd get out the cattle prod and corrale them back into their designated seats where their readers are readily available.
:)
Or something like that.
That article was definitely a good read. Thanks for passing it along.
If you live in America, it's freedom of speech. However, just because someone is trying to communicate something to you doesn't mean you are obligated to listen. I wish more advertisers would exercise the fifth amendment instead of the first! But, their rights end with them communicating what they have to say. They can't force me to listen.
Why would you regard advertising on the internet any differently than advertising on television? It interrupts what you're observing to try to sell you something. Some advertisements may catch your attention and genuinely interest you, but it's still your prerogative if you want to completely ignore them or get rid of them altogether.
You can dub commercials out of a recording, can you not? AdBlock is much akin to dubbing out the commercial advertisements.
Is this somewhere along the lines of "two wrongs make a right"? I sincerely hope your comment is either extremely cynical or just a troll.
Remember: When you tell lies, you have to be good at it if you don't want to be caught. You have keep telling lies until they become truth to you. Is lying ever a good idea? I hardly think so.
There's only one problem with receipts from electronic voting machines. If the machine is rigged/tampered with, who is to say that all votes are not going to a predefined set of candidates instead of the candidates that were voted for?
Sure, the voting machine would still show on screen and on receipt the correct candidates, but that doesn't mean shineola if those aren't the people that actually got your vote. I know, I know.. checks and balances - it should be easy to track back something like this. However, what if the design was such that it only redirected every third or fourth vote that was not for the pre-selected candidates?
A vote receipt is useless if you can't be confident that your selected candidats are actually the ones getting your vote.
Yes.
I live in Iowa and I've never seen Moxie available. Crystal Pepsi (some kind of joke name, I hope?) hasn't been available for many years in these parts..
How many cars have you bought without test driving first?
Why shouldn't we have software libraries, a la public libraries containing books and sometimes music and movies?
An unfortunate reality with most available commercial software is that you have to install the software (read: the software copies itself to your computer) in order to use it. So, is this a legal grey area? Is it ok for the software to copy itself where it is not ok for you to copy the software *for* yourself?
Would that be your cutlass, parrot, and matching eye patch?
In that case, PP is a perfect match for CA! I know I always loved CA's backup software "solutions." I'm sure to love their anti-spyware software equally well!
I would encourage everyone who reads this post and would mod it "interesting" or "insightful" to follow the link and read the 2/3 that completes the context of the parent's paragraph. If you don't, then you see only what the parent wanted you to see - and not what was intended by the author.
It comes from the same place as all of the trolls wanting spammers locked away to rot for the rest of their natural lives. Same tired argument - lost time is lost money. If that were the case, I should have my boss locked away for the rest of his life for all of my time that he's wasted in pointless meetings.
I know you were obviously very fed up with the retards^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpeople whining and complaining about how spammers should be handled here.. and I agree with you. Your diatribe was refreshing and sane, at the same time!
/. - and learn to think about the consequences on society of the treatment you are demanding to be given to others.
We don't need to send spammers to jail, and what the hell is the deal with lumping spammers together with drug dealers? Spam won't kill you if you delete 100 messages per day or 1000. The only thing mind-altering about it would be that it turns whiney 15 year olds that don't pay taxes anyway (which pay for people's prison stays, by the way) into total asshats. As if they weren't already.
Grow up,
Yes, in much the same way that peer-to-peer internet traffic is an "end run" around traditional file and media distribution methods that have "stood the test of time." Just because it's a new way of doing what you need to get done doesn't mean that its only uses are bad and should therefore be legislated into oblivion.
More prison inmates = more tax dollars paying for prison utility.. less money for things that really matter.
So, when are we going to start clamoring to have all speed limit violators and everyone that bothers us put into jail too? I agree with so many of the other commentators - nail the spammers under existing anti-fraud laws. The last time I checked, wasting someone's time by pestering them about thing's the person isn't interested in was NOT a jailable offense.
Would you send your kids to jail if they sat in the back seat of the car, constantly asking you "Are we there yet?".. Do you sue corporations for putting advertisements on television which interrupt your precious programming and take away time that you should have used for something else?
Why aren't we going after every corporation's marketing arm if all we're worried about is lost time = lost money?
If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't something like the /. user preferences be under the wing of /. ops answer this one?
this patent? After all, the preferences allow you to customize the html presented to
you without the need to actually write any html on your own -- it asks you questions
about how you want it to be presented, and you get what you ask for. How long has this
system been in effect? Can any