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Flickr Online Photo Service Reviewed

kschoenwandt writes "I have been an early fan of Flickr and while I am by far not as much of a shutter bug as most users seem to be, I enjoy the features and use it regularly. Taking some time out reading, I noticed that I am not the only one impressed: The Globe and Mail published a piece on it as did The Christian Science Monitor. Cool!"

182 comments

  1. 2 places that like it by Nemesis099 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think 2 minor news sites can say that this is the best photo sharing site. I'm not saying that I won't check it out and see if it is worth it to me but unless something a little more well known talks about it I really do not think it is slashdot worthy.

    I happen to use ofoto which has worked very well for me although now I'm looking for a more advanced site. One that will allow me to sell my photos to make a profit for me and not just the website.

    1. Re:2 places that like it by billstr78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't knock it till you've tried it. It's on slashdot because it's innovative and uses some pretty cool tech in the background. Give it a shot and see if you don't go running from Ofoto.

    2. Re:2 places that like it by davesplace1 · · Score: 1

      A service does not have to be big to be SlashDot worthy, just good or great. Yes ofoto is good, but Flickr online is a great service and well worth trying out IMHO.

    3. Re:2 places that like it by xetaprag · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You've got to wonder if this isn't a trend that has larger consequences.

      Photo storage has traditionally been a "OS" centric activity. Peronsal photos tend to be exactly that, personal. But if users are willing to store (and trust) personal information on (to) public internet sites, then why not display the same trust will all but your password files. If I can store my email on GMail, my photos on-line, and my documents online, what's left for the average user? If I am an average joe (and am not hiding a secret porn stash) then why not store the majority of my digital information on-line.

      At some point Microsoft or the Linux-folks are going to have to realize that OS systems design to manage data on just-local drives are woefully inadequate.

    4. Re:2 places that like it by SECProto · · Score: 0

      It will probably need more users for it to be featured by bigger news sites/papers. Nothing wrong with saying slashdot featured it first!
      Although I don't really classify the Globe and Mail a minor news site - it's the website for a newspaper, not an internet-only news site.

    5. Re:2 places that like it by TheAntiCrust · · Score: 1

      If I am an average joe (and am not hiding a secret porn stash)

      That's a pretty BIG if. Plus, there are many websites on-line that store huge amlounts of porn. So that aspect is/can be held on-line too.

    6. Re:2 places that like it by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
      i use www.imagestation.com for my main online photo albums since they give you unlimited storage along with the ability to retrieve the orginal sized picture.

      The only one I've seen so far that had a photo selling option was www.shutterfly.com, but they only let you sell prints of your photos, not the images themselves. It was fairly limited and looked like it only catered to the event photographer (kids sports, weddings, etc).

      There are quite a few stock photo places to sell your pictures to the mass media you just have to look around.

    7. Re:2 places that like it by swim_bike_run-geek · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think 2 minor news sites...

      The Globe & Mail is one of two national Canadian Newspapers. Not exactly minor to us Canucks.

    8. Re:2 places that like it by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      I looked at this..hoping it might be one of those sites that let you upload your digital pics...and they'll send you back physical printed copies (for a fee).

      Are there any good sites that do this? I can easily manage my own digital pics on my websites...but, would like an easy way to upload my pics, and have them snail mailed to me as high quality prints.

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    9. Re:2 places that like it by GreggBert · · Score: 1

      You might try EzPrints.com. You can send them your digital images, specify sizes, qty, etc and they will send you your prints in about five business days. Several of the other print from the web type sites actually use EzPrints as their fulfillment mechanism.

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    10. Re:2 places that like it by themaidtricks · · Score: 0

      I don't really care about the service itself, but I find it funny that someone can simply say, "hey, there's this service you can use, a couple news sites liked it, and I like it, you should like it too" and it gets accepted.

      Sometimes it would actually be better if more people did this instead of writing their own crappy reviews. "As a computer programmer I found the Da Vinci code to be very fast paced and exciting...plus no mention of Microsoft!"

      But this site is meant to put a tech spin on everyday news, not give you links to the "Christian" spin on tech news.

    11. Re:2 places that like it by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 1
      ...send you back physical printed copies (for a fee). Are there any good sites that do this?

      The best place in the world to do this, if you're only interested in black and white prints, is probably San Miguel Photo Lab in Las Vegas. I've seen their work; it's amazing.

      Of course, San Miguel charges nearly USD$50.00 for a best-quality 8 by 10 inch print. So if you really meant "Are there any good sites that do this for a fee normal people would consider paying?", I'll have to defer to other posters.

    12. Re:2 places that like it by timjdot · · Score: 1


      What are the image selling options? I am building a site, http://www.youart.net, that is ore focused on photo chopping but including the ability to sell your uploaded photos. Well, my initial thoughts were:

      1) free
      2) fee per copy used on shirt or other item
      3) fee per usage on another media like a website
      (do I need to make this "per hit" or "per reader"?)
      4) Cost for unlimited usage.

      But what are the pricing methods desired?

      Thanks!Tim

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    13. Re:2 places that like it by rishistar · · Score: 1
      Well aren't we back to ofoto then???

      Well they at least do that in the UK

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    14. Re:2 places that like it by guyjr · · Score: 1

      I use White House Custom Color. When you setup an account, you have to go through a process where you upload 5 images and they send you 8x10 prints of them for free. This is to confirm that your color calibration is correct and matches their color calibrated printers, which are all calibrated to the sRGB colorspace.

      Their prices are very competitive, and the quality, in my opinion, is second to none. Very good service and turnaround as well... I usually get my prints shipped within a day or two of uploading, and they always send via UPS 2-Day.

    15. Re:2 places that like it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yaga used to let people make money off photos but not it is dead. I suppose you could try cafepress or something. But i thought there was something similiar to yaga though if it's still around...

    16. Re:2 places that like it by drew · · Score: 1

      my wife uses shutterfly for printing her pictures, and is pretty happy with it. I think as long as you order at least a dozen or so pictures at a time, the price per print (including shipping) is comparable to getting a regular roll of film developed. Plus since it's digital, you only have to pay to get the good pictures developed, instead of all of them.

      You can keep albums online there too, but I'm not sure what their limitations are in terms of how many pictures you can store online at a time.

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    17. Re:2 places that like it by xetaprag · · Score: 1

      Sure, but what about a private stash. The one with the home photos of the Klingon swingers party.

    18. Re:2 places that like it by Charcharodon · · Score: 1

      You'll have to take a look at the site. Basically they offer a wholesale price based on which package you buy. Which aren't that cheap you are also fairly limited to the total amount of pictures you can post, so dropping a online stock photo store is prohibitibly expensive. More or less you can sell any sized print they offer and I would think you could do all the mugs and calender etc.

  2. Andvanced piracy??? by koi88 · · Score: 2, Funny


    ... I just read on their website.
    But, unfortunately, it's just advanced privacy:-(
    While also nice, we unfortunately will have to resort to our standard piracy tools...

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    1. Re:Andvanced piracy??? by billstr78 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They do use advanced piracy detection techniques. They are big into creative commons liciencing and since I often post photographs found on the web, my account has been marked as "bad", and henseforth my photos don't show up in public searches

    2. Re:Andvanced piracy??? by SenorChuck · · Score: 1

      Would that be your cutlass, parrot, and matching eye patch?

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      A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb
  3. other useful service bureaus for photographers by Speare · · Score: 5, Informative
    Besides the consumer-oriented shutterflys and the community of deviantart, there are other service bureaus which are of value to professional and serious amateur photographers out there. I used to use ezprints.com for lightjet output, but their color calibration is very spotty and inconsistent these days.
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    1. Re:other useful service bureaus for photographers by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 2, Informative

      We've been using snapfish.com for years and love it.

      In fact, I just ordered photo Christmas cards from them.

    2. Re:other useful service bureaus for photographers by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Just an OT aside, that is the best damn picture of Beaver Stadium I have ever seen, and you managed to get it on one of the 3 times this season Penn State was actually ahead!(and really the only good game they played this season), you really should try making it into a postcard or something, people will buy anything Penn State and that is a good one.

    3. Re:other useful service bureaus for photographers by Speare · · Score: 1
      (The parent reference is to this shot: http://halley.cc/pix/?f=penn.state/beaver.stadium -- check the "even larger" link.

      Heh, the closeup of the scoreboard shows MSU 3, PSU 0, first quarter. ;) I'm sure I could fudge that to the final score if I wanted to sell to Penn State fans. The detail in the original is high enough you can find Sparty and the Lion mascots on the sidelines, read most of the jersey numbers, and count the cheerleaders too.

      If anyone's interested in a print of any of my gallery, even those not already in the "storefront" page, I could arrange a PayPal for it. Give me an idea of the size you'd like and we'll negotiate a price.

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    4. Re:other useful service bureaus for photographers by rubypossum · · Score: 1

      I've tried most of the photo services and I can say that PBase is probably the best. One really cool thing about it is being able to search by digital camera. You can find pictures in the 10,000,000+ set by almost any digital camera. This is great when you're buying a new camera and want to get a good idea how it's photos will turn out in a variety of situations. Oh and this part is free.

      http://www.pbase.com/cameras

      I don't use PBase anymore since I have a lot more photos than most people 7,000+ (after sorting and deleting.) And they're all taken mainly with a Sony Mavica CD400 and weigh in at 1.5MB each. I found a non-nutjob host that offers $6.95 a month service for 1GB of storage and I just pay for my extra storage. Not affiliated (except my site is hosted there) but I use OsGen.

      http://www.osgen.net/

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  4. I dig it by billstr78 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What I really like about Flickr is the way it brings people together over photographs. They say a picture is worth 1000 words (bring on the picture worth replies) and allowing individuals to comment on photos and discuss topics in the group forums are by far the most often used features for me. The interface is also slick and innovative, tags are of great use in photos (as they are with mail) and the notes feature made possible by thier custom flash rendering scripts are a pretty neat as well.

    1. Re:I dig it by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 1

      while this sounds good, are there any limits as to what kind of pictures can appear on the site (i.e. is there some kind of moderation system?). I am not so concerned about p0rn, but more about pictures depicting violence or other material that most people would prefer to stay way from if they could.

    2. Re:I dig it by billstr78 · · Score: 2, Informative

      An account can be marked as "bad" if photos they post violate copyrights or are reported as offensive and thier photos not shown in public searches, but they can still make thier way to public group photo pools. I did find one or two disturbing images this way. There is a mechanism to mark a photo as "offensive", but there is not much indication as to how they handle it from there.
      Having said that, I have only found 2 or 3 disturbing photos amoungst the thousands I've viewed so far. Translation: the bottom feeders have not found out about the service yet..

  5. Re:Christian science monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The Christian Scientists are the people who don't believe in doctors.

    Apparently, this site doesn't have any photos of doctors. Hence, their approval.

  6. integration with blogs by cara · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use flikr too and the thing I like is the easy integration with various blogs (specifically I use blogger.com, but it works with others). It's easy to create a blog entry from a photo posted to flikr - very convenient.

    1. Re:integration with blogs by billstr78 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's also becomming a bit like a blog location itself. I notice a few people attaching long annotations or "stories" to daily posts. With comments and photos displayed in stream ordering by default, this is becoming much like my second blog.

  7. Too dependent on Flash by Smack · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some of the features are only available in the Flash interface, and I don't see what the benefit is anyway. Too gee-whizzy.

    1. Re:Too dependent on Flash by sulli · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Exactly. Flickr is very annoying due to the constant use of flash.

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    2. Re:Too dependent on Flash by Quixote · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I just tried viewing some images, and nothing showed up! Upon some digging around, it looks like the actual images are SWF files.

      Why in the world would anyone send images as Flash?

      Being a Linux user, I can't use this site.

      If Google has taught us anything, it is that Occam's principle rules: simplest interface is the best.

      Ciao Flickr!

    3. Re:Too dependent on Flash by ian13550 · · Score: 1

      The only thing I can think of is that maybe it keeps people from saving the images directly to their local HD and printing them from there? There are probably better ways to do this but just a thought...

    4. Re:Too dependent on Flash by otisg · · Score: 1

      Not only gee-whizzy, but also browser-slow-downin'. Whenever I open a page with a default-sized photo on Flickr, my browser (whether Firefox or IE) takes about 1-2 seconds to 'digest' the page. But this is technology -- it can be changed. The service they provide IS good and VERY popular.

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    5. Re:Too dependent on Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't lie because we know that's not true. I use flickr and it doesn't require Flash to see pictures. If you don't have Flash installed they show up just fine (minus the nifty features that is).

      You can also get links to all the images (though that requires the flash interface to find the link)

  8. Peripheral Business by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    Can't sleep? View our slide shows!

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  9. Ad Rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi! I was wondering what the rates are for getting my business mentioned as a front-page Slashdot story? At first I thought that I might have to insert open-source code into my commercial product and claim it as my own, but now that seems to not be necessary.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    1. Re:Ad Rates by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 1

      Probably cheaper to buy a Slashdot subscription so you can quickly post comments to relevant stories! :-)

      Eric (here's another business model :-))
    2. Re:Ad Rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to link to kschoenwandt's web site, where s/he explains that s/he is in the "Internet Management and Development" business. Sounds just like PR to me (although s/he eats s/his own dog food, evidenced by the flickr banners on that page).

  10. for the uninformed... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Informative

    from their "about us" page

    [Mary Baker] Eddy [founder of The Christian Science Monitor]insisted, against strong opposition from some of her advisers and church officers, that the words "Christian Science" should be in the paper's name. According to one of her biographers, Robert Peel, to Eddy, "the designated title was an identification of the paper with the promise that no human situation was beyond healing or rectification if approached with sufficient understanding of man's God-given potentialities. Nor did the "good news" of Christianity involve the prettification of bad news, but rather, its confident confrontation".

    There's more information on that page, but in the interest of brevity, I only copy pasted the relevant part of the FAQ.

    1. Re:for the uninformed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lest someone conclude that the editor was going toward a rational synthesis of science and religion (not that this is possible anyway...), note that "Christian Science" is actually neither. It's a fanatic cult known mostly for milking its constituency out of $$$ and the radical belief that faith can (and for the virtuous, must) substitute for medical attention in the case of illness.

    2. Re:for the uninformed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh no. As far as cults go they are among the most unfanatic and level headed around. There is no milking of money, of any kind. The only 'cost' is an optional $1 a year to be listed as a member of the mother church. Beyond that there is no required or suggested costs, donations or purchases of any kind. Sure most churches hold collections like everywhere else, but the amounts collected are trivial compared to many other churches and relgions.

      Yes there is faith healing, but it is not a must and people are not told or taught to refuse medical help. Most people simply choose faith healing becuase in their personal experience it is more efficient than medical healing.

    3. Re:for the uninformed... by michael.teter · · Score: 1
      mostly for milking its constituency out of $$$


      Really, this troll amuses me.

      There is one letter a year to registered members of the church where the church states what its financial goals are, and then there's the required minimum One Dollar donation in order to keep oneself registered.

      Then, if one chooses to go to one of the churches, the church actually passes around a collection bag! Criminal! And heaven forbid one just passes it on without putting any money in -- the church workers completely act as if they weren't paying attention to whether one put a donation in or not.

      You can say lots of things about the religion, but perhaps the simplest, most easily disproveable argument about the church is that they milk members for money.
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  11. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by cara · · Score: 3, Informative

    Um, why don't you look at the web site? The Christian Science Monitor is basically a normal newpaper with only one religious article in each issue. It was founded in 1908 and is published by the First Christ of Christ, Scientist as a public service thing. Check out their FAQ

  12. Web 2.0 anyone? by aardwolf204 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    FTA: Flickr (www.flickr.com) is what's known as a web service or web application -- something between a website and a regular software program. Web services have long been seen as the future, but until recently they've been held back by technical limitations. Now the combination of faster computers, better development tools and greater access to broadband is making them a reality. Some have even taken to calling this new trend the Web 2.0.

    Emphasis mine

    I can only imagine the marketoid this came from. Its bad enough most people (outside /.) think HTTP is the Internet, now we need everyone hyping "Web 2.0", because we all know how much version numbers mean.

    Sorry, feeling a bit ranty today.

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    1. Re:Web 2.0 anyone? by dubiousmike · · Score: 2, Funny

      Internet 2 says it wants fight Web 2 at the flag pole after school.

    2. Re:Web 2.0 anyone? by say · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its bad enough most people (outside /.) think HTTP is the Internet

      People who know what HTTP is, do generally also know what a protocol is, and do not think HTTP is the Internet. People think the Internet is a program with an icon depicting a blue E.

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    3. Re:Web 2.0 anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I think the "marketroids" were Esther Dyson and Dan Gilmor; I first saw the phrase in one of Esther's newsletters.

    4. Re:Web 2.0 anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you be refering to Release 1.0?

    5. Re:Web 2.0 anyone? by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1

      More often, people think the Internet is the big E...

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  13. yes flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll give you flickr you little whippersnapper!!

  14. In Japan by ganzhimself · · Score: 1

    In Japan old people talk to online pictures to avoid senility... Seriously... I just signed up for this, and I think it's a lot easier than signing on to my school's VPN to upload a few pics to my student webserver, then disconnecting and going about my business... And it's better than what was that service??? Photobucket I think?

  15. I use Flickr. by Raven42rac · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use flickr as an easy way of sharing my photos. The dealmaker was the great communities that are on there. People will give you constructive input, not elitist prickery when you post your photos. More than I can say for deviant art/etc.

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    1. Re:I use Flickr. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like photosig for criticism. The community feels a bit more polished and professional.

    2. Re:I use Flickr. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite at the professional level yet, working on it though.

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  16. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    umm.. flamebait? why can't I mod when I really want to? you didn't RTFA did you? there's nothing religious.

  17. Flickr by JRGKGB · · Score: 3, Informative

    Flickr is pretty nice, though personally I'm a bigger fan of fotoflix.com - better multimedia options and a cleaner interface.

    I haven't tried that many I'll admit. Thanks for the list above, very useful.

  18. I like it by TravisC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I started using Flickr last month and am very impressed. Granted I don't have a big need to sell my photos, just to manage them easily and quickly.

    Two of my favorite features of flickr are the ability to email photos from my phone directly to the site, and the fact that they provide code which enables me to display the last 5 flickr photos on my personal website. In addition to those two features, they allow members to post comments on photos. Plus, you can see how many times each photo has been viewed. Another nice feature is the photographer's ability to make several notes on each photo, which appear when the viewer hovers the mouse pointer over each note's user customizable box.

    Yes, there are features I'd like to see incorporated, but the service is still in beta, and considering that I think they've done a great job so far. Check it out. Here's my page:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/travischurch/

  19. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by adturner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh, obviously you've never actually read an issue of the CSM otherwise you'd never make such a remark. While it is published by a church (not one I particularly care for btw), it is one of the best researched independant publications in print since they actually have reporters in foreign countries rather then just relying on AP/Newswire/etc. Not quite up to Economist standards in my unhumble opinion, but worth at least looking into.

  20. Open Source photo repository by scaramush · · Score: 4, Informative


    I've never used Flickr, but I have been using Gallery now for about 2 years. It's Open Source, based on PHP and MySQL. I've had to do two complete machine moves in that time, and it's handled them both flawlessly.

    I think of all the OS projects I've used (and I've been at this a while now), Gallery has brought me the most pleasure. I had more or less put down my digital camera, because I found sharing, storing and cataloging photos publicly too much of a pain. Being able to share my photos with my friends and family has just been a real joy for me. (And before someone says it, they're pictures of my garden, not pr0n ;) ).

    Gallery also has a hook to buy photos from Shutterbug (but I haven't been very happy with them so far).

    Thanks Gallery!

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    1. Re:Open Source photo repository by kbahey · · Score: 1

      I have been using Gallery myself for a few years, and I agree it is great.

      One nitpick though: it has never required MySQL at all. All its data are in flat files.

    2. Re:Open Source photo repository by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      huzzah for gallery! Also, check out brad choate's mt plugins. I use both gallery + choatery on one site and pure choatery on another

      Something else you might be interested is some php munging I did to grab recent photos out of gallery. You can find code + samples here.
      -e

    3. Re:Open Source photo repository by NardofDoom · · Score: 1
      My family *loves* my gallery. Heck, even my parents' and parents-in-law's coworkers love it. I posted almost all of the pictures of my recent wedding and honeymoon (I said almost all of them, you pervert), and they like that they can comment on them, order prints, or just show them off to their friends.

      I'm thinking of making a small business of setting up galleries for people. So many people have digicams, but then just print the pictures out or email a couple at a time to their friends and family.

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    4. Re:Open Source photo repository by dcigary · · Score: 1

      I've also been using Gallery for quite a while now. (4 years? Really?). I agree it rocks! I've also set up a Gallery site for my brother on his server at home, and have random photo digital picture frames running around the house feeding from the server. Very, very cool stuff!

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    5. Re:Open Source photo repository by scaramush · · Score: 1


      Really? What hardware are you using for the photoframes? Can you tell me/us a bit more about your set up?

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    6. Re:Open Source photo repository by dave3138 · · Score: 1

      I believe Gallery 2 is based on MySQL...You're correct in that the older version just uses flat files.

    7. Re:Open Source photo repository by dcigary · · Score: 1

      A few years ago I bought up some of those Virgin WebPlayers and I-Openers from eBay and other places, and proceeded to hack into them with the instructions provided.

      The WebPlayer I'm using in the living room has Windows 95 on it reduced down using LitePC, and has Opera running as a web client. Also installed is Identafone, a piece of software that will display caller-id information on the screen. Add a cheap USB network adapter, plug in the phone line to the modem, and fire up the web browser to bring up a variant of the Block-random script provided by the Gallery distro, and you have a Photo Frame/Caller-ID box that has a small footprint and has no moving parts (no fan or hard drive).

      I've also done the same thing with the I-Openers, installing a small 10-Gig laptop drive or so using a custom IMOD2 Kit. They both run very well and you end up with a much more configurable picture frame than a store-bought one for around a third of the cost.

      Now, I wish I could do something with some type of Linux distro on these guys, and I'm sure that it's possible, but I just haven't had the time after doing these. Ideas anyone? Would a Linux distro run on these boxes and still have enough memory to run a GUI to display photos?

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    8. Re:Open Source photo repository by Drakonian · · Score: 1

      Dude, you should make a web page describing all this, submit it to Slashdot, and watch the web server go down in flames.

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    9. Re:Open Source photo repository by dcigary · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've thought about it. I did it so long ago though I'd have to remember it all...

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  21. A different approach by senzafine · · Score: 3, Informative

    Flickr is a really cool site. I do like their keywords and group features. We recently finished a site that's (imo) as good as or better than Flickr. Give some feedback on FotoFlix.

    This site lets you create movies with some really nice templates and your own music.

    Flickr and FotoFlix are by far the best sites for photo management and sharing.

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  22. 2 minor news sites? define minor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's like saying, oh - ET found, but it was only reported by the WSJ and BBC America, but unless something a little more well known talks about it I really do not think it is slashdot worthy.

    I love how worldy and journalistically snobbish slashdot's readership has become, as they truck off to the lofty spires of SharkyExtreme and IGN Vault for reliable news.

  23. I like flickr by syphax · · Score: 3, Funny
    I like flickr. I like their attitude- here's the first couple lines from a recent email:
    Hello Most Excellent Flickr Beta Testr!

    This is just a reminder to let you know that, not only do you rule, but ...
    I also like the tag approach to categorizing photos. Like del.icio.us for bookmarks, tagging lets you get orthogonal with your groupings (i.e. the same photo can belong to multiple groups- generally a useful thing).
    --
    Simple Unexpected Concrete Credible Emotional Stories
    1. Re:I like flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is that the site was developed by Bill and Ted? Excellent! Wyld Stallyns rocks!

    2. Re:I like flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical slashdotter. Make a "cool" reference and you are in golden with them. Never mind about their completely flawed security on the site, reference Bill and Ted and everything is A-OK!

  24. What about legacy photos? by scott_crossen · · Score: 0

    Want to get those old photos into the digital world. Check out http://www.digmypics.com/ It's a service that will digitize all of your old photos for a pretty reasonable price.

  25. www.andrewhodel.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.andrewhodel.com, Same thing, been up for years, nothing new people, go on with life.

    1. Re:www.andrewhodel.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ha, posted the link this time

  26. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no fan of the Christian Science Church. It's a little kooky for my tastes. I will say though, that I've been reading the Christian Science Monitor for over 25 years. It's one of the few independent news organizations left, with a surprisingly progressive and balanced view on life and such. Go read a few articles before you knock it too much...

    Thanks,
    AC

  27. crappy security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Too bad Flickr uses plain text HTTP authorization.

    1. Re:crappy security by brlewis · · Score: 1

      On ourdoings.com I use SSL-encrypted authentication. Except for photo uploads where I use a one-time key sent after the upload. A large volume of data being encrypted would likely slow down the server, which is why most services out there do plaintext by default.

  28. Free Advertisement? by waxcrash · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the poster schoenwandt works for Flickr? Things that make you go hmm???

    1. Re:Free Advertisement? by Superfreaker · · Score: 1

      I have to agree that this smells like an ad. These types of services have been around forever and this one is not exceptionally better than any of the others like ofoto, snapfish, etc...Just mho.

    2. Re:Free Advertisement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Actually, it's possible that Schoenwandt does have some relation to Flickr.

      He lives in Vancouver where Flickr is based, and works as a project management consultant. According to graduates.com, he is friends with this guy, who is the president of Flickr and this guy, who is the Operations Lead.

      But, the world is a complex network of relationships, acquaintances, hot dog stands and roller discos. Take a look at Flickr. It has a distinctly un-evil vibe.

    3. Re:Free Advertisement? by hey · · Score: 1

      Yes, that was my first thought too. He's an early user because he works for the company. Who else would keep track of the positive press they have received!

    4. Re:Free Advertisement? by kschoenwandt · · Score: 1

      Hey hey hey, just to set the record straight:
      1. Yes, I know them well and worked with and for them at one point
      2. No, not an ad! Straight facts... try Flickr and you'll get it!
      3. No, I am not "working" for them. I live in Vancouver for crying out loud. Of course I have contact with them. I'd have to live under a rock not too.

    5. Re:Free Advertisement? by michaelhood · · Score: 1

      Hey, your UID isn't even 10% of kschoenwandt (836493). What could you possibly know?

  29. A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by applecore · · Score: 3, Informative

    One post mentioned smugmug.com, which is what I settled on after an intense evaluation of 25 sites, including ofoto, Yahoo!, shutterbug, etc. Here is my quick plug for smugmug as a recommendation for anyone else looking to run from ofoto etc. for superior services like flickr or smugmug: 1) Unlimited storage (they get you for downloading - viewing - more than 180,000 med-size jpegs in a month, flickr only limits your UPloading 2) Sharing of ORIGINAL size photos. This is indeed rare. 3) Backups to CD or DVD of ALL your photos (about $25). A great deal for groups like mine with 20,000+ photos. A NEW feature of smugmugs they didn't have a year ago. This was the reason for my intense search. 4) Hotlinking to intelligently organized pictures (www.smugmug.com/-[Ti S M L O].jpg Does it matter if my $0.02 are in Australian dollars?

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    1. Re:A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm looking at the smugmug site, but can't find an answer to this -- is it ~$25 to backup _all_ images you have on there? Or is it $25 for x amount of photos?

      Thanks!

    2. Re:A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by wheany · · Score: 1

      On thing I noticed: Ability to search and view photos without having to register. This is a big plus for me.

    3. Re:A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by applecore · · Score: 2, Informative
      An entire gallery or ALL your galleries for $25.50:

      I failed to 'Preview' my last post, and got CRAP. Here is what I meant to post

      One post mentioned smugmug.com, which is what I settled on after an intense evaluation of 25 sites, including ofoto, Yahoo!, shutterbug, etc.

      Here is my quick plug for smugmug as a recommendation for anyone else looking to run from ofoto etc. for superior services like flickr or smugmug:

      1) Unlimited storage (they get you for downloading - viewing - more than 180,000 med-size jpegs in a month, flickr only limits your UPloading
      2) Sharing of ORIGINAL size photos. This is indeed rare.
      3) Backups to CD or DVD of ALL your photos (about $25). A great deal for groups like mine with 20,000+ photos. A NEW feature of smugmugs they didn't have a year ago. This was the reason for my intense search.
      4) Hotlinking to intelligently organized pictures (www.smugmug.com/-[Ti S M L O].jpg

      Does it matter if my $0.02 are in Australian dollars?

      --
      Test signature: Brett Walker
    4. Re:A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow..full backups of everything for that...very sweet..

      (And btw, your post still didn't come through completely right -- the picture link is off; probably killed by slashcode, I'm guessing.)

      Thanks for the info!

    5. Re:A pitch for $30/yr smugmug, better than flickr by n0wak · · Score: 1

      I think you're missing the point of flickr. Flickr isn't a photo archive, it's a photo sharing site. There's a huge distinction. Want to look at pictures of Shanghai? http://flickr.com/photos/tags/shanghai/ Want to see what people are posting in your city? Subscribe to the tag's RSS feed. Want to display images on your site? Pool together common interest groups? Etc etc.

      Don't think of Flickr as an online repository for your images, think of it as a delicious+Friendster+Blogger+moblog-like photo service.

  30. Comparison with Picasa? by magefile · · Score: 1

    I think I'll try Flickr. The load on my FC/Apache box is usually quite high the day after I tell friends I have pictures from XYZ event up ...

    Oh, and Google's Picasa is quite nice (Windows only, though). Photo organizing, automatic import (warning: any NSFW stuff will be found, heh), etc., but it also has stuff like automatic export to XHTML galleries - I can imagine it'd be quite easy to set it up with a batch file or two so a relative could export them to an XHTML gallery, then run the batch file to transmit it to server space you've given 'em.

  31. Much prefer smugmug.com by mrinella · · Score: 1

    I think smugmug's user interface, features, and speed are far superior. You have to pay $29.95 per year, but for that you get no advertisements, unlimited storage, ability to view and download original files, and easy online printing.

    1. Re:Much prefer smugmug.com by onethumb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey, thanks. :)

      I'm the CEO at smugmug.com, arguably one of flickr's better competitors. (Actually, since we were here before them and have larger share, I suppose they're one our better competitors. Whatever).

      Luckily, the flickr gang and I have had a chance to meet and hang out, and to be honest, they're very smart, talented people. There are a lot of other companies playing in this space, and most of them don't have a clue.

      I think it would help all of us who are clueful if someone (the media, geeks who have family that hang on their every word, etc) would sit up and notice that sites like ofoto and shutterfly provide *really poor* sharing. They're sorta like the AOL of photo sharing. Thank goodness sites like smugmug and flickr exist once people discover how not-useful their sites are.

      Kudos to the flickr guys for the great reviews! They deserve them.

      Don

      --
      my smug mug is on smugmug ... is yours?
  32. Try "Gallery" if you want a DIY solution. by jcostantino · · Score: 2, Informative
    I set up Gallery on my home server and after some configuring it works without a hitch! You can get it at http://gallery.sourceforge.net/ and all it needs to run is Apache, PHP and some free image manipulation programs!

    Unfortunately, it seems to be very particular about what webhosting services it likes - both of my office's hosts, Readyhosting and Interland don't have enough PHP access to make it work. It works just fine for me at home running XP Pro, Apache and PHP.

    It's pretty vanilla but it supports multiple users with permissions, you can add comments, rotate, do batch uploads through either Java applets, a html form or from a URL. I was using statically generated pages from Jalbum and while these lack the prettiness of Jalbum, they are HUGELY more flexible.

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    1. Re:Try "Gallery" if you want a DIY solution. by slashd'oh · · Score: 1

      I tried to implement Gallery on my site but couldn't because it requires PHP to be run in Safe Mode. As an alternative, I set-up Coppermine.

      I also use Flickr, mainly because it easily allows me to restrict access to certain photos and I can post images directly via email (such as from my phone). And in all honesty, I don't mind someone else managing it. There are other features that I'm only starting to play with, too, like their APIs.

    2. Re:Try "Gallery" if you want a DIY solution. by jcostantino · · Score: 1
      You meant that it needs to not be running in safe mode, right? I followed your link and copied this:

      Note: Your PHP installation must not be in safe mode, or have exec() disabled.. Gallery is a sophisticated application and must do operations that require extensive privileges. These prevent Gallery from functioning properly. You must also have full access to functions.
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    3. Re:Try "Gallery" if you want a DIY solution. by slashd'oh · · Score: 1

      Oops... you're correct; my server is running in safe mode and thus no Gallery for me. Sorry about that!

    4. Re:Try "Gallery" if you want a DIY solution. by jcostantino · · Score: 1

      I however did try Coppermine for my office and it seems to run very well!

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  33. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by waynelorentz · · Score: 1

    The Monitor is one of the most highly respected publications in America. It ranks with the New York Times and Wall Street Journal in journalistic circles. Because they know they're being watched by people who think they're nuts, they work extra hard to present even-handed unbiased treatment of the news.

    While I personally believe the whole Christian Science thing is a hybrid of nuts and pyramid schemes, I cannot deny that the newspaper is one of the best. I've been reading them off an on for a few years, and they are one of the world's great news resources.

  34. Er... by Sirch · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thinks the the grampa with grandchildren towards the right looks like he has the biggest hunchback ever?

    1. Re:Er... by saddino · · Score: 1

      I don't know his name, but his face rings a bell.

    2. Re:Er... by kalel666 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, you're getting the bill to clean Diet Coke out of my computer after I sprayed it out my nose.

      --
      I HAVE CUBIC WISDOM THAT TRANSCENDS AND CONTRADICTS ONE DAY GODS
    3. Re:Er... by angelleopard · · Score: 1

      http://flickr.com/photos/stewart/30288/ The kid with the red hair sitting on the right knee is Stewart, the president of Ludicorp, which is the company that is developing Flickr. He's sitting in his great-grandpa's lap, and I think the other kid is Stewart's cousin. I'm pretty sure that's just the chair, not a hunchbacked grandpa.

  35. My Halloween Sonny Bono pictures are on filckr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used flickr for that Me As Sonny Bono I liked flickr, pretty easy to use.

  36. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    the only thing religious about the CSM is that it has a single article that is christian oriented. It is published out of boston and I like to think of them in the same way as all those jesuit schools that have free/cheap quality private school education all over asia (including the one that i went to) especially in places others whould not go to.

    I'm sure there are people who will mock religion, but nothing is going to diminish the respect i have for the people like those who gave up personal fortunes, moved to third world countries and taught english, science and math (yes including evolution). One father at ST Xavier's in Kathmandu, Nepal was billionare in the US before he gave it all up.

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    The war on terror is a war for peace
  37. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by BReflection · · Score: 1

    Yes, and we all know the Economists' anonymity is unbiased, right? :: laugh ::

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  38. Photo rights? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does flikr allow you to retain your "rights" to photos? What about the other services out there? I'm not sure I'd want to upload my photos only to see them in ads or otherwise "stolen". Well...maybe those photos of my ex-wife would be OK ;)

  39. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

    Dunno if anyone else remembers, but back when Prozac was new, there was this brief news item that Prozac was causing people to cut themselves. It eventually hit all the major papers, only to disappear once everyone decided it was groundless. The original stories all came from the Christian Science Monitor. In retrospect, those original stories seem to be spurious, and in line with Christian Scientist doctrine.

    I realize it's kindof lame to harp on one single tiny item in the paper's excellent history. These articles might not have been poorly researched at all. They might even have been surprisingly prescient, given recent intimations of a link between some SSRIs and suicide in young people. Still, I've never had this little tiny thing explained to my satisfaction, so I bring it up again and again.

    Did anybody else pay any attention to this? Was this just poor journalism, unrelated to Christian Scientists? Was their journalism not so bad after all?

    --

    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  40. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I'm sure they aren't 98% biased on every issue AT ALL! Just more pablum for the sheep...

  41. SimDesk is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use SimDesk in Houston to share photos with my friends. Flickr only allows photos, but SimDesk allows all sorts files, so I can share my bookmarks and other stuff too.

    not bad for free - www.simHouston.com

  42. Article Ads on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been noticing there have been many advertorials on Slashdot such as this one. I assume this is a new service to generate revenue. Can I get the cost of having a fake story posted on Slashdot?

  43. Well, you know... by ultramk · · Score: 1, Funny

    In Korea, online photo services are only for old people.

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    You catch enchiladas by picking them up behind the head and holding them underwater until they don't kick anymore -VeGas
    1. Re:Well, you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its not even a bona fide meme. let it die. not funny.

  44. Re:Christian science monitor? by Peyna · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else amazed at the number of people here on Slashdot that apparently have never heard of CSM prior to this article?

    Learn more about the periodical before your dismiss it based on its title.

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    What?
  45. Too expensive by hephro · · Score: 1

    I find $30+ for a yearly subscription too much... you can get decent web hosting for gallery, your home page, web log, email, etc. for well under $100. While flickr and the other services mentioned are slick, they don't justify the expense IMHO.

  46. Another option for storing & sharing photos... by The+Goose · · Score: 1

    I've been using http://www.fotki.com/ for the past several years. For $30/year you get unlimited storage (I have over 7000 photos, using 15 gb). In addition, you get easy, deep linking to original resolution photos. And most important (for me), there is ftp access for upload/download. I have a 1 line "wget" statement running in cron that each night automatically syncronizes every photo of mine @ fotki and stores a copy on my local machine. That way, if my hard disk crashes, I get back every photo from them. If they go out of business, I have a copy of everything. They also have photo printing, but I prefer the quality of other sites better (I've tried 10+!!)

  47. Flickr API by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work at Flickr. Of paricular note to /.rs, check out our open API: http://www.flickr.com/services/api/

  48. Unearthed Outdoors by mailseth · · Score: 1

    I've been working on a site that, among other things, hosts outdoor related photos. It will be back under active development in a few weeks when the semester is over.

    http://www.unearthedoutdoors.com/

    ~Seth
  49. printing services by rjethmal · · Score: 1

    You mentioned trying 10+ printing services. Care to share what you learned? Who's got the best price/quality ratio? Service? Flexibility?

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    Push the envelope. Watch it bend. -Tool
    1. Re:printing services by The+Goose · · Score: 1

      For the past two years I've preferred http://www.photoaccess.com/. At that time I sent the same photo to every online printing service I could find (ofoto, shutterfly, yahoo, snapfish, etc). Side by side it was amazing to see the differences. However, all good things must come to an end, as photoaccess was recently purchased by PhotoWorks (who I have never been a fan of). That being said, the pictures are still pretty good, though I think an updated personal "comparison" is now in order.
      As an aside, I did the same thing with my holiday cards this year (printed "custom" cards, not photo w/ caption). Every service except for ofoto and shutterfly were terrible. After much hand wringing, I chose ofoto.

  50. Re:Another option for storing & sharing photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't suppose you'd be willing to share your wget statement? (I've only used wget very minimally.....)

  51. Mpix experiences by rjethmal · · Score: 1

    Has anyone out there used http://www.mpix.com/ to get prints of their photos? How was the service? Quality of prints? etc.

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    Push the envelope. Watch it bend. -Tool
  52. DigiPicStorage.com by juzam4 · · Score: 1

    Here is a new one I found. http://www.digipicstorage.com It's almost done being developed, but looks promising. The thing I like about it is that you can use any FTP program, or the web based tool to send/receive the pics. They also guarantee your pics won't be lost or deleted. None of the other sites I've found offer that. You can also send e-cards with your pics which should be cool.

  53. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Speare · · Score: 1
    Man, next you'll be telling me that even some GUYS read civic brochures published by the League of Women Voters!

    Sheesh, I bet you aren't even an Economist.

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  54. Re:Another option for storing & sharing photos by The+Goose · · Score: 1

    wget -T 120 -m -c -P /tmp/photos ftp://USERNAME:PASSWORD@ftp.fotki.com/

  55. My 2c worth by Moderatbastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The search isn't acessible from the front page. When I pointed this error out, tech support gave me a rude response. YMMV.

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    1. Re:My 2c worth by saddino · · Score: 1

      To search, just use this URL:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/%s

      where %s is your keyword.

      <ShamelessSelfPromotion>
      Or if you're running OS X, use the Flickr search engine in Beholder.
      </ShamelessSelfPromotion>

  56. Things I as an album browser would like to see. by thisissilly · · Score: 1

    AND searches (multiple tag searches). For instance, if I am looking for pictures of cats and dogs together, I would like to be able to find all photos tagged both "cat" and "dog". Right now, it appears Flickr only supports single keyword browsing.

    OR searches. "dog AND (cat OR kitten)"

    Date range searches, based on when the file was uploaded, and/or ability to sort on date.

    Ability to limit searches to various photo size ranges.

    No need for flash. Flash makes this site slow, at least in comparison to pure html based galleries I have seen.

    1. Re:Things I as an album browser would like to see. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can do this .. they've just hidden the feature for the past week or so.

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/search/tags:cat,kitte n/tagmode:any/

  57. Re:Another option for storing & sharing photos by onethumb · · Score: 1

    For the curious, we actually ran an intensive, scientific, blind "taste test" of all the major labs/printing services.

    Details to be found here.

    Enjoy!

    Don

    --
    my smug mug is on smugmug ... is yours?
  58. A little OT but still interesting by celerityfm · · Score: 1

    Since this is /. and all:

    "The Christian Science building in Boston [the one related to the Christian Science Monitor] is a favorite photographic subject as an architecturally interesting building. Additionally, in the early days of MIT's radar history, the Christian Science building was one of the more prominent buildings (before it was occluded by the newer tall skyscrapers) and showed up clearly on radar. It was a favorite test subject, and instantly recognizable on screen. When the first major breakthrough in radar (transmitting and receiving through the same antenna) occurred, during World War II, this great news was broadcast to the world through a cryptic shortwave message saying "Saw Mary Baker Eddy with one eye." By this, it was meant that a clear picture of the Christian Science building could be seen with just one antenna (rather than two antennas as had previously been the case, they being separate transmit and receive antennas). Of course the enemy had no way of knowing what this cryptic message meant, but the allies knew an important moment in history had occurred.

    Thus the Christian Science building, in addition to being an important architectural landmark, is also an important radar landmark."

    Got that from the great wikipedia article on them.

    Cool stuff!

    --
    ...unfortunately no one can be told what The Mat^H^H^HGoatse is...they must experience it for themselves...
  59. Why Flash by acomj · · Score: 1

    If they make the photos "cross postable" to other sites they probably use flash to prevent people from taking your images and cross posting them.

    I have a photo site and my images have ended up as backgrounds on a number of Blogs (I would never have noticed except they didn't copy the image they cross posted it.).

    Its probably to stop that, but if it makes it so noone wants to see the originals it isn't worth it.

  60. mpix by rebelcool · · Score: 1

    mpix is a very nice printing service. They're the consumer division for miller's (one of the best known and used pro-only printing labs).

    Easy to upload files to them, and they're one of the few services that accept any size of TIFF files.

    The digital black and white paper is very nice. So is the metallic.

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  61. Gallery, Coppermine or something else by yet+another+coward · · Score: 0

    Serious nerds want the ability to host their own sites and customize everything. This flickr site seems cool, but because the tinfoil blocks the waves of complacency, I know better than to trust others with my photographs unless I have TC (total control). I am considering the options. I really want advice instead of a flame war. What are the relative merits of Gallery and Coppermine?

    I have read a little. It seems that the 1.4 branch of Gallery has many kludges, and the next big update might be a while yet. Coppermine looks good, but maybe it's development and use are somewhat less. What are the big issues? Are there other good alternatives besides these two?

  62. Re:Another option for storing & sharing photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks!

  63. I hope by Retep+Vosnul · · Score: 2, Funny

    That if this service is ever introduced in the Netherlands they pick another name for it.

    Phoneticly it sounds a bit ... poofy.

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    1. Re:I hope by snofla · · Score: 1

      I heard people pronouncing it as flI-k&r

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    2. Re:I hope by comandante+frito · · Score: 1

      Could you elaborate a little more about why it sounds a bit ... poofy? My Dutch isn't good at all, but "flickr" sounds pretty much like the Dutch word "flikkeren", which means "flash", "flare", "flicker" in English.

  64. Re:Annoying in general by jefp · · Score: 1

    The flash usage is just one of many things about flickr that I can't take. It could potentially be great, if they removed about 80% of the features and fluff.

    I'm currently using http://www.fotothing.com/. It's nice and simple, like fotolog, but without fotolog's 500,000 Brazilian camgirls and ridiculously bad performance.

  65. Personally... by dep01 · · Score: 1

    I've gotten to be quite a fan of buzznet for image sharing. nice interface, growing featureset, free, of course.

    --
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  66. The photo service that I'd really like. by jefp · · Score: 1

    I want an API that lets me upload images for printing on demand. I have 7500 images in my photo database and I'm perfectly happy hosting them on my own server; but I also want people to be able to order prints. Uploading all 7500 to ofoto or shutterfly would be a bad idea. What should happen is a viewer clicks on an "Order Print" button on my site, and behind the scenes a CGI on my system uploads that file to the service and then redirects the viewer to a page where he or she can place an order. The service handles billing, printing, and shipping, and also sends me a percentage.

    1. Re:The photo service that I'd really like. by juzam4 · · Score: 1

      I think gallery has this feature. it lets you oder that pic from shutterfly.

  67. Do you mean Big Baby Jesus? by yorkpaddy · · Score: 0
    ...as did The Christian Science Monitor It's official. Baby Jeebus loves Flickr.
    Do you mean ODB. ODB died. that was sad
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  68. For the love of god... by ribo-bailey · · Score: 1

    why would you make an image hosting site use FLASH for static content?!

    1. Re:For the love of god... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because it's not static content?

      E.g., http://www.flickr.com/photos/caterina/35187/

  69. WHCC by rdarden · · Score: 1

    I have to give my praise for White House Custom Color (WHCC). They are still small enough that they will sometimes call you to make sure you're happy with their work, send you five free 8x10s of your images and samples of all of their paper when you open an account with them, and I've never seen photos packaged so carefully when they are mailed to me.

    I don't work for WHCC, etc., just a satisfied customer, but it's also a great example of a brick and mortar service company that has expanded to embrace the Internet.

    BTW, this is based on my experiences where I did all of my own color correction with calibrated monitors in a controlled lighting environment. I can't speak for their color correction services.

  70. java/linux photo uploader--wow! by rjnagle · · Score: 1

    I opted for flickr because they were cheap, had lots of metadata and open API's. I really missed a linux photo uploader client, which smugmug seems to have, a really big deal.

    The best thing going for smugmug is that the open API's might inspire a linux dude to write his own uploader/metadata capture tool.

    --
    Robert Nagle, Idiotprogrammer, Houston
    1. Re:java/linux photo uploader--wow! by llin · · Score: 1

      One of the benefits of having a fully open API: FlickrUploadr written in PyGtk by Michele Campeotto.

      Personally, I've gone the cmdline route. Here's a perl-script I use that I run in my cron to automatically u/l what's in a dropbox folder: flickrer

      Be sure to check out the Flickr API group. There's also a mailing list

  71. simplest interface by brlewis · · Score: 1

    On ourdoings.com there is no use of flash, JavaScript is optional, and the client-side uploading software is supported on Linux. If you have a large pile of photos to put up, ourdoings.com handily beats all the "best" services out there, organizing them by the digital timestamps so that you can quickly put in entries for the appropriate dates.

  72. slide shows as bandwidth-saving devices by brlewis · · Score: 1

    Nobody wants to sit through a slide show, so service providers save a lot of bandwidth by the user going elsewhere. I find it much more user-friendly to put a bunch of 640x480 shots on one page and let people scroll up and down to look at the ones they're interested in. At only 50kb or so per image, it isn't a ton of bandwidth either.

  73. why ofoto and shutterfly provide poor sharing by brlewis · · Score: 1

    Both ofoto and shutterfly have a business model where the money is made off of prints. If they provided really good sharing, customers would probably only order prints of the very best pictures. They'd be happy to just look at most of them on the web.

  74. you retain rights unless you sign them over by brlewis · · Score: 1

    Implicitly, you grant them license to display your photos the way you intend them to be displayed on their service. Read any "service agreement" before you agree to it to see if you're also granting them license to use photos in advertising, etc. I don't know about the other services out there, except my own ourdoings.com does not get rights to "steal" your work in any way.

  75. Re:Christian science monitor? by patrixmyth · · Score: 1

    I don't want any part of their religious cult kookery! I'll stick with my Washington Times and FOX news for Fair and Balanced coverage, thank you very much.

    Seriously, though, you gotta respect that they at least let you in on the potential bias. I wish Rev. Moon and Rupert Murdoch would have let us know up front what brand of crazy they were selling.

    --
    "Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey?"- Peter Gabriel
  76. shutterbook.com by vena · · Score: 1

    i've been digging shutterbook lately, if only that it behaves much more like a desktop application. which is neat. hooray.

    1. Re:shutterbook.com by generalbastard · · Score: 1

      amen.

    2. Re:shutterbook.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoa ... this is a lot cooler. trying to browse the albums on sites like flickr and the like is like trying to take a dump sideways. this actually presents a usable interface. decent use of mod_rewrite, too.

  77. SDK's Available by oravecz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do any of the online photo services (ofoto, snapfish, etc.) provide an SDK that would let developers bundle professional photo printing capabilities into custom software or web sites? I would like to host photos on my website using some custom software I wrote (or any of the hundreds of PHP-based alternatives), but I want family and friends to be able to order printed copies of the photos.

    I realize that I can upload the photos to one of these services, but I would prefer to upload the photo to the service on-demand.

    Adobe Photoshop Album provides this service in their software package using a wizard, but they probably deal with different business development people than Joe Schmo sharing photos with his friends.

  78. Photoshop Album by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 1
    Flickr looks pretty cool, but I prefer to keep my photos to myself.

    I've been a big fan of Adobe Photoshop Album since it came out a couple of years ago. Like FlickR it uses tags to organize photos, and multiple tags can be assigned to the same picture. Lookups are incredible fast, and there are customizable templates for web posting. Since I 'blog' I like to keep stuff on my site so I can earn some Google ad revenues.

    Most impressive is the amount of logging data it keeps. The program keeps track of when each photo was imported (by session as well as date) into the system so you can make adjustments at a later time to a certain import run.

    It integrates fairly seamlessly with photoshop and always backs up the original photograph before you start mangling it :).

    Sadly it's Windows only. Not sure if it works on WINE, but I'd highly recommend it to somebody who stores a boatload of photos like me.

  79. Flickr is Geek-Friendly, Amateur-Friendly by beej · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I like: no storage limits and effective use of "tag" keywords to mark photos, as well as the general usage of the site (photostreams, comments, and so on.)

    The comments are encouraging for an amateur photographer like me who wants to take good pictures for people to enjoy, and not be eviscerated by a professional critic.

    Definitely room for improvement (sets of sets, printing integration), but they seem to be hard at work making this happen. And it looks like they're going to charge $60/year, which seems kind of pricey compared to the competition.

    What finally (after a couple days) pushed me over the edge to pay them and subscribe were the fact that they have seamless integration with Creative Commons licenses for your photos (cool-factor points), and an open open API for managing your photos through 3rd-party scripts. With it, I've written a python script that I use to batch-upload and annotate photos. I haven't tried their client with Wine, so I don't know if that option exists for Linux-only users.

  80. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you are aware that there has been recent research into the link between anti-depressants & a rise in suicide (I think it was in children). So maybe they weren't so wrong as you think ...

  81. Gallery beats em all by Flagg0204 · · Score: 1

    I run gallery as well and it actually integrates perfectly into geeklog. (Shamesless plug http://www.becauseimbored.com/ No its not Pr0n :) I am also currenlty working on another site based off of Gallery2 which has some great improvments. The CVS source is fairly stable, and the features which have been added to gallery2 are great.
    Linking to webcam images - These images will auto-update at an interval that you decide.

    New panaroma module that allows viewing panaromic pictures taken with a digital camera. I havent tested this module yet, nor will I ever get a chance, but a very cool feature none the less.

    Shopping Cart I havent used this yet, but for an amature photographer to sell his/hers works this could be a really nice feature.

    Displaying of movies - Im not sure on the compatibilty with this particular feature but it uses ffmpeg to display the movies. I tested this on a episode of futurama standard MPEG2 encoding and it seemed to work fine

    New user registration/creation of new user albums - When a new user registers it will automagically create a album based on that user.

    User Comments - users can make comments and vote on pics.

    Nokia Upload API - Apparenlty certain certain nokia phones can interface with this API and upload pictures taken from the camera phone. I currently do this using a bash script a perl script called galleryadd and postfix. Postfix receives the email forwards it to procmail whcih calls the bash script which then invokes galleryadd. (another shamless plug http://www.wapcams.net/Email pics@wapcams.net if you want to add something :)

    Like Gallery1 it used a MySql backend and php scripting. Themes are also being addressed in G2 to make it easier for the admin to customize the look and feel of his/her site.

    There is also talk of implemting a "Click to buy" function which will allow you sell your pics through gallery. Overall its looks very promising. And new features are being added all the time. Check it out http://gallery.sourceforge.net/

  82. How about Sony's Imagestation ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.imagestation.com

  83. Re:Christian Science Monitor? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

    From my post:

    "They might even have been surprisingly prescient, given recent intimations of a link between some SSRIs and suicide in young people."

    --

    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  84. Apparently smugmug has got privacy problems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=3&u= /ap/20041204/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/seals_prisoner_phot os/

    A reporter finds some private photos on smugmug with google, BUYS them for 29 cents, and the owner is wondering why they were available to the public at all. Now they are no longer available and the google search leads to smugmug. I wonder if the woman has grounds for a lawsuit? Maybe the part below from their terms of use gives them an out? Are googling reporters considered "third party hackers"? Ouch.

    "smugmug uses industry standard security measures to protect the loss, misuse and alteration of the information under our control. Although we make good faith efforts to store the non-public information collected by the smugmug website in a secure operating environment that is not available to the public, we cannot guarantee complete security. Further, while we make every effort to ensure the integrity and security of our network and systems, we cannot guarantee that our security measures will prevent third-party "hackers" from illegally accessing our site."

  85. it isn't static by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/caterina/35187/

    you'll notice the use of notes on certain images .. image owners can open permissions that allow friends, family or anyone with a flickr account to add notes that highlight areas of the image with little comments.

  86. it allows you to put nifty notes on images though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/caterina/35187/

    if you hover your mouse over the image, you can see descriptions of the various goings on in the photo.

    it may be a little 'gee-whizzy', but it can be a good way of overlaying information onto the photo.