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Robbers Scared by GTA

HellSpam writes "Some robbers tried to burglarize a poor old lady and her 3 grandsons. Her grandsons happened to be playing Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas, and the sounds of the police from the game scared them away! From the article: "The police in the game were saying, 'Stop, we have you surrounded. This is the police.' The burglar, unknowingly, thought this was the actual police and panicked ... being apprehended by PlayStation." Now, no more saying games are bad for you..."

472 comments

  1. and then ... by klang · · Score: 4, Funny

    the grandsons beat the shit out of the poor burglar..

    1. Re:and then ... by vranash · · Score: 5, Funny

      With a large, pink, double dildo ;-p

    2. Re:and then ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      ...that belonged to the grandma..

    3. Re:and then ... by Viceice · · Score: 4, Funny

      reminds me of a story i read in the local paper.

      These 2 burglars planed on robbing the home of a lawyer while he was out, as they had staked out the place and figured that his wife would be home alone during the day time.

      So one afternoon, after making sure the lawyer had left, they put their plan into action. Unbeknown to them, the lawyer's son and his buddies from his hockey team were in, fresh from a game.

      So these 2 guys walked in with a knife each, to find 6 fuming mad built up guys with hockey sticks + 1 old lady.

      One got away, one was handed over to to the cops after being beaten to a pulp while being "aprehended".

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    4. Re:and then ... by JimmehAH · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why is this troll?

      There's a large, double-ended dildo in the showers of the Police Departments in GTA:SA. It's quite a powerful weapon for melee. Almost as satisfying as beating a tramp to death with a bunch of flowers. In the game of course.

    5. Re:and then ... by rhout · · Score: 1

      This whole thing sounds a bit too much like "Home Alone"

    6. Re:and then ... by Deekin_Scalesinger · · Score: 3, Funny

      I read that as "hockey sticks +1", and my first thought is that they were pretty low level players...

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    7. Re:and then ... by mitsuhama · · Score: 1

      Still can't beat my orge slaying knife, it has a +6 vs orges.

    8. Re:and then ... by OhioJoe · · Score: 1

      And no joke, I read your post as "Orgey slaying knife". Something from the "Realm of Ashcroft"? :)

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    9. Re:and then ... by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
      Reminds me of another story. These two dumbshits got a summer job from a couple of old geezers who lived in their neighborhood. They mowed the lawn and cleaned up some leaves and crap.

      School started.

      One day, the dumbshits came up with the wise idea that they would bust into the old geezers' home in the middle of the cottonpickin' night and steal a bunch of crap.

      So they went over there one night and busted down the back door, making as much noise as they wanted, thinking that the old geezers would just get scared or something. The noise woke up some girl who was sleeping upstairs. She came down to see what was going on, and when she saw them, she screamed like girls do. Instantly a bunch of young guys, weight lifters, sports players, and this gun collector, ran downstairs and beat the two dumbshits to a pulp. Turns out, the old geezers had a bunch of their grandkids living with them. They just happened to be away during the day when the dumbshits worked in the geezers' yard.

      Nanny nanny boo boo.

    10. Re:and then ... by Deekin_Scalesinger · · Score: 1

      I need to roll to see if you are getting drunk first...

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  2. Oh yeah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe that.

    Good sound system, huh?

    1. Re:Oh yeah. by McKinney83 · · Score: 1

      Why not? My freshman year in college was the same year the GTA III came out.

      Having lived in a dorm with people's PS2s hooked up to their stereos blasting GTA III, I can tell you that the sirens are very realistic.

      However, I can't speak for GTA:SA's sounds.

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  3. This happened to me once by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 5, Funny

    A man ran in, pointed a gun at me, saw that I was playing Daikatana and ran off screaming.

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    1. Re:This happened to me once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Daikatana is pretty horrible, isn't it? :-)

    2. Re:This happened to me once by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that it's not so bad once you get past the first level.

      It's just that it's really hard to get past the first level without switching games!

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    3. Re:This happened to me once by Stevyn · · Score: 1

      Then the guy ran back to his house, huffing and puffing and out of breath. When his girlfriend asked where the stolen TV was, he replied, "I ...think...I...saw a ghost"

    4. Re:This happened to me once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      A man ran in, pointed a gun at me, saw that I was playing Duke Nukem for Ever and vanished in a puff of logic.

  4. What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish the 3 kids then all picked up baseball bats and laid into the thief

    before taking off with his car and finding hookers.

    1. Re:What I wish... by vranash · · Score: 1, Interesting

      WTF, this is SA, you don't use baseball bats when you have a perfectly good dildo just waiting to beat down some bitch ;-p

    2. Re:What I wish... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      except kids these days all play soccer, not baseball. Hard to do much damage with a soccer ball!

    3. Re:What I wish... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      You've obviously never played soccer ;) I know quite a few athletic people (they're relatives) and out of all the ones that suffer injuries, most of them play soccer.

    4. Re:What I wish... by SQLz · · Score: 1, Informative

      Did the injury happen to be they fell on the ground holding their shin till someone on the opposing team was red carded.

    5. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soccer is for homosexuals and prepubescent boys.

    6. Re:What I wish... by Olix · · Score: 1

      Careful... the British Holigan Army will mobalise and come kill you.

    7. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah- you gotta worry about Holigans... they're nearly as dangerous as Thgs and Redncks.

    8. Re:What I wish... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Which is why the rest of the world watches that, instead of our Football (not the real one - soccer to you)?

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    9. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and girls.

    10. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      prepubescent girls or just girls in general?

    11. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He meant the soccer ball. Not the game itself.

    12. Re:What I wish... by randomblast · · Score: 1

      What about prebubescent gays?

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    13. Re:What I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try watching shaolin soccer sometime.

  5. Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    What is the point of the word "burglarize"? "Burgle" means exactly the same thing.

    1. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      because,

      Americans need to feel like they're different from the rest of the world.

    2. Re:Urm... by TwistedSquare · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apparently, it's the difference between British and American English.

    3. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What is the point of the word "burglarize"? "Burgle" means exactly the same thing.

      Maybe it's that "burgle" is onomatopoeic for several possible bodily functions?

      BTW, my OED says the definition of "burgle" is "to burglarize", indicating the former is in disuse (on its way to archaism).

    4. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because this is america and we dont use 'burgle'.

      Infact Ive never seen the word used like that.

    5. Re:Urm... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > "Burgle" means exactly the same thing.

      But 'burgle' sounds too much like what a baby does to your shoulder.

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    6. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      In the US we like our words to have phonetic relationships to meaning. Sound and meter very important and we like our words to be cool. It is not that we don't have "cute" words, but robbery (notice hard 'B' and "ery" sound) is cool and the word used to describe it shouldn't sound like a teddy bear picnic on lollipop lake. Burgle sounds like being tickled or at worst half vomiting in your throat, but it does not sound cool. Queer eye for the straight guy meets 'theft' and you get burgle.

      On the other side of the coin, this is one reason British humor is so funny.

    7. Re:Urm... by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Funny

      In my opiniation, "burglarize" is a perfectionally validative wordification. How else would reportization of the securitial/policial forceship appearize to be importantive enoughly to be respectative by the massmediaship and influentate the societyness?

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    8. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose the same could be said for ironic and ironical (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ironical ).

    9. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      robbery (notice hard 'B' and "ery" sound) is cool and the word used to describe it shouldn't sound like a teddy bear picnic on lollipop lake. Burgle sounds like being tickled or at worst half vomiting in your throat, but it does not sound cool.

      "Robbery" is the equivalent of "burglary", not of "burgle". "Rob" is the equivalent of "burgle", unless Americans have taken to say "roberize".

    10. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we know how repulsing it is to be *different*. I mean nothing pisses me off more than people that are different. Stupid bastards why won't they stop being different and conform to all of my desires! Diversity is dead...homogeneity for all!.

    11. Re:Urm... by Guuge · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the wonderful world of synonyms! That's right, there can be two words that share a single meaning! From idealist/idealistic to extortionate/extortionary, English is full of them.

      So please get over it.

    12. Re:Urm... by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because "Hamburglarizer" was too hard for McDonalds to say.

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    13. Re:Urm... by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      It depends mostly on you having a chainsaw or not.

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    14. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my opiniation, "burglarize" is a perfectionally validative wordification. How else would reportization of the securitial/policial forceship appearize to be importantive enoughly to be respectative by the massmediaship and influentate the societyness?

      I didn't know Jesse Jackson posted on Slashdot.

    15. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He DOES have a validictative pointedness.

    16. Re:Urm... by david.given · · Score: 1
      In my opiniation, "burglarize" is a perfectionally validative wordification. How else would reportization of the securitial/policial forceship appearize to be importantive enoughly to be respectative by the massmediaship and influentate the societyness?

      George! You finally got a Slashdot account!

    17. Re:Urm... by Darren+Winsper · · Score: 1

      I think you need to learn the difference between adjectives and nouns...

    18. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't misunderestimate how much the Americans have messed up the English language.

    19. Re:Urm... by DavidBrown · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Burglarize" is a perfectly cromulent word.

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    20. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! Were you ever a world famous boxer?!

    21. Re:Urm... by thrash242 · · Score: 1

      What's the point of all those extra "u"s you put in all those words that don't need them? "Color" means "Colour" and it's shorter and easier to type.

      That, and "burgle" sounds funny to me.

    22. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other side of the coin, this is one reason British humor is so funny.

      It saddens me to think of people in the US watching British humour and laughing because "Dey talks so funny, hur hur" instead of actually seeing the humour.

    23. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That, and "burgle" sounds funny to me.

      'Burglarize' honestly *does* sound like the kind of mistake made by people who mangle their worlds.

      Damn doggone kids! Gone buglarizing that them there doohicky thingy store!

      Mockering the judiciarial system like that! It just ain't right!

    24. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can only thank god, that I have no idea what you are talking about.

    25. Re:Urm... by cooley · · Score: 1

      I guess I wasn't aware that the rest of the world used the word burgle; maybe just the English speaking countries, I'd have thought (such as Australia, Canada, Ireland, the UK, etc)....

      This is certainly a linguistic mystery that we should not, nay, must not let lie.

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    26. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Queer eye for the straight guy meets 'theft'
      Arse burglers?

    27. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of food is hamburgler anyway?

    28. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sure is, those who don't know of it need to embiggen their vocabulary.

    29. Re:Urm... by scotta451 · · Score: 1

      Any relation to a turdburgler?

    30. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Just like we slashdoterize servers...

      All your base are belongize to us!

    31. Re:Urm... by necronom426 · · Score: 1

      Two reasons.

      1) The correct spelling is colour. Color is a spelling mistake.

      2) If I had never seen the word before, I would pronounce it the same as the thing on a shirt round the neck. The word colour has a "U" sound in it.

    32. Re:Urm... by necronom426 · · Score: 1

      I was convinced that they were taking the piss out of the article for inventing a stupid childish sounding word.

      I really find it hard to believe that anyone would really say that without it trying to be some sort of comedy word.

      If you "ise" something you are normally trying to turn it into the thing. i.e. If you customise something you are making it into a custom made thing, and popularise to make it popular.

      Were these people trying to make the house into a burgular? That is exactly how I read it (on the /. page). When I read the article I just thought they had made a mistake and /. were laughing at them.

    33. Re:Urm... by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      "Burglarize" is the original word. "Burgle" is a back-formation, "what a burglar must do".

      I was quite embarassed to find that this was AHD's listed etymology after disrupting class last Wednesday to "correct" the teacher for using "burglarize".

    34. Re:Urm... by thrash242 · · Score: 1

      1) No, only in British English, which I don't speak. Color is correct and is much closer to how it's actually pronounced. The extraneous "u" and the silly "re" thing come from French and serve no purpose in English as it's pronounced (at least by people I hear) today.

      2) I would pronounce it cuhl-OAR, as that's how it looks. The word has no "u" sound, sorry.

    35. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK I'll bite. Why isn't it pronounced the same way as colon then.

    36. Re:Urm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gurgle

    37. Re:Urm... by mink · · Score: 1

      Sorry for adding to this so late.

      But sometimes the point of the humor is funny talking. For instance in the Life of Brian, the whole reason the Roman (I think he was a governor) was so funny was his way of speaking. Sure the scene where he talks about Bigus Dickus would have been funny without it, but it was a twist of the humor knife the accent gave to the whole thing.
      I'd also point out that in the same film the people were giving him names that would give him trouble to pronounce and they were all "He talks so funny, hur hur".

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  6. It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This happened back in March. RTFA, Taco.

    1. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by spac3manspiff · · Score: 1

      Since when was 12/11/04 in March?

    2. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by baryon351 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From the article: "Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids.".

      So back in March, it couldn't have been GTA:SA

    3. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA.

      "Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids."

    4. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by utopianfiat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, you beat me to the chase.
      I recall the line was in both of the previous games, so really it could have been GTA3 or vice city.
      *or* if you wanted to take the newspaper literally, it might have actually been GTA for playstation.

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    5. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

      And in fact, the poster made a huge leap there. Even the article just refers to it as "Grand Theft Auto":

      Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids. The children happened to be playing a video game called Grand Theft Auto at the time.

      I suspect it was GTA:VC, since I don't recall that GTA3 had police scanner messages like that (best you'd get, you'd hear radio chatter if you were driving a police car, or if you had a wanted rating .. "suspect last seen in ___".)

    6. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but GTA:SA is this week's secret-sponsor ... so Shhhhh! Just go with it.

    7. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when was 12/11/04 in March?

      I believes this means you need to go back, RTFA and get a fucking clue.

    8. Re:It wasn't GTA:San Andreas by vitalyb · · Score: 1

      These kids probably WAREZed it!

      The conlusion is that both pirated games AND violent games are great for society.

  7. Home Alone? by Peden · · Score: 5, Funny

    This sounds abit too much like something from the film "Home Alone" doesn't it?

    1. Re:Home Alone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gangster 'Johnny': Who is it?
      Pizza Boy: It's Little Nero, sir. I have your pizza.
      Gangster 'Johnny': Leave it at the doorstep and get the hell 'outta here.
      Pizza Boy: Okay, but what about the money?
      Gangster 'Johnny': What money?
      Pizza Boy: Well, you'll have to pay for your pizza, sir.
      Gangster 'Johnny': How much do I owe you?
      Pizza Boy: That'll be $11.80, sir.
      [Kevin drops the money from the door hatch]
      Gangster 'Johnny': Keep the change, you filthy animal.
      Pizza Boy: Cheapskate.
      Gangster 'Johnny': Hey, I'm going to give you to the count of ten, to get your ugly face out of my property, before I pump your guts full of lead! 1, 2, 10!

    2. Re:Home Alone? by cl191 · · Score: 1

      Why did "Wacko Jacko" came up to my mind every time I hear "Home Alone"?

    3. Re:Home Alone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did "Wacko Jacko" came up to my mind every time I hear "Home Alone"?

      Hmm... probably because Michael Jackson "came up" Macauley Culkin's behind when he was spending the night at his house. Arf.

  8. Remember kids... by mistersooreams · · Score: 1, Funny

    Crime doesn't P(l)ay(station)!

    Thanks, I'm here all week.

    1. Re:Remember kids... by WillerZ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks, I'm here all week.

      God help us all

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    2. Re:Remember kids... by sjrstory · · Score: 1

      Gay in the homersexual sense, or gay as in happy?

    3. Re:Remember kids... by SamBeckett · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Funny, of course. It is disturbing that the moderators thought I was making fun of the homosexuals by my casual use of the word gay. Does it have such a negative connotation?

    4. Re:Remember kids... by sjrstory · · Score: 1

      Nah, i'm just giving you a hard time. I have a few homosexual friends myself who use the word gay to be synonymous with lame.

    5. Re:Remember kids... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God helps those that help themselves. Don't just stand there, grab a bat and help out. We'll go for hookers later.

  9. GTA saved my life! by moojj · · Score: 0

    Wow, this is definitely some good publicity for GTA (probably the only good publicity).

    1. Re:GTA saved my life! by TylerL82 · · Score: 1

      Not really.
      The burglar trained himself on GTA.

    2. Re:GTA saved my life! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he trained using GTA, he would know to run the car through the window as can be done with certain stores in GTA3,

    3. Re:GTA saved my life! by moojj · · Score: 0

      Haha!

  10. Burglarize!!! by duncangough · · Score: 0, Troll

    Please, stop making words up, it's worse than boswollox

    Lightning Pool

    1. Re:Burglarize!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find it's quite real - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Burglariz e .

    2. Re:Burglarize!!! by rifter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please, stop making words up, it's worse than boswollox

      Of course burglarize is a word. Before you criticize someone's grammar maybe you should read a dictionary.

    3. Re:Burglarize!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides, am I the only one who finds verbing a useful language feature? (Maybe that has something to do with the fact that verbing is an integral part of my native language, though.)

    4. Re:Burglarize!!! by Cumstien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a perfectly cromulent word.

    5. Re:Burglarize!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before you criticize someone's vocabulary, maybe you should read a dictionary.

      I think the word you were looking for was "diction", not "grammar".

    6. Re:Burglarize!!! by kylegordon · · Score: 1

      It's an Americanism. M-W will of course have it in their dictionary, as they are an American company. If you ask the OED, then you'll find it as a North American term for "burgle". Instead of everyone criticizing each other, maybe we should _all_ learn to check a variety of sources before making such statements.

    7. Re:Burglarize!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we will complain about fucked up yanky spelling whenever we damn well like, what sort of a word is burglarize is some mad up word because all yanks are too fucking stupid to know the correct one.

    8. Re:Burglarize!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such crapulence!

    9. Re:Burglarize!!! by kylegordon · · Score: 1

      You complaining to me? I think you'll find that I'm on the same side of the Atlantic as you...

  11. Crappy journalism as usual by t_allardyce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This was back in March according to the article so GTA:SA wasnt out yet! (must have been a previous one) The story is in the news because they just got sentenced to around 5 years each - kind of like a darwin award they're gonna get the piss taken out of them in jail.

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    1. Re:Crappy journalism as usual by HellSpam · · Score: 1

      Yep, the story it self happened in march. So I made a mistake and automatically wrote GTA:SA, that was my bad. But to tell you the truth, I didn't see it on fark or something. I saw it when surfing around... don't even remember the original site. Anyway, still a funny story.

    2. Re:Crappy journalism as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA, it doesn't mention SA, there was a version of GTA prior to SA, right?

      Don't blame the crappy journalists, blame the crappy /. editors.

      And if that isn't right, you can blame the crappy submission for assuming it was GTA:SA

    3. Re:Crappy journalism as usual by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      oh yeah, they gonna be som's bitch!

      I heard the new prisioner initiation now is no longer gang rape -- you get to 'toss salad' on bubba, using either jelly or syrup.

      Personally, I likes the Syrup!

      Why don't you just have them give your oral?

      Cause when you sukin' dick, you can pretend its somethin' else...
      When you eatin' ass, you knows you eatin ass!


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    4. Re:Crappy journalism as usual by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      I was blaming the /. editors!

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  12. Yeah Right! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you sure that he didn't die laughing at you?

    LK

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  13. stupid burglar by Sweetshark · · Score: 1

    this guy heard: "Stop, we have you surrounded. This is the police." and then ran away although he did not know the position of the assumed policemen?
    Not the brightest guy - he might have been easily shot if this had been real ...

    1. Re:stupid burglar by gronofer · · Score: 1

      I suppose he could tell from the direction that they were in the living room.

    2. Re:stupid burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Not the brightest guy - he might have been easily shot if this had been real ..."

      of course, that's why his trying to rob. If he is smart, then he should be doing something different..like looking for a job

    3. Re:stupid burglar by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      He has a job. Just not ... a very productive one, apparently. But yeah, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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    4. Re:stupid burglar by telstar · · Score: 1
      " If he is smart, then he should be doing something different..like looking for a job"
      • Maybe he was ... he just didn't know that he wasn't supposed to be looking in people's houses.
  14. Re:now thats retarded.... by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

    Do they have surround sound?

    Either it is awfully good sound system or really dumb crooks! :P

  15. And your source is? by EvilUmpir · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is an amusing story, but how do we know this happened? Did the crook get caught and confess this? Or is this just some joke people are taking as fact?

    1. Re:And your source is? by wdd1040 · · Score: 1

      I'm going to go with some joke.

      There is no way they could find that out unless the criminal had an IQ of 70 and then he's lucky to get out of the house with pants on.

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    2. Re:And your source is? by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 1

      Well, read the article - apparently they were actually in the house, and ran off, and yes, later got arrested.

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    3. Re:And your source is? by sploo22 · · Score: 1

      Read the article. The four burglars were arrested, two of them are already in jail.

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    4. Re:And your source is? by corbettw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, this totally happened! This guy at work, he has a cousin who goes to school with one of the kids in the story. And he swears it really happened this way!

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    5. Re:And your source is? by swtaarrs · · Score: 1

      If you read the story, it says that they were caught and the kids told the real police what happened.

    6. Re:And your source is? by chabotc · · Score: 1

      Well talking about proof ... you have proven that you don't actually read articles, and just troll..

      Click the link and read the awnser to your questions:

      Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids.

      and:

      Police arrested the four men. Samuel Woodrow received a five-year prison sentence this week. Ronnie Farris is serving four years. Lucas Griffin got probation. And Zachary Brandenburg's trial is in January.

    7. Re:And your source is? by vsprintf · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is no way they could find that out unless the criminal had an IQ of 70 and then he's lucky to get out of the house with pants on.

      Most criminals are not Lex Luthor. Why do you think there are so many dumb-criminal stories? They really are stupid for the most part. I had one thief (or thieves) fail to steal my Mustang because they jimmied the door and pulled the ignition lock cylinder but then couldn't start the engine. The thing was the key switch had broken and it was so expensive to replace that I had rerouted the wiring to two easily visible/traced switches for ignition and starter. They aren't real bright.

    8. Re:And your source is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dude, "this guy at work" is a liar and played you for a fool. Sure it probably really happened, but he has no connection to it, and you're just gullible.

      Some dude at work told me that his cousin goes to school with one of the kids of the inventor of the English language, and he says that the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary.

    9. Re:And your source is? by ChreexLe · · Score: 1

      ...he says that the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary.

      really?

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    10. Re:And your source is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They aren't real bright.

      You're right. They wanted to steal a Mustang? Idiots!

    11. Re:And your source is? by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      You're right. They wanted to steal a Mustang? Idiots!

      It was a '66 Fastback. 289, 4-speed with short-throw linkage, heavy clutch, traction bars, Holly 600 CFM with vacuum secondaries and electric choke, manifold, polished and ported, and headers. The crowning touch was a custom aluminum glove compartment to replace that ridiculous cardboard stock thing. Still not worth stealing? It's also why I didn't have money for a new ignition switch. :)

  16. Bad luck for the burglar by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 4, Interesting

    that he was in the US.In our small country , England , the Govt would charge the old lady , for scaring the burglar.

    On a serious note , this is a very big issue.Unlike the US , where the rights of home owners using force against burglars are quite clear , in the UK this is a grey area.Home owners can use reasonable force only and that is decided by the courts.

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    1. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      i.e in the UK the right for you to kill a trespasser outright for any reason is questionable because human life is more important than your TV. I agree it needs clearing up and you definitely need to be able to protect yourself without the fear of getting into trouble for it even in the extreme case where they end up dead but i don't think you should be allowed to kill someone just because they're in your house and i don't think the police should be going round telling people that "if the theif is dead there can only be one side to the story wink wink". Also in built up areas the use of guns becomes more dangerous as stray bullets going out of windows etc can end up anywhere. As always the best solution is to a) create a society where people are less likely to want/need to steal, b) let the police handle it if possible and c) stick together with your neighbours watch out for each other with non-leathal weapons and PS2's

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    2. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Home owners can use reasonable force only and that is decided by the courts.

      Actually, it's usually decided by the police because they wouldn't even bother putting such a case forward for prosecution.

      You've heard of Tony Martin, but how many burglaries do you think there are in the UK per week? Thousands? This whole 'rights of the householder' thing is just got up to sell newspapers and get politicians re-elected.

    3. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      In Canada, the general concept is much the same as the UK's -- except, in my 4th year university law class, we were told that a homeowner is allowed to defend himself with "similar" force.

      Thus, using a gun as defense against a burglar with a knife could very well result in serious chargers against the homeowner. (Though, "gun vs. gun" is sometimes okay. There are numerous cases in which a homeowner has shot -- and killed -- a robber [with a gun], and it was deemed to be in self-defense.)

      I suspect that this creates a bit of a grey area if attacked with, for example, a knife, and you defend with, as another example, a baseball bat. ("My dagger +1 is just like your club +1, so it's safe for us to fight.")

    4. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that he was in the US.In our small country , England , the Govt would charge the old lady , for scaring the burglar.


      That happened to me. And I live in Texas!

      One time a freeloading religious salesmen was tresspassing on my property. I told him to "get the fuck off my land", but he wasn't too quick to stop selling me his book on religion. He was definitely casing my home. Let me just say that I had no reason to trust him.

      Since he was so slow to move, I just gently punched him. He got the message (and a little blood on his shirt!) and left.

      LATER, the police come to my door. I told them that I wanted to press charges against the vagrent, and they said that he wants to press charges against me!

      I told them that as a taxpayer and a very upstanding citizen in town (I run the Independence day parade every year for the past 5 years), they should go find something better to do. They "warned" me against defending my self - even if someone is violating my property! And then they left.

      I never heard back from them - maybe because I called and gave the city mayor hell about their attitude.

      So even though this might happen in England, sadly, it can happen in Texas too.

    5. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the right of self defence is being erode here as well. Used to be if someone broke into your house it was grounds to use whatever force necessary to repell him. Now if looks like he might not have been directly threatening you or someone else you wih rape murder or bodily harm you stand a good chance of being charged and possibly convicted.
      Still if someone breaks into my house I'm NOT going to try and find out if he just wan't to take the tv and my cash or my head. The old saying goes: 'better to be tried by twelve than carried by six'.

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    6. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by AlphaPB · · Score: 2, Informative
      Unlike the US , where the rights of home owners using force against burglars are quite clear , in the UK this is a grey area.Home owners can use reasonable force only and that is decided by the courts.

      The U.S. is a nation composed of 50 states, each with its own laws governing self-defense in the home. There are states with the so-called "castle laws" which allow the use of deadly force inside the home, but even these states might have a "retreat requirement" which requires that the homeowner retreat to a place of safety if but only if it is possible to do so in a safe manner.

      In the US, the justifiability of a self-defense incident is still very much decided by a court. The mere availability of deadly weapons in this nation does not mean that gun-owning Americans can use them at will.

    7. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Trailwalker · · Score: 1
      Perhaps not all that much of a change:
      SERGEANT: When a felon's not engaged in his employment
      POLICE: His employment
      SERGEANT: Or maturing his felonious little plans,
      POLICE: Little plans,
      SERGEANT: His capacity for innocent enjoyment
      POLICE: 'Cent enjoyment
      SERGEANT: Is just as great as any honest man's.
      POLICE: Honest man's
      SERGEANT: Our feelings we with difficulty smother
      POLICE: 'Culty smother
      SERGEANT: When constabulary duty's to be done.
      POLICE: To be done.
      SERGEANT: Ah, take one consideration with another,
      POLICE: With another,
      SERGEANT: A policeman's lot is not a happy one.
      ALL: Ah, when constabulary duty's to be done,
      to be done,
      A policeman's lot is not a happy one, happy one.
      SERGEANT: When the enterprising burglar's not a-burgling
      POLICE: Not a-burgling
      SERGEANT: When the cut-throat isn't occupied in crime,
      POLICE: 'Pied in crime,
      SERGEANT: He loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling
      POLICE: Brook a-gurgling
      SERGEANT: And listen to the merry village chime.
      POLICE: Village chime.
      SERGEANT: When the coster's finished jumping on his mother,
      POLICE: On his mother,
      SERGEANT: He loves to lie a-basking in the sun.
      POLICE: In the sun.
      SERGEANT: Ah, take one consideration with another,
      POLICE: With another,
      SERGEANT: A policeman's lot is not a happy one.
      ALL: Ah, when constabulary duty's to be done,
      to be done,
      A policeman's lot is not a happy one, happy one
    8. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The right of self-defenc(s)e (just being PC) is being eroded in most countries as an artifact of an encroaching police state. I've been saying this for decades: if citizens have no legal right to defend themselves, the government will next conclude that they have no need of anything that would help them defend themselves. Like guns. Is the government (any government) really so concerned that we might accidentally pop a burglar? Do they really care if we accidentally shoot ourselves in the {insert body part here}? Do they really care how many shooting victems show up on the 5 o'clock news? Sure, individual lawmakers may be, but government as a whole has other ideas.

      The unrelenting anti-gun bias is just a smokescreen, whose sole intent is to convince us to allow yet another part of the Constitution to effectively die. What they are afraid of is an armed, independent population that would cheerfully shoot any government official that oversteps his bounds. And why would they care about that? My guess: they're planning on overstepping their bounds.

      Oh I know, tinfoil hat stuff ... but I'll say this. After four+ years of George Bush at lot of folks that used to dismiss such views as paranoid are giving them a second look. A lot of anti-gun types make such a big deal about how the "right to bear arms" really isn't a right to bear arms, etc. etc., continually trying to reinterpret the Founders' intentions. But their intention was pellucidly clear: the right was given to us as a deterrent (and last-ditch defense) against an abusive government. It can happen here, folks, and a lot of people that fought so hard to eliminate guns from our society may one day wish they had one. A gun, that is.

      Let me add, just to eliminate any confusion, that I'm not a member of the NRA nor have I ever owned any firearm more powerful than a BB gun. But I want the right to acquire one if I feel sufficiently threatened (by anyone or anything.) That's what the Founding Fathers wanted, and so far as I'm aware there's been no Constitutional Amendment that says otherwise. The recent history of the United States, in particular, has been one of steadily increasing government power, going hand-in-hand with this simpleminded idea that if we could just ban all guns, life would be so much better. Unfortunately, that goes against the history of such things, and really places more trust in our government that it currently deserves.

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    9. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by mikewas · · Score: 1
      Depends on where in the US you are.

      I was in California a few months ago, on a business trip. The topic of discussion was a homeowner on trial for attempted murder. Somebody broke in and threathened the guy, said he was going to beat the crap out of him. The homeowner had a gun -- legally owned it. He pointed it at the intruder and, when the guy still advanced & threatened him, the homeowner shot the guy.

      The prosecuter said this was unecessary force. The intruder was unarmed and the homeowner shouldn't have used a gun.

      I guess he was supposed to sit there and let the bad guy beat the crap out of him!?

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    10. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Agreed - what are you going to do? Stand there and watch him/her (in the spirit of political correctness) unplug your TV and carry it out, or grab a large solid object and crack him/her across the side of the head then sit on him/her until the police arrive?

      I know which one I'd choose.

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    11. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Bertie · · Score: 1

      Well,. you ARE entitled to defend yourself. But think what'll happen if this new legislation permitting use of any force just short of shooting the burglar dead comes in. Burglars'll have to start packing heat as a matter of routine, just in case, and the vast majority of home owners won't be similarly equipped. We're going to end up with a lot of very sorry have-a-go heroes, who, lest we forget, have been egged on by a government desperate to appeal to knee-jerk hang-'em-and-flog-'em Daily Mailers. There's nothing wrong with the law as it stands. Hell, Tony "I'll do ANYTHING for a vote" Blair even said as much. But it doesn't stop him going against his own convictions once again to cling on to power just a bit longer.

      It's bad news.

    12. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike the US , where the rights of home owners using force against burglars are quite clear , in the UK this is a grey area.Home owners can use reasonable force only and that is decided by the courts.

      Speaking as a UK citizen, that's the way I want it. No law can adequately decide what is and isn't reasonable ahead of time, it's like deciding what is and isn't obscene. You have to make individual judgements for specific cases.

      And before anybody mentions it, no, any action when somebody is trespassing is not alright. Take the case of Tony Martin, who should be convicted for shooting teenagers in the back as they ran away from him. That's not self defence.

      As you try and highlight a difference with the US, may I remind you that it's illegal to set booby traps to catch thieves - they can sue you and win. You can't just do what the hell you like and say "but they were breaking the law" as a defence.

    13. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by MurphyZero · · Score: 1

      The burglar may not have had a gun at the time, but he had one within reach (the homeowner's) and was moving towards it and willing to use it. Therefore, the homeowner should have fired on the burglar. Until the burglar is stopped, the homeowner's life is in danger. The problem in California is too many Californians (and Mexicans as well). No one expects sanity out of anything from California anymore.

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    14. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well,. you ARE entitled to defend yourself. But think what'll happen if this new legislation permitting use of any force just short of shooting the burglar dead comes in. Burglars'll have to start packing heat as a matter of routine, just in case, and the vast majority of home owners won't be similarly equipped.


      Well, the thinking over here is that firstly, the police cannot be everywhere at once, and secondly, if somebody enters your house with you in it they've already expressed that they are willing to do you personal harm to get what they want. Right there they've forfeited the right to live, full stop (with the exception of running off or throwing themselves flat on the floor begging for mercy).

      AFAIK, most of the burglaries here in the US are committed when the occupants are away.. mainly because there is an increased chance of the owner packing ordnance, and secondly because the owner knows the layout of his or her house better.

      If you break into my house, it will be a near worst case scenario for you. My wife and I are both ex-Army and firearm literate. Upon hearing something suspect, the first thing we do is reach over and check to see if the other is still in bed. In the event this is the case, she's got the 12 gauge pump and I have a .45 auto.. we have no kids or pets. We will obviously have to detune a bit once we get a dog.
    15. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I've always been kind of curious about this. From what I understand, one of the chief justifications for individuals to own firearms is to protect themselves against gross abuse of power by the government or military.

      So... do Americans just not trust their government?

      I guess it's a bit naive to just trust figures of authority at their word, but if it's really a government by, for, and of the people, the theory is that they ought to be at least somewhat trustworthy, right?

      It just seems a little weird to me to have a population that feels the need to keep the government on their toes through threat of military revolution. Is it really the land of the free when everyone's afraid that the government will resort to military dictatorship?

    16. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well seeing as how trespassing isn't even a criminal offense, only a civil one killing would be very extreme.

    17. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while there is no such thing as shoot to injure rather than shoot to kill, the homeowner could have at least shot the guys feet, thus incapacitating him and avoiding any major organs at the same time. alternativly the guy could have backed away, left through a backdoor or something.

    18. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Impotent_Emperor · · Score: 1

      There seem's to be an odd belief that weapons like knives and blunt instruments just aren't dangerous. Well they are. A person can quickly cross ten or twenty feet and strike you with their weapon.

    19. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess he was supposed to sit there and let the bad guy beat the crap out of him!?

      No, no, no. He's supposed to shoot the crook dead, then stick himself in the arm with a steak knife from the kitchen and put it in the crook's hand. Don't you ever watch tv? "He had a knife, officer."

    20. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      if citizens have no legal right to defend themselves...

      How does not being able to kill somebody for taking your television consitute not being able to legally defend yourself?

      Is the government (any government) really so concerned that we might accidentally pop a burglar?

      It's the job of government to keep society running smoothly. Vigilante killings undermine that.

      The unrelenting anti-gun bias is just a smokescreen, whose sole intent is to convince us to allow yet another part of the Constitution to effectively die. What they are afraid of is an armed, independent population that would cheerfully shoot any government official that oversteps his bounds.

      Quite frankly, I'd be scared of somebody cheerfully shooting anybody for overstepping their bounds, and I've got nothing to do with the government. What kind of psychopath are you?

      But I want the right to acquire one if I feel sufficiently threatened (by anyone or anything.)

      What does a gun achieve that less-lethal weapons don't? Apart from the person you don't like ending up dead instead of injured? People wanting to defend themselves, I have no problem with. People wanting to kill others for some kind of revenge, I do have a problem with.

    21. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Caseyscrib · · Score: 1

      You might like this article.

    22. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by JerkBoB · · Score: 1

      the homeowner could have at least shot the guys feet, thus incapacitating him and avoiding any major organs at the same time

      LOL. Have you ever used a firearm? Specifically a pistol? I'm pretty good with a rifle, but haven't done much shooting with a pistol, although I've had some training. I know how to form a proper sight picture etc. etc. It's fairly difficult to hit something as small as feet/legs from even 3 yards away, and that's when you're not stressed and facing down a guy with a bat.

      There's a reason the police and military train people to shoot at the center of mass: You're more likely to hit it when you're stressed out and in fear for your life.

      alternativly the guy could have backed away, left through a backdoor or something.

      How do you know? Do you know that he hadn't been cornered, hadn't exhausted his possibilities? Regardless... If you break into someone's home and threaten them with a bat, they have every right to shoot you, and only in California would anyone try to argue differently.

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    23. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by muyuubyou · · Score: 1

      Dude I have to move to the US of A.

    24. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by ShawnDoc · · Score: 1
      The California legal system is based heavily on the British system. As part of my California History class I took at University, they had a case from the gold rush days. A group of men tried to ambush anther man and steal his gold. The man being robbed, pulled out a gun and shot the robbers. He was then convicted of murder. Remember, this was during the gold rush days. Why? Because in California, you are only allowed to defend yourself if you have no other option. In this case, the court determined the man could have fled (I think he was on horse and the ambushers on foot), even though he was ambushed by armed men.

      Same goes for getting in a fight. If you are assaulted (actually, battered is the correct term) in California, you can be brought up on charges for hitting back, unless you can convince the court you had no other choice.

      In Texas on the other hand, it is still legal to shoot a burglar on your property, even if they are in the process of fleeing the scene.

    25. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mm. +1 insightful, though I doubt anyone else will see it.

      Damn you slashdot, for never fucking giving me mod points, even though my karma is good, you bastards!

    26. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Stealth+Potato · · Score: 1
      It's not so much a matter of trust. Certainly, the ideal is that the governmnent is effectively "by, for, and of the people", but the Right to Bear Arms enshrined in the Constitution is an acknowledgement that even the best-laid plans can go awry. The idea is that, so long as the people are armed, they have a last-ditch backup plan if their government begins to actively work against them and their liberties.

      I think the grandparent poster misspoke when he said, "cheerfully shoot any government official that oversteps his bounds". Obviously, vigilante justice will help nothing; the only revolution that can succeed is a truly popular one, and the Right to Bear Arms exists to ensure that the people will have the means as well as the will, should that most dire of circumstances ever arise.

      Naturally, political change is much more pleasantly effected through the means of political activism and voting, and the system was designed so that these may be used instead of force. As the saying goes, "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order, starting now."

    27. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Darthmalt · · Score: 1

      Actually IIRC In texas it's illegal to shoot someone in the back

      Course if you hit thier leg and they turn around....

    28. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by sekicho · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's the same situation in the US; you can only use deadly force if it appears that your life is imminently threatened. There were a number of cases where people were using deadly traps (e.g. spring guns) to protect against burglars, and ended up responsible for the burglar's death. If a burglar comes into your house with a gun in hand, though, many jurisdictions will accept that as an excuse to shoot him.

      However, I don't see this being a case for assault in the US or in England. It wasn't intentional, first of all, and even if it was deemed intentional, it's still reasonable given that the burglar was trying to commit a dangerous felony.

      The law actually makes a lot more sense than you might think...

    29. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      Maybe the govt types know that in the future ;

      a) we will start running out of oil
      b) food will be 10x more xpensive
      c) millions will loose jobs
      d) massive resource shortages would happen

      People will go nuts when they have no food/water to feed their children so they will run into walmart with a gun to 'take' what they want, or else they just die at home.

      This is what the govt is scared off, but then again, the govt is full of normal plebs, so why are they part of the 'authority', are they blinded by their easy workload and good wages and steady jobs? or just are they plain dumb-asses with barely a free self determination?

      Personally, govts should have a max size, since too many people voting for one direction, mean a split in the people as the recent electios in many countries show you. Perhaps democracy isnt suited to large central govts, but smaller , less than one million people areas. So that people can move to their 'prefered' democracy, rather than 'vote' and have 50% of the people unhappy, why not delcare lots of small different regions, and people can 'vote' with their feet by moving to the different regions. In todays passport/immigration controlled world, its a lot harder, but if we divided countries into lots of smaller self controlled mini countries with freedom of movement that would be the ultimate freedom society. Dont like IP laws, move to city-xyz which doesnt have em.

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    30. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      It's called insurance. In other words, "trust, but verify". The way the Constitution was designed, we have multiple safeguards, including the right to keep and bear arms, to ensure that the government doesn't overstep its bounds. Do Americans distrust our government? Yes--that's the only way to keep it trustworthy.

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    31. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      What does a gun achieve that less-lethal weapons don't? Apart from the person you don't like ending up dead instead of injured?

      You have an overly optimistic view of less-lethal weapons. Life isn't like Star Trek, where you can set a phaser to stun and effectively, yet non-lethally, stop anyone in your way. In certain situations, less-lethal weapons are ineffective in terms of stopping a threat. In other situations, less-lethal weapons can kill just as effectively as a firearm. Similarly, firearms aren't always lethal, especially when the crook takes one look at it and runs before you need to make a shot at him. I've seen statistics that say in over 90% of cases, brandishing (but not firing) a gun is enough. (That said, it's a basic principle that one should never draw a gun without being ready to fire.) All in all, a gun achieves a LOT that less-lethal weapons don't. Criminals aren't deterred by the fear that they might be hit with mace or a taser. Criminals ARE deterred by the fear of taking a shotgun shell in their chest.

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    32. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Perhaps democracy isnt suited to large central govts, but smaller , less than one million people areas. So that people can move to their 'prefered' democracy, rather than 'vote' and have 50% of the people unhappy, why not delcare lots of small different regions, and people can 'vote' with their feet by moving to the different regions. In todays passport/immigration controlled world, its a lot harder, but if we divided countries into lots of smaller self controlled mini countries with freedom of movement that would be the ultimate freedom society. Dont like IP laws, move to city-xyz which doesnt have em.

      Hmm... so you'd propose having a bunch of small states which have substantially variant laws, perhaps forming a federation so that they can help defend each other, respect others' legal documents and so forth?

      Sounds like a great idea, as long as you didn't let that federal government start running the show and passing laws about things that ought to be under the control of the states themselves. Why, if that happened, you'd end up with one big government rather than a bunch of small, loosely affiliated ones -- exactly the kind of situation you're proposing to avoid! Ought to set up a bunch of checks and balances to prevent that, and limit the federal government to a strictly enumerated set of powers...

    33. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      It's a rare occasion indeed that Anonymous Coward gets mod points. Keep on trying, man!

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    34. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Danse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How does not being able to kill somebody for taking your television consitute not being able to legally defend yourself?

      Maybe on your planet nobody ever does any harm to the occupants of the home they break into, but that's not what it's like here on earth. Between burglars who would rather kill you than get caught, angry ex-spouses/lovers, and the average rapist, there are plenty of situations in which you would want to have an effective means of self-defense. Non-lethal weapons just don't cut it. They are not as reliable or effective as guns, and they don't have the simple ability to scare the hell out of someone so that you don't have to actually use them. Guns do that.

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    35. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      There's a legal principle (although apparently not anymore in California or Britain) that says your home is your castle. You are never legally expected to retreat from your own home.

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    36. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please pardon my anti-gun rant:

      The unrelenting anti-gun bias is just a smokescreen, whose sole intent is to convince us to allow yet another part of the Constitution to effectively die.

      Except for the Constitution was written quite a while ago. The second amendment was written at a time where there was no such thing as a centralized police force, no FBI (don't know about sheriffs... maybe law enforcement was a job for the soldiers). If you were out in the sticks, you NEEDED to have a gun, or you and your family could be shot, robbed, raped, etc. just by anybody. My point here: you do not necessarily need the second constitution right anymore, unless you plan to go and explicitly use guns on somebody.

      Today guns just make crime in the US more hardcore. For instance, if guns were not so readily available to criminals you would really not need one either, without a gun you will not be in a disadvantageous position when they rob your house. This may sound very idealistic but that is the reality in many other countries. Somebody else had mentioned before on slashdot that in the UK if you have a gun you are a pretty hard core criminal. Same goes for my country (Bulgaria), although things have been going worse for the past years. (Sigh)...

      Yes, I have heard all about the point that guns are needed because you keep the government and the army in check. That may be partially true. However, there are plenty of other democracies out there and they seem to function without this explicit need.

    37. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      Hm, in Texas, at least, I believe it's perfectly legal to shoot trespassers, though preferable if you warn them first. The only recent court case I recall involving a man shooting a burglar was not, in fact, over the fact that he had shot someone: he was penalized for the fact that he set up a mantrap involving a gun, some string, and a doorknob.

      So there you have it: shoot burglars: a-ok. Set up an automatic, deadly mechanism that could potentially kill a policeman or firefighter with a good reason to be there, and you're going to jail. And, uh, also an idiot.

      Of course, I can't be entirely certain the laws are still set up this way, but I'd think someone would have brought it up had they changed.

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    38. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by MartinB · · Score: 1
      nor have I ever owned any firearm more powerful than a BB gun. But I want the right to acquire one if I feel sufficiently threatened (by anyone or anything.) That's what the Founding Fathers wanted, and so far as I'm aware there's been no Constitutional Amendment that says otherwise.

      errrmmmm nope. Go read the 2nd amendment again. And this time, start at the beginning of it:

      A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

      The logic goes as follows:

      • Premise 1: The security of a free state needs a well-regulated militia
      • Premise 2: A well-regulated militia needs the people to keep and bear arms
      • Conclusion: The people need to keep and bear arms to form a well-regulated militia and therefore ensure the security of a free state

      So if you feel the security of the free state (NB not you personally) is sufficiently threatened that you feel a need to form a well-ordered militia, then go ahead and keep and bear your arms. But as the nation as a whole - other than a very small minority - feels the security of the free state is quite well enough protected by the regular military, the military reserve, the national guard and various police forces, the need to form militias seems somewhat reduced.

      Further, I'm wondering where you see the interpretation that such a militia is to defend the security of the free state against its government. And if it is, what chance does your militia stand against the regular military, military reserve, national guard and various police forces..?

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    39. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by MartinB · · Score: 1
      In our small country , England , the Govt would charge the old lady , for scaring the burglar.

      Nope. Only for shooting him in the back and killing him.

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    40. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by SenorChuck · · Score: 1

      Yes, because if guns are not to readily available, then only the very determined criminals will obtain guns. You will not have a gun with which to defend yourself in this event.

      I personally do not own any guns, yet I believe it is folly to put down the second ammendment as antiquated, outmoded, obselete, etc. What do I do if my government falls into dissolution and thugs roam about looting and destroying at will? I understand your want for nonviolent solutions to violent problems, but is it a wise idea to take things away from everyone just because not everyone needs it? I realize my example could use some work, but as other posters have said - the second ammendment is to help us to guarantee that we are able to preserve our inalienable rights by force if necessary.

      The motto of the state that I live in says it well:
      "Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Extra points if you can name the state.

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    41. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by mikewas · · Score: 1
      My wife is an ex-cop. The training is to exhaust all possibilities before you shoot, but once the decision is made you aim for the center of mass an empty the weapon.

      Anything else and you put yourself and innocent bystanders in danger.

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    42. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by retro128 · · Score: 1

      And if it is, what chance does your militia stand against the regular military, military reserve, national guard and various police forces..?

      Ask the Iraqi insurgents. Or the Viet Cong.

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    43. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if it is, what chance does your militia stand against the regular military, military reserve, national guard and various police forces..?

      The regular military and police are mainly staffed by volunteers and well-meaning professionals. If they find themselves ordered to massacre citizens and use tank fire on residential houses, many of them will join the revolt.

      Ordinary citizens with guns have more political power than military power. They have far less political power if they can be thrown into prison camps by the hundreds without anyone dying. If the government has to resort to violence to do something, they will think twice.

      America seems safe and stable today, but that can change more easily than people think. We had a civil war only 150 years ago, and with advancing medical technology, a baby born today could very well live to die in a civil war 100 years from now.

    44. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Maxite · · Score: 1

      "Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." That is Iowa's motto, which is my home state.

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    45. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you gently punched someone and made them bleed?

      ok herc!

    46. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by stanmann · · Score: 1

      By definition, Americans do not trust government. It's in the Constitution, Declaration of Independance, and Federalist Papers. Nation of rebels, and all that.

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    47. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by stanmann · · Score: 1

      How do I know he wants my tv and not my wife or kids? There are any number of freaks and weirdos out there and I'm not shooting stabbing or beating him to death for taking my tv, I'm killing him for home invasion. BTW, if he breaks in grabs the tv and leaves, I'll never know he's here... since the TV is in the front of the house and the bedrooms are in the back.. and unless I shout, I can't talk to my wife across the house.

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    48. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Aggrazel · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      I've never been to the UK so I have no idea what things are like over there. But I used to live in a place here in the US where the nearest police station was half an hour away, and my nearest neighbor was a half mile down the road. If we left the house we didn't bother to lock the door because if someone wanted to rob the house while we were gone, we at least didn't want them to break the door.

      Live out somewhere that remote and tell me I should call the police and let them sort it out if a guy breaks in and tries to tie us up and do god knows what.

      Incidently, nothing makes a criminal evacuate his bowels faster than the sound of pumping a 12 guage.

      Never had to shoot anyone though, thank goodness. Had to shoot animals though, but I suppose the anti-gun crowd thinks I should just try to "reason" with a rabid Raccoon thats trying to attack my dog.

    49. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by unixdad · · Score: 1

      But as the nation as a whole - other than a very small minority - feels the security of the free state is quite well enough protected by the regular military, the military reserve, the national guard and various police forces, the need to form militias seems somewhat reduced.

      Even if your conclusion is correct, the right is still protected by the Constitution so that in the case that more people become convinced that the security of the free state is in jeapardy then they can do something about it.

      Further, I'm wondering where you see the interpretation that such a militia is to defend the security of the free state against its government.

      From Federalist Paper #46: [Note: The supposition referred to is (roughly paraphrased) that bad leaders are elected for long enough to allow for a military state, that said military power would be used to hold down the people.] Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.

      Although the Federalist Papers do not carry any weight of law, they were written to argue for the formation of the Federal gov't, and to address the concerns that folks had about the formation of the Federal Government.

      There are many writings from that period of time that treat gun ownership as a god-given right. The rights mentioned in the Constitution are not granted by the Constitition, they are protected by that document.

    50. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by nine-times · · Score: 1
      Is it really the land of the free when everyone's afraid that the government will resort to military dictatorship?

      The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

    51. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by nine-times · · Score: 1
      Except for the Constitution was written quite a while ago. The second amendment was written at a time where there was no such thing as a centralized police force, no FBI

      Except the second amendment was not written to protect your right to defend yourself against criminals. That just wasn't the intention. It was specifically meant to protect you from the government. Whenever I hear someone complaining about the second amendment, it seems they always take it for granted that the ammendment was meant to protect either your right to hunt or your right to protect yourself from criminals. It just completely misses the point.

      The second amendment guarantees the right to bear arms explicitly for the purpose of forming a militia. Read: the right to own military-grade weaponry. Read the bill of rights again-- the entire bill of rights was intended to guarantee the people's right to revolt.

      Yes, I have heard all about the point that guns are needed because you keep the government and the army in check. That may be partially true. However, there are plenty of other democracies out there and they seem to function without this explicit need.

      Uhh... yeah, sure, that can happen. But how many non-democratic and oppressive governments guarantee their citizens the right to bear arms? Well, how many do you know of?

      When you're living in a country with a powerful military and the citizens have no ability to defend themselves with force, the freedom of the citizens in that country is determined by the benevolence of those in charge. In any given case, that might happen. The ruling class may very well be benevolent. Not in Hitler's case, though. (just an example) However, it's very hard to imagine an oppressive government being sustained for long with an armed citizenry (meaning, *everyone* has a right to bear military-grade weapons).

    52. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm, in Texas, at least, I believe it's perfectly legal to shoot trespassers, though preferable if you warn them first.

      The warning is to make sure he's facing you. Otherwise, you might shoot him in the back, which wouldn't look good if a relative brought a wrongful death suit.

      Personally, I prefer to just make stealing things difficult. Alarms, dogs, bolting valuables to the slab, etc. Maybe I'd still be sued for emotional suffering if he couldn't pawn off my TV for his fix, though, knowing the current state of the legal system.

    53. Re:Bad luck for the burglar by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      It's the job of government to keep society running smoothly. Vigilante killings undermine that.

      Actually, no. Cops are not legally obligated to protect you. They know that safety is impossible to guarantee. So what can you do? Get a gun, so that if the cops don't show, you are still okay.

      Additionally, I'd say that vigilante killings make a society substantially easier to run smoothly. Why make the government's job harder than it has to be? We know that they aren't as competent as we'd like. So it makes sense to...help out the government a bit.

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  17. GTA SA wasn't even out it takes time to sentence.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sheesh get it right will ya.

    ungeeky

  18. I got robbed and beat up.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was playing DDR when the burglar broke in, He got pissed, beat me and shot me!

    1. Re:I got robbed and beat up.... by Atragon · · Score: 1
      I was playing DDR when the burglar broke in, He got pissed, beat me and shot me!

      Were you his little butterfly?

    2. Re:I got robbed and beat up.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Richard Simmons reads Slashdot ... who knew?

    3. Re:I got robbed and beat up.... by edwazere · · Score: 1

      Pissed in the British sense of the word, or the USA sense of the word?

      I can't understand it using the British sense so I guess you mean pissed as in angry?

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  19. Since when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did Grandparents own machines capable of playing GTA? Shouldn't they all have 286's with dialup?

    This proves my theory that life isn't fair...

    1. Re:Since when... by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Especially as seeing she's a poor old lady.

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    2. Re:Since when... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      She's been ambushing burglars with video games for years, then taking all their money. This time the grandchildren called the real cops. A clever scheme and she would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

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  20. What they don't tell you... by Trillan · · Score: 1

    ...is the burglar got away because the cop that was chasing him ducked when he heard "eat this, pig!"

    (Sounds like an urban legend to me...)

    1. Re:What they don't tell you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't you mean "burglarizer"?! Way to murderize that language boy.

  21. And what if by Timesprout · · Score: 1

    He had been carrying a gun, panicked and started shooting.

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    1. Re:And what if by rebeka+thomas · · Score: 1, Interesting

      > He had been carrying a gun, panicked and started shooting.

      Then we'd be in a parallel universe where that happened. It didn't.

      What if Linux caused cancer? What if bathing in magma cured acne? What if Steve Jobs wins the next world series?

      We don't have to think about these things as they're not happening in the real world.

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    2. Re:And what if by beebware · · Score: 1

      >> What if bathing in magma cured acne? Bathing in red hot liquid magma does cure acne. I have not seen a single person with acne after they have undergone this radical treatment.

    3. Re:And what if by alsta · · Score: 1

      Well, it's a Good Thing that the home owner was disarmed and helpless at least. That way she could have reasoned with the criminals and called on the authorities to resolve the situation.

      After all, aren't those thieves just victims of society? Clearly they need that old woman's belongings much more than she does or they wouldn't have attempted to steal them, presuming that is what 'burglarize' meant in this case.

      I realise that the story didn't say either way about her gun ownership, or lack thereof. This is rather a hypothetic rant if you will.

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    4. Re:And what if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every amreican is duty bound to be trained in martial arts, weapons and firewarms. Every american MUST conceal carry and MUST have home defense firearms.

  22. The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by EnglishTim · · Score: 2, Informative

    The verb is 'burgle', and one who burgles is a burglar.

    You don't call a burglar a 'burglarizer', do you?

    Cripes!

    1. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't call a burglar a 'burglarizer', do you?

      I do now.

    2. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by dustman · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary& va=burglarize&x=0&y=0

      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=burglariz e

      Looks like burlgarize is OK to me. In fact, for a couple of the dictionaries, the definition of "burgle" is just: "see burglarize".

    3. Re: The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > You don't call a burglar a 'burglarizer', do you?

      Yeah, and they almost got burglarizered.

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    4. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by jabuzz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is just a case of Americans deciding that everything is "ized" because it sounds trendy. It is what my Grandma would refer to as "Estuary English". You won't find such abuses of the English language in the OED.

    5. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by CrackerJack9 · · Score: 1

      The fact that this got modded up makes me want to go back to reading The Register or staring blankly at the TV. You don't call a burglar a 'burglarizer'
      You're right, because I don't makes nouns into nouns again. It's that simple.

      Burgle (v)
      Burglar (n)-one who burgles
      Burglarize (v)-to burgle
      Burglarizer -- Yeah, I guess it would have to be a noun, but I wouldn't say they 'burglarred' us either (using your logic) Or he was going to burglar us. This is retarded. I'm going home.

    6. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by dustman · · Score: 1

      You won't find such abuses of the English language in the OED.

      You mean, you wouldn't find this page?

      It does say, "North American term for burgle", but still... It *is* in the OED.

    7. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the article was referring to a group of burglars who go around press-ganging people into joining them. They had obviously picked the old lady in question as being an excellent potential burglar and wanted to 'burglarise' her, i.e. convert her into a burglar.

    8. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Languages change with time, get over it. Or move to France, and read your courriel.

    9. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1


      I really don't care.

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    10. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      You know what we call someone who whines about differences between dialects of a language? "Pedantic shithead."

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    11. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by cbrew · · Score: 1

      The burglars were Bulgarian, of course. "Burglarize" is a
      useful compromise between "burgle" and "Bulgarianize".

    12. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I suppose the Brits would have won the Revolutionary War, if the battles had been decided by grammtical use of the English language.

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    13. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by mabinogi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, whilst some changes in American English were in fact deliberate (and mostly due to Webster and his peers), quite a lot of the differences are simply due to changes to the language that happened in the UK not being propogated to the USA.

      I would guess that this is one of the latter cases - as it appears that burglarize is an old word that has been obsoleted by burgle in the UK (and Australia and New Zealand).

      Quite a lot of how Americans speak is not an "abuse" of English - it's just a result of the separation in a time when the fastest way to communicate between the two countries was a few weeks on a boat.

      I suggest you do some reading on the topic - I'd recommend "The Adventure of English" by Melvyn Bragg, and "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson.

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    14. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by dasunt · · Score: 1

      This is just a case of Americans deciding that everything is "ized" because it sounds trendy. It is what my Grandma would refer to as "Estuary English". You won't find such abuses of the English language in the OED.

      You do realize that parts of American English is closer to 17th century English than British English, right?

      American English existed in a backwater where it didn't pick up some of the changes in British English. American English tended to be more conservative, and kept several archaic words and pronunciations that British English lost. The parts of the US that had the closest contact with Britain ended up picking some of the linguistic changes from Britain (New England/South) while the westernmost frontier tended to keep the more archaic usages.

      I don't know how you can discredit American English. From what I can tell you are defining proper English as British English due to geography and history (in which case, I'll argue that proper English ist Deutsch).

    15. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by bloggins02 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ahh yes. The infamous "Proof by dictionary links." A much underused technique IMO.

    16. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Cellshade · · Score: 1

      Really? Do you think that because you looked, or because you're just making stuff up?

      From the Oxford English Dictionary, Online Edition (which you can probably access for free through your university if you're a student):

      burglarize, v.

      trans. To rob burglariously; to break into by violence for the purpose of theft. Also intr.

      Hence 'burglarizing vbl. n.

    17. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be worse:

      A buldozing bulgarian bugalizer.

    18. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by hambonewilkins · · Score: 1

      Brillant. Simply brillant. Mod it to infinity.

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    19. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I'm posting AC so I don't suppose anyone will read this, but... =)

      Quite right - it's the joy of linguistic change.

      The noun "burglar" came first. The Americans use the productive suffix "-ize" to turn it into a verb. The Brits, on the other hand, got the back-formation by analogy to buglar, etc. - a "buglar" is someone who "bugles", so a burglar is someone who "burgles".

      Technically the yanks are more correct (Though I much prefer "burgle" ;-)

      --OH. (in Oz)

    20. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by prockcore · · Score: 1

      This is just a case of Americans deciding that everything is "ized" because it sounds trendy.

      As opposed to the british who change american words just to be difficult.

      The automobile was invented in America, it has a trunk and a hood.. it does not have a boot nor a bonnet.

      Same goes for trucks.

    21. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      I admit that I forgot that the OED has taken to flagging up such USA ambominations of the language. However they are flagged up as American, as are other such ambominations such as color, sulfur etc.

      However burglerize is a 20th century invention and not some long forgotten old/middle English word.

    22. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

      It may be correct but using it instead of burgle still makes you sound thick

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    23. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by EnglishTim · · Score: 1

      American invention my ass.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile

      The first automobile was invented by a Frenchman in the late 18th century, and was steam powered. The UK lead car development for a while, during which time much progress was made on thing like brakes, multi-speed transmission and the like. The first automobiles to run on internal combustion engines were invented pretty much simultaneously in 1866 by a German and an Amercian.

    24. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      In Googlefight, burgle wins

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    25. Re:The word is 'burgle', you illiterate moron! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burglarizationarian, actually.

  23. "Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you serious? Please try to understand just how much "burglarize" sounds like a bad Bush-ism. That's hilarious.

    1. Re:"Burglarize" by Prophetic_Truth · · Score: 1

      go ahead, make fun of the way americans speak, but just know we will always snicker when you tell us you're going to go "smoke a fag"!

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    2. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's ok, whenever you boys go "fill your car with gas", we'll always imagine you farting away in your ve-hic-les :-)

    3. Re:"Burglarize" by SlimFastForYou · · Score: 5, Funny

      Somewhere in America:

      Operator: "Hello, this is 911, how may I help you?"
      Citizen: "HELP! I've been bloody burgled by two tall guys with fags and they are making off!"
      Operator: "Is this some kind of a sick joke? Call when you have an emergency. "

    4. Re:"Burglarize" by pldms · · Score: 1, Funny

      Operator: "Hello, this is 911, how may I help you?"

      Unlikely -- we'd dial 999. Take that smart guy :-)

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    5. Re:"Burglarize" by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but we don't consider someone dressed in pants, a vest and suspenders to be suitably dressed in our society;)

    6. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Unlikely -- we'd dial 999. Take that smart guy :-)

      Quoth the grandparent post:

      Somewhere in America:

    7. Re:"Burglarize" by dsanfte · · Score: 4, Informative

      Using old english suffixes on your verbs doesn't make you one whit smarter when you have zero english comprehension skills.

      The grandparent was referring to the fact that the Brit would have dialed 999 and not reached emergency services at all.

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    8. Re:"Burglarize" by mikael_j · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Your (and the post you were referring to) both assume that someone from UKia wouldn't know that the emergency number in USia is 911, something that everyone except perhaps some loner living in a cave in the himalayas knows (thanks to US TV/movies).

      /Mikael

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    9. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1, Troll

      Someone who burgles is a burglar. It's that simple, just like someone who warbles is a warbler. Distorting the verb form to "burglarize" is silly: you wouldn't say someone who's a warbler warblerizes, would you?

      I wonder how long it'll be until you start calling someone who "burglarizes" a "burglarizer"?

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    10. Re:"Burglarize" by mr_snarf · · Score: 1

      Emergency number here in Australia is 000 Seems to make a lot more sense to me, maybe theres some technical reason for not using the simplest combination? Or maybe a different reason?

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    11. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (...they're right. Americans really are egocentric.)

    12. Re:"Burglarize" by moeffju · · Score: 1

      Quoth -vs- quote is not a matter of 'verb suffix'. They come from completely different word stems.

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    13. Re:"Burglarize" by r2q2 · · Score: 1

      The reason for not using the simplest combination is probably so the combination isn't easy to dial accidently. 911 is much harder to mistakenly dial than 000 or 999.

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    14. Re:"Burglarize" by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      This may be the funniest thing I'v ever read on slashdot. Then again I just got up and my judgment is impaired.

    15. Re:"Burglarize" by topham · · Score: 4, Informative

      911 was chosen as it is 9 pulses followed by 2 (seperate) pulses.

      000 would be 30 pulses (with a break between sets of 10).

      911 was originally implemented when the majority, if not everyone, still had pulse dial.

      It was a combination which was thought to prevent misdials.

    16. Re:"Burglarize" by danila · · Score: 1

      And then "You've been burglarizored!"

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    17. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      easier to accidentally dial 000 then 911..

    18. Re:"Burglarize" by mr_snarf · · Score: 1

      Ahhh. That makes sense.

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    19. Re:"Burglarize" by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Apparently it was a serious technical challenge back when 999 was introduced (in the 1930's I think). 0 would have connected to the operator before the other 2 digits were dialed. They probably could have used 111 instead. Other three digit codes were used as the first three digits of other numbers.

      Apparently the choice of 000 for Australia has caused problems in the past. Some automatic systems default to dialling 000000. I've also known someone who was upset to find that some modem software defaulted to 999888777, thus connecting him to the emergency services when he ran it.

    20. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure about that?

      Operator: "Hello, this is 911, how may I help you?"

    21. Re:"Burglarize" by mattdm · · Score: 1

      Someone who burgles is a burglar. It's that simple, just like someone who warbles is a warbler. Distorting the verb form to "burglarize" is silly: you wouldn't say someone who's a warbler warblerizes, would you?

      Spoken like someone just makin' stuff up. In fact, it's a totally different situation, as you'd find if you'd consult a dictionary. While "warbler" is indeed formed in the way you guess, "burgle" is actually a back-formation from burglar.

      Fine, construct new words from old however you want, but actually, "burglarize" is the logical, standard, and normal way to turn nouns into verbs in English.

    22. Re:"Burglarize" by mutterer · · Score: 1

      Not only are quoth and quote completely different words, but you clearly don't even know what old english is. I'll give you a hint: old english is old enough that even Shakespeare wouldn't have been able to understand it.

    23. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      maybe theres some technical reason for not using the simplest combination?

      Yes. Old US switching equipment snooped digits according to a numbering plan (npa-nxx-xxxx) to determine how to route the call even as it was dialed, several 'n11' services had been set up already by Bell and it was easy to stick with that scheme for special services.

    24. Re:"Burglarize" by jeremyp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Surely somebody who burgles is a burglator.

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    25. Re:"Burglarize" by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      They could have just used 711 ;-)

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    26. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that using "UKia" and "USia" makes you look like an idiot, don't you?

    27. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And a plagiarist plages, right?

    28. Re:"Burglarize" by ozbird · · Score: 1

      911 was originally implemented when the majority, if not everyone, still had pulse dial.

      So was 000 (also used in Australia), for precisely the same reason - difficult to accidentally call due to misdialling or a fault in the phone/line/exchange. (New Zealand uses 111 - their pulse system is backwards compared to Australia and the US: ten pulses for 0, nine for 1, eight for 2 etc.)

    29. Re:"Burglarize" by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      Is pulse dialing in the US different to pulse dialing in the rest of the world? If I read what you've said correctly, US pulse phones started at 0 then counted backwards from 9 to 1, while the phones we had started at 0 then counted upwards from 1 to 9 (meaning 9 only used 1 pulse, while 1 used 9 pulses). You can test this on a tone-dialling phone by tapping the hang-up lever to generate the pulses (the rule in this country is that you always subtract the digit you want to dial from 10).

      Now that I think about it, this made the English 999 a hell of a lot faster to dial in an emergency, whereas my country's 111 is quite a bit slower. One thing you don't want when someone is trying to smash their way into your house is to stand around waiting for that damn dial to rotate back all the way around... not that it applies these days.

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    30. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that stupid logic, people are murdererized...

    31. Re:"Burglarize" by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      Oops, my mistake, apparently NZ is the only place that has their dial in this order. I thought our original phone said it was made in the UK, so I assumed their dials were the same. I guess it's possible the phone was made in the UK, but to get a telepermit they had to have the plastic dial replaced (?)

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    32. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that stupid logic, people are murdererized...

      Not at all. And he explained why.

      Learn to read.

    33. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      How much do you want to bet that "burgle" has been around in usage a lot longer than "burglarize"? So who exactly is "construct[ing] new words from old however [they] want" here?

      And, no matter what you're smoking, verb formations are commonly shorter, not longer, than noun ones: a builder builds, a seller sells, a buyer buys, a helper helps, a writer writes, an editor edits, a publisher publishes, a reader reads, etc, etc.

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    34. Re:"Burglarize" by mattdm · · Score: 1

      How much do you want to bet that "burgle" has been around in usage a lot longer than "burglarize"?

      How much money do you have that you want to lose? I'll bet that much -- it wouldn't be nice to bet more, since, as I thought I implied, I *did* look this up. OED2's first reference to "burglarize" is from 1871, and "burgle" the next year. Plus, "burgle" gets the note "of very recent appearance".

      What's more, "burgle" is noted as "orig. colloq. or humorous" -- that is, it's likely the people who first said it realized that they were making a silly, non-standard construction for humorous effect. Like I said, I don't care if this later became acceptible normal language -- there's plenty of interesting ways for new words to be created.

      Also, all of your "verbs are shorter" examples are irrelevant, by the way: those are simple cases where the noun is formed in the standard way from the verb. Going the other direction *also* works by adding a suffix ("ize", instead of "er/or"). Better examples (keeping with the criminal theme): "vandalize" is longer than "vandal", "brutalize" is longer than "brutal", and "terrorize" is longer than "terror".

    35. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      From (US-centric) Dictionary.com's entry for burglar: [Anglo-Norman burgler(alteration of burgesur, probably from Old French burg, borough), Medieval Latin burgulator(alteration of burgator, from burgare, to commit burglary in, from Late Latin burgus, fortified town) both of Germanic origin. See bhergh-2 in Indo-European Roots.]

      In other words, "burgle" is not a back-formation of burglar, as your originally wrote, but is derived from the Medieval Latin verb "burgare". So that blows your original argument out of the water, doesn't it? Now, if you think that "burgare" became "burglarize" before it became "burgle" then, boy, do I have a bridge for you.

      Remember, this is a word of Medieval European derivation, yet no where in Britain, or most of its former colonies, is the word "burglarize" in use. So what seems more likely to you: that all those former colonies (including some that became nations in their own right over two hundred years ago, such as Australia) at some stage all dropped "burglarize" in favour of "burgle", or that "burglarize" is exclusively a construct of American English?

      Ever notice that "burglarize" has that "-ize" suffix that's almost exclusively associated with modern day American English? (In Britain and elsewhere, "-ise" is used almost everytime Americans use "-ize".

      And have you checked the usage of these words online? Googling for "burglarise": less than 1,000 entries total (most obscure dictionary references). "Burglarize": 21,500 entries. "Burgle": 24,900 entries. Even on the Internet, which is still heavily US-centric in terms of content, that's a clear indication that "burgle" gets the nod over "burglarize".

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    36. Re:"Burglarize" by StingRay02 · · Score: 1
      From (US-centric) Dictionary.com's entry for burglar..... from burgare, to commit burglary in

      In other words, "burgle" is not a back-formation of burglar, as your originally wrote, but is derived from the Medieval Latin verb "burgare".

      No, burgle is not a derivation of burgare, burglar is. Your quote states that. Consequently, if burgare became burglar then burglarize is just as likely to have developed before hand than burgle.

      Now, if you look up burgle on Dictionary.com, you will find this:

      burgle(bûrgl) tr. & intr.v. burgled, burgling, burgles To burglarize. [Back-formation from burglar.]
      It's the first definition, from the American Heritage Dictionary. The second definition, from Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, does not even give a definition, it just references to burglarize.

      Also, your -ize vs. -ise has about as much relevance to the conversation as whether color should have a u in it.

    37. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      1. From the verb "burgare" to the verbs "burgle" or "burglarize": which looks like the simpler, more natural progression and which looks like the bigger, more forced leap?

      2. All the dictionaries you're talking about are American publications with an overwhelming emphasis on American English, so of course they're US-centric in providing definitions. (If I wanted to be patronising then I'd add a "duh" here, but I'm not, I'm trying to have a serious conversation about etymology and the development of language.)

      3. Of course the "-ize" vs "-ise" debate is relevant here. If as you say "burgle" is some sort of bad bastardisation of the language, then you'd expect to see "burglarise" commonly used in Britain, Australasia, South Africa, Canada, India, and elsewhere in the English speaking world, because where Americans use "-ize" the rest of the world uses "-ise" almost without exception.

      Earlier you mentioned "vandalize", "brutalize" and "terrorize": to everyone but Americans, those words should be spelt "vandalise", "brutalise" and "terrorise", so if "burglarize" is so right and "burgle" is so wrong you'd expect to see "burglarise" in common usage too, but you don't.

      QED.

      And, yes, I did just write "spelt",: it's like "slept", "dreamt", "felt", etc; only Americans insist on using "spelled".

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    38. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      Apologies, it was mattdm (1931) who mentioned "vandalize", etc but the point I made is still just as valid.

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    39. Re:"Burglarize" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this "read", you speak of. I don't understand.

    40. Re:"Burglarize" by mattdm · · Score: 1

      I don't care if you say "burgle". That's clearly the common British word, even if it was originally a joke -- ironically pretty much the same joke as the Three Stooge's "murderize" (except in the other direction).

      But it's silly to insist that the clearly-correct "burglarize" is somehow inferior. It's spelled in the American way because Americans started using it at about the same time Britons started using "burgle", which apparently became common enough quickly enough that "burglarise" never really got used.

      As for how we "insist" on spelling things: well, that's what our varient of the language does. Surprise! Not everything is the same everywhere in the world! You sound somehow bitter about that.

      And you can write "QED" all you like, but it still sounds pretty much like your first guess (probably something you'd never thought about) was wrong and yet instead of admitting that and learning something about the language, you have to keep arguing. (Insisting that "burgle" comes naturally from a word with no Ls in it? Claiming that the Oxford English Dictionary is an American publication?) Which is to be expected on Slashdot, but it's still kinda, I dunno, pick your preferred patronizing term.

    41. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      1. Uh, if "burglar" comes from a word with no Ls in it then why can't "burgle" come from the very same word, which like "burgle" happens to be a verb too?

      2. I never said the OED was an American publication (although I bet they do print US versions), I said that the other dictionaries referenced in the parent post to the one that you're referring to were American publications.

      3. You think it's a coincidence that Britain, Australasia, South Africa, Canada, India and you name it uses "burgle" whereas only the US uses "burglarize"? Granted, South Africa and India were part of the British Empire at the end of the 19th century but Australia's been an independent country for over 200 years and Canada gained independence in 1867.

      If "burgle" is some British bastardisation of the English language, then why is it used in those countries too? Occam's Razor would suggest that "burgle" didn't suddenly crop up in the lexicon of three different subsets of English simultaneously, but you're free to argue that it did if you want to.

      Seriously, would you argue that a bugler "buglerizes"? Wouldn't that seem silly to you? Because that's how ridiculous "burglarize" looks from here.

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    42. Re:"Burglarize" by mattdm · · Score: 1

      My god, you're still arguing? Look, go find a copy of the OED, look in the front and find the contact information, and send all of your arguments to them and see if they'll agree to change what they say. Mention Occam's Razor to them too -- I'm sure they'll be very impressed.

    43. Re:"Burglarize" by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      (Funny but it's not me who's blowing someone off with pithy comments or one-liners here, is it?)

      Arguing? Well, if you want to call trying to engage in a serious conversation about etymology arguing, well, then I guess I am arguing. But, if nothing else, doesn't what I've said suggest to you that "burgle" has been around for longer than "burglarize"? Or, given that it's not used anywhere else in the world, that "burglarize" is an Americanism?

      And, by the way, the one print dictionary that I have access to here (published by Collins) has "burgle" but no mention of "burglarize", even though it does contain alternative American spellings to words such as "colour", "centre", "aluminium", etc, which is strange if "burgle" is totally unused in the US. I don't claim that as empirical proof of anything but, again, it does seem to suggest that burgle is more universal than perhaps you might think.

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    44. Re:"Burglarize" by mattdm · · Score: 1

      Sure, "burgle" happens to be the normal British word, and "burglarize" the normal American word. The American one happens to have been formed in the standard way, and the British in a humorous one. It doesn't surprise me if you can find examples of either word in either country. However, many Americans would still think of "burgle" as slightly silly -- with justification given its origin. On the other hand, the rampant disparagment in this thread of the completely standard formation of the American word is just unfounded snobbery.

      Your Collins dictionary might simply not bother to list "burglarize", as many dictionaries don't list all possible standard constructions from every word.

      As I said in an earlier message, OED cites both words as appearing at approximately the same time, both relatively recently (around 1870), and clearly marks "burgle" as "orig. colloq. or humorous".

    45. Re:"Burglarize" by StingRay02 · · Score: 1
      1. Burgare > Burglar > Burglarize definitely seems the simpler progression to me. Adding -ize or -ise to a word is a common way of creating new verbs, whether humorous or otherwise. To create burgle from burglar, you're having to rework the word into a form that does not sound natural, considering it's origins. Since "burglar" came first, the easiest way to connect the noun to the verb is to add a common suffix to the word which can be easily recognized, not to remove letters, changing the entire word.

      2. I only used the resource that you originally quoted, namely Dictionary.com. You ignored the reference to the OED, and instead went with a website's offerings instead, and so, to ensure fair comparisons, I used your same source. Unlike you, I also included the actual dictionary's names for further reference points, as well. If you don't like that Dictionary.com is American-centric, then 1) point to another web reference, and I'll use that instead, and 2) don't complain when your original reference site turns against you.

      3. As already mentioned to you, but ignored, the OED has burgle appearing the year after burglarize, in 1872. Whatever the reason for burgle's rise to popularity, be it anti-American sentiment at the time or whatever, it's had more than 130 years to take hold as common usage. Consequently, no, -ise vs. -ize has no place in this argument, except as an attempt to divert from the real point.

      And to respond to a later argument, Canada gained independence in 1867, burgle appeared in 1872. I hardly think 5 years is enough time to honestly allow for a country to complete shed all ties to it's former homeland. I mean, Canadian money still has the Queen on it. They may be independent, but that doesn't mean they're completely seperate. The same goes for Australia, especially considering the region of the world it's in.

      As for the last line of your comment, I'll quote you twice.

      Quote 1:And, yes, I did just write "spelt",: it's like "slept", "dreamt", "felt", etc; only Americans insist on using "spelled".

      Quote 2:(Funny but it's not me who's blowing someone off with pithy comments or one-liners here, is it?)

      Hypocritize much?

      (Notice, how by adding -ize to hypocrite, I made it a verb, albeit a poor one, not in the dictionary. According to your logic (i.e. remove the part of the word which makes it a noun and replace that with the verb forming silent -e), it would be easier, and make more sense, to say "Hypocre much." Right.)

    46. Re:"Burglarize" by drakaan · · Score: 1
      You missed this post, I think (I don't think the Oxfor English Dictionary is an American publication)... read me

      also...we don't insist on using "spelled" (or "spilled, for that matter)...our english teachers do. I used to piss mine off because I prefer "theatre" over "theater", but aside from that, I toed the line like everybody else.

      This is a pretty decent pedantic argument thread, though...keep up the good work, everybody [makes note to kill self]...

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    47. Re:"Burglarize" by Stepping+Razor · · Score: 1

      "UKia"? That's a new one on me. I once heard a yank refer to "the united states of kingdom" which I thought was great.

  24. GTA by demon_2k · · Score: 1

    Well...at leasn now we know that the recordings are realistic!

  25. Re:Sounds like viral marketing in time for Christm by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    The dictionary would disagree with you: Burglarize

  26. Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 'burglarizer'? Is that someone who burglarizers?

  27. Thieves panic by P2Powah! · · Score: 1

    "This is the Police" "This is the FBI" "This is the Army" "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US" ... Thieves : Oh damn, we are so screwed this time, (start shooting everywhere).

  28. Re:GTA SA wasn't even out it takes time to sentenc by duncangough · · Score: 1

    and please, stop making words up, it's worse than boswollox

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  29. Re:Sounds like viral marketing in time for Christm by Quill345 · · Score: 1

    Even better, look at the definition of burgle. It cross-references burglarize.

  30. Violent games are good for society! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would've happened if the kids were playing Pokemon instead?

    1. Re:Violent games are good for society! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Looks like we're blasting off again! *ting*

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  31. Updated "Hannah and the Whistling Teakettle"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Am I the only one that remembers this from elementary school?(From Amazon.com)
    Hannah's grandmother, a loving granny, but a hard case when it comes to accepting gifts, learns the pleasures and benefits of receiving in this story of expectations. Hannah is on a visit to her grandfolks and their soda fountain in the Bronx. She has brought along a whistling teapot as a present for her grandmother, who routinely returns most gifts as frivolous. That appears to be the fate of this one as well when grandma gives it the curse: "It's not a necessity." When Grandma's attention is distracted by a customer out front, Hannah takes the opportunity to put the kettle on the old stove and demonstrate that her grandma no longer need let her tea water boil silently away. Two strange men enter the shop and while one tries to distract Grandma, the other jimmies the pay phone. Next thing you know all chaos breaks loose as a high-pitched whistle cuts the air. Thinking its a police whistle, the robbers skedaddle. Grandma figures she'll keep the kettle after all: " `That little bird on the kettle maybe saved our life!' Hannah's grandmother had said. And life, she said, was a necessity." Palmisciano's (A Spaldeen Story) artwork is filled with little details that fix the time period as a gentler one: Grandmas sagging socks, Grandpas two-toned shoes, and the old-fashioned shop with its 20 cent sundaes. A charming story from a more innocent time.
  32. Re:Sounds like viral marketing in time for Christm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's an American dictionary, so it doesn't count. They can't even spell "colour".

  33. Re:STUPID ILLITERATE MORON'S by jcuervo · · Score: 1

    I think you should take a look at this before you talk about spelling and grammar any more.

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  34. Along the same lines.... by niew · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A friend of mine was kicked back on his couch in his boxers watching a movie (home theater type setup)...

    There was a knock at the door, he opened it a crack to answer it (he was in his boxers). The door was forced open and he was pinned to the floor by a bunch of heavily armed cops!

    It seems a neighboor had heard somebody yell "Everybody get down!" followed by some gun shots, put 1 and 1 together and came up with 3...

  35. Same AC again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You mean a dictionary disagrees with me: check out some more. Received wisdom is that burglarize is in common usage in the U.S. just like but is a corruption of burgle.

    Admittedly I'm in Oxford, home of the OED...

    1. Re:Same AC again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh so you're a Eurosnob. Great. Your opinion is duly noted.

    2. Re:Same AC again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Admittedly I'm in Oxford, home of the OED...


      Yes, and you're on Slashdot, a web site based in the U.S..... so fuck off, pommy bitch!
    3. Re:Same AC again... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      I'm an Oxford graduate, but live in the USA so when in Rome, and all that.

    4. Re:Same AC again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm an Oxford graduate, but live in the USA so when in Rome, and all that.

      Rome is in *Italy*.

      My GOD! You've even copied their abysmal knowledge of geography (-_^)

    5. Re:Same AC again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Admittedly I'm in Oxford, home of the OED...
      Ah yes. The worst dictionary in the world. Proof that quantity does not equal quality.

      Poor history, badly edited defintions, bad usage, plus we'll put any word in the universe in it if it can only make us expand to yet another volume. Greeeat. Lessee, what idiot words did they put in there last year? I recall WYSIWYG. Yeah, that was a good one.

      Here's a dime kid. Throw away the magnifying glass and go buy yourself a decent dictionary.

  36. Re:Funny... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    You mean ... you read Slashdot for something other than amusement?

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  37. Re:/., meet Fark. Fark, this is /. by Asmor · · Score: 0, Troll

    Aye. Incidentally, I submitted this with a better headline.

  38. Re:"Burglarize" (offensive) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the difference between a homophobic gangster and a cigarette smoker?

    The gangster's only killing gay people when he goes out to smoke some fags.

  39. This could help in other dangerous situations by aiabx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm looking for a video game that randomly says "Thank you for ordering the Anniversary Special Bouquet. It will be ready for pickup shortly".
    -aiabx

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  40. Re:STUPID ILLITERATE MORON'S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could you at least get your subject right when your post is just a rant on how illiterate we are?

    "Morons" not "Moron's"

    And by the way... burglarize is a 'real' word in US english.

  41. Congressional response? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, documentary evidence that anti-videogame elected officials hold that stance because they also happen to be PRO-CRIME.

  42. Home Alone by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I'm gonna give you to the count of ten to get your ugly, yella, no-good keister off my property before I pump yer guts full of lead. One... two... TEN!" *ACKACKACKACKACKACK* *pizza guy runs away all scared*

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  43. Of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... this situation proves that without a doubt, violent video games prevent crime!

  44. not SA, maybe Vice City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It happenned BACK IN MARCH....old news people...san andreas was not out back then, just vice city and gta3...

    also, the people had guns, i wish people would RTFA but thats too much to ask on slashdot

  45. Simple answer. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dont own only one gun. Or one knife.

    "Officer, he broke in, and had just picked up my other gun and i was forced to shoot him!!"

    Same goes for knives. THe only problem is, sadly, you can no longer just beat the crap/wound someone breaking into your house, you have to kill them to make sure you dont get sued or arrested.

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    1. Re:Simple answer. by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1

      ...you have to kill them to make sure you dont get sued or arrested.

      If more home-owners knew that just killing the bastard would be the simple solution, rather than try to make nice-nice, then either more criminals would be dead or, hopefully, deterred.

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    2. Re:Simple answer. by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1
      Or they'd change their modus operandi to home invasion and simply kill everyone before they knew what was going on. When someone gets desperate enough, there's no telling what they will do.

      I don't oppose gun ownership (though I do believe in mandatory safety and accuracy training), but simple solutions rarely have only the intended effect. Pervasive gun ownership did nothing to slow down the James brothers, nor does the large number of assault weapons owned by Afghan tribesmen appear to have brought about a peaceful society based on mutual respect.

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    3. Re:Simple answer. by austad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A cop friend once told me that if someone breaks into your house, it's technically illegal to shoot and kill them. However, he said that you bet your ass he would shoot and kill anyone that broke into his house. He also told me that if it ever happens, to make damn sure you shoot to kill, because if the person lives, you'll end up in court getting sued or going to prison.

      As far as I'm concerned, if someone comes into my house and forcefully comes through my locked bedroom door, they do not have good intentions. They will either be shot or chopped up with a razor sharp samurai sword.

      Oddly enough, there have been a couple of incidents lately in my city where burglars have been breaking into occupied houses around 5am, tying up the occupants at gunpoint, and then stealing all of their crap.

      Get yourself an alarm system, it's a good deterrent, and has the bonus of alerting you and waking you up if someone does decide to break in. With a properly installed alarm system, you can be reasonably sure that the bumps in the night are nothing. I've was robbed once at a house I was renting, they took a bunch of stuff. And, one of my roomies was home at the time, watching TV in the basement. A second time, we had an alarm system. Someone worked the back door open and it set off the alarm, they ran away. They are lucky they ran away too because they would have only been seconds away from being shot.

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    4. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so unloading my double barrel 10 gague loaded with slugs into his chest would be the best idea?

      wow, the mess that would make would make even crime scene cleanup crews puke.

      that is what my daddy told me, home defense is called your shotgun with the first round a slug the rest buckshot.

      you simple plead that you errantly loaded it in the dark while the man was trying to kill your wife, you get off pretty much scott free and you turned the piece of shit inside out and guarenteed that he will never harm anyone again.

    5. Re:Simple answer. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      A fool has a handgun as a "home defense" weapon.

      shotgun. more effective than any handgun, and in a panic you can easily hit the bastard.

      and always, shoot first ask questions later. if you see someone you do not know in your home with a gun, unload a round at his chest.

      also this is a LAST line of defense. adding a home alarm system is the first step. something that makes noise and turns lights on will scare away 99.9978% of all burgulars.

      the shotgun is what you use on the last 0.0032% that are too stupid, high, or insane to know better.

      I would add one last item... after the alarm and before the shotgun, you get yourself a good dog.

      not a piece of crap rottwiler, a german shepard, boxer or other full size dog. even a rough collie
      is a great dog for protection. if you want to even scare the crap out of the neighbor kids, get a Great Dane.

      alarm, big dog, shotgun. You can live safely in East LA with that combination.

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    6. Re:Simple answer. by macmouse · · Score: 1

      At the same time, you can point to sweeden which has mandatory military service (and you get to keep your weapons when you are done) which has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

      Of course, everyone has proper training with a instructor at a range and not just shooting beer bottles in someone's back yard.

    7. Re:Simple answer. by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1

      And universal healthcare and a big welfare state so that the poor aren't quite so desperate, thus removing one of the motivations for crime in the first place. There is far more than one factor in Sweden's low crime rate.

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    8. Re:Simple answer. by ModMeFlamebait · · Score: 1

      something that makes noise and turns lights on will scare away 99.9978% of all burgulars.

      the shotgun is what you use on the last 0.0032% that are too stupid, high, or insane to know better.


      so then you can have 100.001% of the burgulars(sic!) covered.

      ok, it's a nitpick. mod me down

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    9. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Swedish get to keep their weapons after they are done with the military service, are you sure? I think that I would have heard about it since I live right next door in Finland. I have always been under the impression that it is the Swiss who get to keep their military weapons at their homes. Could it be that you have confused Switzerland and Sweden?

    10. Re:Simple answer. by ChreexLe · · Score: 1

      so then you can have 100.001% of the burgulars(sic!) covered.

      ok, it's a nitpick. mod me down


      no, no...the dog must have been intended as -0.001% security...who the hell owns a poodle anyway?

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    11. Re:Simple answer. by EllF · · Score: 2, Informative
      Unless you're properly trained in how to wield a katana, I doubt you'll be doing a lot of cutting with it. The act of drawing a live blade can be dangerous to someone who doesn't know what they're doing; merely swinging one around like a baseball bat is just apt to sever your own arm.

      I'd reccomend using a wakizashi, anyways. They're substantially shorter, and far more suited to indoor use. The katana is the Japanese version of the longsword, and like its European counterpart, it wasn't meant to be used in close indoor combat as much as on the open battlefield.

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    12. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is coming from the same guy who holds up Afghanistan as an example of guns not preventing crime without acknowledging little things like civil wars, terrorists and religious fundamentalists, and the current foreign invasion?

    13. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that last .001% is for the insane cannibal maniac that likes the feel of shotgun pellets hitting his flesh and is actually interested in eating the dog, and simply is only interested in the skin of the people inside so he can make a new suit.

      that last 001% is hard to deal with but can be sucessfully redirected to the house of the fatter neighbors easily by telling him how he will get more yardage of skin and that theirs is more supple because of the high fat content.

      Oh and mention they have weiner dogs, phycopaths love weiner dogs.

    14. Re:Simple answer. by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 2, Funny

      don't worry

      i'm sure he's read snowcrash, whih is probably why he bought it in the first place

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    15. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the same time, you can point to sweeden which has mandatory military service (and you get to keep your weapons when you are done) which has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

      WRONG! You don't get to keep your gun in Sweden. Sweden has quite strict gun control laws. In Switzerland (see the difference: Sweden != Switzerland) you get to keep your gun after military service. And there's been problems in Switzerland due to this policy.

      But Swedes do have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. The reason is simple: good social security system.

      Anonymous Scandinavian

    16. Re:Simple answer. by Aggrazel · · Score: 1

      Actually the best deterrant against being robbed ...

      Big Dogs.

      I prefer boxers, because they look mean but are great with kids, but don't let that fool you, if they feel threatened they can get mean.

    17. Re:Simple answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet he lives in a U-Stor-It unit as well.

    18. Re:Simple answer. by Dusabre · · Score: 1

      Drawing a katana isn't a problem unless you're trying to do some ijatsu with it without knowing how to. Or if you try and handle it one handed - which anyone who has a single a single samurai film will not to do and who will buy one without having seen one?

      Anybody sees you with a katana, they're going to shit themselves and run. Its probably even more scary than a gun.

      "Oh shit, motherfuckers got a fucking samurai sword, he's a crazy bitch ass, mothefucker, I gotta get my ass out of here!" - stream of burglar conscious.

      I once chased a guy with a gun with a big ass telescopic baton, people equate size with danger and crazy fools with even more danger.

      Pull a wakizaki and you look like you've got a kitchen knife.

      "He he, fool, I'll stick that up his ass" - stream of burglar conscious.

      We're not talking about professional fighting in rooms between warriors.

    19. Re:Simple answer. by Etherael · · Score: 1

      The above poster is talking about switzerland, probably, I don't think that guns at home rule applies to sweden.

      Switzerland doesn't have much of a welfare state at all compared to the rest of Europe, their tax laws are quite soft.

  46. UK RULES, US DROOLS by BushIsEvil · · Score: 0, Troll

    That is right, the UK is right because you have to protect the rights of the criminals, they are humans too! The facist Americans allow people to defend their own property like the cavemen they are.

    Can't we just put people first? It will never happen in America. We all know George W. Bush invaded Iraq so that oil companies, SUV owners, Rush Limbaugh, and the Jews could oppress liberals. He doesn't care about the criminals either. What an evil man.

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    1. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by gnuLNX · · Score: 1

      LOL You made me smile.

      Thanks

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    2. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      lol i can barely tell if this is sarcastic/troll or what, but yeah, they are humans too even if they don't have much to contribute to society and judge-dredd vigilante justice attitudes are no substitute for a court, no matter how bureaucratic it is. Theres a big difference between someone protecting their home and a red-neck hic shouting 'you gots urself 3 seconds to geeet off ma' land!'

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    3. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Fuck yourself right off, limey! If some douchebag steps into my house without permission, I've got every right to blow his fucking head off.

      ROFL! Your honour, I rest my case.

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    4. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you think people should be victimized, "burgled", and possibly murdered just because they're "red-necks" with heavy accents? Wow, you really are progressive, fair, and open-minded. You sure do respect human life.

    5. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      shut it hoe

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    6. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Right to live trumps right to property.

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    7. Re:UK RULES, US DROOLS by krist0 · · Score: 1

      If we gets deevorced, are we stills brutha n sistah?

      All hail the gun nuts.

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  47. burglar's own fault. by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    because he should never bring a knife to a gun fight.

    1. Re:burglar's own fault. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Dammit, where do I know that line from?!

    2. Re:burglar's own fault. by ComputerSlicer23 · · Score: 1
      Sean Connery said a line similar to that in "The Untouchables".

      Here's how I remember it:

      "Only a Wop would bring a knife to a gun fight".

      IMDB.com has a slightly different quote: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094226/quotes

      "Isn't that just like a wop? Brings a knife to a gun fight. "

      Kirby

    3. Re:burglar's own fault. by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

      It comes from Jack Manion on 'The District'

    4. Re:burglar's own fault. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Seems that it gets around. :) I think the Untouchables wins by pure age of the reference tho.

      Didn't Seifer also say something along those lines when taunting Squall in FF8?

  48. Thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If the burgler had just played Thief...

  49. Americas Undisputed Dumbest Criminal by Stanneh · · Score: 1, Insightful

    his Prize for being so dumb is prison and lets hope he enjoys that prize for many many years to come.

    and for all the uk press i.e BBC you say GTA is bad for children fuckin tell that to these kids pareants.

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    1. Re:Americas Undisputed Dumbest Criminal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because obviously the burglar was a peodophile who was going to take each of them up the arse in turn,

      Sure they would have been traumatised by the burglary, but wtf is it with all your morons who think someone trying to take property is going to harm an individual? Burglary and Buggery are 2 different things.

    2. Re:Americas Undisputed Dumbest Criminal by I+confirm+I'm+not+a · · Score: 1

      and for all the uk press i.e BBC you say GTA is bad for children fuckin tell that to these kids pareants.

      (UK resident; regular BBC watcher) I'm not familiar with the BBC's supposed antipathy towards GTA - care to cite? I do recall a documentary about the GTA franchise on BBC Scotland; naturally it was fairly biased, as you'd maybe expect a programme made in Scotland to be about a game largely developed in Scotland (Rock Star North are based in Edinburgh). Clearly pro-GTA bias isn't what you're meaning, so, again, examples?

      PS. The BBC is not the UK press in toto. The letters you were looking for were "e.g."

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  50. quote from "Malibu's Most Wanted" by TTL0 · · Score: 1
    After using 2 Uzis fearlessly to scare off a rival gang, B-rad, a spoiled white kid and gangster wannabe is asked -

    Tec: Hey, yo, that was ill. Hey, where'd you learn that from?
    B-rad: Grand Theft Auto 3.

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  51. Because you... by Xenobane · · Score: 0

    puke on him due to that game?

    1. Re:Because you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats postal you moron

  52. Old ladies by geoffeg · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Some robbers tried to burglarize a poor old lady and her 3

    Why are old ladies always poor? Do non-poor ladies never get robbed (they should, they have more money).

    1. Re:Old ladies by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      And how poor was she that she had GTA?

    2. Re:Old ladies by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      Rich old ladies live in gated communities or assisted living homes which tend to have better security. Poor old ladies just make easier targets. I get jokes too.

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    3. Re:Old ladies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why are old ladies always poor? Do non-poor ladies never get robbed (they should, they have more money).

      How do you think they got to be poor? Burglars!

    4. Re:Old ladies by Bob+The+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      actually, you answered your own question! it's because they always get robbed!

  53. In Other News... by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 4, Funny

    The burglars who ran away are suing the owners of the home, the children, and Sony for causing them excessive job stress.

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  54. RTFA! by jfaulken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I usually wouldn't do this, but since:

    1) The article is only 4 paragraphs long, and
    2) At the time of my reply, this moron has been modded to +3 Insightful,


    Galveston County Asst DA Michael Elliott explained, "The police in the game were staying, 'Stop, we have you surrounded. This is the police.' The burglar, unknowingly, thought this was the actual police and panicked ... being apprehended by Playstation."


    and also


    Police arrested the four men. Samuel Woodrow received a five-year prison sentence this week. Ronnie Farris is serving four years. Lucas Griffin got probation. And Zachary Brandenburg's trial is in January.


    It's one thing for a -1 post to say things like "wah, wah, wah, what are you talking about, this is stupid, i bet it's a hoax" but when people are burning real modpoints, it's just a travesty. Travesty I tell ya.

    1. Re:RTFA! by porges · · Score: 1

      Urban legend articles often have names attached, which proves nothing.

      But in this case, there's video of the woman and 3 kids and pictures of the 4 robbers, so I'm going to go with "true".

    2. Re:RTFA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "when people are burning real modpoints, it's just a travesty. Travesty I tell ya."

      Welcome to slashdot, newbie.

  55. Historical footnote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This struck me as somewhat peculiar, since these are the same rules as for knights in one-to-one combat in the days of yore. I can understand that a bunch of highly idealistic men with fifteen years of training would hold it dishonorable to answer an unarmed attack with a sword.

    Yet I cannot for the life of me understand how the same rules would sneak their way into situations where a fifty year old lady is suddenly attacked by an eighteen-year old in her own home.

    Is this the old English common law sneaking into a modern-day setting? Any English leglislative history-buffs out there that would know the answer to this?

  56. Come on people! by Fulkkari · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most likely the burglar didn't get scared of the sound from GTA because it sounded like cops. When he heard the sound he probably just figured out someone was at home and decided to escape. Burglars want to do their business alone... not when the house is packed with people.

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    1. Re:Come on people! by uunh+haun · · Score: 1

      Time for the requisite RTFA.

    2. Re:Come on people! by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      You must be new here... Everyone knows that first you comment and then you read the article. :-)

      Okay. So you're right this time. They weren't burglars but some kind of robbers... But if they would have been burglars then I would have made a valid point. But that's again speculation.

      Nothing to see. Move along.

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    3. Re:Come on people! by Feanturi · · Score: 2, Informative

      The story says they came in and pointed guns, and that there were four of them. They weren't sneaking into anywhere, it was a home invasion.

    4. Re:Come on people! by jayloden · · Score: 1

      "Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids."

      That's from the actual article, so obviously, if you read it, it's clear they weren't scared by the fact that there were people in the house.

      -Jay

    5. Re:Come on people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The entire story sounds incredibly unlikely. If it's true, that's one for the books and really interesting (and funny as fuck!). I just call "bullshit" at the moment, though. I mean, come on - how can you be stupid enough to confuse the sound on a videogame with the sound of cops 50 feet away, out on the street?

    6. Re:Come on people! by hkb · · Score: 1

      Uhm, if you RTFA, you'd see that they state the burglars heard the police sounds from the game and fled. Great going, genius.

      And through the great Slashdot moderation system your post gets moderated "insightful".

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    7. Re:Come on people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, if you RTFA, you'd see that they state the burglars heard the police sounds from the game and fled. Great going, genius.

      Uh, and they know that was the cause... how, precisely? Did the burglars shout "Help, the cops are here" as they ran off? Maybe they snuck back later to leave a note explaining their actions?

      Or maybe the situation is open to interpretation, and the grandparent's theory is just as logical as, if less newsworthy than, the one the reporters came up with.

    8. Re:Come on people! by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Hey, they actually arrested and charged the guys, so it's not something that's just being made up by the old lady and/or her sons.

    9. Re:Come on people! by hkb · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it didn't even happen and we're all ignorant of the Matrix!

      Uh huh.

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  57. This is news? by Fractal+Dice · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The story is a funny little urban anecdote, but that's it. Burglers get scared off by a lot of things - and they usually don't rob houses while there are people in them so any sign of life can often scare them off.

    If this is news then I'm now waiting for a sensationalist story about a startled burgler or even a policeman on a routine call hearing the audio of some game character making a threat or seeing a high resolution gun pointed at him on a big screen and returning fire, hitting a kid.

    1. Re:This is news? by jayloden · · Score: 1

      "Back in March, Sandy Wilson was taking care of her three grandsons when a group of men attempted to burglarize her home, pointing a gun at the kids."

      Obviously, if you read it, it's clear they weren't scared by the fact that there were people in the house.

      -Jay

  58. San Andreas??? by Shant3030 · · Score: 1

    It wasn't released last March, the poster put the wrong title.

    Guess the editors aren't doing their job...

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  59. Re:Sounds like viral marketing in time for Christm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    That's an American dictionary, so it doesn't count. They can't even spell "colour".


    Yes, and you're on an "American" (U.S.) site.

    Pot.. kettle.. black.

    Enough said.
  60. The article doesn't say GTA:SA by mark-t · · Score: 2, Interesting
    According to the Article, the game was "Grand Theft Auto". That's it... no suffix.

    So I'm trying to figure out... where did the person who posted this story get the idea that it was definitely from the San Andreas edition of GTA?

    I haven't played any of the GYA games... is the sound effect being referred to by this story only in the SA version of GTA or something?

    Certainly if it _was_ GTA:SA, then the story's a fake because I understand it wasn't available back in March.

    1. Re:The article doesn't say GTA:SA by Darthmalt · · Score: 1

      Certainly if it _was_ GTA:SA, then the story's a fake because I understand it wasn't available back in March.

      Assuming the kids didnt get it off bit torrent

  61. Re:Sounds like viral marketing in time for Christm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, and you're on an "American" (U.S.) site. Pot.. kettle.. black. Enough said.

    Throwaway and (very) tongue-in-cheek line. Enough said.

  62. And in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Aliens were trying to abduct my grandmother, but I was playing Halo and they heard me operating the Scorpion, so they ran away.

  63. Cute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I weren't an AC I'd mod you up for that.

  64. Yeah the opposite was so much better by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Where a landowner could just kill a dirty peasant coming on their land or have them flogged to within an inch of their lives.

    People always complain about the extreme of laws but never seem to have the intelligence to ask why these laws are there.

    The laws in question deal with two things. So called self-defence and playing your own judge.

    There was time when property owners (the upper class/royalty) had plenty of rights. Steal or even just be on the land of the local landlord and you could be killed by his guards. Punishments was whatever the local lord saw fit to deal out.

    This has changed. Now it is up to the police and court system to punish crimes.

    Do criminals have rights? Well the problem is who defines who is a criminal? Is a peasant catching a deer to feed his family a criminal? Well yes and off with their head.

    Nowadays we prefer the courtsystem to decide guilt and punishment. Sometimes this results in "unjust" decisions but what every intelligent person has to ask themselve is what would the alternative result in. Would you allow force to protect a car from being broken into?

    My car is parked on parking lot and you standing next to it causes the alarm to go off. Luckily I got my gun and under your jobbo rule I blow him away. Oops turned out you just bumped my car with your elbow while opening your own. Oh well. At least your family has the right to shoot people who trespass on your grave eh?

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    1. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Umm... Who was arguing for the extreme opposite of banning the use of lethal force for self-defense in the home?

      All I think most of us are saying is that when you're in your own home, and someone forces themselves inside and threatens you with any kind of physical harm - reponding by shooting them is most likely a *reasonable* response.

      I'm not saying it should be legal to shoot some teenager who wanders onto your farmland, or climbs the fence and walks across your back yard. Certainly, you don't have good cause to shoot at a person just because they set your car alarm off in a public parking lot.

      None of that is the issue at all. The problem is, if we're going to put the burden of proof on the innocent victim at home to show he/she really was going to be killed if he/she didn't shoot first, - we're coming ever-closer to saying people have no more right to privacy in their home than they do outdoors!

    2. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by dh003i · · Score: 1

      If someone steps on your property and refuses to leave, you have the right by natural law to use whatever force is necessary to remove them. If someone's threatening you, you have the right to use proportional force in response to the degree of the threat. Someone burglarizing one's home poses a lethal threat, and lethal force is justified in response. See Law, Property Rights, and Air Pollution. Rothbard, Murray.

    3. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't help but think your only experience with the police is from watching Cops where it seems like they always show up in time and take care of everything.

      I wonder how many unused tapes they have of showing up 30 minutes after a home invasion or robbery, look around, take a statement and say they'll "Do what they can" which is basically nothing except hope they get lucky and the guy commits a crime closer to a cop.

      Or perhaps you somehow managed to not know a single person who's had a violent crime committed against them randomly. It changes your perspective with a quickness. What was once a notion of a controlled well kempt society suddenly seems like total anarchy.

      The eternity it takes for the cops to arrive make you feel like an idiot for being so naive and innocent. Once they've come and gone and showed their total lack of any real power against personal crimes your entire view of the world changes.

    4. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by cduffy · · Score: 1
      I'm not saying it should be legal to shoot some teenager who wanders onto your farmland, or climbs the fence and walks across your back yard.
      It was interesting, moving from California to Texas and needing to actually take "No Trespassing" signs seriously.

      Here on Texas, if you commit theft or criminal mischeif at night, it's legal for the homeowner to shoot you to prevent you from escaping. Lead the homeowner to reasonably believe failure to use deadly force would result in serious bodily injury? Blammo. Trespass alone is pretty serious, too, though not in and of itself grounds for use of lethal force. (If you possess a conceiled-carry permit, trespass becomes even more serious for you -- even if you're not armed at the time).

      That said, as long as everyone knows and understands the potential consequences of their actions... well, it's not so bad. Teenagers here generally know better than to commit malicious mischief at night. Speaking in particular as a homeowner who has harbored a friend who was running away from an abusive relationship, I'm very very glad that Texas law provides adequately for defense of self and property.

    5. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      see this is why this world is such a scary place to live in. not because of the people that want to protect their home/lives with force, but because of the people that dont want to allow it and the reasoning they come up with. no one that wants a gun to protect their home is going to shoot someone that bumps against their car, or shoot someone walking on a family grave, or whatever other stupid comparison you can come up with. i mean seriously, what type of retarded logic are you employing here. these people that believe that given a bit of freedom society will turn to hell are the scary ones. it scares us, the normal people that just want to protect our home, to think about what you would do given a gun if your aired thoughts on the subject are to shoot people that get too close to your car.

    6. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by nomadic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If someone steps on your property and refuses to leave, you have the right by natural law to use whatever force is necessary to remove them.

      "Your honor, under the state penal code my actions were illegal, but that law doesn't apply to ME; I only follow natural law."

      Ain't gonna work.

      Though the situation mentioned sounds very fishy, no state requires you to retreat when you're in your home. I have a feeling that the facts are a lot different than how they were presented.

    7. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by dh003i · · Score: 1

      That's nothing more than an appeal to power, consequentialism. "If you don't do what these powerful men want you do, they will use coercive force against you." So what? That's neither a legal nor a moral argument. All you've shown is that the political class exercises power. So what? That doesn't say anything about law, justice, or morality.

      There are moral facts, just as surely as there are physical and mathematical facts. The arbitrary expressions of those in power can't make something right or wrong anymore than they could make 2+2=5. An argumentatively indisputeable principle of law is that of non-aggression, for one cannot argue against that principle without self-contradiction. Hans-Hermann Hoppe explains this well, referring to the a priori of argumentation, namely that you cannot consistently argue for anything that violates that premises you assume by arguing in the first place. You cannot argue that Mises' action axiom (man acts) is false, because arguing is itself an action. You cannot argue against Rand's consciousness axiom, because by the act of arguing, you demonstrate conscience. And you cannot argue against the non-aggression axiom, because by entering an argument in the first place, you're assuming it.

      Legislation is merely an expression of power. You can't legislate morality, justice, or law. Your power can either be in recognition of natural law (and morality) or against it, but it cannot change it.

    8. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 1

      And you cannot have this argument under the same premises.

      Ain't being a subjectively right person great?

    9. Re:Yeah the opposite was so much better by dh003i · · Score: 1

      Because you haven't explained yourself, that doesn't make any sense.

  65. Not an ideal example by biglig2 · · Score: 1

    Idealist and idealistic mean different things.

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  66. This is a lie .. this story is not true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously guys, the robbers were Mexican. If they heard sirens they would have thought it was a mariachi festival.

  67. Fucking hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    genius

  68. Nice set of speakers, grams by Shazow · · Score: 0, Troll

    That grammy must have a nice speaker system to fool someone that the cops aren't coming from a small box in the other room.

    And a playstation two too, that's one hip grandma.

    - shazow

  69. Stupid robbers by kryogen1x · · Score: 1

    The bad guys didn't use cheats? Obviously, they forgot about R1, R1, Circle, R2, Up, Down, Up, Down, Up, Down. That would have lowered the wanted level. What n00bs.

  70. Say burgle.... by KrugalSausage · · Score: 1

    over and over. It starts losing all meaning -like banana phone.

  71. Re:now thats retarded.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Niggers, probably.

  72. Text-book example of making the news by crashnbur · · Score: 1

    This seems like a text-book example of making the news rather than reporting the news. It sounds like someone decided to put their own twist or assumption at the forefront without having all the facts.

    More likely, the burglars either realized someone was home, or else they recognized Grand Theft Auto and thought the percentage of meeting some psychotic kid (as a result of playing too many violent video games) just increased.

    Either way, there's nothing unusual about this. The burglars entered, got spooked, and left. It happens often enough that it definitely doesn't deserve front-page status on Slashdot just because some kids were playing a video game.

    1. Re:Text-book example of making the news by Mortlath · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I know this has already been mentioned, but the robbers were holding the children at gunpoint. So the robbers weren't spooked by the presence of people in the house.

      I suppose they might have been spooked by the thought of more people in the house. But it seems unlikely. On the other hand, the whole incident was very unlikely to happen.

  73. It happenned in March by bhsx · · Score: 1

    As this story happenned in March, there is no way that it was San Andreas.

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  74. Re:/., meet Fark. Fark, this is /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a trap!

  75. Re:STUPID ILLITERATE MORON'S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+bur glarize&btnG=Google+Search

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=define% 3A +burgled&btnG=Search

    I don't know HTML so screw off.

  76. Good excuse by shadowsurfr1 · · Score: 1

    This is a good excuse for all of the kids who want GTA but parents won't let them get it.

  77. Strawman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does this have to do with someone breaking into your home and threatening youR life? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

  78. Re:Games aren't bad for you? by gothzilla · · Score: 1

    If they had been playing GTA, they would have recognized the audio from the game.
    You're also confusing cause and corrolation. You play violent games because you already enjoy or are attracted to that type of violence. If you weren't then the game would offend you and you wouldn't play it. I am attracted to games like Halo but the type of violence in GTA isn't appealing to me so I don't play it.
    Games may increase someone's already existing level of aggression but they cannot create it from nothing and they certainly never CAUSE it.

  79. This happened in Texas. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    If they don't have a spare gun handy, I'm sure they could just borrow one from the neighbors.

    Mal-2

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  80. NOT Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas by itallushrt · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you actually RTFA you will see that this happened last March. Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas was not even out yet. Had to be either the orginal GTA or GTA: Vice City.

    1. Re:NOT Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you'd HAFC (that's "Have a F***ing Clue") you'd know that the original GTA is a Playstation Uno game that doesn't contain any realistic police dialogue. What you were wanting to say is "GTA III".

  81. That has not be the most unrelated argument... by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    ...you could have possibly made. This is NOT a question of pesants and king and deer. In case you didn't notice, that's not how the US is anymore. It's families living in small track homes or apartments.

    The issue is, when an intruder breaks in and threatens your property, safety, life, or life of your family, what are you allowed to do? It's nice to sit reading Slashdot, sipping a cappuccino and say "Well the courts will deal out what punishment they deserve, you should just sit and let them have what they want." What if what they want is to rape your daughter? Or to beat your son until he can't walk? Do you just sit and let it happen or do you defend yourself and your family?

    We aren't talking medieval land laws, we are talking basic ethics: Keep your hands off my shit and stay out of my house if you aren't invited.

  82. Along those lines by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What worries me is that if an ammendment can be legslated away "for the public good" what about the others? There are plenty of other ammendments that are troublesome, and the government has made attempts in the past and now to curtail.

    If they legslate away the second, then that's great prescident for them to say "We need to get rid of the sixth ammendment. Look at all the drug dealers and evil doers that get off on technicalities because of their scumbag lawyers. The defandant doesn't need a lawyer, they just twist the truth. Our Great and Noble prosecutors are only concerned with the truth, so that's all that is needed. Don't worry, this won't be abused, it just helps make you safe."

    I mean you can argue that basically any ammendment should be done away with to make us safer. In a perfect world, that'd be the case. If the government were composed of perfectly noble beings, than none of these rights would be necessary, because all they do is et in the way of the conviction of the guilty.

    However, that's NOT the case. Governments are corrupt, all of them, to some degree because HUMANS are corrupt. There are next to no examples of perfectly noble human beings. So things like the Bill of Rights exist to control that, and to protect people by ensuring the government can't do whatever it wants.

  83. Also, if you are an animal person by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Get yourself a woof-dog, meaning a largish dog that likes to bark when someone comes to the door. Doesn't need to be a mean dog, or an attack dog or anything like that, just not a tiny little rat dog and not a super quiet dog. Most largish dogs will fit the bill, since they'll woof at people coming by just by nature.

    A dog woofing is as or more scary than an alarm because it not only alerts the owners, it could end up being the kind of dog that'll rip you apart. Most crooks will go elsewhere rather than risk it.

    That and it's nice to have a dog that loves you no matter what come and greet you at the door every day. They are always happy to see you come home.

    1. Re:Also, if you are an animal person by WomensHealth · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear. My wife and I moved into a shady neighborhood in Chicago about 3 years ago. We considered buying a gun, just in case any of the neighborhood crackheads decided to let themselves in. Turns out, we've never needed a gun. Our two medium-sized (but very scary-sounding) dogs are more than enough deterrrent. Plus, they hear everything. The moment any passer-by ventures off the sidewalk and into our yard, the dogs know about it. If we hear a suspicious sound in the middle of the night, and the dogs ignore it, we know that it's safe for us to ignore it, too.

    2. Re:Also, if you are an animal person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get yourself a woof-dog

      Sadly I'm not a dog person, but I do love cats. So instead of having a woofing dog, I'd need something like a roaring tiger. The only problem is that tigers don't fit as pets by their nature.

    3. Re:Also, if you are an animal person by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      I had a cocker spaniel that sounded like the Barry White of the canine world. He had this deep bark that sounded like some great Mastiff if not Cerebus. People would come over and be scared of his bark. They would see this cocker and look around nervously for the big dog. Then the cocker would bark again and they would jump out of thier skins.

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  84. Similiar Experience with IRC Wave Files by z4ce · · Score: 2, Funny

    About 7 years back our house was nearly broken into. At the time I was an IRC junkie (running my own network and all). We used to play this wav file that had a guy screaming WAKEUP!!! and we would play it frequently late at night to get each others attention.

    For some reason all the thief did was open the window. For some reason he didn't go any further. Our best guess is when he was breaking in he heard a wave file yelling WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!! :)

    Ian

    1. Re:Similiar Experience with IRC Wave Files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's from "Blade Runner", in which case the full quote would have been even better:

      "Wake up! Time to die!" (Leon, to Deckard)

    2. Re:Similiar Experience with IRC Wave Files by orpx · · Score: 2, Funny

      lol, so you assume.

      its funny, cause this one time i left my window open, but forgot about it, and came back and saw my window was open. nothing was stolen, atleast that i know of, but looking under my bed, the dust bunnies looked alittle out of place. Confirming my actual thought of dust bunnies scaring away the possible criminals from the window i forgot i left open. It was a thrilling experience, now I keep dust bunnies everywhere and make sure to clean NOWHERE.... or maybe it was the state of digust my room was in? that made the possible criminal think that this place wasnt worth ripping off... or maybe it was some passing cars, or neighbors fumbling around in the back..i dunno, but im sure its the dust bunnies! fear the seemingly void balls of collaboration.

    3. Re:Similiar Experience with IRC Wave Files by z4ce · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, except that.. the next day someone's house was broken into and they slit the girls throat... luckily she was a nurse and was able to save herself.

      The window also had giant handprints on it. It was obvious the window was opened from the outside. Unfortunately, the cops didn't even take any the prints, so it wasn't possible to know if it was the same person.

      Ian

  85. In Neoconservative America... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

    Guns oppress you!

    Federal agents can hold American citizens indefinitely in a foriegn country without charges. They can read your email or listen to your phone conversations on little more than a whim. They can seize your property on mere suspicion of drug crimes, and you will have no recourse or compensation even if you are eventually acquitted.

    The US government has already overstepped their constitutional bounds, and all our guns didn't stop it.

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    1. Re:In Neoconservative America... by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The US government has already overstepped their constitutional bounds, and all our guns didn't stop it.

      If the American people cared, the US government never would have overstepped its constitutional bounds, and we wouldn't have needed to use guns in order to stop it. And if the American people don't care, all the guns in the world won't make a difference.

      The Founding Fathers wrote a good constitution, and a great bill of rights. They ensured that we'd be able to speak out and vote to control the government, and that the rights of minorities would be protected as well. There's only one thing they couldn't do. They couldn't insure that we Americans actually care. If we don't care, none of our rights and none of our restrictions on government will make a difference.

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    2. Re:In Neoconservative America... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If the American people cared, the US government never would have overstepped its constitutional bounds, and we wouldn't have needed to use guns in order to stop it. And if the American people don't care, all the guns in the world won't make a difference."

      The problem is this: The government started overstepping its bounds in such small steps that the people who saw the problem and spoke up looked like lunatic fringe extremists. Sure, some of them were, but that's neither here nor there.

      Now, when the steps are visible to some of the more rational portions of the public, the arguments have all been used, and shot down as arguments of the lunatic fringe.

      People hear "slippery slope", and immediately switch into this-guy-is-a-nut-job mode, because the slippery slope argument has been used so much in the past by people who they percieved to be nut jobs.

  86. love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for this and other things love this game ;) greets

  87. Romero afraid of his own game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Romero ran in, pointed a gun at me, saw that I was playing Daikatana and ran off screaming, afraid I would laugh at him, because he was embarassed to be seen with his own game.

  88. Re:"Burglarize" - the reason for 999 by frugle · · Score: 1

    I asked as a child (when phones had rotary dials and pulse mechanisms) why 999 was for an emergency - where 111 would be much faster to dial.

    The answer I was given was that in a dark smoke-filled house, when you find the phone, you stick your finger in the hole next to the fingerguard and that's the 9.

    can anyone confirm this was the reason for choosing 999?

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  89. It's a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...robbers are always busy robbing people and not playing video games, 'cause otherwise this wouldn't have worked...

  90. hmm by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

    this story sounds like home alone, further confirmed by the fact that if the burgularizers were scared away, nobody would have known.

  91. I don't believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This story sounds completly made up.

  92. They weren't playing San Andreas by Gax · · Score: 0

    I started my new years' resolution early and, wait for it, read the article! The story reports an event that happened in March, several months before San Andreas was released. The Assistant DA mentions they were apprehended by Playstation, so it could be GTA 1 (PS1), 2 (PS2),3 (PS2), or Vice City (PS2).

  93. MOD PARENT DOWN ... by GreenEggsAndHam · · Score: 1

    Somehow the parent is absolving the repeat burglers who abuse the law in its current state on the grounds of the state of things 500 years ago ?

    And somehow some moderator as clueless as the parent gave him mod points ? wtf ?

    Over and out.

  94. Duck and Cover by indianropeburn · · Score: 1

    I hoped he ran for some nearby trees or bushes when he heard the police helicopters closing in on him.

  95. The Punisher by cduffy · · Score: 1

    Dammit, where do I know that line from?!

    It was in The Punisher (movie, don't know about the comics).

  96. RTFA by cduffy · · Score: 1

    They actually had guns pointed at the children before turning tail and running off. Thus it wasn't knowing that there was someone in the house that scared them.

    Further, they've been caught and charged. It seems likely that the distinction wrt what it was that lead them to run off would have come out by now.

  97. Dubya? by roesti · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good to see George W. Bush partaking in the Internets.

  98. But before that, they time warped to the future... by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...to get GTA:San Andres since it was not available back in March when this attack happened. I would guess it was more likely GTA3 or GTA:Vice City.

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  99. American History X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My guess: they're planning on overstepping their bounds.

    I suppose in that case it will be okay if I snap somebody's neck by making them kiss the curb then...

  100. Re:"Burglarize" - the reason for 999 by LoztInSpace · · Score: 1

    I remember being told that it was the least likely to be 'dialed' by line noise and the like. I doubt that would be a problem now but both of these sound likely, especially when you go back to the earliest days.

  101. Where is the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ..."-1, Fucking Gross" modifier, when you need it?!

    1. Re:Where is the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would need a "+1, Fucking Gross" modifier to go with it.

  102. Re:GTA SA wasn't even out it takes time to sentenc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i was just going to post that. I agree the poster is an idiot. GTA:SA came out 1-2 months ago, This happened back in MARCH.

  103. hohoho by amoe · · Score: 1

    Brings a new meaning to the term "savegame"!

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  104. Re:"Burglarize" - the reason for 999 by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

    http://www.phonebooth.us/phones/images/Web%20500DM .jpg
    As you can see, 0 is the hole next to the fingerguard.

  105. Has it occurred to anyone else that... by glarbl_blarbl · · Score: 1

    If drugs weren't so fucking expensive here that people wouldn't need to burglarize to pay for their crack?! Trust me, if you like to smoke a spliff now and again- you really don't want to come here.. -g

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  106. Re:/., meet Fark. Fark, this is /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fark usually scoops Slashdot by a few hours minimum. A few days typically.

  107. If this game were a firearm... by raehl · · Score: 1

    The NRA would have a press release.

  108. Hmmm... where have i seen this before? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1
  109. Re:But before that, they time warped to the future by OhioJoe · · Score: 1


    It's likely an urban legend. even if they were scared by the sirens in the game, they likely weren't convinced by "come out with your hands up". Did they interview the guys who told why they fled the house? There's many things that could (and does) scare burglars out. Heck, I was looking for a freshly stolen car the other night, then found it abandoned in an alley, doors open. They bailed because they were spooked. I then realized that an ambulance, sirens wailing, had just driven down and stopped on the road next to the alley for an unrelated run. That's likely why they bailed, they thought they were spotted and being chased. But how easily we could make an urban legend out of that, and say some kids were playing GT3 hooked up to their 1500 watt stereo system, and that spooked them.

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  110. Where could this be? by RobinH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where on earth would you live that someone wanting to steal your DVD player and the $50 worth of cash in your dresser would actually bother to bring a gun with them? If they come in and realize you're home, they just going to leave. Plus, try it in my house and you're going to get a jaw full of rottweiller teeth in your leg.

    I just find it odd that even though property crime rates are about even in both Canada and the U.S., you see the following difference in homicide rates:

    Homicide (per 100,000)
    Canada: 1.9
    U.S.: 5.6

    That's even though Canadians are more urban, less pro-life, less fire-and-brimstone religious, just as multi-cultural, and own almost as many guns (about 70% of the U.S. rate of ownership - though it's admittedly hard to find exact rates).

    Does anybody have ANY idea why the homicide rate is so much higher in the U.S. than other industrialized nations? I mean a real intelligent idea? Canadians and Americans just aren't that different, so why the huge difference in this one area? If someone could figure it out, the U.S. could stand to stop 10,000 homicides per year. If each life is 1 million dollars (per insurance rates), thats 10 billion in savings every year!

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    1. Re:Where could this be? by nativespeaker · · Score: 0

      When we stop and reflect on the vast crystalline superiority of Canada we tend to shoot each other out of despair.

      We'll try to keep the blood off your carpet.

    2. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The end is nigh... an American is complaining that a Canadian is too arrogant. That's almost as bad as Americans calling the French "rude".

    3. Re:Where could this be? by nativespeaker · · Score: 0

      I'm not complaining. Most of my friends are Canadian. Well, kind of friends. I mainly shuffle behind them, hoping that some of their radiance might inadvertently glance off my troll-like face, giving me a tantalizing glimpse of what I can never be. Oh, and once they let me buy them some beer. It was the best.

    4. Re:Where could this be? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1
      "Does anybody have ANY idea why the homicide rate is so much higher in the U.S. than other industrialized nations?"

      Population density?

      /P

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    5. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the urban/rural mix is something like U.S. 56% urban and Canada 66% urban. Canadians are more likely to live in cities (to keep warm? :-)

      Keep trying.

    6. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The answer is not just one simple difference (e.g. Americans just like to murder people). If you're looking for a single divergence that leads to a higher murder rate, you're only going to find what you wanted to see in the first place.

      I hear Americans are fatter, too, would you mind pointing that out as well?

    7. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think Americans are significantly fatter though, and even if they are, there are some valid reasons that come to mind (larger food servings in restaurants, etc.). The homicide rate is a huge difference, and there's no reasonable explanation.

      No need to get defensive.

    8. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then come on over and I'll pull out the Cuban cigars. ;-)

    9. Re:Where could this be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I read an article once about UK murder statistics that said it was all in what they counted as a homicide.

      Apparently the US counts a lot more things as homicides.

      If you added up all the related death statistic groups in the UK you came out with numbers that were higher than the US totals.

    10. Re:Where could this be? by RobinH · · Score: 1

      Cite ref please.

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  111. The worst part of your post is... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    That someone modded you up. Time to head for MetaMod and punish a few people for also failing to read the article.

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  112. Okay, I take back the 'illiterate moron' bit. by EnglishTim · · Score: 1

    To my English Ears 'burglarize' sounds like an abomination. However, I found an interesting article that suggest that both 'burgle' and 'burglarizer' both appeared in the language at roughly the same time, and that different sides of the Atlantic simply chose differently.

  113. April , 2042, Recent developments by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 1
    Nice idea, but requires some work on the edges:

    Washinton Post, 2042:

    In recent developments, Bloomington, Illinois acquired nuclear weapons to defend itself.

    Bloomington has announced that ..

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    1. Re:April , 2042, Recent developments by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Mmm.

      My post was severely tongue-in-cheek, intended to describe the sort of organization that the USA was originally envisioned and established as (and in doing so, suggest that an appropriate fix for ongoing issues would not necessarily be an entirely new governmen so much as a reversion to the original state of the present one).

      That said, I don't think that avoiding the kind of situation you suggest as an edge case is one where there's genuine need for a federal government with the power to intervene. Practical concerns (such as NIMBYism on the part of Bloomington's citizens, costs involved in running a nuclear weapons program, etc) should be more than sufficient to head off that sort of scenario.

  114. Burglarize? by gborland · · Score: 1

    Burglarize? Is that even a word? The verb is burgle; hence, one who burgles is a burglar.

    1. Re:Burglarize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See the four separate discussions above concerning why you are wrong, jackass.

  115. Re:now thats retarded.... by bensafrickingenius · · Score: 1

    No, they have "we have you surrounded" sound.

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  116. news for nerds, stuff that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    seems important to people who have no life but a pair of thumbs that could crush stones.

  117. see The Galveston Newspaper posting - more details by clarkc3 · · Score: 1

    Yes, but to urban Legends get posted in the newspaper of the city mentioned in the article. Has a few more details in it than the posted story too

  118. Harsh penalties by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 1

    Because in the States, you have nothing to lose.

    A) There's no social safety net so if you're sick or hungry, you're SOL.

    B) The amount of jail time you get for an offence, it doesn't matter that much if you throw in some extra shit. Only the first murder costs you, they're all free after that.

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  119. Re:But before that, they time warped to the future by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    It's like that line in the Home Alone movie. "Keep the change you filthy animal." And the pizza boy runs away with machine gun noises.

  120. Re:see The Galveston Newspaper posting - more deta by mink · · Score: 1

    Sorry for adding so late.
    Yes urban legends to end up all over the media in the place they supposedly happen, but only when the journalism of the local media is so craptastic they cant bother to actually check the facts.
    In columbus, Ohio. A mall was the supposed site of a famous legend, the story spread and the local media printed it as truth. Then a couple days late when no one could verify in any way the contents of the legend hey started to try to backtrack on the fear they were capitaliziing on.
    The UL in this case was an old 1800's era one.

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