Whoa, an American actually stupid enough to try to argue on the basis of 'innocent until proven guilty'... so its okay for you, on one side, to use this as an argument, but when its used against you (WMD, anyone? 911 attack evidence, anyone?) well... thats a different story...
Lets just let it rest. You're not gonna learn anything, and you're not gonna teach me anything.
... the only thing stopping me from using my Clie for everything - email, phone, watching TV, etc. - is *a complete lack of software*.
Hardware-wise, the Clie NX70V - while being a little outdated by now - has everything I need in order to converge all my devices into one... but it appears that Sony don't want that to happen, and have done everything they can to ensure their Video/Audio API is broken for this use.
A politician has a job, just like you. Should you be bagged and tagged to make sure you arent talking to competitors.
A politicians job is far more important than mine. It has its risks, it has its responsibilities.
Politicians should be held accountable for every single thing they do while they are on the job. Its the only way to ensure we -the people- don't get screwed...
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would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
The reason the US opposes the ICC is not because 'US soldiers dont get safety', its because there are existing ICC court orders regarding certain war crimes which the current administration are guilty of committing...
American propaganda about the ICC *never* includes the small item about Cheney being immediately subject to war crimes prosecution, were the US to ratify the ICC...
The reason America objects to the ICC is that Cheney, Bush Sr., Powell, and half of the current administration would be called up to be prosecuted for war crimes they committed during Gulf War One...
"The Highway of Death" incident comes immediately to mind, but there are other crimes which Powell and co. are responsible for...
yeah, right. you know that for sure, right? you've seen the completed investigation that states, unequivocably, that there is evidence that Osama Bin Laden did this?
I remember once nagging the sys admins to always make sure that there is a man page... The DESCRIPTION was the C source...
So, not only are you working in a cool field, but you're also working with some of the best sysadmins in the world (in my opinion).
Nice.
Guess I'm gonna hit the little pill next to your name, as your post has also rejuvenated a slightly diverted personal inspiration of mine to go back to school and study linguistics.
What are sources for the more interesting field journals/publications worthy of swot - care to make some suggestions?
I'm far from a neo-luddite, I assure you. I've been writing code since 1979, and have pretty much not stopped.
I've built computing systems for extremely large corporations, I've even started a few prominent ISP's or two, and now I'm living in industrial Germany working for a synthesizer company.
Something *CAN* be done about technology, and that is discussion. We're discussing it, you and me at least, and if there is at least a small conclusion that we must take a bit more responsibility - as technological people - for how our technology can be mis-used, then that is progress my friend.
True progress, not derived, as most all technological 'advances' are these days...
We will not be the ones who benefit from technology being used to alter human perception.
This guy is clearly more concerned with travelling around the world than reading a slashdot post and actually understanding what it says.
You're talking about me, right, "Mr. This Guy..."?
He must be imagining what, an electrode gun that shoots electrodes into your ears?
Listen, go get your Mom to give yours a good clean, there you go son, and then I'll explain it to you. Ready?
Research on magnetic convolution and the effects on the inner ear as related to human perception of gravity/motion, put in the hands of "The Video Game Industry, Inc." is a -dangerous- move. We have no idea what sort of circumstances such heavy electronics can incur in terms of human mental development. You've seen kids get 'addicted to video games', its a palpable fact, spend hours and hours and hours and hours in front of them, playing.
Shall we add 'sub-electronic pain' to the mix as well, give them pavlovian jolts whenever they're not responding to the correct pre-programmed electronic media-packaged-as-gaming-experience... ?
You think thats wise technology to introduce into the context of the world situation, do you, young fellah?
I am trying to imagine just what the hell he is thinking and how this could possibly be used for crowd control.
You're walking down the street, someone 'important' walks by, the pavement is programmed to throw everyones natural balances, subtly, away from their path.
I give it 2 years before such things are being considered by world governments everywhere for use in so-called 'public' places, just the way other 'loiter-deterrent design' is implemented in park benches, etc.
Besides, the next great crowd control device is microwave-based, and makes everyone feel hot/burning to the skin.
Oh, okay, so I guess it would be okay for you if its microwave then, and actual cooking occurs.
How would affecting our balance help?
Well, in your case, you could put one in your right ear and give yourself at least half a chance of survival.
Making a crowd fall over is not crowd control. Making them leave is.
Making a crowd do anything against their will, whatever the action, is crowd control.
Sure, you stick it behind your ear today... but in a year, there'll be projectable versions of it, if there aren't already. C'mon, you think even Sony might have something in the 'inner ear sub-magnetics' department, eh?
All I'm saying, and just get this through your head without making any bold assertions of tinhatted'ness about a person you know nothing about, is that its -dangerous- to be flippant about this technology; not least of which in the context of video games, frequently violent ones.
Who knows what sort of mess we could make of someones mental growth with things like this around, and who knows if sane, ordered societies are going to "always" be around to prevent their use?
Maybe its too big a question to pose on slashdot, though, I'll grant that...
Uhhh... anywhere you want to control a mass of people, this technology can be used.
Put it in the streets, use it for 'crowd control' in riot situations, make it a 'requirement for accomodating the needs of blind people' in sporting arena's, etc.
All I'm saying is we shouldn't be so blase about altering human perception with technology, or making cheap the means to do so... because in 20 years time, who is to say a whole different and radically inclined group of people aren't going to be able to use it for their purposes?
And just because you think that thinking that people are out to get you is paranoid or fantastic, doesn't mean that I shouldn't exercise my right (and skills) to accurately predict when such is the case.
Getting it wrong is fine. If I'm paranoid, that means I'm wrong, and I'd be glad to be wrong.
But sooner or later, mark my words, this technology will do bad things to the human species, with long-term effects.
We should not be so blase about human perception, or the means - electronic (and thus cheap), or otherwise - used to alter it forcefully under the control of another.
Slashdot certainly got its share of the tin foil hat brigade but this guy takes the cake.
Umm.. who exactly are you talking to in your third person narrative?
For the record, I've been around the globe twice, lived (and am living) in many foreign lands, and worked my ass off the whole way round. I'm no tin-foil type, but also, I'm not clueless: I've seen what big business (good and bad) can do to people. In many more places than just one.
If you don't understand why this technology could be used against you, by people with no scruples, well then... stop reading slashdot and do a little studying, fruitcake.
(Be sure to check back on the/. archives when the whole world is a wirehead...)
It certainly takes a special kind of person to look at the plane that he built and say to himself "Yes, technically it can perform this task." and completely ignore the other voice in his soul saying "Although perhaps I should not force my luck."
I suppose you could say that its the same kind of person who would build their own server system out of parts, turn it on, and let a few million people at it...
Not the same order of magnitude, nor degree of responsibility, perhaps, but maybe the same kind...
As a geek, I'm highly interested in the logistics and intrigue of doing something such as flying oneself around the world, 3 times, in a plane I've built lovingly with my own hands.
What modern systems have taken the place of patronage?
At ampfea.org we've banded together... by 'we', I mean all of the musicians/artists that make up the community, and we support the costs of running things ourselves.
There are quite a few patrons in our mix, let me tell you.
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Whoa, an American actually stupid enough to try to argue on the basis of 'innocent until proven guilty' ... so its okay for you, on one side, to use this as an argument, but when its used against you (WMD, anyone? 911 attack evidence, anyone?) well ... thats a different story ...
Lets just let it rest. You're not gonna learn anything, and you're not gonna teach me anything.
... the only thing stopping me from using my Clie for everything - email, phone, watching TV, etc. - is *a complete lack of software*.
Hardware-wise, the Clie NX70V - while being a little outdated by now - has everything I need in order to converge all my devices into one... but it appears that Sony don't want that to happen, and have done everything they can to ensure their Video/Audio API is broken for this use.
A politician has a job, just like you. Should you be bagged and tagged to make sure you arent talking to competitors.
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A politicians job is far more important than mine. It has its risks, it has its responsibilities.
Politicians should be held accountable for every single thing they do while they are on the job. Its the only way to ensure we -the people- don't get screwed
Typical American justification for crime. "There was no law against it, therefore it wasn't a crime."
That there is the end of your Empire, mate.
ermmm... HoD occurred *after* the end of hostilities was declared by the US. *after*
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And whether or not the few thousand women and children who were killed in that 'raid' were a 'retreating army' certainly is a matter of definition
Politicians should be made to wear RFID's from the day they enter office in service of the public, to the day they leave that office.
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"For the people, and of the people" can only be effective if the people keep a track on such people with power
You're right, the US is faaaaar from innocent.
Far, far from innocent.
would use the ICC to bring frivilous charges against various officials in the US.
Ermm... "The Highway of Death" incident, for which Powell, Cheney, Wolfowitz and more are all guilty, is not a frivolous charge. These men *did* commit war crimes, per the international definition, and they *must* be brought to justice.
The only reason the US objects to the ICC is because there is no immunity for these people, whose crimes are well documented outside of the US propaganda machine...
The reason the US opposes the ICC is not because 'US soldiers dont get safety', its because there are existing ICC court orders regarding certain war crimes which the current administration are guilty of committing ...
American propaganda about the ICC *never* includes the small item about Cheney being immediately subject to war crimes prosecution, were the US to ratify the ICC...
The reason America objects to the ICC is that Cheney, Bush Sr., Powell, and half of the current administration would be called up to be prosecuted for war crimes they committed during Gulf War One...
"The Highway of Death" incident comes immediately to mind, but there are other crimes which Powell and co. are responsible for
yeah, right. you know that for sure, right? you've seen the completed investigation that states, unequivocably, that there is evidence that Osama Bin Laden did this?
hey, i do the same, only my slashdot computer is installed 'under the tosscloth', hah hah!
oh you poms and your funny senses of humor and things...
I remember once nagging the sys admins to always make sure that there is a man page ... The DESCRIPTION was the C source ...
So, not only are you working in a cool field, but you're also working with some of the best sysadmins in the world (in my opinion).
Nice.
Guess I'm gonna hit the little pill next to your name, as your post has also rejuvenated a slightly diverted personal inspiration of mine to go back to school and study linguistics.
What are sources for the more interesting field journals/publications worthy of swot - care to make some suggestions?
I'm far from a neo-luddite, I assure you. I've been writing code since 1979, and have pretty much not stopped.
...
I've built computing systems for extremely large corporations, I've even started a few prominent ISP's or two, and now I'm living in industrial Germany working for a synthesizer company.
Something *CAN* be done about technology, and that is discussion. We're discussing it, you and me at least, and if there is at least a small conclusion that we must take a bit more responsibility - as technological people - for how our technology can be mis-used, then that is progress my friend.
True progress, not derived, as most all technological 'advances' are these days
We will not be the ones who benefit from technology being used to alter human perception.
This guy is clearly more concerned with travelling around the world than reading a slashdot post and actually understanding what it says.
..."?
You're talking about me, right, "Mr. This Guy
He must be imagining what, an electrode gun that shoots electrodes into your ears?
Listen, go get your Mom to give yours a good clean, there you go son, and then I'll explain it to you. Ready?
Research on magnetic convolution and the effects on the inner ear as related to human perception of gravity/motion, put in the hands of "The Video Game Industry, Inc." is a -dangerous- move. We have no idea what sort of circumstances such heavy electronics can incur in terms of human mental development. You've seen kids get 'addicted to video games', its a palpable fact, spend hours and hours and hours and hours in front of them, playing.
Shall we add 'sub-electronic pain' to the mix as well, give them pavlovian jolts whenever they're not responding to the correct pre-programmed electronic media-packaged-as-gaming-experience... ?
You think thats wise technology to introduce into the context of the world situation, do you, young fellah?
I am trying to imagine just what the hell he is thinking and how this could possibly be used for crowd control.
You're walking down the street, someone 'important' walks by, the pavement is programmed to throw everyones natural balances, subtly, away from their path.
I give it 2 years before such things are being considered by world governments everywhere for use in so-called 'public' places, just the way other 'loiter-deterrent design' is implemented in park benches, etc.
Besides, the next great crowd control device is microwave-based, and makes everyone feel hot/burning to the skin.
Oh, okay, so I guess it would be okay for you if its microwave then, and actual cooking occurs.
How would affecting our balance help?
Well, in your case, you could put one in your right ear and give yourself at least half a chance of survival.
Making a crowd fall over is not crowd control. Making them leave is.
Making a crowd do anything against their will, whatever the action, is crowd control.
Summary: torpor: full of shit.
Very true, very true...
Sure, you stick it behind your ear today... but in a year, there'll be projectable versions of it, if there aren't already. C'mon, you think even Sony might have something in the 'inner ear sub-magnetics' department, eh?
All I'm saying, and just get this through your head without making any bold assertions of tinhatted'ness about a person you know nothing about, is that its -dangerous- to be flippant about this technology; not least of which in the context of video games, frequently violent ones.
Who knows what sort of mess we could make of someones mental growth with things like this around, and who knows if sane, ordered societies are going to "always" be around to prevent their use?
Maybe its too big a question to pose on slashdot, though, I'll grant that
Uhhh... anywhere you want to control a mass of people, this technology can be used.
Put it in the streets, use it for 'crowd control' in riot situations, make it a 'requirement for accomodating the needs of blind people' in sporting arena's, etc.
All I'm saying is we shouldn't be so blase about altering human perception with technology, or making cheap the means to do so... because in 20 years time, who is to say a whole different and radically inclined group of people aren't going to be able to use it for their purposes?
And just because you think that thinking that people are out to get you is paranoid or fantastic, doesn't mean that I shouldn't exercise my right (and skills) to accurately predict when such is the case.
Getting it wrong is fine. If I'm paranoid, that means I'm wrong, and I'd be glad to be wrong.
But sooner or later, mark my words, this technology will do bad things to the human species, with long-term effects.
We should not be so blase about human perception, or the means - electronic (and thus cheap), or otherwise - used to alter it forcefully under the control of another.
It is unwise, to say the least...
Slashdot certainly got its share of the tin foil hat brigade but this guy takes the cake.
... stop reading slashdot and do a little studying, fruitcake.
/. archives when the whole world is a wirehead...)
Umm.. who exactly are you talking to in your third person narrative?
For the record, I've been around the globe twice, lived (and am living) in many foreign lands, and worked my ass off the whole way round. I'm no tin-foil type, but also, I'm not clueless: I've seen what big business (good and bad) can do to people. In many more places than just one.
If you don't understand why this technology could be used against you, by people with no scruples, well then
(Be sure to check back on the
That sucks.
Look for this technology being used in crowd control situations.
Avoid association with any groups - government or otherwise - who allow, condone, promote, or actively use this technology.
It is bad news to make human perception such a commodity. This path can only lead to bad things being done by people with no scruples.
It certainly takes a special kind of person to look at the plane that he built and say to himself "Yes, technically it can perform this task." and completely ignore the other voice in his soul saying "Although perhaps I should not force my luck."
...
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I suppose you could say that its the same kind of person who would build their own server system out of parts, turn it on, and let a few million people at it
Not the same order of magnitude, nor degree of responsibility, perhaps, but maybe the same kind
As a geek, I'm highly interested in the logistics and intrigue of doing something such as flying oneself around the world, 3 times, in a plane I've built lovingly with my own hands.
What VPN's can you run under Linux and OSX and Windows?
What modern systems have taken the place of patronage?
... by 'we', I mean all of the musicians/artists that make up the community, and we support the costs of running things ourselves.
...
At ampfea.org we've banded together
There are quite a few patrons in our mix, let me tell you.
Philanthropists, too.
And a lot of good free music, incidentally
Its a Markup Language, not 'meta-language' ... well, okay, so yeah HTML is meta- to SGML, okay...
But still. It is a language, its just that it describes markup, not application.