Well you proved the point. For Mac users decent means having a native Mac OS X user interface FOLLOWING APPLE'S UI GUIDELINES, and not only having sort of Aqua looking buttons. You know the Mac interface is not about looks, it's about functionality and there I have to admit native MS Office is the lesser evil, though still far from well done.
The problem at the time was having only 640k base memor, which killed off any advantages. I remember bragging with friend about who can release the most base memory by manually optimizing config.sys and autoexec.bat.
I came to the PC from the Amiga and I really never stopped wondering what a shitty platform the intel platform was.
They don't make use of Rendezvous, so it get's a big pain in the ass if your clients use DHCP on the LAN.
And Remote Desktop does much more than VNC. You can send files, the admin can display his/her screen on several other people's screens (great for teaching), look at several remote screens at the same time, force reboot machines, put remote machines to sleep, wake machines up from sleep, etc.
So because the userland is from BSD it's a BSD fork, despite the fact that the kernel is based on Mach?
With your logic if I take all the userland utilities from Linux (which are basically GNU) don't use the kernel but rather use a Mach based kernel then I have created a Linux fork?
I guess you've never heard that 10.3 (Panther) is the current OS version. And running OS X Server isn't all that difficult.
On OS X Server setting up Samba and have all Windows machines authenticate via OS X takes an hour or two (the install itself taking most of the time). And it takes no expert to do that.
most of the open source software with a recompile or via fink
a Unix that even your grandmother can use
not on Windows, not on Linux
I can run Microsoft office, while browsing the web using Lynx in a Terminal Window, use Adobe's great software and also run KDE, KOffice (betas recompiled using the native QT port now even run natively and don't require X11) and all the other goodies (btw even MPlayer is better on OS X http://mplayerosx.sf.net)
The problem is that Windows is not a very viable platform for clustering. Even (or especially) the new G5s on Mac OS X beat the shit out of it (see Virginia Tech Cluster)
That's just not true. Premier was never competition to Final Cut Pro, because it never even was in the same league. Basically all video editing apps sucked a big banana before FCP came out.
Pro's were using Avid and that's that. Then Apple came with FCP and Adobe got pissed? Because their 3rd grade product Premiere got declassified even more?
Everybody is bitching about how good competition for the market is, but once they get competition they start crying foul. What DO you want it?
I was using the last version of Fireworks mainly for interface design for CD-ROMs etc. The great thing is that it can use graphics as Symbols just as in Flash (it's like a symbolic link to graphic object). This rules.
The problem was that the Mac version of Fireworks MX (not 2004) was very slow, especially when opening large images for print, so it was useless for that. It also sucked when it comes to double-byte languages (when trying to cut an paste Japanese text it always fucked up) which I need to use a lot because I live and work in Japan.
With Adobe's English version I never had any problems using Japanese and I get full typographical control over Japanese text (mojigumi, kinsoku shori etc.) which Macromedia at least doesn't provide in their English products. Even Flash MX was a disaster with Japanese until they finally fixed it in MX 2004. With Flash MX you had some Kanji suddenly get mangled into different Kanji when exporting to swf and such.
It looks that with their MX 2004 series Macromedia has changed policies and they actually do fix bugs. Before they only in the rarest occasions did bother to provide any updates or bugfixes even with such glaring bugs as the Flash MX disaster with Japanese.
Does the average user buy or use Photoshop? No? Well, DUH!
I wasn't talking about the average user I was saying that the GIMP isn't in the same league as Photoshop despite non designers--who don't know what the fuck they're talking about--always saying it's just as good as Photoshop.
So next when I say that Movie Maker isn't in the same league as Shake, you're gonna ask me again if the average user uses Shake's features? Well, hell, NO! The average user doesn't even use the software nor can afford to buy it, for christ's sake!
Does it do CMYK and proper colour correction, does it use ICC profiles? No? Well, then it's not even in the same league with Photoshop. Without that functionality it's not even a professional tool for graphic designers.
Again I find GIMP a great tool, but please don't say it's just as good as Photoshop. You're just embarassing yourself.
Well then you have never seriously worked with Photoshop. Really the GIMP is a remarkable piece of software, but saying it's a replacement for Photoshop is like saying Windows 3.1 is actually a great replacement for Mac OS X.
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Well, that's what they always say about Windows and it never became true, so why should we believe them this time?
and stop whining.
Maybe just fast-food. Most of it is completely synthetic anyway, as we all know.
They'll very quickly grow some tits and start smelling like fish. That works for many male humans.
No, to get the smell right they'll have to be located on Uranus.
Linear video editing works only in hardware:
2+ decks and a bunch of cables (and a lot of patience).
Well you proved the point. For Mac users decent means having a native Mac OS X user interface FOLLOWING APPLE'S UI GUIDELINES, and not only having sort of Aqua looking buttons. You know the Mac interface is not about looks, it's about functionality and there I have to admit native MS Office is the lesser evil, though still far from well done.
The problem at the time was having only 640k base memor, which killed off any advantages. I remember bragging with friend about who can release the most base memory by manually optimizing config.sys and autoexec.bat.
I came to the PC from the Amiga and I really never stopped wondering what a shitty platform the intel platform was.
It actually means "Built on NeanderThal technology", you know stones and bones and such...
Slashdot?
It would roll off your tongue even better, if you'd spell it right.
The guy's name is Beowulf.
This is wrong:
They don't make use of Rendezvous, so it get's a big pain in the ass if your clients use DHCP on the LAN.
And Remote Desktop does much more than VNC. You can send files, the admin can display his/her screen on several other people's screens (great for teaching), look at several remote screens at the same time, force reboot machines, put remote machines to sleep, wake machines up from sleep, etc.
Someone who accuses Mac users??
So because the userland is from BSD it's a BSD fork, despite the fact that the kernel is based on Mach?
With your logic if I take all the userland utilities from Linux (which are basically GNU) don't use the kernel but rather use a Mach based kernel then I have created a Linux fork?
Don't make me laugh.
Nothing, they use OpenLDAP for that now. DUH.
I guess you've never heard that 10.3 (Panther) is the current OS version. And running OS X Server isn't all that difficult.
On OS X Server setting up Samba and have all Windows machines authenticate via OS X takes an hour or two (the install itself taking most of the time). And it takes no expert to do that.
Hmm, funny I just saw Intel selling those Pentium M's at about 1,5 GHz and telling everyone that after all MHz doesn't matter.
;-)
Wow. Was Apple always right???
more or less all of the big commercial software
lots of high quality shareware & freeware
most of the open source software with a recompile or via fink
a Unix that even your grandmother can use
not on Windows, not on Linux
I can run Microsoft office, while browsing the web using Lynx in a Terminal Window, use Adobe's great software and also run KDE, KOffice (betas recompiled using the native QT port now even run natively and don't require X11) and all the other goodies (btw even MPlayer is better on OS X http://mplayerosx.sf.net)
The problem is that Windows is not a very viable platform for clustering. Even (or especially) the new G5s on Mac OS X beat the shit out of it (see Virginia Tech Cluster)
That's just not true. Premier was never competition to Final Cut Pro, because it never even was in the same league. Basically all video editing apps sucked a big banana before FCP came out.
Pro's were using Avid and that's that. Then Apple came with FCP and Adobe got pissed? Because their 3rd grade product Premiere got declassified even more?
Everybody is bitching about how good competition for the market is, but once they get competition they start crying foul. What DO you want it?
I was using the last version of Fireworks mainly for interface design for CD-ROMs etc. The great thing is that it can use graphics as Symbols just as in Flash (it's like a symbolic link to graphic object). This rules.
The problem was that the Mac version of Fireworks MX (not 2004) was very slow, especially when opening large images for print, so it was useless for that. It also sucked when it comes to double-byte languages (when trying to cut an paste Japanese text it always fucked up) which I need to use a lot because I live and work in Japan.
With Adobe's English version I never had any problems using Japanese and I get full typographical control over Japanese text (mojigumi, kinsoku shori etc.) which Macromedia at least doesn't provide in their English products. Even Flash MX was a disaster with Japanese until they finally fixed it in MX 2004. With Flash MX you had some Kanji suddenly get mangled into different Kanji when exporting to swf and such.
It looks that with their MX 2004 series Macromedia has changed policies and they actually do fix bugs. Before they only in the rarest occasions did bother to provide any updates or bugfixes even with such glaring bugs as the Flash MX disaster with Japanese.
Does the average user buy or use Photoshop? No? Well, DUH!
I wasn't talking about the average user I was saying that the GIMP isn't in the same league as Photoshop despite non designers--who don't know what the fuck they're talking about--always saying it's just as good as Photoshop.
So next when I say that Movie Maker isn't in the same league as Shake, you're gonna ask me again if the average user uses Shake's features? Well, hell, NO! The average user doesn't even use the software nor can afford to buy it, for christ's sake!
Does it do CMYK and proper colour correction, does it use ICC profiles? No?
Well, then it's not even in the same league with Photoshop. Without that functionality it's not even a professional tool for graphic designers.
Again I find GIMP a great tool, but please don't say it's just as good as Photoshop. You're just embarassing yourself.
Well they are silly. And they're pissing off their Mac user base left and right because most of their Mac products stink worse with every release.
Maybe that's the reason why Adobe is gaining so many customers, their products stink less (but they're lacking recently, to be honest).
Well then you have never seriously worked with Photoshop. Really the GIMP is a remarkable piece of software, but saying it's a replacement for Photoshop is like saying Windows 3.1 is actually a great replacement for Mac OS X.
It think it's using ditto with the -rsrc flag, to keep the resource forks intact.