According to File>Preferences>About "WASTE v1.0b Copyright (C) 2003 Nullsoft, Inc." So that seems to be that. Nullsoft owns the copyright and had sole ability to release WASTE under the GPL. No further questions.
If you downloaded or otherwise obtained a copy of the Software, you acquired no lawful rights to the Software and must destroy any and all copies of the Software, including by deleting it from your computer. What a WASTE!
I've been slowly losing my vision and was wondering what was actually causing it. It's getting so bad I've had to set my fonts to 18 minimum. So I've been wondering if it's from streigning in front of a CRT for 10 hours at a time. Turns out I just needed to clean my screen from all the pr0n juice. budumdum.
No, but he's a coder, he may be very pragmatic about the whole ordeal, you're putting him in a political position you'd like to imagine he's in. But that may not be the case. Not everyone wants to be Jesus (h.christ). I was simply giving amateur legal advice because I believe answering those questions, no matter what his response may be, will come back to haunt him. There's no need to feed the fire, he's already going to end up a civil target for the RI/MPAA. I was simply asking him to not go out and "take one for the team." Unless of course, that's what he wants to do, in which case, ignore this warning and go for it. But again, not all of us want to be this guy:
This is what I think we need. This is a "this post" meets "that post" post.:) We need a Mozilla Firebird addon and an IE plugin for.torrent files. We also need mod_torrent for apache. Your files are server per usual to non-torrent browsers, but apache automatically makes.torrents of each directory, serving them as such to the enabled browsers. Good bye/. effect. As a bonus, not using apache with mod_torrent to server your sites would be considered abjectly stupid.
Whether or not it is the intention of this poster, the questions are loaded with traps the MPAA/RIAA would love to use against you in court. BTW, you really should start a legal fund raiser of some sort. You WILL end up in court, because you WILL be made an example of. On the flipside, if we can all stand behind you when that happens, it will be us making examples of whomever comes after you. Of course, I don't know you personally, but I believe you are a Nederlander. That's good. Stay there, and for god's sake don't set foot on US soil for a while and maybe they can't get you into court in the first place. I know this sounds paranoid, but look at the way SCO tried using arbitrary old quotes from RMS, ESR and even Almighty Bruce to "smear" them here: http://www.sco.com/scosource/quotes_from_leaders.h tml The same thing is becoming a court tactic to attempt to show cause, i.e. Napster pretty much lost because of the "especially since they are exchanging pirated music" quote: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-241977.html?tag=rn So, anyway, Bram, thank you for the technology, sorry I sound so conspirist.:)
Every day more and more BT clients are popping-up, with features not originally intended for the protocol. Do you feel that these features, such as multi-tracker search features, are doomed to kill "the network?" On the flipside, what are your thoughts on other, "classic p2p" clients now incorporating BT technology (heh, IANAM*), such as the new Shareaza beta? And I know I'm cheating here, but:
What can you, me, or we as a community do to ensure that BT stays pure, or at least, survives in it's original, intended state?
Carmac seems to be implying that the underpinnings of the gaming industry are becoming very stable, and mature. Not to put words in his mouth, but this has to happen. In my opinion the PC industry is plateauing, at least for the time being. The next couple-few years, we'll all have 3-5GHz boxes somewhere, but that will take a while. Until that saturation happens, the software industry isn't going to be able to write code to utilize that speed. When they do start utilizing it regularly we'll see the next push in PC sales and faster/better chips and cpus. So my questions are thus: Isn't this the time we should really be seeing a standardization of non-proprietary or possible RAND 3D engines, modular, with no "base genre" in mind? Something along the lines of Crystal Space (i know, i know, but it's promising...) along with standard physics models and interchangeable modules for different gaming rules, scripting languages and so forth? And Secondly (thirdly, fourthly?), if it is possible to do something like the above, is it not possible that one of the evolutionary benefits would be a large indy scene. Maybe even a scene where the "publishers" are the creators of the engine. As an example of what I mean, let's say that Rockstar Games wasn't part of a super-hyper-mega-corp, or split off. They have this great game that certainly can inspire the best game devs (GTA3 engine, duh.), and want to allow innovation in game design, but don't want possible competition for GTA4 or whathaveyou. They start taking auditions, putting together a company structure not unlike the music and movie business, seeking indy game developers with fresh ideas. They MAYBE give the "pitches" they like some seed money, but basically, put the financial risk on the new developer and only offer him the PS dev tools and engine (under NDA maybe) to use for free. In return, Rockstar publishes the game and gives it a test run, hosting there own website and trying to develop a "indy" community. The website would sell the indy titles for inexpensive (read around $10-$15, most of which goes to the artist/dev team) prices, hoping to find a diamond in the rough. When a game is found to be high quality and/or popular with the community Rockstar then deepens its pockets and does a mass printing and PR campaign, pushing it to the larger public at regular console prices. Eventually everyone would want in on the indy scene and creativity will have crept back into the game scene, if it was ever REALLY there to begin with. Note, I used GTA3 as an example, i'm not implying that its engine is anywhere near the quality I really mean at the beginning of my post.
Is it coincidence or some sort of nVidia inside joke that changing the name of the Dawn executable (fairy.exe iirc) http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=demo_dawn to quake3.exe removes those pesky leaves, revealing her suptle nature, and that renaming it to 3dmark2003.exe removes the leaves and her wings? Is the inside joke that they leave "certain things out" of quake3 and 3dmark? Does the government know of the existence of aliens and wormhole portals to other worlds?
I know this is a dead conversation and you'll probably never read it, but I decided to reply regardless. I was asking a question. I start my post with two questions, then explained my reasoning behind my asking. You started your post with an insult. I don't know a whole lot about the stock market, admitedly; but I do know what a split is and that what you said was correct. However, it doesn't answer my question. I also know he didn't flood the market. There are over 12B shares of MSFT, I was only suggesting that Ballmer selling 10% of his personal shares could have other negetive effects on the price of the stock, but it's moot. You ended with another insult, and one that suggests you'd like to censor me. My suggestion to you would be this, think about who you are as a person before you post.
Bah! Now you've done it. Now I gotta cfdisk and create a partition that wont choke the w2k installer. Then I gotta go hunting for my w2k backup disk (from work, of course), and install it on this thing. Then I gotta do even more hunting for my HL disks (heh, well actually i just looked over to my left and there it was, very strange). You've just created at least an hour of pain and misery 'til I can successfully watch the openning sequence and step off that subway car, only to try to find some damned way to kick that security guard in the nuts before he opens the door. Damn you! Yes, I know, I know, it works in wine, that'd take even longer than installing w2k most likely. But maybe tomorrow I'll use the GetWineX scripts, which are really nice. But damned if you didn't leave me with an empty feeling that must be immediately remedied. Thanks a lot you fargin icehole;) BTW, if you're about to google for GetWineX dont bother... http://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html t here ya go!
That's interesting, and it's the first thing I thought of. But wouldn't that make it illegal? Isn't that what the insider trading laws are supposed to prevent? Ballmer selling 10% of his shares only to buy it back next time it splits because he has prior knowledge of the split would be highly illegal and rather dubious. With a side benefit being (possibly) lowering the $50 value prior to the split due to "flooding," which is bad for the other stockholders and potentially makes Ballmer even more money.
I think you bring up vaild points. Of course, here at/. you'll be labelled a satanist or somesuch and decided it would be better to post that AC; but I can appreciate you sort of putting your neck out to say something unpleasant. This is the current view of thousands and thousands of programmers and probably 99% (yes these are guesses) of proprietary software distributors and creators. The GPL has TONS of "legal loopholes" making it an impossibility for many companies, simply because of the ambiguity of the rhetoric, which leads to fears that have NOT been answered satisfactorily (i.e. in US court). The FSF needs to get one of these cases into court and hash through it, no matter what the outcome. Unfortunately, I think the FSF may have the same fears that said companies have; afraid they're going to lose. So instead they throw their weight around via the same barking litigators every time until the infringer submits and concedes. Seems kinda suspicious that they haven't made sure that it's gotten to court yet. Oh, and what loopholes? Consider this: I use Evolution and GTK, and port it to win32 calling it RevolutionE or something. I give you all the licenses and copyright notices and don't distribute the sources online or in the products shrink-wrapped box-set. It's fine because I gave you the GPL which lets you know you can request the sources from me. Go ahead. Request them. I'll mail the sources when I get around to it, like in say three years (the same arbitrary time the GPL states the offer needs to be good for). Law suit? Go ahead, I'll keep you spinning for quite a while, let's say three years, and right before we go to court everyone who has ever requested the source will get a nice letter in the mail apologizing for the delay, with a copy of all the source on audio tape, paper copy, take your choice. I've just (for all intents and purposes) hijacked the GPL source code for three years, and made a lot of money selling RevolutionE.
I think you gave away the main trait of those that dig Buffy, versus those that don't. It's summed-up in one word: "Mythos." Mythos is a word commonly used to describe H.P. Lovecraft-style storylines. The "Cthulhu Mythos" is typically used to describe these types of stories. But that doesn't really explain why it's considered so good. It is, however, a suitabe explanation of Buffy vs Charmed, and I have the sneaking suspicion that if you look at the shows that/.ers like, they'd fall into this similar "mythos" storytelling genre. My problem with this type of thought is this: Why don't you all watch that piece of crap daytime soap that centers around the "vampire mythos"? My mother watches it all the time, and she's facinated by it. She friggin time-shifts the thing (makes me sick, really). I find it hard to believe that the writing in Port Charles is any less believeable or fun, or "out there" as Buffy, which leads me to believe the one thing it's lacking truely is Sarah Michelle Gellar.
Coca-Cola has a lot of affiliates. They don't do it, because the timing isn't there yet, but if "legitimate" commercial e-mail gets legislative protection of this type you can expect all of those affiliates to start bombarding you regularly. Maybe not Coca-Cola, but what about the USPS, which is now a psuedo-private corporation? Miller Bottling Company? Kraft? ABC, NBC, Disney, or worse... FOX? Now i'm creeping myself out.
They say they are here; buy clearly you (boom!) see that they (boom!) are not. They are (boom!) liars and we shall choke them with their small intestes sending (pow!) them to hell (bang!), of all them to (krutch! [krutch?]) hell. I talk English better than you. Mohamed Sayed Al-saCowboyNeil* (...boom!)
I just modded 3 posts in this forum; all of which will probably be/dev/nul and void. You just hit the nail on the head with this statement: what's the use of an OS that doesn't have the apps that caused you to get a computer in the first place?
I can't imagine a better way to describe why Linux addoption hasn't become the norm; and like the former owner of mp3.com, I have a vested intereset in seeing Linux used as a desktop OS.
lol, i just watched episode 2 yesterday! Great special effects brought to us by the BBC. Zaphod looks more like a he has a dead conjoined twin on his shoulder rather than an extra head.
If you look at the pricing structure that SBC is suggesting, it's clear what they want: If your company makes $100k they want $527. That's 0.5%. Imagine if you could have 0.5% of all online revenue...
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According to File>Preferences>About
"WASTE v1.0b
Copyright (C) 2003 Nullsoft, Inc."
So that seems to be that. Nullsoft owns the copyright and had sole ability to release WASTE under the GPL. No further questions.
If you downloaded or otherwise obtained a copy of the Software, you acquired no lawful rights to the Software and must destroy any and all copies of the Software, including by deleting it from your computer. What a WASTE!
I've been slowly losing my vision and was wondering what was actually causing it. It's getting so bad I've had to set my fonts to 18 minimum. So I've been wondering if it's from streigning in front of a CRT for 10 hours at a time. Turns out I just needed to clean my screen from all the pr0n juice.
budumdum.
No, but he's a coder, he may be very pragmatic about the whole ordeal, you're putting him in a political position you'd like to imagine he's in. But that may not be the case. Not everyone wants to be Jesus (h.christ). I was simply giving amateur legal advice because I believe answering those questions, no matter what his response may be, will come back to haunt him. There's no need to feed the fire, he's already going to end up a civil target for the RI/MPAA. I was simply asking him to not go out and "take one for the team." Unless of course, that's what he wants to do, in which case, ignore this warning and go for it. But again, not all of us want to be this guy:
This is what I think we need. This is a "this post" meets "that post" post. :) .torrent files. We also need mod_torrent for apache. Your files are server per usual to non-torrent browsers, but apache automatically makes .torrents of each directory, serving them as such to the enabled browsers. Good bye /. effect. As a bonus, not using apache with mod_torrent to server your sites would be considered abjectly stupid.
We need a Mozilla Firebird addon and an IE plugin for
Whether or not it is the intention of this poster, the questions are loaded with traps the MPAA/RIAA would love to use against you in court. BTW, you really should start a legal fund raiser of some sort. You WILL end up in court, because you WILL be made an example of. On the flipside, if we can all stand behind you when that happens, it will be us making examples of whomever comes after you. Of course, I don't know you personally, but I believe you are a Nederlander. That's good. Stay there, and for god's sake don't set foot on US soil for a while and maybe they can't get you into court in the first place.h tml
So, anyway, Bram, thank you for the technology, sorry I sound so conspirist. :)
I know this sounds paranoid, but look at the way SCO tried using arbitrary old quotes from RMS, ESR and even Almighty Bruce to "smear" them here: http://www.sco.com/scosource/quotes_from_leaders.
The same thing is becoming a court tactic to attempt to show cause, i.e. Napster pretty much lost because of the "especially since they are exchanging pirated music" quote: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-241977.html?tag=rn
* I Am Not A Marketer
Every day more and more BT clients are popping-up, with features not originally intended for the protocol. Do you feel that these features, such as multi-tracker search features, are doomed to kill "the network?" On the flipside, what are your thoughts on other, "classic p2p" clients now incorporating BT technology (heh, IANAM*), such as the new Shareaza beta?
And I know I'm cheating here, but:
What can you, me, or we as a community do to ensure that BT stays pure, or at least, survives in it's original, intended state?
Carmac seems to be implying that the underpinnings of the gaming industry are becoming very stable, and mature. Not to put words in his mouth, but this has to happen. In my opinion the PC industry is plateauing, at least for the time being. The next couple-few years, we'll all have 3-5GHz boxes somewhere, but that will take a while. Until that saturation happens, the software industry isn't going to be able to write code to utilize that speed. When they do start utilizing it regularly we'll see the next push in PC sales and faster/better chips and cpus.
So my questions are thus: Isn't this the time we should really be seeing a standardization of non-proprietary or possible RAND 3D engines, modular, with no "base genre" in mind? Something along the lines of Crystal Space (i know, i know, but it's promising...) along with standard physics models and interchangeable modules for different gaming rules, scripting languages and so forth?
And Secondly (thirdly, fourthly?), if it is possible to do something like the above, is it not possible that one of the evolutionary benefits would be a large indy scene. Maybe even a scene where the "publishers" are the creators of the engine. As an example of what I mean, let's say that Rockstar Games wasn't part of a super-hyper-mega-corp, or split off. They have this great game that certainly can inspire the best game devs (GTA3 engine, duh.), and want to allow innovation in game design, but don't want possible competition for GTA4 or whathaveyou. They start taking auditions, putting together a company structure not unlike the music and movie business, seeking indy game developers with fresh ideas. They MAYBE give the "pitches" they like some seed money, but basically, put the financial risk on the new developer and only offer him the PS dev tools and engine (under NDA maybe) to use for free. In return, Rockstar publishes the game and gives it a test run, hosting there own website and trying to develop a "indy" community. The website would sell the indy titles for inexpensive (read around $10-$15, most of which goes to the artist/dev team) prices, hoping to find a diamond in the rough. When a game is found to be high quality and/or popular with the community Rockstar then deepens its pockets and does a mass printing and PR campaign, pushing it to the larger public at regular console prices. Eventually everyone would want in on the indy scene and creativity will have crept back into the game scene, if it was ever REALLY there to begin with.
Note, I used GTA3 as an example, i'm not implying that its engine is anywhere near the quality I really mean at the beginning of my post.
Is it coincidence or some sort of nVidia inside joke that changing the name of the Dawn executable (fairy.exe iirc) http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=demo_dawn
to quake3.exe removes those pesky leaves, revealing her suptle nature, and that renaming it to 3dmark2003.exe removes the leaves and her wings? Is the inside joke that they leave "certain things out" of quake3 and 3dmark? Does the government know of the existence of aliens and wormhole portals to other worlds?
I know this is a dead conversation and you'll probably never read it, but I decided to reply regardless. I was asking a question. I start my post with two questions, then explained my reasoning behind my asking.
You started your post with an insult. I don't know a whole lot about the stock market, admitedly; but I do know what a split is and that what you said was correct. However, it doesn't answer my question. I also know he didn't flood the market. There are over 12B shares of MSFT, I was only suggesting that Ballmer selling 10% of his personal shares could have other negetive effects on the price of the stock, but it's moot. You ended with another insult, and one that suggests you'd like to censor me. My suggestion to you would be this, think about who you are as a person before you post.
Bah! Now you've done it. Now I gotta cfdisk and create a partition that wont choke the w2k installer. Then I gotta go hunting for my w2k backup disk (from work, of course), and install it on this thing. Then I gotta do even more hunting for my HL disks (heh, well actually i just looked over to my left and there it was, very strange). You've just created at least an hour of pain and misery 'til I can successfully watch the openning sequence and step off that subway car, only to try to find some damned way to kick that security guard in the nuts before he opens the door. Damn you! ;)
t here ya go!
Yes, I know, I know, it works in wine, that'd take even longer than installing w2k most likely. But maybe tomorrow I'll use the GetWineX scripts, which are really nice. But damned if you didn't leave me with an empty feeling that must be immediately remedied. Thanks a lot you fargin icehole
BTW, if you're about to google for GetWineX dont bother... http://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html
That's interesting, and it's the first thing I thought of. But wouldn't that make it illegal? Isn't that what the insider trading laws are supposed to prevent? Ballmer selling 10% of his shares only to buy it back next time it splits because he has prior knowledge of the split would be highly illegal and rather dubious. With a side benefit being (possibly) lowering the $50 value prior to the split due to "flooding," which is bad for the other stockholders and potentially makes Ballmer even more money.
I think you bring up vaild points. Of course, here at /. you'll be labelled a satanist or somesuch and decided it would be better to post that AC; but I can appreciate you sort of putting your neck out to say something unpleasant.
This is the current view of thousands and thousands of programmers and probably 99% (yes these are guesses) of proprietary software distributors and creators. The GPL has TONS of "legal loopholes" making it an impossibility for many companies, simply because of the ambiguity of the rhetoric, which leads to fears that have NOT been answered satisfactorily (i.e. in US court). The FSF needs to get one of these cases into court and hash through it, no matter what the outcome. Unfortunately, I think the FSF may have the same fears that said companies have; afraid they're going to lose. So instead they throw their weight around via the same barking litigators every time until the infringer submits and concedes. Seems kinda suspicious that they haven't made sure that it's gotten to court yet.
Oh, and what loopholes?
Consider this: I use Evolution and GTK, and port it to win32 calling it RevolutionE or something. I give you all the licenses and copyright notices and don't distribute the sources online or in the products shrink-wrapped box-set. It's fine because I gave you the GPL which lets you know you can request the sources from me. Go ahead. Request them. I'll mail the sources when I get around to it, like in say three years (the same arbitrary time the GPL states the offer needs to be good for). Law suit? Go ahead, I'll keep you spinning for quite a while, let's say three years, and right before we go to court everyone who has ever requested the source will get a nice letter in the mail apologizing for the delay, with a copy of all the source on audio tape, paper copy, take your choice.
I've just (for all intents and purposes) hijacked the GPL source code for three years, and made a lot of money selling RevolutionE.
or to point the requestee to the original author of the source code used, if you didn't do any modifications yourself.
I think it's called Port Charles, a spin-off from General Hospital that airs at 11am (here in Chicago anyway)
I think you gave away the main trait of those that dig Buffy, versus those that don't. It's summed-up in one word: "Mythos." Mythos is a word commonly used to describe H.P. Lovecraft-style storylines. The "Cthulhu Mythos" is typically used to describe these types of stories. /.ers like, they'd fall into this similar "mythos" storytelling genre.
But that doesn't really explain why it's considered so good. It is, however, a suitabe explanation of Buffy vs Charmed, and I have the sneaking suspicion that if you look at the shows that
My problem with this type of thought is this:
Why don't you all watch that piece of crap daytime soap that centers around the "vampire mythos"? My mother watches it all the time, and she's facinated by it. She friggin time-shifts the thing (makes me sick, really). I find it hard to believe that the writing in Port Charles is any less believeable or fun, or "out there" as Buffy, which leads me to believe the one thing it's lacking truely is Sarah Michelle Gellar.
http://ukraine-mobi.4.com1.ru/buffy.the.vampire.sl ayer.s07e22.chosen-ftv.torrent :)
There's the torrent. Now you can watch it whenever you want
http://gentoo.twobit.net/misc/aa-20030513.iso.torr ent
As soon as i finish the download and get America's Army extracted from cloop, I'll pack it into Loki's installer.
Coca-Cola has a lot of affiliates. They don't do it, because the timing isn't there yet, but if "legitimate" commercial e-mail gets legislative protection of this type you can expect all of those affiliates to start bombarding you regularly. Maybe not Coca-Cola, but what about the USPS, which is now a psuedo-private corporation? Miller Bottling Company? Kraft? ABC, NBC, Disney, or worse... FOX? Now i'm creeping myself out.
They say they are here; buy clearly you (boom!) see that they (boom!) are not. They are (boom!) liars and we shall choke them with their small intestes sending (pow!) them to hell (bang!), of all them to (krutch! [krutch?]) hell. I talk English better than you.
Mohamed Sayed Al-saCowboyNeil* (...boom!)
*or something like that, leave me alone I'M DRUNK
I just modded 3 posts in this forum; all of which will probably be /dev/nul and void. You just hit the nail on the head with this statement:
what's the use of an OS that doesn't have the apps that caused you to get a computer in the first place?
I can't imagine a better way to describe why Linux addoption hasn't become the norm; and like the former owner of mp3.com, I have a vested intereset in seeing Linux used as a desktop OS.
lol, i just watched episode 2 yesterday! Great special effects brought to us by the BBC. Zaphod looks more like a he has a dead conjoined twin on his shoulder rather than an extra head.
If you look at the pricing structure that SBC is suggesting, it's clear what they want:
If your company makes $100k they want $527.
That's 0.5%. Imagine if you could have 0.5% of all online revenue...
subtract a letter from WNT and what do you get?
that's right folks: VMS