I think you'll find the good old USA had a system of aparteid right up until the 1960s! Some would say current drug laws etc are in fact defacto aparteid.
And then there was slavery before that...
Australia also had aparteid, and the Europeans basically invented slave trading. While the Arabs currently carry on this fine tradition in Southern Sudan.
I'm not defending South African aparteid, but lets not rewrite history "BlackHawkDown" style, and pretend it was only them!
I've just installed Mandrake 8.1 and KDE. I'm know a fair bit about computers and like exploring, but I'm by no means "technical". The install of Mandrake and the desktop makes windows look clunky.
I know it is fashionable on/. to be 'ultra-reasonable' or 'sensible' and praise Microsoft while dissin' Linux, but give credit where credit is due. Linux desktop looks fantastic and doesn't treat the user like they're retarded!
Most people in my office know virtually nothing about windows. They just don't get it, but they've never been encouraged to try and get it. People aren't stupid, but if you treat them stupid like Microsoft does, then they will be lazy and be stupid. Scarying people by telling them that they've "performed an illegal operation" does not encourage people to explore the desktop and become a "power user".
"He's a celebrated linguist, not a political thinker."
Chomsky is an intellectual in the true meaning of the word. Not only is he brilliant in his academic field , but he speaks up for those with no voice and articulates for those who can not. This is the mark of a true intellectual, not some fat assed scientist who gets paid to sit on defence panels working out how to justify the power of the already powerful!
You are dismissing a man whose gone face-to-face with people like Foucult!!! He is also not afraid to take on those on the so-called LEFT over matters of principal. Defending a Nazi apologists right to free speech a while ago.
"He has so much emotional hatred of the United States that it clouds his thinking."
Chomsky contantly sites independent sources to back up his claims (if anything he sites too often making it difficult to follow his argument). This is precisely because he wants to show that what he says actually happens, and that what most people hear (or don't hear) is not the whole truth... indeed it is "manufactured".
Indeed it seems to me that your socialised emotional love of the United States (yeah, wave that flag) blinds you to what your country actually does both domestically and internationally.
Well I just happen to think that science, astronomy and the quest for knowledge is a better "pet interest" than building killing devices and using them on peasants in the third world while waving the "stars and stripes" so god damn close to your face that anyone who disagrees or dares to point out US hyprocrisy is part of the imaginary "Evil Axis".
Imagine how many space probes the $50 billion extra, that George W wants to spend on making bombs and guns, could build and launch.
The people in charge of this planet must be stupid. They devote all our resources to killing eachother or making crap TV programs and holywood schlock when they could be funding planetary exploration.
Try justifying this expenditure to a child interested in astronomy.
All those dumb American flags everyone bought after s11 could probably fund an inter-planetary probe... It's like the whole world is navel gazing when there is so much to see.
then inovation would die. I E only exists today because Netscape innovated. Microsft Media PLayer only eixts today because of Winamp/real player. M$ instant messanger thingy only eixts because of ICQ.
Hell windows only exists because of Apple!
Basically M$ does not innovate, rather it stifles innovation. This is why is should be broken up!
IF we all thought like you then we'd say that DOS was good enough, why bother trying to have a market that bothered to do more!
Just imagine what kind of software and OS's we'd be using now if M$ hadn't had a monopoly for the last decade! Jesus, its 2002...we should be doing better! Look at hardware, innovation happens so rapidly compared to software.
it isn't a centrally controlled transnationalism. If transnationalism is centrally controlled by Capital (via corporations) or by an elite (via the (Marxist/Leninist)Party - then NOTHING changes for Jo/e Sixpack. (be he coder or labourer) Mr or Mrs Sixpack simply swaps one master for another.
[rant]
What we need is decentralisation of work. Worker control of factories and offices. Anarcho-syndicalism, backed up by technology!
Open Source could be considered an example of this method, perhaps p2p is an example of the future distribution system?
However, this only works with digital information. When you need physical resources, raw materials, parts, phsycial distribution things get more complex and anarcho-syndicalist methods will be strongly opposed and crushed by those who benefit by the status quo and their lackey (govt).
Open source could stand as an example that humans aren't all stupid drones that need to be controlled and 'managed' by institutional hierarchies, but can actually do clever and coordinated things if given the space and opportunity to do so.
[/rant]
I don't agree that technology can be "overanalysed". As Hebert Marcuse, Jurgen Habermas, Lewis Mumford and Lagdan Winner have all pointed out, technology is underanalysed as a social phenomenon.
"Progress" is accepted as inevitable and positive, with very little public debate or analysis over its likely effects on social life and culture.
Sure the "specifics, standards, formats, protocols" are debated within the technological community. But whether the technology itself is desireable is rarely questioned. Usually social analysis of technology happens after it is too late!
... as for your rancher riding the fences... well I bet he goes home and does his banking via a web site, imputs his herd numbers into a spreadsheet, chats with his relatives via email and IRC, and then secretly downloads some pr0n while his wife bakes pumpkin pie. Hell he might even kernel hack for fun:)
But you could do the same things and go the same places with an old Land Rover, a tent, a few maps and a compass.
This vehicle was obviously done, because it can be done, sort of like climbing a mountain because it was there.
Have you seen the cockpit picture. Makes a lad drool!
BTW: my personal opinion is that this vehcile is built for filming pr0n in remote locations. The trailer is pretty darn luxurious, and with all that filming, editing and communications gear... well you could stream pr0n live from anywhere on the planet. This is perhaps the ultimate "shaggin' Wagon" hehehe;)
I found it was like a great big non-interactive computer game. They walk along various platforms and kill lots of little monsters, until they get to the 'end of level' big boss monster.
Good action flick, but hardly worth all this hype about "best film ever". I honestly didn't find it very intellectually stimulating or particularly clever... and it was overly long for what actually happened. Perhaps it is just too big and they got lazy?
I'll probably be tracked down and killed by a google of D&D freaks for this post... but I have a large 20 sided die to protect me! Beware!
Um, isn't the whole point of Open Source/Free software the people do creative, and even boring work (bug fixes), for free because they have autonomy in approach, they feel custodianship over the project, and because they are allowed to be creative?
There is something very wrong with society when you need to put a gun to a head or bribe with money to make people work.
The whole point of open source is that people are not inherently lazy, but thrive and do creative stuff if given freedom. Think of the gloom and depression the facsist organisation of work under capitalism creates - can you say repetivite mindless tasks?
Capitalism does NOT have some kind of monopoly on "creativity" or "Prosperity" or "Trade". Capitalism just stands for a few (very few) parasites sucking blood from the rest of humanity. Open Source/Free software is proving that capitlism infact stifles potential creativity and efficiency and security. This has implication beyond software and computers, perhaps it hints at a BETTER way to organise work and society! That's the real point.
As for you assertion that anti-WTO protestors are violent - well the powers-that-be have got you hook, line & sinker boy!
I'll be taking legal action against KPMG for creating such a god damn ugly web site! And as for the theme song, well that's a few million in punitary damages! - "Worst Song Ever".
*outside* Shriek! Just put your digital camera out the window, point it toward the sky, and enjoy the show with the added bonus of alt-tab straight to pr0n if the meteors don't perform.
Slashdot Mirror
jail time for Mr William Gates.
:)
I think you'll find the good old USA had a system of aparteid right up until the 1960s! Some would say current drug laws etc are in fact defacto aparteid. And then there was slavery before that...
Australia also had aparteid, and the Europeans basically invented slave trading. While the Arabs currently carry on this fine tradition in Southern Sudan.
I'm not defending South African aparteid, but lets not rewrite history "BlackHawkDown" style, and pretend it was only them!
yeah, damn it I want to do a tour of Duty on a big old mining space ship. Get it together NASA, let me live out my dreams!
I've just installed Mandrake 8.1 and KDE. I'm know a fair bit about computers and like exploring, but I'm by no means "technical". The install of Mandrake and the desktop makes windows look clunky.
/. to be 'ultra-reasonable' or 'sensible' and praise Microsoft while dissin' Linux, but give credit where credit is due. Linux desktop looks fantastic and doesn't treat the user like they're retarded!
I know it is fashionable on
Most people in my office know virtually nothing about windows. They just don't get it, but they've never been encouraged to try and get it. People aren't stupid, but if you treat them stupid like Microsoft does, then they will be lazy and be stupid. Scarying people by telling them that they've "performed an illegal operation" does not encourage people to explore the desktop and become a "power user".
People aren't stupid... Windows is.
"He's a celebrated linguist, not a political thinker."
Chomsky is an intellectual in the true meaning of the word. Not only is he brilliant in his academic field , but he speaks up for those with no voice and articulates for those who can not. This is the mark of a true intellectual, not some fat assed scientist who gets paid to sit on defence panels working out how to justify the power of the already powerful!
You are dismissing a man whose gone face-to-face with people like Foucult!!! He is also not afraid to take on those on the so-called LEFT over matters of principal. Defending a Nazi apologists right to free speech a while ago.
"He has so much emotional hatred of the United States that it clouds his thinking."
Chomsky contantly sites independent sources to back up his claims (if anything he sites too often making it difficult to follow his argument). This is precisely because he wants to show that what he says actually happens, and that what most people hear (or don't hear) is not the whole truth... indeed it is "manufactured".
Indeed it seems to me that your socialised emotional love of the United States (yeah, wave that flag) blinds you to what your country actually does both domestically and internationally.
Well I just happen to think that science, astronomy and the quest for knowledge is a better "pet interest" than building killing devices and using them on peasants in the third world while waving the "stars and stripes" so god damn close to your face that anyone who disagrees or dares to point out US hyprocrisy is part of the imaginary "Evil Axis".
I fart in your general direction!
Imagine how many space probes the $50 billion extra, that George W wants to spend on making bombs and guns, could build and launch.
The people in charge of this planet must be stupid. They devote all our resources to killing eachother or making crap TV programs and holywood schlock when they could be funding planetary exploration.
Try justifying this expenditure to a child interested in astronomy.
All those dumb American flags everyone bought after s11 could probably fund an inter-planetary probe... It's like the whole world is navel gazing when there is so much to see.
then inovation would die. I E only exists today because Netscape innovated. Microsft Media PLayer only eixts today because of Winamp/real player. M$ instant messanger thingy only eixts because of ICQ.
Hell windows only exists because of Apple!
Basically M$ does not innovate, rather it stifles innovation. This is why is should be broken up!
IF we all thought like you then we'd say that DOS was good enough, why bother trying to have a market that bothered to do more!
Just imagine what kind of software and OS's we'd be using now if M$ hadn't had a monopoly for the last decade! Jesus, its 2002...we should be doing better! Look at hardware, innovation happens so rapidly compared to software.
M$ monopoly is a problem.
"you are either with us or against us" - W
/. are just enforcing freedom the American way (for example ignoring the Geneva convention).
yeah it's off topic, but this makes the principle of free software pale in comparison!
it isn't a centrally controlled transnationalism. If transnationalism is centrally controlled by Capital (via corporations) or by an elite (via the (Marxist/Leninist)Party - then NOTHING changes for Jo/e Sixpack. (be he coder or labourer) Mr or Mrs Sixpack simply swaps one master for another.
[rant]
What we need is decentralisation of work. Worker control of factories and offices. Anarcho-syndicalism, backed up by technology!
Open Source could be considered an example of this method, perhaps p2p is an example of the future distribution system?
However, this only works with digital information. When you need physical resources, raw materials, parts, phsycial distribution things get more complex and anarcho-syndicalist methods will be strongly opposed and crushed by those who benefit by the status quo and their lackey (govt).
Open source could stand as an example that humans aren't all stupid drones that need to be controlled and 'managed' by institutional hierarchies, but can actually do clever and coordinated things if given the space and opportunity to do so.
[/rant]
I don't agree that technology can be "overanalysed". As Hebert Marcuse, Jurgen Habermas, Lewis Mumford and Lagdan Winner have all pointed out, technology is underanalysed as a social phenomenon.
:)
"Progress" is accepted as inevitable and positive, with very little public debate or analysis over its likely effects on social life and culture.
Sure the "specifics, standards, formats, protocols" are debated within the technological community. But whether the technology itself is desireable is rarely questioned. Usually social analysis of technology happens after it is too late!
... as for your rancher riding the fences... well I bet he goes home and does his banking via a web site, imputs his herd numbers into a spreadsheet, chats with his relatives via email and IRC, and then secretly downloads some pr0n while his wife bakes pumpkin pie. Hell he might even kernel hack for fun
It is impressive yes (why I posted it).
;)
But you could do the same things and go the same places with an old Land Rover, a tent, a few maps and a compass.
This vehicle was obviously done, because it can be done, sort of like climbing a mountain because it was there.
Have you seen the cockpit picture. Makes a lad drool!
BTW: my personal opinion is that this vehcile is built for filming pr0n in remote locations. The trailer is pretty darn luxurious, and with all that filming, editing and communications gear... well you could stream pr0n live from anywhere on the planet. This is perhaps the ultimate "shaggin' Wagon" hehehe
Yes, Google isn't the 'official' spelling, but this was a pun for all you geek types! Obviously some of your are too geeky for your own good!
besides, everyone knew what I meant.
...the Three Laws of Robotics?
1. A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Surely they remembered to code these laws into the Drone 0.99.14 kernel!?!
Holy cow, if they didn't then it is only a matter of time until we become the robot's pets! The fools, those damn fools!
mod parent up FUNNY, yet sad. Imagine the world of computers without M$
I found it was like a great big non-interactive computer game. They walk along various platforms and kill lots of little monsters, until they get to the 'end of level' big boss monster.
Good action flick, but hardly worth all this hype about "best film ever". I honestly didn't find it very intellectually stimulating or particularly clever... and it was overly long for what actually happened. Perhaps it is just too big and they got lazy?
I'll probably be tracked down and killed by a google of D&D freaks for this post... but I have a large 20 sided die to protect me! Beware!
Here in Sydney about 5000 volunteers spent Xmas and boxing day fighting massive bush fires.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
-Abraham Lincoln (1809?1865)
Um, isn't the whole point of Open Source/Free software the people do creative, and even boring work (bug fixes), for free because they have autonomy in approach, they feel custodianship over the project, and because they are allowed to be creative?
There is something very wrong with society when you need to put a gun to a head or bribe with money to make people work.
The whole point of open source is that people are not inherently lazy, but thrive and do creative stuff if given freedom. Think of the gloom and depression the facsist organisation of work under capitalism creates - can you say repetivite mindless tasks?
Capitalism does NOT have some kind of monopoly on "creativity" or "Prosperity" or "Trade". Capitalism just stands for a few (very few) parasites sucking blood from the rest of humanity. Open Source/Free software is proving that capitlism infact stifles potential creativity and efficiency and security. This has implication beyond software and computers, perhaps it hints at a BETTER way to organise work and society! That's the real point.
As for you assertion that anti-WTO protestors are violent - well the powers-that-be have got you hook, line & sinker boy!
Where did Kerry get his money? From his Father Frank Packer.
The Packers are getting stupider with every generation.
Kerry's son James Packer recently helped send a telecommunications broke.
oh, and did I mention the whole family has been beaten savagely with the ugly stick
:) That feels good.
I'll be taking legal action against KPMG for creating such a god damn ugly web site! And as for the theme song, well that's a few million in punitary damages! - "Worst Song Ever".
I wonder if I can download it from KaZza?
How is this moded "Insightful"? fuk ups
*outside* Shriek! Just put your digital camera out the window, point it toward the sky, and enjoy the show with the added bonus of alt-tab straight to pr0n if the meteors don't perform.
I just happen to be going camping that weekend here in Australia. I'll be bringing the Ganga and if I can find the LSD it'll be there too.
suck my Aussie Schlong Yankee
Private property created crime. If they really want to end theft, then abolish private property. I can't see THEM doing that though.
All those greedy corporations can suck my schlong.