His only criterion is whether the browser crashes or not. Somehow, it disturbs me more that IE doesn't crash; what precisely is the effect of the bad code then?
I agree that these are all potential security holes, yet the article author mistakenly correlates crashing with vulnerability.
What if IE is similarly vulnerable yet simply doesn't crash?
From that point of view, at least crashing is an indication that sometihng is not right.
You can tell what kind of attitude people have by the units of time they use with deadlines. A rough translation guide:
"I'll have it done in a second": means "you have me by my balls; if I don't get my paycheck, I'm getting evicted, my girlfriend will leave me for Stu, and I'll suffer from erectile dysfunction. Oh, and Stu is the neighborhood stray."
"Give me a couple of hours" means "It'll really take a couple of minutes, but I found some great pr0n which, quite frankly, is higher on my priorities list. And you see, my entire family died in a horrible sewing accident and I've inherited a few hundred bucks so I'm not scheduled to become desparate for my paycheck for another few weeks."
"Sure. Next week okay?" means "Boy, aren't I glad I went freelance and can now charge by the hour! I _did_ bookmark that new ferris wheel pr0n site, didn't I..."
"You'll have it in a month and a half" means the same as the last one, but the person delivering the promise has now been freelancing for some time and is well aware of the outlandish deadlines one can deliver. Typically this kind of deadline is delivered in a falsetto faux-latin-lover accent.
"Can you wait till Autumn?" translates as "Go fuck yourselves - No wait, let us assist you in the process of your getting fucked."
Finally, "Some time in 20[07-99]" is reserved for Longhorn-specific press releases.
Arabic results display alright here (firefox 0.9.3 on windows) but you can't click on them. Other UTF-8 encoded sites display just fine; can anyone else replicate this odd behavior?
Look here for an example. Something with the bidi functionality, perhaps? Any hebrew users?
H'lo there. I'm from EGLUG, and I just stumbled across this discussion.
Yes, we're teaming up with ArabDev, and the latest word is we have people lobbying the GUC (German University in Cairo) to gt behind the effort. This is critical, since we don't yet have that much people hours. Volunteers, remember?
Hit our site; there's a DELUGE of initiatives. Off the top of my head, we've presented at an FOSS conference run by the Journalists' Syndicate (i.e. the movement is hitting bigtime), we've been contacted by the biggest public library in Cairo to assist in migrating the systems there to FOSS (any suggestions? Please help out; post on our forum - we need all the help we can get). There's the ongoing linux classes we're teaching (weekly, booked solid well into November), etc.
How can you help? Participate. Suggest. Interact. Criticise (but be gentle please).
You want more concrete ways you can help out? Okay. Here:
1. If you're Egyptian or know Egyptians, we have a promotional e-mail draft up here. Spread it around. We need the exposure. 2. If you know people who would be willing to discuss sponsorship (Mandrake? Suse? SCO?) please take the initiative. We'd love to know, and we are unusually hard up for resources. 3. IF you know someone at IBM (not in Egypt), please have them contact us. IBM Egypt does not get it and are actively hampering our efforts. I can provide a full writeup if someone needs it. If IBM Egypt could wrap their minds around EGLUG being an asset and not some sort of usurper, they could be a big boost. 4. Know CSS? We need help there too; I know this seems minor, but there are issues with readability on our site and no one really has all that much time. 5. Good with graphics? We need artwork for phaeronix, an LFS-based distro we want to get behind and disseminate to appeal to nationalistic streaks (I'm a marketer at heart). Contact me if you can help out with this. 6. Developer? Please help with phaeronix. Contact me:) 7. And as ever, Al Sawy Cultural Center are our biggest friends in Cairo. It is a young cultural center in downtown Cairo where we hold linux classes for free, and the proprietor (Mr. Al Sawy) Just Gets It(tm). They're letting us show Revolution OS on the big screen next week. Wouldn't hurt if you dropped them a line saying thanks on our behalf.
Alternatively, use your imagination.:)
kbahey, thanks for keeping an eye on us and helping with exposure. Hope to see you in EGLUG sometime.
I know bahram, he helped found the first LUG in the region. But he's not doing anything for this event. Look at the post; it's all basically an ad for a one-man distro a friend of his made.
We had a fork in the LUG a few months back because it wasn't being run democratically and it had turned into a stagnant online forum.
I don't mean to flame, but I can't see why or how you got modded +5 insightful.
I wonder why one doesn't just go outside and experience that free-for-ever massive online game called REAL LIFE!
I wonder why one doesn't just go outside and experience that free-for-ever massive online game called REAL LIFE!
So a pilot wouldn't play a flight sim? A management drone such as I wouldn't play something like Railroad Tycoon? All of these because the meatspace equivalent is more fulfilling?
Look, it's a game. That is the keyword. It is not an inadequate substitute for real life. There's got to be a million reasons to play those things. See? Another keyword: play.
You can't get killed in a flight sim and you can't get thrown out on the street if you bankrupt yourself in a management sim.
And that's just one reason.
But you already know all of this; you just made that post because it's a tried and tested slashdot cliche for karma points.
I'm sorr, I really don't mean to flame. Your comment history just indicates you truly can be insightful, and this comment doesn't reflect that.
the law appears for several days in voting booths distributed over all of Egypt, and players can vote on it. If the law gets a two-thirds majority, the developers will then change the game code to implement it
Cool. Now we (yes, I live there) can get to vote on our laws in a computer game, at least:)
Please choose: 1. In soviet russia, controller plugs you in the usb port, (default: butt plug inference guaranteed) 2. Neat, but according to the spec sheet -- oooh, look, Natalie Portman! Drenched in... oooh HOT GRITS! 3. Obligatory porn industry joke tagged to stories about new types of peripherals 4. Obligatory site-hosted-on-a-joystick slashdotted joke (phallic reference: choose only in emergency)
That whole mozilla suite project just seems to be generating a lot of really good software... There's firegoat, thunderbird, mozilla, alotofotherthingsidontknowaboutfox, and mozilla.
I mean wow, those are some productive developers... Kudos.
(though I keep on worrying that they'll slip out a kernel one of these days just to complete the operating environment... kernelzilla? mozillOS? Thunderbarf?)
It seems a lot of people have already contacted the LinuxWeek editors; they've posted a link on the front page to the story with the tagline
Fed up with crap articles like this?
Let the management know: lwmeditors@sys-con.com
Way to get mileage out of tis bizarre mistake...
Clearcut case of failing journalistic integrity.
Let LinuxWorld know what you think of the journalistic integrity of their writer.
Make it polite, short, and to the point.
He hits hard on NetBSD and OpenBSD as though they were evil or the spawns of some demon's loins.
Umm... I'm not entirely sure how to break this to you...
His only criterion is whether the browser crashes or not. Somehow, it disturbs me more that IE doesn't crash; what precisely is the effect of the bad code then?
I agree that these are all potential security holes, yet the article author mistakenly correlates crashing with vulnerability.
What if IE is similarly vulnerable yet simply doesn't crash?
From that point of view, at least crashing is an indication that sometihng is not right.
All the same, I consider it a good beginning.
I almost feel sorry for Microsoft reading this article. He's right, and what's more I'd be surprised if many people at Microsoft didn't know it.
But they can't; how precisely can Microsoft remain a profitable publicly traded company while embracing open source? Their software is all they have.
IBM was in a fortunate position of being a major hardware vendor and therefore capable of switching revenue stream focus.
But Microsoft?
Can anyone else imagine Microsoft five years from now being known more and more as that company that makes really nice mice and peripherals?
this
Look at all this PORN!
YAY!
I LOVE my google!
*grateful tears*
You can tell what kind of attitude people have by the units of time they use with deadlines. A rough translation guide:
"I'll have it done in a second": means "you have me by my balls; if I don't get my paycheck, I'm getting evicted, my girlfriend will leave me for Stu, and I'll suffer from erectile dysfunction. Oh, and Stu is the neighborhood stray."
"Give me a couple of hours" means "It'll really take a couple of minutes, but I found some great pr0n which, quite frankly, is higher on my priorities list. And you see, my entire family died in a horrible sewing accident and I've inherited a few hundred bucks so I'm not scheduled to become desparate for my paycheck for another few weeks."
"Sure. Next week okay?" means "Boy, aren't I glad I went freelance and can now charge by the hour! I _did_ bookmark that new ferris wheel pr0n site, didn't I..."
"You'll have it in a month and a half" means the same as the last one, but the person delivering the promise has now been freelancing for some time and is well aware of the outlandish deadlines one can deliver. Typically this kind of deadline is delivered in a falsetto faux-latin-lover accent.
"Can you wait till Autumn?" translates as "Go fuck yourselves - No wait, let us assist you in the process of your getting fucked."
Finally, "Some time in 20[07-99]" is reserved for Longhorn-specific press releases.
I sincerely hope this helps you.
I'm glad that the cliche about technology (it will be applied first in porn) does not apply to zoological discoveries too.
*phew*
The new fileselector pisses me off bad enough that I'd consider switching for the express purpose of spiting the gnome devs who cooked THAT one up.
Arabic results display alright here (firefox 0.9.3 on windows) but you can't click on them. Other UTF-8 encoded sites display just fine; can anyone else replicate this odd behavior?
Look here for an example. Something with the bidi functionality, perhaps? Any hebrew users?
--
The Egyptian LUG
H'lo there. I'm from EGLUG, and I just stumbled across this discussion.
:)
:)
Yes, we're teaming up with ArabDev, and the latest word is we have people lobbying the GUC (German University in Cairo) to gt behind the effort. This is critical, since we don't yet have that much people hours. Volunteers, remember?
Hit our site; there's a DELUGE of initiatives. Off the top of my head, we've presented at an FOSS conference run by the Journalists' Syndicate (i.e. the movement is hitting bigtime), we've been contacted by the biggest public library in Cairo to assist in migrating the systems there to FOSS (any suggestions? Please help out; post on our forum - we need all the help we can get). There's the ongoing linux classes we're teaching (weekly, booked solid well into November), etc.
How can you help? Participate. Suggest. Interact. Criticise (but be gentle please).
You want more concrete ways you can help out? Okay. Here:
1. If you're Egyptian or know Egyptians, we have a promotional e-mail draft up here. Spread it around. We need the exposure.
2. If you know people who would be willing to discuss sponsorship (Mandrake? Suse? SCO?) please take the initiative. We'd love to know, and we are unusually hard up for resources.
3. IF you know someone at IBM (not in Egypt), please have them contact us. IBM Egypt does not get it and are actively hampering our efforts. I can provide a full writeup if someone needs it. If IBM Egypt could wrap their minds around EGLUG being an asset and not some sort of usurper, they could be a big boost.
4. Know CSS? We need help there too; I know this seems minor, but there are issues with readability on our site and no one really has all that much time.
5. Good with graphics? We need artwork for phaeronix, an LFS-based distro we want to get behind and disseminate to appeal to nationalistic streaks (I'm a marketer at heart). Contact me if you can help out with this.
6. Developer? Please help with phaeronix. Contact me
7. And as ever, Al Sawy Cultural Center are our biggest friends in Cairo. It is a young cultural center in downtown Cairo where we hold linux classes for free, and the proprietor (Mr. Al Sawy) Just Gets It(tm). They're letting us show Revolution OS on the big screen next week. Wouldn't hurt if you dropped them a line saying thanks on our behalf.
Alternatively, use your imagination.
kbahey, thanks for keeping an eye on us and helping with exposure. Hope to see you in EGLUG sometime.
Although I am unable to conceive of the type of spacefaring mishap which could result in a mere broken leg...
I jest, but good luck.
Now, if I can just arrange the words ethernet, sniffer, promiscuous in some logical fashion...
I would have liked to hear what the other candidates' responses would have been, for contrast. Kucinic in particular.
In a chart, even better.
(going to be some election, with even non-Americans like me taking this intense an interest, hm?)
I know bahram, he helped found the first LUG in the region. But he's not doing anything for this event. Look at the post; it's all basically an ad for a one-man distro a friend of his made.
We had a fork in the LUG a few months back because it wasn't being run democratically and it had turned into a stagnant online forum.
We the forkers are here.
Check out our charter, you can tell by it what we wanted to change and by extension why we forked. Oh, and it's going beautifully now.
Umm, I object respectfully to the expression taking place.
Egypt is on that list, and I know we're not doing anything around here.
Simply listing someone's name of a wiki does not mean that a software freedom day is happening there.
Give me a keyboard with mechanical keys and 24 function keys like the keyboards you get with an IBM 3270...
Of course, I'm probably forgetting lots of stuff. Anyone have further things I've missed??
/. loser club now?
Um. Duke Nukem Forever?
There, I've made a Duke Nukem joke. Can I join the
I don't feel there's anything ironic about it.
I don't mean to flame, but I can't see why or how you got modded +5 insightful.
I wonder why one doesn't just go outside and experience that free-for-ever massive online game called REAL LIFE!
I wonder why one doesn't just go outside and experience that free-for-ever massive online game called REAL LIFE!
So a pilot wouldn't play a flight sim? A management drone such as I wouldn't play something like Railroad Tycoon? All of these because the meatspace equivalent is more fulfilling?
Look, it's a game. That is the keyword. It is not an inadequate substitute for real life. There's got to be a million reasons to play those things. See? Another keyword: play.
You can't get killed in a flight sim and you can't get thrown out on the street if you bankrupt yourself in a management sim.
And that's just one reason.
But you already know all of this; you just made that post because it's a tried and tested slashdot cliche for karma points.
I'm sorr, I really don't mean to flame. Your comment history just indicates you truly can be insightful, and this comment doesn't reflect that.
the law appears for several days in voting booths distributed over all of Egypt, and players can vote on it. If the law gets a two-thirds majority, the developers will then change the game code to implement it
:)
Cool. Now we (yes, I live there) can get to vote on our laws in a computer game, at least
Please choose:
1. In soviet russia, controller plugs you in the usb port, (default: butt plug inference guaranteed)
2. Neat, but according to the spec sheet -- oooh, look, Natalie Portman! Drenched in... oooh HOT GRITS!
3. Obligatory porn industry joke tagged to stories about new types of peripherals
4. Obligatory site-hosted-on-a-joystick slashdotted joke (phallic reference: choose only in emergency)
^C
You are confused.
To block spam at the transport level is one thing; an algorithm for identifying spam without human intervention is another entirely.
I suggest you RTFA. Their method is actually pretty interesting. Lackluster is not the appropriate word for the novel idea they have come up with.
I don't think it's new users being disinterested in technology as such.
I think it's the fact that this `how pointless' attitude is fashionable with the mods, and the new users are looking for karma points.
That whole mozilla suite project just seems to be generating a lot of really good software... There's firegoat, thunderbird, mozilla, alotofotherthingsidontknowaboutfox, and mozilla.
:0 Thanks for all the great work!
I mean wow, those are some productive developers... Kudos.
(though I keep on worrying that they'll slip out a kernel one of these days just to complete the operating environment... kernelzilla? mozillOS? Thunderbarf?)
Just kidding