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Microsoft Can't DRM Docs Fast Enough
grcumb writes "As part of the DoJ Anti-trust settlement, Microsoft was ordered to provide freely available documentation for its communications protocols. InfoWorld is reporting that not only are they late in delivering the required APIs, but it's because they want to convert everything to the read-only Web Archive (MHT) format, which can only be viewed in MSIE. InfoWorld reports that, "In July, Microsoft said it would complete revisions of the documentation required by the court in the autumn, a season generally reckoned to include the months of September, October and November in North America, but may now have to extend work on a beta or test version of the new documentation into December...." So we have to wait longer for a format that makes the content harder for developers (developers! developers!) to use. Maybe they didn't read the documentation ..."
RFC 2557: MIME Encapsulation of Aggregate Documents, such as HTML (MHTML)
There's a Mozilla KB entry about MHTML support and open bugs for load and save (IDs 18764 and 40873; bugzilla won't accept links from Slashdot). Plus the maf extension to support MHTML.
Duh! Being Microsoft, they had to make things harder for developers to use. After all, if they made it easy, it would be a Macintosh.
I am shocked
Or are they just trying to look slick?
The opposite of progress is congress
The might make them available only in printed form, and only to people who pay an admin fee of a few hundred dollars.
Ermmm yeah. What part of "freely available" means available only in MSIE?
The (Developers! Developers!) reference is about the Steve Ballmer Monkey Boy Dance.
The DoJ should make 'em turn the docs into manpages. You know, just to piss Billy off.
to slither itself out of something they don't want to do but are ordered to b delays and tactics like this...they are supposed to make things freely avalable thats something they dont want to do but tey have to so they make it as much of a pain in the ass as posible for everyone...too bad the system is more bueracracy and less common sense...
Well thats ok then. Now where's that format? Oh www.microsoft.com/download/mht-fileformat.mht .....
It's mostly text and can be printed right? And then later (if anyone cares enough to do it) scanned into non-DRM documents...
So much for DRM lol
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Microsoft said it would complete revisions of the documentation required by the court in the autumn, a season generally reckoned to include the months of September, October and November in North America, but may now have to extend work on a beta or test version of the new documentation into December..
Actually winter normally does not officially commence until around December 22nd. So they are quite within a reasonable timeframe to complete it in early December and still be done in autumn.
...Microsoft said it would complete revisions of the documentation required by the court in the autumn...
How can a company tell a court that they will finish something in a season? Shouldn't a deadline from a court ruling have a specific date attached to it?
MHT and MHTML files are actually really cool and its too bad other browsers don't support it. (Or in Mozilla's case, support it outside of the mail client.) I wonder if its just because MS came up with the idea? (AFAIK)
The format is *extremely* useful for things like demo'ing a web site or portions of a website on a frequent basis to different people. I work for a company where we are constantly updating our demo server with new accounts, constantly creating new subdomains, etc, just to allow a client to view the site in their browser securely. We need to be able to take premission away from them after the demo period is over, as well as, make sure unprivledged users don't see the content.
This could all be solved by storing the mhtml archive of the web content in our digital asset management system. Administering that is much easier that setting up new domains/users/etc.
But alas, nobody supports it.
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Winter begins on December 21-22. Has this changed, or is the story using hyperbole to make a meaningless point?
If the judge demands that the documentation for Microsoft APIs is open an available for everyone, how is delivering said documentation in a form that only IE can read, meeting the judge demands?
I don't get it.
Meep.
Sorry, had to say that (again).
Actually you're wrong, they aren't compressed at all, they are encoded in Base64 transfer encoding.. so.. they are actually 33% larger then they need to be (refering to the emdedded images). On the plus side, they are very simple to decode and convert to straight HTML + images, they are not one way, or DRM'd, or compressed....
The current government is a
1) Republican administration
2) To which Microsoft was the third largest corporate donor.
This means that things like Department of Justice orders from *previous* administrations don't count.
May we never see th
Yeah, they are making it available, alright. In a proprietary format that's only readable in the most bug-ridden, security-hole-laden product on the planet!
All part of their plan to insure that every machine on the planet runs Windows and is infested with enough trojans to guarantee SPAM for the next 50 years!
Microsoft's policy is that all downloadable documents and specifications etc. should be signed, so you can verify that the document hasn't been tampered with. Usually they implement that by embedding a word document in an (signed) Windows executable. MHT seems to be an improvement.
...that they would get a contempt of court citation, but they deserve it.
None of this corporate nonsense will end, and it will continue to get worse and worse, until the law is readjusted to reflect that only named individual human beings have personal rights. Corporations avoid a lot of "guilt" by hiding behind the artificial person legal construct. It's beyond loony, was insane when it was aquired, now it's out of control and has lead to defacto fascism, let's call it what it is.
And I blame the law/justice/court system just as much in this mess as the corporations.
"Microsoft" should have never gone to trial, it should have been named humans, completely responsible for their decisions.
Here's a thought, a mass protest by millions of people having a nationwide "incorporation day", flood the system with incorporation papers and lawsuits, a tidal wave of paperwork shuffling, patent applications, copyright registrations, and so on and so forth. Get every human to be part of their own friends and family corporation, watch the system grind to a halt, THEN maybe we'll get some change. Take every single tax break corporations get, fill out the paperwork. Why should they get all the tax break perks, and avoid personal responsibility? Sue the pants off of every large existing corporation out there, find little picyaune laws you can use. Patent everything possible, no matter how obscure. Challenge "no warranty" EULAS in small claims court all over. Serve every PHB out there with papers detailing your employment status, make them sign off to you on every single decision. They balk, sue em. Hand your own puchase contract to every shopkeeper out there when you go to buy something, demand they sign it for the sale.
They want stupid, inane, ridiculous, society choking crap busywork and laws I say give it to 'em!
Completely drown them in their own corporate/governmental/so called "legal system" paperwork BS.....
If MS has to provide freely available documentation, and the documentation they provide is only accessable using IE....doesn't this mean that MS should provide me with a free Windows license if I choose to develop my Windows software on a Linux workstation? :)
Wise men say, "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza."
Don't we just need one machine on the net somewhere to which we can...
Not if it gets Slashdotted.
we're gonna need you to go ahead and implement everything in MHT. So if you could just go ahead and get the docs on how to read MHT docs... they're on our web site in MHT format... yeahhhh - that'd be great. And we'll need the TPS reports by the fall, too.
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
Maybe they should outsource the work to China, perhaps they will get it done in time.
Last thing I heard is that Chinese people want to work harder for less money.
if your pants fit well, it's not only because of the pants
They aren't required to make anything "freely" available. They just have to make their documentation available under licensing terms. A few companies have already joined the company (like NetApp). NetApp gave a talk about it at the CIFS 2004 conference. Basically, the documentation they provided was incompletely, incorrect, and provided less info than they already knew. However, they did work with NetApp to improve the documentation. I'm not sure what this article is referring to though. This progam is well over a year old...
You can use the RMS SDK to build a shared document library that can protect and deliver RMS-protected documents on demand.
I was unaware that Mr. Stallman had contributed such a thing to Microsoft. Funny that I couldn't find a link at gnu.org.
Well thats ok then. Now where's that format? Oh www.microsoft.com/download/mht-fileformat.mht
Chicken and egg may be good for a joke, but in the case of documents that can be read only on 94 percent of web UAs, it shouldn't introduce many problems in practice. It takes fewer than a dozen hackers on Windows machines to convert mht-fileformat.mht to mht-parser.py. Remember that GNU was developed on UNIX, and that the FSF still uses proprietary software for purposes of cloning it.
The antitrust suit from burst.com or whoever they are and the article recently mentioned pretty-much says it all with regards to Microsoft tactics.
They are like children always trying to slither and wriggle their way out of things. It's disgusting and dishonorable. What's worse is that the court system seems to tollerate it all too often. I'm not a lawyer which is probably why I have a pretty clear picture of "right and wrong" in this.
Basically, the court ordered them to do something and they failed to comply. The court should take action and not accept excuses. Freely available is freely available -- locking it down through format is not freely available and NOT what the court intended.
Not everywhere.
Not in the south. At least in Australia, summer starts Dec. 1 and Winter starts June 1.
Q:I was listening to a CD in Grip and it sounded horrible! What's up? A:Perhaps you are listening to country music
No, you dont have to buy anything from adobe. There are many free ways to create PDF files..
One quick example is "pdfcreator".. its a pseduo printer driver that exports directly to PDF format..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
The postscript viewer GhostView works well, it also does the equations perfectly! Although it doesn't like some of the custom fill patterns for Autoshapes, no great loss ;).
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Create your word doc
I_hate_MS.DOC
Just print your DOC to file
I_hate_MS.PRN
Load up GSView
Select File->Convert
Select PDFWrite (I think it is default)
And you are done!
I_hate_MS.PDF
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And no "This was converted by stupidcorp" anywhere!
The current government is a
1) Republican administration
2) To which Microsoft was the third largest corporate donor.
This means that things like Department of Justice orders from *previous* administrations don't count.
I don't like the DoJ's soft-on-microsoft attitude either.
But would you prefer it if a Democratic administration couldn't decide to soft-pedal decisions made by, say, the appointees of Bush's administration?
You know they will. They always have.
Sauce for the goose IS sauce for the gander. So let's not get partisan over it.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Just the other day I was wondering if FireFox, or another Mozilla system would support this file format. The basic premise is it take an entire web page (including exteral resources such as images, CSS, javascript, etc) and puts it in one file. You can open these files in a text editor and see they represent a multipart, plain text document. So MS's reasoning for doing this is to make them a little friendlier to download, although only viewable on IE. No encryption or compression that I saw.
That said, I'm glad to see Mozilla is looking to support this. Again, its a fairly open and simple format and I don't know why they are having a hard time converting their docs to this. They probably did it in Word and are trying to export as HTML. This will kill almost any webmaster...
"The plaintiffs have three main areas of concern about the documentation.
First among these is that Microsoft, asked to open up and document the interfaces to its communication protocols for licensees, has chosen to issue the documentation in a rights-protected file format called MHT, readable only with its own Web browser, Internet Explorer. This means licensees can neither annotate nor effectively search the information, according to the plaintiffs. "
They wanted to strip out all the Word history by converting formats in case any of the documents started out as a thank-you note to Darl.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
No wonder Microsoft is failing. If they think that people have the time to go through that myriad of steps everytime they want to create and publish they are seriously misguided.
Gatescorp can't find a way to translate them to HTML.
Winter begins december 21st... If autumn ends in november, what is the season between november 30th and december 21st called???
After 3 days without programming, life becomes meaningless
- The Tao of Programming
I saw that metadata and I must admit that seeing the last 10 authors, the fact that MS folks had crashed no less than 2 times in the document itself, and seeing the revealed tracked changes that showed up again as a result of the corrupting document was a real hoot. Apparently the folks at Microsoft were somewhat horrified...
Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily this is not difficult. -Whitton
It means they should make ie cross platform. Think of all of the wonderful viri you could have! Actually, if they were to ever revive IE for unix, it might just kill mozilla. IF you were a big enterprise trying to switch over to linux and had the option of keeping IE installed for those custom enteprise web solutions you'd do it in a heart beat. I think it would be even cooler if microsoft released it for linux, but not for free. Just make the browser cost ~ $100 and they'd make up for the lack of the windows license. However, the power of the monopoly is worth far more than any revenue to be gained from Ie for linux sales.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
I wonder how tough it could be to piece the documentation together in a non-protected document? I mean, if you can see it, then you can take screenshots of it in IE. The text can go through OCR. Images can be print-screened and saved. How difficult would it really be for someone who wanted it bad enough to simply piece the document back together in say, Word?
Thanks, QT-videos... how to view them in Linux?
The DRM is not the compression part. The files are encrypted. If you DID RTFA, you would have read:
And that MS is offering aThe problem with this dev toolkit is that it is MS only, so that means no Linux, Mac, *BSD or Solaris for the DRM of these MHT files. These documents are for developers who may want to interact with MS's proprietary communications protocols, and some of them may be working on different OSes to make those other OSes use MS's proprietary communications protocols. Now they will be forced to use MS windows to get to the documentation.If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison
If you read the MSDN links, you'd see that MHT has DRM built into it.
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Microsoft will make themselves look good by saying they are doing it for the customer. the people that don't know will sing their praises
But have you seen the bloated HTML that MS Word creates? A fast workstation could take months! :D
mplayer
I swear, some of this stuff I've only dreamed about. Or did when I was 12 and 13 just to spite my parents.
Write a 2 page report of why it was wrong to pee on my sister? Ok.
Because she's a bitch, because she's a bitch, because she's a bitch, because she's a bitch...
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MSFT is my idol. That is totally awesome to be an adult and do shit like this. It's like a dream, or my own little personal Matrix. YES!!
So why don't these fools who are trying to hack Fairplay do something useful in the fight against unreasonable DRM and turn their attention towards MHT.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Doesn't Microsoft own a publishing company called, "Microsoft Press"? MS seems to be able to produce large books (hat usually sit in shrinkwrap boxes and are typically found in the Windows administrator's cube. Maybe MS could take a small break from printing books nobody reads to printing books required as part an important anti-trust settlement.
They should be thankful that I am not the judge in this case. When a company has a technical publishing department and can't provide timely techical documentation then that is CONTEMPT!
Until Febutober the eleventeenth to stop abusing it's monopoly status.
is one of the most asked for features by the people.
Google search MHT. No one has even heard of it.
While most of us here dislike Microsoft and even more distrust them this isn't that big of a deal.
It's *just* a readonly format, and it is documented..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
I believe the correct term is "asshat".
They would force Microsoft to create products around an open set of standards.
.doc files for example.
This is kind of interesting because it only applies to computer programming (actually I suppose it applies to any interchangeable parts in a machine but people rarely swap those in and out) but the main barrier to someone trying to assault the microsoft monopoly is that they use propreietary standards for their products.
No other word program can enter the market without being able to read and write
There is no real reason for this, it is simply a way to bolster their monopoly, it is not as if these standards are particularly novel.
I wonder how you would write this as a law though, "outgoing documents and media material must be in a open standard"?
I think it would be unfair to deny them the ability to have documents make procedure calls (usually just a seemingly random interger in the file that tells the program to do soemthing specific) on their applications though so they can't move to a totally open standard.
Rights-Managed HTML, yet another MS proprietary method to "embrace and extend" a known open standard.
RMH is a subformat of Microsoft's Rights Management System (tm). Yes, that's right, it's called RMS . How's that for doublespeak?
You WILL produce following documentation by (30days) or the following MS officers will report to jail for contempt of court... What part of 30 minutes would be necessary if capital punishment were involved?
You've got to give them some credit for the creatively sinister solutions they come up with. This reminds me of "Microsoft Would Settle For The Children."
If only they put so much innovation into their software...
I believe this is probably the first shot over the bow... so to speak. I see this, and other M$oft tactics, as a sign that they are getting ready to use the DMCA (and hopefully the IDUCE act if it *GASP* get's passed) to bully the wayward explorers that have moved away from them to the Open Source Initiative. They will end up wrapping EVERY file that is created through their programs in some for of DRM/File Encryption so that they can sue the pants of anyone who writes an import program, like Open Office and all the other Office "Compatible" suites. I think this is a step in the wrong direction that needs to be stopped before Microsoft has the right to deny the CIA or the President the right to view a document simply because it was created by Microsoft Word and they want to view it in open office.
The really scarry part... All the above coupled with "Trusted Computing" and you no longer own anything you create, you no longer own a "lifetime" license to the software you purchased, hell you don't even really OWN your hardware at that point............
And people wonder why geeks view M$oft as such a bad company. It's a perfect example of the damage that can be done by an entity that has a monopoly on the system.
Cliff Claven
K.E.G. Party Chairman
Founding Leader of: Koncerned for Egalitarin Governance
we can choose Acrobat reader or acrobat reader or xpds
great choice, lets load *another* 50mb program to read 10k of text and 100k of jpg's
Is it real? Is it fictional? What are TPS reports?
So, it takes Microsoft years to convert docs from one format to another... Perhaps instead of using e.g. some simple script they've hired a guy who spends whole days clicking, dragging & dropping. Definitely The Microsoft Way.
Now they will be forced to use MS windows to get to the documentation.
While that is unpleasant enough, perhaps more seriously, they will be forced to agree to Microsoft EULAs separate from the documentation in order to access the documentation.
I'm decidedly a Mac fanboy. I love using my Mac, and love that my shares in Apple have doubled from their purchase price. However, and not being a developer I could be wrong here, I thought it was often more difficult to develop Macintosh applications because more of the API's are hidden away and not for developers to see (relative to Windows). Again, I could be wrong, but I just figured that while Macs may be harder to develop for, it makes the end product easier to use.
The trusted software would prevent the trusted OS from allowing printscreen to work. The trusted hardware could check to ensure that the code hasn't been modified and that a tamper-proof certified monitor is attached. Then the subliminal patterns in the scan codes could inform your DRM enabled digital camera that it cannot take a photo, or if it does, to attach the appropriate DRM status on the resultant photo.
Of course you would only use a trusted camera on your trusted computer because nothing else would work.
Hardware companies would only get the certifier keys if they produce nothing but trusted hardware. The marketplace for non-trusted hardware being minimal since "only pirates need that stuff", conventional recording devices will fade into history.
Finally, yes, you could just write it down and key it back in, but your trusted software places your identity in your documents so that if you redistribute them, they'll have a fingerprint to find out who did it... and if you do manage to produce an untrusted document... no trusted computer will open it since it is not trusted.
DRM is a long term plan.
Come on, mods. Up this one - the parent of it is at 5, but this (or the other reply that clarifies that Microsoft is proposing DRM-encumbered documentation) needs to be visible too. It's not plain MHT format that Microsoft is trying to use.
It has almost nothing to do with the format being one that (for the moment) only internet explorer can read. It has everything to do with the fact that the documentation is in a format designed to lock out free software. (I can't imagine that the license for Microsoft's DRM developers toolkit would allow one to release implementing code in source form)
I suspect that Microsoft has already done the engineering and is just trying to figure out how to spin the egg they'll get on their face when this happens. I'm sure the word "terrorists" will somehow be involved.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Aside from not wanting to deliver the data in a format that can be read on a non- MS-Windows platform, there is the strategy of delay. It's a favorite of MS, but recently Cringley brought it up in the case of records retention:
There was another settlement a few years ago in which MS got an opponent to agree to destroy its court records from an earlier case against MS. Wish I could remember which company it or had a link to the description.If you look past the marketing and lobbying, there isn't much future for that company.
Beta is broken and the link to classic doesn't work. Stop wasting our time or there won't be anybody left here.
Typical Slashdot moderation, a funny and informative post modded as redundant.
be enlightened. There is no standard for when summer or winter starts, even in common parlance. And a number of other factors (latitude and longitude, culture, meteorological best practice ...) muddy the waters even more.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
They didn't even say what hemisphere!
Poor man, Micro$oft stole his initials!
Maybe they mean protected against RMS?
Billy and Steve are just like kids - na na na na na you can't have them - and the goverment just tolerates them. Both of them are just sitting back and laughing at all of us. what a joke - I wish they would just go away and let us do computing the way it was suppose to be done and not their way. thier os need a total rewrite from bottom up before I even think about touching it.
MHT documents encode text as qp (quoted printable), which adds little to the size of the file. Only binary files like gifs are encoded base64.
And yes, it's very easy to write a tool that separates an MHT into its original component files.
Do I get to dictate the terms under which I satisfy the court's orders?
Logic (not that logic has anything to do with our legal system) would suggest that if the court orders me to produce records, the court, not I now controls the records.
In the past, producing the records in one format or other would seem to satisfy the requirements of the court--the court now has the records, and I do not control them.
However, if I attempt to satisfy the court's order by producing records in a DRM format--one in which I control the use of the records--I have explicitly said "I, not the court, control those records."
Doesn't sound like I've produced much of anything at that point.
Is there a lawyer in the house?
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
That is why we have summaries, so you dont have to read the article.
Or are you to stupid to understand how news reporting works?
If the summary was wrong, then i will reconsider my statement. But, receiving flames because of not reading the article.. dont bother with that attitude of yours.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Microsoft is right up there in the top ten.
Why buy one when you can cover all bases?
With Kerry you get the bonus Democratic alignment with Hollywood though.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
But considering Microsoft is doing this as part of a court order, not out of the goodness of their hearts or anything, "it could be worse" is not good enough.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
Microsoft was created largely by some changes in IP law that created a niche for a software monopoly.
Containing that would be simple:
Require that all software for which the developer
wants IP protection have source code escrowed that would go into the public domain after some finite time(say 5-10 years).
Use Constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce to move taxes from the broad public onto companies that have a measurable degree of monopoly power.
Now this isn't being done because congress is intent on selling their offices to the highest bidder.
CopyRight laws should be similar to patent law. If you invent something but never patent it (ie keep it secret), then you do not get patent protections. If you publish something but make it physically uncopyable, then you should receive fewer legal protections.
> You didn't RTFA, you spew bunk and get modded "Insightful". You gotta love /.
:-).
Just means that particular moderator didn't RTFA either
Posted anonymously because I've moderated here, though not on the offending post...
Gates has always said that there isn't any judgement that he won't ignore (okay, so not the exact quote, but it is the intent).
Why is anyone surprised by MS actions?
The crock is that the law only applies to those who can't afford to get out of it. For Gates and such, laws are only inconveniences.
IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV
Breakfast served all day!
Thats ok Microsoft... I'll just print to my Adobe Acrobat writer, and live in PDF land. Nothin' you can do about it either... So sad. Too bad.
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What's so difficult about a read-only format? How difficult are PDFs to use in read-only mode? Isn't the document still useful if you can read it and obtain knowledge from it?
Secondly, come on people, why do we allow such editorializing in the main description of the stories? What ever happened to objective story summaries? Save the rehtoric for the story comments. It's just noise.
For the most part, they are like raw emails with a .mht extension, so much that there are probably many email readers that could be tricked into displaying them. There's nothing too proprietary about that.
Just because you don't pay money, doesn't mean it's free.
...oh, wait.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read...
Reminds me: My dad was a missionary to various countries in South America -- he spoke fluent Spanish. One day a fellow preacher came by, from the US (Estados Unidos), to give a grand Protestant sermon to the mostly Catholic-born natives. The title of his sermon (in English): "The Difference Between Righteousness by Faith and Justification by Faith". (Yes, humans often quibble over the finest of details.)
He had to take a seat, aghast and flabbergasted, after just ten minutes into his 90-minute sermon, when his translator (mi papa) explained to him that, in Spanish, there is only one word (Justicia) for his two words, Justification and Righteousness.
Freedom, sir... I'll take Freedom over Free, any day.
SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.
RMS -protected content in Internet Explorer.
Ooooo. Sweet irony.
The initials are the same as the founder of the FSF, author of the GPL and crusader for software freedom.
Perhaps this joke could be carried further if someone were to inquire of Microsoft whether RMS protection involved release under the GPL, which RMS has indicated best preserves our digital rights?
"Provided by the management for your protection."
Yes but this is slashdot. I doubt most of the readers understand the terms you are using. Throw sanctification in to the mix as well and watch some heads spin.
The word he was looking for would be virtuoso.
Free Unix? Free Windows. http://www.reactos.com
I wanted them to LGPL the source code to everyone except PC manufacturers. The source would be open forever but without allowing vertical markets to form. Just think of the innovation we'd see then...
"Justification" and "Righteousness" are technical terms from Christian theology. There are undoubtedly standard translations for each concept in Spanish used by Spanish speaking theologians. After all they've had, what, 450 years since Martin Luther to come up with them.
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Why dont they just add all this stuff to the online MSDN library along with all the other documentation on APIs and etc.
I guess they are getting their lawyers to find a licence for the documents that complies with the court order (or at least enough of it to keep the current DOJ/courts off their back) but contains a clause like "no-one other than microsoft can disttribute this information in any form" (which would be banning open source stuff from using it by stealth)
As the developer of MAF, I can say that Microsoft is 100% correct when they say that MHT is an open standard. MHT, however, is only a format and it's important to note that the resources in an MHT are not necessarily standard. A good example of this is MHTs created by Office applications. Yes, it's an MHT format, but the contents of the MHTs are HTML with MS specific XML tags all over the place. The problem therefore is twofold, not only would you have to decrypt this RMH file to get an MHT file, but the decoded MHT file may also not be displayed properly due to MS specific content. This is why MAF can create and open MHTs saved by Internet Explorer, but not ones created by MS Office applications.
Regards,
Christopher.
Microsoft laughs at the DoJ...
Why? Because the DoJ had Microsoft and was bribed or politically pressured to let them off the hook.