The actual best advice I can give from actual project exp is that most of the old farts know never and I repeat ever depend on a recruiter to get your foot into the door and the job!
My best techniques are to get a hold of the CEO and CTO of the company and blow my own horn about my qualifications..
You would be surpirsed at how many CEOs and CTOs actually want to hear form the applicant without all the filtering that recruiters try to do..
Why? Imagine a non tech recruiter trying to recruit for perl programmers.now Imagine how the ad comes out:
Wanted 2 years exp in Pearl
No I am not joking you still see these ads
Unlike he says tech recruiting is done primary by non tech people with no exp in your field..its better to go right to the hiring manager..better odds..
What opens the door to CEOs and CTOs:
1- Ask specific tech and proejct related questions..put yourself in the architect seat or the CTO seat and think about what questions need to be answered to make the project a success.
2- Always be grasious and polite no matter what answer you get back.
3- Use consise questions and respect their time
Okay last point how to network around recruiters
Go to those sites where recruiters ads are easy to spot so that you can filter them out, sites such as:
guru.com
craigslist.org
javalobby.org
Remember you want to increase your chances not decrease them so avoid high recruiter trafficed sites like monster.com and dice.com
Isee this saem arguement again and again in many forms..
From oh India programmers will take away all high paying jobs..
oh this that and other..
With more than 10 billion in the world economy ideas are not unique and special..but that unique programing implementation is..
Thats why its called sofware engineering..
Want to beat India programmers and own your next million dollar company desing the code around a unique implementation..that no one has done..
Remember no one makes money making an ebay or mazone clone..
I would say that in High tech you are allowed to think and reason..in factories this is not the case..they expect you to be dumb sheep and look for that particular hiring trait..
The next Woz is out there are you ready for his or her new products to wow your mind?
Most countries that signed the geneva convention for copyrights woudl agree that the DMCA is illgeal subjecting them to a treaty they did not sign or law..
Remember the egroups buy out debacle? Where Yahoo thought that it could buy out egroups and implement ads in every freakign group message and thought that would somehow encourage more people to use those groups and clik on the ads..
The only ones now that use free email are spammers and scam artists unless yahoo is willing to market to them to get the cash its too little too late..
Look at this way most isps offer web email access.. what does a yahoo email accoutn bring to the table in addtion to this...Nothing!
Geeks do not code in English
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Its funny how our government thinks or re4fuses to think when spouting garabage..
Here are the characteristics of a terroris as paraphrazed directy from FBI stuff:
1 Disenfranchisement with society..ie doens;t fit in..
2 Social and economically doesn't contribute to society..may be on low economic ladder or both low social and economic ladder
3 Unstable mental state or lacking in analytical and critical thinking skills to process or analyze information..ie a sucker as Barnum and Baily Circus woudl say
any trained socialogist or mental doctor can point out to the fbi which grousp of people fit this category..you infiltrate these grousp and then whne the terrorist groups show up to recruit nab them.. simple!
Rather than take awy our rights the government should get educated on how world dominance and eploitation produces these set gorups of people in the first place!
But I don't expect Bush's oil frineds to understand this..
MS uses Netscape's plugin api.. the only way this company could sue Microsoft and have judge take serious is if it did not limit itself to suing Microsoft..
Question jow many current IT people in your staff grduated with CS degrees of your current IT staff total..my bet its ()% or higher..
You could support the opne source software you use with your own staff no need ofr outside high consultant fess did you even look at that possiblity?
Opensource is opne for a reason! To make it easy to change or update code to ad dnew functionality with current staff without having to go outside for long term full-time support..
It snot always the case but in your case you need to look at this option rather than make some embarrsing wonrg assumptions..
a lesson for Politicians including Bill Gates
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A small no name politician can get the greatest amount of positive press to the public my egging on some big dumb large name politician with *hit for brains to talk about the no name politician in negative terms..
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Well that is the only way MS would sell Linux or BSD software...
ah Commrade is there any Soivet russia anymore?
..but the can't findit its not on kids.kid
Ah does anyone remember that you can get the information straight form the linux code sun is adding to get Linux to run on sparc?
People please check your facts before posting..
ah you have it wrong by public performance they mean tha tyou the person are performing themusic not trunign the radio or tv on....
Someone should tell him that if he has video I should be able to get itposted at live.curry.com the owner is an online friend of mine...:)
a different conclusion?
okay people we need the links to salary surveys of both Linux and MSCe professionals to counter with an editorial rebuttal to IDC..
I rea done not 8 motnhs ago but cannot recall who did the survey..was it DIce.com?
The actual best advice I can give from actual project exp is that most of the old farts know never and I repeat ever depend on a recruiter to get your foot into the door and the job!
My best techniques are to get a hold of the CEO and CTO of the company and blow my own horn about my qualifications..
You would be surpirsed at how many CEOs and CTOs actually want to hear form the applicant without all the filtering that recruiters try to do..
Why? Imagine a non tech recruiter trying to recruit for perl programmers.now Imagine how the ad comes out:
Wanted 2 years exp in Pearl
No I am not joking you still see these ads
Unlike he says tech recruiting is done primary by non tech people with no exp in your field..its better to go right to the hiring manager..better odds..
What opens the door to CEOs and CTOs:
1- Ask specific tech and proejct related questions..put yourself in the architect seat or the CTO seat and think about what questions need to be answered to make the project a success.
2- Always be grasious and polite no matter what answer you get back.
3- Use consise questions and respect their time
Okay last point how to network around recruiters
Go to those sites where recruiters ads are easy to spot so that you can filter them out, sites such as:
guru.com
craigslist.org
javalobby.org
Remember you want to increase your chances not decrease them so avoid high recruiter trafficed sites like monster.com and dice.com
..to Bill Gate Clueless Phone..
line 2 Bill..pick it up!
Isee this saem arguement again and again in many forms..
From oh India programmers will take away all high paying jobs..
oh this that and other..
With more than 10 billion in the world economy ideas are not unique and special..but that unique programing implementation is..
Thats why its called sofware engineering..
Want to beat India programmers and own your next million dollar company desing the code around a unique implementation..that no one has done..
Remember no one makes money making an ebay or mazone clone..
I would say that in High tech you are allowed to think and reason..in factories this is not the case..they expect you to be dumb sheep and look for that particular hiring trait..
The next Woz is out there are you ready for his or her new products to wow your mind?
Most countries that signed the geneva convention for copyrights woudl agree that the DMCA is illgeal subjecting them to a treaty they did not sign or law..
So did they use Ashcroft as wel as automatice weapons to take them down?
The new Darth Vader fo this centruy and the FBI, Ashcroft..
A good job the MS PR department would be after this disaster:
1 Convince us Michael Jackson is black despite the Photos
2 Convince RMS that BIll Gates si a friend via Barney toys
3 Convince Saddam to advocate his rule in Iraq.
that to choose awomen, you must see her without her makeup..
:)
Bill Gate looked better without makeup than RMS did
THis is too little too late..
Remember the egroups buy out debacle? Where Yahoo thought that it could buy out egroups and implement ads in every freakign group message and thought that would somehow encourage more people to use those groups and clik on the ads..
The only ones now that use free email are spammers and scam artists unless yahoo is willing to market to them to get the cash its too little too late..
Look at this way most isps offer web email access.. what does a yahoo email accoutn bring to the table in addtion to this...Nothing!
All right you Lisp people shut UP!
I am going to suggest something different, work different:
Fin some thecnology problem that is interesting to you to solve thast you have no skills in, do the research, gain the skills, and solve the problem..
If you do all these steps, the job wil find you..its alonger process than job hunting in a good economy but I think you may be more satisfied
Is Groove included in the ban? Groove is P2p as well..would not want all those management types that work from home to go unwanted and not banned :)
Its funny how our government thinks or re4fuses to think when spouting garabage..
Here are the characteristics of a terroris as paraphrazed directy from FBI stuff:
1 Disenfranchisement with society..ie doens;t fit in..
2 Social and economically doesn't contribute to society..may be on low economic ladder or both low social and economic ladder
3 Unstable mental state or lacking in analytical and critical thinking skills to process or analyze information..ie a sucker as Barnum and Baily Circus woudl say
any trained socialogist or mental doctor can point out to the fbi which grousp of people fit this category..you infiltrate these grousp and then whne the terrorist groups show up to recruit nab them.. simple!
Rather than take awy our rights the government should get educated on how world dominance and eploitation produces these set gorups of people in the first place!
But I don't expect Bush's oil frineds to understand this..
Only thing is it doesn;t work.. hmm MS Beta release?
MS uses Netscape's plugin api.. the only way this company could sue Microsoft and have judge take serious is if it did not limit itself to suing Microsoft..
Is this a twinof Alan Kay or maybe tha tluckless former foudner and CEO of BeOS
PGP is alreeady a standard in encyrption for use in xml ..what is a matter you don;t read rfcs and drafts at ITEF? shame on YOU!
Question jow many current IT people in your staff grduated with CS degrees of your current IT staff total..my bet its ()% or higher..
You could support the opne source software you use with your own staff no need ofr outside high consultant fess did you even look at that possiblity?
Opensource is opne for a reason! To make it easy to change or update code to ad dnew functionality with current staff without having to go outside for long term full-time support..
It snot always the case but in your case you need to look at this option rather than make some embarrsing wonrg assumptions..
A small no name politician can get the greatest amount of positive press to the public my egging on some big dumb large name politician with *hit for brains to talk about the no name politician in negative terms..