There's a really big cultural shift, between the great industries of yore, like Ford selling farmers pickups and tractors so they can do new things, and modern silicon valley trying to do things FOR people, total control, centralized power. Programming skills aren't conducive to the latter, one of many ways the latter is a bad direction.
This is the real elephant in the room: https://www.bizjournals.com/da... Bezos and Buffet have buddy buddy in some interesting ways lately, if the blockchain supply chain fires up under Amazon, it's a done deal. Forbes on same thing: https://www.forbes.com/sites/b...
But what is ownership of a likeness? The right of someone to broadcast that image into your brain via screen. But deepfakes are from Deepmind, based off the brain, and probably tied to tech that can do things like reconstruct images from the brain. If I dream of a celebrity do I not own my dream, or am I forbidden from communicating my dream in this most direct fashion?
Reddit & crew are making a big mistake. This genie has been out of the bottle for years, and the more they hide it, the more they perpetuate the trend of manipulation via "access to secret information" that isn't real. Wanna keep people believing outrageous things about officials? Suppress the knowledge of this tech.
Plot twist, what if some of the deepfake stuff IS real, and was being held as blackmail material over the actresses, so they made the porn videos (which were the real deepfakes) off the threatening blackmail videos, and released the real videos of themselves as fakes?
If a company becomes a communications platform, it needs to be regulated to preserve first amendment rights if it gets huge. That's the real deal issue around net neutrality, you can get rid of a lot of the common carrier baggage if you just have that protection.
I think the bigger danger is what "broadly trusted" means. It means more penetration to the media players who are already rich, with independent voices pushed out. I'll take free speech anyday.
The difference between the average person (IQ 100) and and a legally retarded guy in a helmet (IQ 70) is the same as between a bright college guy (IQ 115) and a really dull witted convict (IQ 85) is the difference between a professor (IQ 130) and average guy. Maybe the gap becomes too big for the brainy prof to care about winning popularity contest?
Edge power is what matters too. I bet spectre and meltdown are the beginning, and in time we'll know a million good reasons to have separate devices rather than EVERYONE'S CODE running on the same machines, aka the cloud. Augment, backup, do whatever with the cloud, but keep the power on the individual machine, keep it robust, tough and reliable. Cowboys use Android but Google goes for hipsters to their loss.
If central location to areas served is key, Chicago is gonna win. If pleasant and pretty place, Nashville. If angering Trump, Atlanta. If kissing federal butt, DC.
Ford will be fine for a long time, but if he can get semis in industrial niches, his trucks will find a market. More than half of trucks are just for work. I hope he truly makes a mini semi, which is to say w/sleeper, or mod to box truck or rv: what's needed in truck is modularity, to turn it into exactly what you want need. Ford is great with this invtrucks vans.
But those details don't matter in larger picture. By bringing AI into it, it signals the willingness of the US to use dangerous tech that should be kept out into even a petty conflict, justifying an AI arms race worldwide. Bad move!
An algorithm is torturing me as we speak, they are worth a closer look. But its all about problems not intended by algorithm designers, so where liability lies is confusing. E.g a racially green programmer favors education for hiring, but education is correlated with money, and legacy racism made green families lower income than blue families, so the algorithm picks blue people overlooking green people.
Yep, and what happened back then? They moved the culture until all anti fascist voices in Germany were outside the realm of 'acceptable discourse', just like pro Nazi comments are on Cloudflare. The best defense against totalitarian ideals is free speech, where all discourse is acceptable.
Not now, but at present Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, and more have all come out in support of net neutrality.
I'm old. Slashdot 14 years ago was talking in desperation about MS monopoly, which fell apart at hands of Google, Apple. Also, the awful cell phone monopoly, e.g. Nokia flipphones with $60 proprietary chargers that broke all the time, totally wiped out by iphone. If ISPs overreach, the combined power of these companies can offer replacements, and win. Forcing people to buy junk depending on monopoly status is usually a horrible business strategy.
There's a lot of foot in door speculation about what the private sector could do, if its things like low latency traffic for gamers, it'll be fine. If its going back to permanent tracking cookies injected: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/... It'll fail in the free market, as consumers seek net neutral providers. Don't forget the effects of unethical financial products, the 2008 housing meltdown with govt bailout. What could the 2020 ISP meltdown look like??? If they're not ethical, we'll find out.
Interesting point. Really, you need to look for *anything* low entropy, anything where the improbable has become probable through natural selection and reproduction: polarization, chemical, boulders balanced on hills, etc. Anything weird.
"I assert that there is no task that is well defined enough to be used as a proof-of-work algorithm that isn't also well suited to being done more efficiently in a special-purpose chip."
Thanks to all for your explanations. That's a really interesting assertion, for all of computer science, not just crypto coins. A stronger version would say for any PoW, an architecture exists which does it faster, while doing other ops *substantially slower* than a more general architecture, if at all. If true there's no one proof of general compute capacity that can't be fudged!
What I'm not understanding here is why the chips you describe aren't useful for general purpose computing, and thus will be seen on GPUs and the like. Equihash is nice, if it function not only as a proof of work but also as a proof of general computing capacity. I'm not convinced from what you say that's not the case.
Smart post... Bitcoin is proof of energy production capacity, which in a world gaining AI and robotics is equivalent to the capacity to produce EVERYTHING. It seems renewables are the way to go with it, as a renewable source that can sustain itself (with a little love from robotics AI) is equivalent to an ever flowing cornucopia of money, because it's equivalent to an ever flowing cornucopia of wealth in terms of production capacity. This is because it all comes back to energy in a robotic world, mining the metal for the robots, tree planting and harvesting, all of it.
The question with any currency is how is it envalued, how its mapped to worldly wealth. The Fed creates money as debt for production of things like new businesses, to make sure the dollars printed correspond with worldly value produced, to avoid inflation (or deflation for too much value to little coin). If Bitcoin production becomes a testament of energy production capacity, coupled with some kind of a construct that relates to the sustainability of the energy produced, its valuation becomes tied in every way, as robotics and AI advance, to everything in the world, its value is enshrined forever. That construct is important though, that idea of ongoing sustainable energy production needs to be there, or the risk exists of collapse into a local minima of burning limited fossil fuels, at the cost of actual wealth production. In this case, you get the situation where the valuation of bitcoin is consuming fossil fuels from hospitals and farmers as its price keeps going up, and people will question its valuation and it will collapse. You need a construct that leans a little on future productions going to infinity, but the challenge is figuring out what that looks like.
"Against the dollar" really is the key phrase. There's a scenario where bitcoin holders can basically take over the federal reserve functionality, if Fed keeps printing money and Wall st. keeps stashing it in bitcoin, inflationary signs will never appear because if they do it right they've created a parallel economy the Fed is pumping up. There's a seemingly absurd point where the valuation of bitcoin becomes higher than the valuation of the tech that supports it, but really you can't say where the ceiling is, when its taken on niches like absorbing excess printed money from the Fed.
Actually, you have to look at who's AIs are in the game, they are not all created equal. Facebook isn't playing at the level of Alphabet, and there's rumors of some companies out there at the edge of the defense world with some scary stuff the public isn't fully up to speed with yet. Have no doubt that AI can beat these players.
Good point, but there's a pretty strong evolutionary argument I think. Why wouldn't everyone be smart if there wasn't a cost? Its hard to imagine high IQ not helping with survival.
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There's a really big cultural shift, between the great industries of yore, like Ford selling farmers pickups and tractors so they can do new things, and modern silicon valley trying to do things FOR people, total control, centralized power. Programming skills aren't conducive to the latter, one of many ways the latter is a bad direction.
This is the real elephant in the room:
https://www.bizjournals.com/da...
Bezos and Buffet have buddy buddy in some interesting ways lately, if the blockchain supply chain fires up under Amazon, it's a done deal. Forbes on same thing:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/b...
But what is ownership of a likeness? The right of someone to broadcast that image into your brain via screen. But deepfakes are from Deepmind, based off the brain, and probably tied to tech that can do things like reconstruct images from the brain. If I dream of a celebrity do I not own my dream, or am I forbidden from communicating my dream in this most direct fashion?
Reddit & crew are making a big mistake. This genie has been out of the bottle for years, and the more they hide it, the more they perpetuate the trend of manipulation via "access to secret information" that isn't real. Wanna keep people believing outrageous things about officials? Suppress the knowledge of this tech.
Plot twist, what if some of the deepfake stuff IS real, and was being held as blackmail material over the actresses, so they made the porn videos (which were the real deepfakes) off the threatening blackmail videos, and released the real videos of themselves as fakes?
Most insightful post here, modded to zero!
https://news.google.com/news/a...
If a company becomes a communications platform, it needs to be regulated to preserve first amendment rights if it gets huge. That's the real deal issue around net neutrality, you can get rid of a lot of the common carrier baggage if you just have that protection.
I think the bigger danger is what "broadly trusted" means. It means more penetration to the media players who are already rich, with independent voices pushed out. I'll take free speech anyday.
The difference between the average person (IQ 100) and and a legally retarded guy in a helmet (IQ 70) is the same as between a bright college guy (IQ 115) and a really dull witted convict (IQ 85) is the difference between a professor (IQ 130) and average guy. Maybe the gap becomes too big for the brainy prof to care about winning popularity contest?
God, what if 120 is the universal peak, and smarter and smarter AIs will be too incompetent at leadership to do anything?
Edge power is what matters too. I bet spectre and meltdown are the beginning, and in time we'll know a million good reasons to have separate devices rather than EVERYONE'S CODE running on the same machines, aka the cloud. Augment, backup, do whatever with the cloud, but keep the power on the individual machine, keep it robust, tough and reliable. Cowboys use Android but Google goes for hipsters to their loss.
If central location to areas served is key, Chicago is gonna win. If pleasant and pretty place, Nashville. If angering Trump, Atlanta. If kissing federal butt, DC.
Ford will be fine for a long time, but if he can get semis in industrial niches, his trucks will find a market. More than half of trucks are just for work. I hope he truly makes a mini semi, which is to say w/sleeper, or mod to box truck or rv: what's needed in truck is modularity, to turn it into exactly what you want need. Ford is great with this invtrucks vans.
And Russia is on the same track:
https://www.rt.com/news/414107...
Damn it.
But those details don't matter in larger picture. By bringing AI into it, it signals the willingness of the US to use dangerous tech that should be kept out into even a petty conflict, justifying an AI arms race worldwide. Bad move!
An algorithm is torturing me as we speak, they are worth a closer look. But its all about problems not intended by algorithm designers, so where liability lies is confusing. E.g a racially green programmer favors education for hiring, but education is correlated with money, and legacy racism made green families lower income than blue families, so the algorithm picks blue people overlooking green people.
Yep, and what happened back then? They moved the culture until all anti fascist voices in Germany were outside the realm of 'acceptable discourse', just like pro Nazi comments are on Cloudflare. The best defense against totalitarian ideals is free speech, where all discourse is acceptable.
Not now, but at present Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, and more have all come out in support of net neutrality.
I'm old. Slashdot 14 years ago was talking in desperation about MS monopoly, which fell apart at hands of Google, Apple. Also, the awful cell phone monopoly, e.g. Nokia flipphones with $60 proprietary chargers that broke all the time, totally wiped out by iphone. If ISPs overreach, the combined power of these companies can offer replacements, and win. Forcing people to buy junk depending on monopoly status is usually a horrible business strategy.
There's a lot of foot in door speculation about what the private sector could do, if its things like low latency traffic for gamers, it'll be fine. If its going back to permanent tracking cookies injected:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...
It'll fail in the free market, as consumers seek net neutral providers. Don't forget the effects of unethical financial products, the 2008 housing meltdown with govt bailout. What could the 2020 ISP meltdown look like??? If they're not ethical, we'll find out.
Interesting point. Really, you need to look for *anything* low entropy, anything where the improbable has become probable through natural selection and reproduction: polarization, chemical, boulders balanced on hills, etc. Anything weird.
"I assert that there is no task that is well defined enough to be used as a proof-of-work algorithm that isn't also well suited to being done more efficiently in a special-purpose chip."
Thanks to all for your explanations. That's a really interesting assertion, for all of computer science, not just crypto coins. A stronger version would say for any PoW, an architecture exists which does it faster, while doing other ops *substantially slower* than a more general architecture, if at all. If true there's no one proof of general compute capacity that can't be fudged!
What I'm not understanding here is why the chips you describe aren't useful for general purpose computing, and thus will be seen on GPUs and the like. Equihash is nice, if it function not only as a proof of work but also as a proof of general computing capacity. I'm not convinced from what you say that's not the case.
Smart post... Bitcoin is proof of energy production capacity, which in a world gaining AI and robotics is equivalent to the capacity to produce EVERYTHING. It seems renewables are the way to go with it, as a renewable source that can sustain itself (with a little love from robotics AI) is equivalent to an ever flowing cornucopia of money, because it's equivalent to an ever flowing cornucopia of wealth in terms of production capacity. This is because it all comes back to energy in a robotic world, mining the metal for the robots, tree planting and harvesting, all of it.
The question with any currency is how is it envalued, how its mapped to worldly wealth. The Fed creates money as debt for production of things like new businesses, to make sure the dollars printed correspond with worldly value produced, to avoid inflation (or deflation for too much value to little coin). If Bitcoin production becomes a testament of energy production capacity, coupled with some kind of a construct that relates to the sustainability of the energy produced, its valuation becomes tied in every way, as robotics and AI advance, to everything in the world, its value is enshrined forever. That construct is important though, that idea of ongoing sustainable energy production needs to be there, or the risk exists of collapse into a local minima of burning limited fossil fuels, at the cost of actual wealth production. In this case, you get the situation where the valuation of bitcoin is consuming fossil fuels from hospitals and farmers as its price keeps going up, and people will question its valuation and it will collapse. You need a construct that leans a little on future productions going to infinity, but the challenge is figuring out what that looks like.
"Against the dollar" really is the key phrase. There's a scenario where bitcoin holders can basically take over the federal reserve functionality, if Fed keeps printing money and Wall st. keeps stashing it in bitcoin, inflationary signs will never appear because if they do it right they've created a parallel economy the Fed is pumping up. There's a seemingly absurd point where the valuation of bitcoin becomes higher than the valuation of the tech that supports it, but really you can't say where the ceiling is, when its taken on niches like absorbing excess printed money from the Fed.
Actually, you have to look at who's AIs are in the game, they are not all created equal. Facebook isn't playing at the level of Alphabet, and there's rumors of some companies out there at the edge of the defense world with some scary stuff the public isn't fully up to speed with yet. Have no doubt that AI can beat these players.
Good point, but there's a pretty strong evolutionary argument I think. Why wouldn't everyone be smart if there wasn't a cost? Its hard to imagine high IQ not helping with survival.