Well, I for one don't mind seeing the federal government take its time on this and do it right. If the Government does enact a law, and it doesn't conform to the Canadian Charter of Rights
b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.
While I agree that harassment is not protected speech, I am a bit concerned by what "other media of communication" could be interpreted to mean.
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This is the reference to the case. It's partially in English and partially in French. If I find the part of the case where the Judge discusses bans on software, I'll post it.
The act, fact, or condition of holding something in one's possession, as real estate or an office; occupation.
A period during which something is held. The status of holding one's position on a permanent basis without periodic contract renewals: a teacher granted tenure on a faculty.
I don't know what good unions could really do in a situation like this. I'm sure there are ways to union bust. If you don't bow to management, they'll just bankrupt the company and reform it later or transfer jobs to a non-unionised facility. With governments not generally sympathetic to labour in at least the English speaking countries, I don't see how that would be difficult.
This nonsense makes me glad I work for the government. The work is not difficult, (but not so boring that I fall asleep on the job, for now) and the pay is not bad, but I know I'll have a job, and if it is made redundant, at least I know I'll be well compensated for a layoff.
I do remember however a time in Ontario where provincial employees were asked to take unpaid holidays in order to prevent layoffs. The unions rebelled against the provincial government (NDP -[left of centre]), helped bring them down and put in place a dogmatic conservative government who cut the workforce drastically. I guess the point of this is, the "temporary" pay cut you take now, will probably not be enough and you will be not likely to reap the benefits of your loyalty and sacrifice.
I find it positively disgusting that these companies are installing this level of spyware on users machines. I mean, collecting demographics is one thing (obviously a massive invasion of privacy, but not really destructive) but stealing CPU cycles and hard drive space? I am appalled. Have these people no decency? My computer is my castle
While I agree that this is crass and parasitic, I wonder why this is a surprise. These companies have made buckets o' cash helping us "steal" the works of "artists". Is it really any surprise that they would have turned on thier clients and
tried to steal from them?
This nonsense makes me glad I have never used kazaa and only used the Linux command line satellite.
Jenn
use your own words for the words in quotations "borrow, use, share, record companies, greedy agents etc"
However, the time has definitely come that it needs to be implemented.
I have been lucky with my ISP, I run my domain off of my ADSL connection, which I basically use for mail (
When I first got ADSL in early 2000, I was such a piglet on the bandwidth. I was using Napster and I was getting into Linux. I gave up on file sharing after Napster got tanked only because I got bored of it, but when I was downloading, I would have flipped out on Bell for putting up limits. Also, I know what distros I like (Slack/Mandrake) and buy them when they come out. It's just easier. Now, my use is lower, but I like the "always on" connection and have no problem paying for the data I download/upload. It's just that's more easily said after the novelty of the High-Speed connection wears off. If anything, the ISPs could simply limit the bandwidth of a new client in the beginning and release the limits as the client is around longer. It would encourage customer loyalty (something very much lacking due to the crappy service/support we get from the ISPs), and chances are we wouldn't have the bandwidth issues we have now because the resource hogs would just move on.
Well, last time I was in England, I was so disappointed. I couldn't justify paying £15+ for CDs, mind you I was shopping in places like Virgin Superstone & HMV at Picadilly (chain stores in touristy central London), but even £15 is over $35.00 Canadian and at an HMV here a lot of the same crap is $15-$23. I just don't understand how things can cost twice as much in different countries. It's not like the cost of producing cds have any relationship to the selling price anyhow.
I had the unfortunate privilege of firing a secretary at work. I got tired of staying late doing the work she didn't. Not only did she goof off with her internet usage, but she was pissing everyone around her off with incesant use of greeting gard sites. She thought we all needed greeting cards. Not only are they noisy (why did they give us soundcards & speakers at work?) But everyone in the office started to get spammed. I first edited her hosts file to block them out on her, but she would just use others.
Be careful what you cheer for. Your enemy's enemy is not your friend. AOLTW is part of the RIAA & MPAA. Rather than trying to take control of your comuter, they want to control your CD players, DVD players, cassette players & VCRs.
Here goes my karma, not that I have much, but alas, this is off topic.
For the extra 40 cents, I would take a cup of Starbucks coffee over Tim Horton's, though I would rather go to a small Italian espresso bar than any chain. As far as economic nationalism goes, ummm, Tim Horton's os owned by Wendy's. Anyhow, I don't understand the popularity of Tim Horton's coffee. I just chalked the lineups at Tim Horton's in Ottawa to the fact that we have a large population of government drones who have no taste.
I guess from now on, when we fill out forms, we use a Vermont address. Since I get opt-in email from Killington, I'll use theirs, and pick up my mail when I go skiing this month.
I have my Mac SE on a serial connection to my Slackware 8 box. I use links & lynx to connect to the apache server which hosts a site with recipes on it. My boyfriend thinks I'm overdoing it, but it's cute and useful, but to have a fridge/freezer liking like an 80s mac, that would be too exciting.
Brilliant idea....It only works for those who have domains. Then again, getting a domain is fairly easy, all you have to do is respond to a spam email soliciting domain registrations.
We have to be more vigilant. Up until a few years ago Ontario driver's licences were in two parts. One part was a photo and a date of birth, and the other part was the licence number and my address. Going to clubs, I would only show my photo part, and it was amazing how many times, the other part was demanded by bouncers et al.
Another experience I had with ID issues was on a holiday in the US. I split off from a friend and came home early. I was pulled by a NY State Trooper over a ridiculous reason (stopping to avoid hitting a racoon, where there was no stop sign or red light [no-one teaches animals rules of the road]). I gave them my passport and Driver's Licence, but they insisted on my Social Insurance Number. The SIN Number is property of the Government of Canada, and is only to be used in dealing with issues of taxation, investment or employment. I had the privilege of spending a night in jail and having it taken from my purse in order to get it.
If we offer more information to people than what is required in any particular situation, then we shouldn't be surprised when others, governments, companies expect it, or already have it stored in databases.
I think socialist cesspool is a slight exaggeration.
Social democratic sauna maybe? Liberal wading pool?
Left-of-centre waterslide?
All kidding aside, I think you should re-examine your comments. The market is no more free in the US than Canada. Large multi-nationals control the agenda, just like they do in all developed countries. If the market doesn't work in their favour, they can buy a politician and manipulate the economy to suit.
It was a company called Taima. iStar outsourced their tech support to them. It's not a job I enjoyed though some of the people were fun, interesting etc.
I haven't done tech support for iSTAR/Interlog/PSI for almost two years now, but I remember that we used to get so many calls from people everywhere who were shocked at the cost of iPASS and who had problems getting an SMTP server. For people who went to the UK, I just advised them to get one of those ubiquitous 'free' services that gouge you on the cost of the call and toss the disk when they come back. They'd know what their server names are and not have to worry about the unreliable iPASS authentication server. Also, if the purpose was just to get mail, just dial back to Canada. Long distance is cheaper than iPASS.
CDs are bloody expensive here, but the last time I was last over in the UK in October, music sold at HMV there was approximately in £UK what similar music sold at HMV in Canada in $Canadian, (though the British selection was better for a chain store). I doubt that that will change much in the near future. If anybody should take issue with music prices, it should be the Brits. It's too bad that dialup is so expensive, and DSL and cable (if available within the next 5 years) is so damn expensive too.
I'm guilty! I got my burner in 1999, and I think the the screws weren't even tightened before I was borrowing CDs to copy. In retrospect, CDs were not terribly impressive and I probably wouldn't have bought the CDs anyhow. Oh well! I have downloaded a lot of music off of Napster in the few months that it was insanely busy and managed to do about 20 CDS of mp3s. The fact is the novelty wore off and I went back to buying. I am sure that my experience is not terribly unique. If anything, I would assume that people like the RIAA encouraged this behaviour excess attention downloading or borrowing and burning.
Oh one more thing, could we get a rebate on the media that we 'accidentally' turn into coasters?
Rant Rant Rant....Though it contributes nothing to the debate.
Ummm, as much as I really, really want to agree with you about the hour challenge, I think you are dreaming in technicolour. Change it to a day and you are probably closer to the truth. The fact is windows is slightly easier to use, because, firstly, you have no choice, things are done their way and secondly, people have more windows users to rely on for backup.
I didn't understand how tricky windows could be until I got a call for help from a friend (20 year unix user, 6 year linux user) needing help setting up a nic card (an ISA NE2000 compatible with no irq conflicts) on a windows machine. I managed to get it to work after 5 reboots, removing unknown device in the system control panel and finally removing the network components. I was able to do it for her, but the experience came from a lot of banging my head against a wall when I was on the help desk. What is so hard about typing su then a password and netconfig followed by a few questions?
Thanks for letting me rant.
jenn
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b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.
While I agree that harassment is not protected speech, I am a bit concerned by what "other media of communication" could be interpreted to mean.
Ditto if she is going to school in Windsor.
from the judgment
27 En conséquence :
[...]
g) that he abstain from using or being in possession of any software other than that which may be obtained through legal retail sales in Canada;
[...]
LE JUGE GILLES L. OUELLET
R. c. M.C. [2001] J.Q. no 4318
CtQuéJeun - 2001 Sep 12
JQ 73732 - score: 129
approx. 9 pages
This is the reference to the case. It's partially in English and partially in French. If I find the part of the case where the Judge discusses bans on software, I'll post it.
I hope this helps
tenure n.
The act, fact, or condition of holding something in one's possession, as real estate or an office; occupation.
A period during which something is held.
The status of holding one's position on a permanent basis without periodic contract
renewals: a teacher granted tenure on a faculty.
I don't know what good unions could really do in a situation like this. I'm sure there are ways to union bust. If you don't bow to management, they'll just bankrupt the company and reform it later or transfer jobs to a non-unionised facility. With governments not generally sympathetic to labour in at least the English speaking countries, I don't see how that would be difficult.
This nonsense makes me glad I work for the government. The work is not difficult, (but not so boring that I fall asleep on the job, for now) and the pay is not bad, but I know I'll have a job, and if it is made redundant, at least I know I'll be well compensated for a layoff.
I do remember however a time in Ontario where provincial employees were asked to take unpaid holidays in order to prevent layoffs. The unions rebelled against the provincial government (NDP -[left of centre]), helped bring them down and put in place a dogmatic conservative government who cut the workforce drastically. I guess the point of this is, the "temporary" pay cut you take now, will probably not be enough and you will be not likely to reap the benefits of your loyalty and sacrifice.
While I agree that this is crass and parasitic, I wonder why this is a surprise. These companies have made buckets o' cash helping us "steal" the works of "artists". Is it really any surprise that they would have turned on thier clients and tried to steal from them? This nonsense makes me glad I have never used kazaa and only used the Linux command line satellite. Jenn use your own words for the words in quotations "borrow, use, share, record companies, greedy agents etc"
I have been lucky with my ISP, I run my domain off of my ADSL connection, which I basically use for mail ( When I first got ADSL in early 2000, I was such a piglet on the bandwidth. I was using Napster and I was getting into Linux. I gave up on file sharing after Napster got tanked only because I got bored of it, but when I was downloading, I would have flipped out on Bell for putting up limits. Also, I know what distros I like (Slack/Mandrake) and buy them when they come out. It's just easier. Now, my use is lower, but I like the "always on" connection and have no problem paying for the data I download/upload. It's just that's more easily said after the novelty of the High-Speed connection wears off. If anything, the ISPs could simply limit the bandwidth of a new client in the beginning and release the limits as the client is around longer. It would encourage customer loyalty (something very much lacking due to the crappy service/support we get from the ISPs), and chances are we wouldn't have the bandwidth issues we have now because the resource hogs would just move on.
Well, last time I was in England, I was so disappointed. I couldn't justify paying £15+ for CDs, mind you I was shopping in places like Virgin Superstone & HMV at Picadilly (chain stores in touristy central London), but even £15 is over $35.00 Canadian and at an HMV here a lot of the same crap is $15-$23. I just don't understand how things can cost twice as much in different countries. It's not like the cost of producing cds have any relationship to the selling price anyhow.
I bet there isnt even 10,000 hours in 30 days.
Febrary has 672 or 696 hours. April, June September & November have 720 hours. January, March, May, July, August, October & December have 744.
I had the unfortunate privilege of firing a secretary at work. I got tired of staying late doing the work she didn't. Not only did she goof off with her internet usage, but she was pissing everyone around her off with incesant use of greeting gard sites. She thought we all needed greeting cards. Not only are they noisy (why did they give us soundcards & speakers at work?) But everyone in the office started to get spammed. I first edited her hosts file to block them out on her, but she would just use others.
Be careful what you cheer for. Your enemy's enemy is not your friend. AOLTW is part of the RIAA & MPAA. Rather than trying to take control of your comuter, they want to control your CD players, DVD players, cassette players & VCRs.
Here goes my karma, not that I have much, but alas, this is off topic.
For the extra 40 cents, I would take a cup of Starbucks coffee over Tim Horton's, though I would rather go to a small Italian espresso bar than any chain. As far as economic nationalism goes, ummm, Tim Horton's os owned by Wendy's. Anyhow, I don't understand the popularity of Tim Horton's coffee. I just chalked the lineups at Tim Horton's in Ottawa to the fact that we have a large population of government drones who have no taste.
I guess from now on, when we fill out forms, we use a Vermont address. Since I get opt-in email from Killington, I'll use theirs, and pick up my mail when I go skiing this month.
I have my Mac SE on a serial connection to my Slackware 8 box. I use links & lynx to connect to the apache server which hosts a site with recipes on it. My boyfriend thinks I'm overdoing it, but it's cute and useful, but to have a fridge/freezer liking like an 80s mac, that would be too exciting.
Brilliant idea....It only works for those who have domains. Then again, getting a domain is fairly easy, all you have to do is respond to a spam email soliciting domain registrations.
Jenn
We have to be more vigilant. Up until a few years ago Ontario driver's licences were in two parts. One part was a photo and a date of birth, and the other part was the licence number and my address. Going to clubs, I would only show my photo part, and it was amazing how many times, the other part was demanded by bouncers et al.
Another experience I had with ID issues was on a holiday in the US. I split off from a friend and came home early. I was pulled by a NY State Trooper over a ridiculous reason (stopping to avoid hitting a racoon, where there was no stop sign or red light [no-one teaches animals rules of the road]). I gave them my passport and Driver's Licence, but they insisted on my Social Insurance Number. The SIN Number is property of the Government of Canada, and is only to be used in dealing with issues of taxation, investment or employment. I had the privilege of spending a night in jail and having it taken from my purse in order to get it.
If we offer more information to people than what is required in any particular situation, then we shouldn't be surprised when others, governments, companies expect it, or already have it stored in databases.
I think socialist cesspool is a slight exaggeration.
Social democratic sauna maybe? Liberal wading pool?
Left-of-centre waterslide?
All kidding aside, I think you should re-examine your comments. The market is no more free in the US than Canada. Large multi-nationals control the agenda, just like they do in all developed countries. If the market doesn't work in their favour, they can buy a politician and manipulate the economy to suit.
I remember GEOS. I had it for my C64. I didn't realise it existed for the PC.
It was a company called Taima. iStar outsourced their tech support to them. It's not a job I enjoyed though some of the people were fun, interesting etc.
I haven't done tech support for iSTAR/Interlog/PSI for almost two years now, but I remember that we used to get so many calls from people everywhere who were shocked at the cost of iPASS and who had problems getting an SMTP server. For people who went to the UK, I just advised them to get one of those ubiquitous 'free' services that gouge you on the cost of the call and toss the disk when they come back. They'd know what their server names are and not have to worry about the unreliable iPASS authentication server. Also, if the purpose was just to get mail, just dial back to Canada. Long distance is cheaper than iPASS.
CDs are bloody expensive here, but the last time I was last over in the UK in October, music sold at HMV there was approximately in £UK what similar music sold at HMV in Canada in $Canadian, (though the British selection was better for a chain store). I doubt that that will change much in the near future. If anybody should take issue with music prices, it should be the Brits. It's too bad that dialup is so expensive, and DSL and cable (if available within the next 5 years) is so damn expensive too.
I'm guilty! I got my burner in 1999, and I think the the screws weren't even tightened before I was borrowing CDs to copy. In retrospect, CDs were not terribly impressive and I probably wouldn't have bought the CDs anyhow. Oh well! I have downloaded a lot of music off of Napster in the few months that it was insanely busy and managed to do about 20 CDS of mp3s. The fact is the novelty wore off and I went back to buying. I am sure that my experience is not terribly unique. If anything, I would assume that people like the RIAA encouraged this behaviour excess attention downloading or borrowing and burning.
Oh one more thing, could we get a rebate on the media that we 'accidentally' turn into coasters?
Rant Rant Rant....Though it contributes nothing to the debate.
Ummm, as much as I really, really want to agree with you about the hour challenge, I think you are dreaming in technicolour. Change it to a day and you are probably closer to the truth. The fact is windows is slightly easier to use, because, firstly, you have no choice, things are done their way and secondly, people have more windows users to rely on for backup. I didn't understand how tricky windows could be until I got a call for help from a friend (20 year unix user, 6 year linux user) needing help setting up a nic card (an ISA NE2000 compatible with no irq conflicts) on a windows machine. I managed to get it to work after 5 reboots, removing unknown device in the system control panel and finally removing the network components. I was able to do it for her, but the experience came from a lot of banging my head against a wall when I was on the help desk. What is so hard about typing su then a password and netconfig followed by a few questions? Thanks for letting me rant. jenn
Yes, but then when we haul all these gadgets out of our purses we get the wierdest looks.