I'm assuming you run GNU/Linux to make a statement against corporate closed source software. Does this anti-corporate ideology follow through to asus, intel/amd, western digital / maxtor and the manufacturers of all your hardware? How do you resolve your love of Freedom with using proprietary hardware?
Ok then, St. Louis treated you horribly.
St. Louis was didn't nurture you. St. Louis is home to some people who disagree with you.
Read the first few paragraphs of the Riverfront Times' "Best Of" issue and answer them honestly, will you?
Best of St. Louis 2002
I left St. Louis years ago, but I don't complain about the city making me unhappy. Cities don't make people unhappy.
People are unhappy.
How is this different than the licenses for SGI or Sun compilers? SGI's licensing of Irix? If I want to stay current with my compilers, I pay a subscription (but it's called a renewable license). If I don't, I use gcc.
The reaction to subsription-ware should be obvious. Witness the flames directed at SGI re support contracts on comp.sys.sgi.* and the minimal presence of Linux on SGI hardware. Speaking about home users, most owners of SGI hardware I know still run Irix; they just don't pay to stay under a support contract or renew licenses for compilers or other flex_lm ware.
Did anyone besides me think that the cop theme was a little creepy?
Big rounded nightstick.... those weird contour lines around the crotch... that smirk that reminds you of the Village People singer.... u-u-u-uh-h-h-h-!
Yes, yes, yes. I am not a programmer. I am a sysadmin. I write scripts - I don't code. And I don't give a damn about GPL vs BSD or spend much thought on the free beer/free speech debate. The reason I started using Linux and OpenBSD is that my budget sucked. I had needs and no resources - and enough curiosity and time to look at a new OS. OpenBSD worked. Linux worked. And I knew I didn't have to spend close to $1000 on NT Server, which would have been prohibitively slow on the spare P133/48 that I had. What IS appealing about Open Source is not a moral stand against Capitalism or Microsoft - though I do enjoy the rhetoric - is that when there's a problem, there's also a ton of people around the globe who will fix the problem fast. IIRC, this summer there was a bug in the kernel regarding a missed call to free() that Alan Cox found and fixed in six (SIX!) hours. Amazing. I have found tons of support in newsgroups and how-to pages, and I know that I've solved problems faster than I could have using NT or Solaris or Irix. That makes justifying to my boss the choice of a free OS a no-brainer. The Linux and *BSD projects have a rabid, devoted following, but that does not guarantee that the products will be usable- look at the AmigaOS. What Linux and *BSD do have is diversity; the fact that there are ports for almost every processor tells me not that the development team is fragmented but that the team is committed to gaining acceptance. My message is that Open Source software is not just a novelty with appeal to programmers. There are a lot of us parasites that will use it because it works ( and only if it works and is supported). Keep up the good work, but don't spend too much time thinking about the revolution. -jpg
I don't understand why any techies would want to come home and read crap written by someone who half understands what they do. I've read this and Microserfs. I feel the same way about other books that pandered to the GenX audience. I felt the authors were trying too hard to demonstrate that they understood the jargon and concepts rather than build a compelling story or develop characters. Thus the characters are lame as hell. Cripes, taking another man's place on a photo shoot? stealing shoes? Decking out an office in Legos? A world where an engineer can be had by giving him a ride in a VW and talking about the speed limit? Not only do these books read like high school short stories, I wouldn't want to know these folks if they were real.
Look, only a sheep would WANT a universal standard for a *nix OS. Any of the clued would realize exactly what kind of can of worms learning about a *nix is. EVERYBODY should know that there is fragmentation galore in the commercial unices and within an hour of research will be aware of the fragmentation in the Linux and *BSD areas. Deal with it.
I use the Linuces and *BSDs to port my knowledge that I learned while working on NT and Mac networks. If you know how to run a file/web/FTP server on one OS, run it on another. The variety of OSs and distros helps and I welcome it. 'Course, I'm smart enough to read man pages. It doesn't throw me that useradd and adduser have different names. Jeez.
I know that r* daemons ought to be disabled as soon as you install your OS, but one of the nicest uses for them is:
tar cf - yourDir | rsh remoteHost cd/dropZone \; tar xvBpf
or tar it to/dev/yourTapeDrive. I did this for my *nix machines.
As for desktop OSs: Servers get backed up. Desktops don't. Clients pull files. Servers serve them. Therefore clients keep files on servers or risk being LARTed hard.
You can bet that as soon as faster storage and any technology improvement is usable, the OS vendors will add enough features to make the hardware crawl. I've had opportunities to rollout batches of new desktops that were years newer than what my users were using at the time. They saw little or no difference. This happened with P133 to P350s, with Mac603/200s to G3/300s.. even a R4400 Indy to an O2R10k/180. I always thought this could be explained by my users being idiots, but I don't think so anymore. We just did stuff that would tax the hardware. Commercial software upgrades have new features, not neccessarily improvements. Thus new software doesn't take advantage of fast hardware. It just uses more, faster resources to suck less.
By contrast, Linux/OSS seems to have been designed to run efficiently, and upgrades improve performance, not just add features. I've actually seen faster performance running Redhat 5.2 vs Redhat 4, and I have not seen that kind of difference from NT3.5.1 -> NT4 or any MacOS upgrade. I hope that as Linux matures, it won't become bloated.
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I'm assuming you run GNU/Linux to make a statement against corporate closed source software. Does this anti-corporate ideology follow through to asus, intel/amd, western digital / maxtor and the manufacturers of all your hardware? How do you resolve your love of Freedom with using proprietary hardware?
all ideology is vanity. vanity is stupid.
Ok then, St. Louis treated you horribly.
St. Louis was didn't nurture you. St. Louis is home to some people who disagree with you.
Read the first few paragraphs of the Riverfront Times' "Best Of" issue and answer them honestly, will you? Best of St. Louis 2002
I left St. Louis years ago, but I don't complain about the city making me unhappy. Cities don't make people unhappy.
People are unhappy.
I have your answer:
news:alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete_cd
pair that up with easynews or the like, and you'll wonder why anyone uses Kazaa at all.
Anyone else notice the resemblance to Perry Farrell?
Amen.
I just bought a Genesis and 28 games off Ebay for less than $40 US. Nothing is finer than 8 bit.
I shite you not: Staying late one night at work with my boss, I rebooted, watched the messages and began calling some out before they printed.
Boss knew I was about to lose it and gave me the rest of the week off. (yes, this was on a friday night, but time off is time off:)
dash dash space newline
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The reaction to subsription-ware should be obvious. Witness the flames directed at SGI re support contracts on comp.sys.sgi.* and the minimal presence of Linux on SGI hardware. Speaking about home users, most owners of SGI hardware I know still run Irix; they just don't pay to stay under a support contract or renew licenses for compilers or other flex_lm ware.
This actually sounds vaguely rockin! (I'm kind of into redneck chic- grew up poor.)
Can you post pics?
Hell, I'd even vote for lp, but not nobody.
You can't vote for an account with no password. I mean, come on.
Big rounded nightstick.... those weird contour lines around the crotch... that smirk that reminds you of the Village People singer.... u-u-u-uh-h-h-h-!
I'm just glad that's gone.
I missed it, but several people at work this morning mentioned it was the most incredible thing they saw. (People from Naperville to Elgin)
I want to see the shower, but I live downtown, so I'm screwed from light pollution. Maybe if I go to the lake and look northeast....
They should get a product endorsement from King Sunny Ade.
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Yes, yes, yes. I am not a programmer. I am a sysadmin. I write scripts - I don't code. And I don't give a damn about GPL vs BSD or spend much thought on the free beer/free speech debate. The reason I started using Linux and OpenBSD is that my budget sucked. I had needs and no resources - and enough curiosity and time to look at a new OS. OpenBSD worked. Linux worked. And I knew I didn't have to spend close to $1000 on NT Server, which would have been prohibitively slow on the spare P133/48 that I had. What IS appealing about Open Source is not a moral stand against Capitalism or Microsoft - though I do enjoy the rhetoric - is that when there's a problem, there's also a ton of people around the globe who will fix the problem fast. IIRC, this summer there was a bug in the kernel regarding a missed call to free() that Alan Cox found and fixed in six (SIX!) hours. Amazing. I have found tons of support in newsgroups and how-to pages, and I know that I've solved problems faster than I could have using NT or Solaris or Irix. That makes justifying to my boss the choice of a free OS a no-brainer. The Linux and *BSD projects have a rabid, devoted following, but that does not guarantee that the products will be usable- look at the AmigaOS. What Linux and *BSD do have is diversity; the fact that there are ports for almost every processor tells me not that the development team is fragmented but that the team is committed to gaining acceptance. My message is that Open Source software is not just a novelty with appeal to programmers. There are a lot of us parasites that will use it because it works ( and only if it works and is supported). Keep up the good work, but don't spend too much time thinking about the revolution. -jpg
I don't understand why any techies would want to come home and read crap written by someone who half understands what they do. I've read this and Microserfs. I feel the same way about other books that pandered to the GenX audience. I felt the authors were trying too hard to demonstrate that they understood the jargon and concepts rather than build a compelling story or develop characters. Thus the characters are lame as hell. Cripes, taking another man's place on a photo shoot? stealing shoes? Decking out an office in Legos? A world where an engineer can be had by giving him a ride in a VW and talking about the speed limit? Not only do these books read like high school short stories, I wouldn't want to know these folks if they were real.
Look, only a sheep would WANT a universal standard for a *nix OS. Any of the clued would realize exactly what kind of can of worms learning about a *nix is. EVERYBODY should know that there is fragmentation galore in the commercial unices and within an hour of research will be aware of the fragmentation in the Linux and *BSD areas. Deal with it.
I use the Linuces and *BSDs to port my knowledge that I learned while working on NT and Mac networks. If you know how to run a file/web/FTP server on one OS, run it on another. The variety of OSs and distros helps and I welcome it. 'Course, I'm smart enough to read man pages. It doesn't throw me that useradd and adduser have different names. Jeez.
I know that r* daemons ought to be disabled as soon as you install your OS, but one of the nicest uses for them is:
/dropZone \; tar xvBpf
/dev/yourTapeDrive. I did this for my *nix machines.
tar cf - yourDir | rsh remoteHost cd
or tar it to
As for desktop OSs: Servers get backed up. Desktops don't. Clients pull files. Servers serve them. Therefore clients keep files on servers or risk being LARTed hard.
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.....and he must die!
You can bet that as soon as faster storage and any technology improvement is usable, the OS vendors will add enough features to make the hardware crawl. I've had opportunities to rollout batches of new desktops that were years newer than what my users were using at the time. They saw little or no difference. This happened with P133 to P350s, with Mac603/200s to G3/300s.. even a R4400 Indy to an O2R10k/180.
I always thought this could be explained by my users being idiots, but I don't think so anymore. We just did stuff that would tax the hardware. Commercial software upgrades have new features, not neccessarily improvements. Thus new software doesn't take advantage of fast hardware. It just uses more, faster resources to suck less.
By contrast, Linux/OSS seems to have been designed to run efficiently, and upgrades improve performance, not just add features. I've actually seen faster performance running Redhat 5.2 vs Redhat 4, and I have not seen that kind of difference from NT3.5.1 -> NT4 or any MacOS upgrade. I hope that as Linux matures, it won't become bloated.