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Tribute to Nien Nunb and other Star Wars Bit Parts

Nien Nunb writes "This Star Wars feature tries to give the little guys a leg up, like the aforementioned Nien Nunb, who only shows up for one action sequence, but he was copilot of the ship that destroyed the second Death Star. Star Wars is full of forgotten faces like his and you can see all their wretchedness here."

171 comments

  1. Am I the only one... by easter1916 · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...who thinks that just someone is into technology, it isn't automatic to like LOTR, SW, etc?

    1. Re:Am I the only one... by MisterBlister · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      ...who can type fully formed, English sentences on Slashdot?

    2. Re:Am I the only one... by MisterBlister · · Score: 1, Insightful
      What's your point exactly?

      Just because someone is into technology doesn't make them into LOTR, SW, anime, natural science, patent law, digital music, Harry Potter, Columbine, Blizzard games, and the list goes on and on...

      This 'observation' could be made in almost any Slashdot post.

      The stories posted to Slashdot are those the editors wish to post, period.

    3. Re:Am I the only one... by easter1916 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes, thanks.

    4. Re:Am I the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...this isn't "technology news". This is "news for nerds". If you want "technology news", go elsewhere.

    5. Re:Am I the only one... by a+random+streaker · · Score: 1

      There should be no comma between "formed" and "English".

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    6. Re:Am I the only one... by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      This is the correct spelling in many Englsih-speaking countries.

      Oh, I almost forgot -- mother fucking asshole dildo pus licking dipshit.

    7. Re:Am I the only one... by easter1916 · · Score: 1
      From dictionary.com:
      faeces found in 2 items.
      Excretion
      Excerpt: "...; evacuation, dejection, faeces, excrement; bloody flux; cacation..."
      [View Entry]

      Uncleanness
      Excerpt: "..., suppuration, lienteria; faeces, feces, excrement, ordure, dung..."
      [View Entry]
  2. Is it just me... by Shivster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...or do half of these comments have nothing to do with the topic? It's about time someone paid attention to the bit parts.

    1. Re:Is it just me... by The+Turbinator · · Score: 0
      "...or do half of these comments have nothing to do with the topic?"

      Including your own comment, yes. You're not doing anything to solve the problem, you dumb fuck!

  3. Bah.. by b0r0din · · Score: 2, Funny
    There's no mention of N'Sync here. What about the really important secondary characters, like Justin Timberlake!!

    *Swoon*

    1. Re:Bah.. by sirsnork · · Score: 1

      My god.. you know his last name... shame on you ;-)

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    2. Re:Bah.. by Nerftoe · · Score: 1

      My god.. you know his last name... shame on you ;-)

      Obviously, you do too! ;-)

  4. NSync by cmckay · · Score: 0, Redundant

    We can only hope that the members of NSync will be forgotten immediately after we see them in Attack of the Clones...

    1. Re:NSync by haighworld · · Score: 1

      Maybe NSync ARE the clones! Armies and armies of 'em...

    2. Re:NSync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am hoping not to notice them at all.

    3. Re:NSync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess if you're going to fuck up Star Wars you better do it on a grand scale.

    4. Re:NSync by Ringthane · · Score: 1

      With the mayfly-like shelf-life of these "boy groups," the attention span of their public is unlikely to be overtaxed. They will be denizens of the "Where are they now" file before SW: AotC hits the screens.

      Ringthane
      "Look, there, in the cut-out bin..."

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    5. Re:NSync by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      That's a good idea.
      I'd pay to see Jedi mowing down endless hordes of Nsync or *NSYNC or *%^NsYnC%@# or whatever they're called.

      "Strange this is. Human they appear, but sense them in the Force I can not. As if manufactured, they were, hmmmmmmmmm?
      "So we won't sacrifice our PG rating if we kill them?"
      *fwizzzzzz* *sizzzzz-fummmmmmmm*
      "Master Obi-Wan! There's... too many of them!"
      "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Get it off me! Get it off me!"
      "Aaaaaah! Can't... bear... to look... but... can't... look away... must... turn... to dark side... to... reassert... masculinity..."

  5. Good God!! by dagoalieman · · Score: 1, Funny

    Itchy's sex fantasy was DIAHAN CARROL??

    That's almost as bad as those damn SciFi channel popups! **twitch twitch**

    AIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!

    .

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  6. Oh yes, and also let's not forget ... by J.D.+Hogg · · Score: 2, Funny
    We should also give a leg up to the following little guys :

    Erik Schmoll : he made a 2 second appearance as the toilet paper delivery boy in Lethal Weapon III

    Raymond Swzarznik : the much acclaimed actor how played the back of the 56th passenger in Airplane II: the Sequel.

    Eugene Smith : the driver of the first Chevrolet passed by Drew Barrimore in Charlie's Angels.

    Joseph Sixpack : the 6th left buttock from the right in "Anal orgy IV"

    Good work guys, it's about time your talent and the talent of the approx. 500.000.000.000 people like you are recognized !

    1. Re:Oh yes, and also let's not forget ... by Antipop · · Score: 1

      This is what I'm thinking. Is Star Wars really that good? I've seen it a few times and it just seems like another cult movie that really kinda... sucks. Who cares who played the Ewok all the way in the back?

    2. Re:Oh yes, and also let's not forget ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Who cares who played the Ewok all the way in the back?


      People with way to much time on there hands!
  7. My favourite bit part by kitts · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Obi Wan and Luke are walking through Mos Eisley, right after they leave the cantina, and they're talking about selling off the speeder. For a brief second, a long, thin pair of legs, stilt-like, walk across the foreground. No picture of the body or the feet. No second pair of legs, as though half a camel just walked through the shot.

    The genius is how the rest of the alien's appearance is left up to the imagination. I mean, what fluke of gravity was that creature?

    More importantly, how does Lucas's creative insight go from that to Jar Jar? He used to have a pretty keen eye for subtle details. Now it's like getting an ice pick through the brain.

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    1. Re:My favourite bit part by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Am I the only one who thought that the jedi master shown briefly in The Plotless Menace with the 6 foot long neck would be toast in any kind of lightsaber duel?

    2. Re:My favourite bit part by zero2k · · Score: 1

      Remember that Lucas made those movies in the days where he was wanting to make a big name for himself, and trying to get his first break. Now that he's got the money, it's not as an important thing - less motivation for greater imagination. He's getting old anyways. After seeing Ep 1, I'm not really enthusiastic about the coming ones.

    3. Re:My favourite bit part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not the only one. I noticed that straight away. Some of the characters are rediculous. I dare say that they can't even lift the saber itself.

    4. Re:My favourite bit part by xTK-421x · · Score: 1

      Here's an image of the character you are talking about from a deleted scene that never made it into the movie:

      Really Tall Guy with Really Short Guy from Episode 4

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      "TK-421, why aren't you at your post?"
    5. Re:My favourite bit part by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      "Oh my God! That CAN'T be real!! The horror, the horror...."

      (see above link for context)

      As for Mr. Nunb, that dude rocked when he did his laugh thing! "Yub, yub, yub" or whatever; I fell out of my chair laughing, thinking "I gotta hire this dude for a party sometime!"

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    6. Re:My favourite bit part by denzo · · Score: 2
      The Force is a bit more versatile than most give it credit for. Just look at Yoda. Have we even seen him lift a lightsaber even one time? No. Yet he is believed to be the strongest Jedi of the bunch (Qwi-Gon compared Anikin's medichlorian count to Yoda, afterall), and is a favorite character among fans.

      I'm sure a limbless creature can be a formidible Jedi, assuming that they have the mental capacity to harness the Force.

    7. Re:My favourite bit part by seppyk · · Score: 1

      Jedi Master, Yarael Poof.... i.e. - the guy with the 6 foot long neck. On the following Star Wars bio page, apparently his weapon of choice is the lightsaber indeed. Maybe he has some sort of neck harness that wields the blade.

      http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/yarae lp oof/

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    8. Re:My favourite bit part by armb · · Score: 2
      Maybe he has some sort of neck harness that wields the blade.

      If you look on the expanded universe tab of that page, it says he has four arms hidden under his robes. It also says he prefers to rely on mind tricks to befuddle and mislead targets, "though like all Jedi, he carried a lightsaber". Not the same as it being his weapon of choice.

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    9. Re:My favourite bit part by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      And that he had two brains, one in his skull and one in his chest cavity, so he wouldn't necessarily have been toast if his head had been severed with a lightsaber.

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    10. Re:My favourite bit part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, but what good will that second brain do him when his eyeballs are laying on the floor in his severed head?

      I agree 100% that ol' Noodle-Neck would be the first to go after Darth Whoever fired up his lightsabre.

      Anonymous Kev
      Proudly posting as Anonymous Coward since 1997

    11. Re:My favourite bit part by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1

      Dude, lesson one of The Jedi Manual: Your eyes can deceive you.

      Remember the line (paraphrasing) "but with the blast shield down I can't see anything!"

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    12. Re:My favourite bit part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YESSSS!!! I wanna see that neck in a duel in ep 2.

    13. Re:My favourite bit part by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 1

      From the Star Wars site:

      "He is a member of the Quermian species, a race of sentient invertebrates related to the Troiken of Xexto. Poof's sensitive olfactory glands were located in his hands. Poof had two brains, one located inside his skull and the other in his chest cavity.

      A sly Jedi Master, Poof was a master of Jedi mind tricks and could use the Force to quickly befuddle and mislead targets by conjuring false images in their minds. This is Poof's preferred method of combat, though like all Jedi, he carried a lightsaber. "


      An INVERTEBRATE? How the hell does an invertebrate have a long, spindly neck like that...and olfactory glands?? Does that mean he smelled with his hands, or that his hands smelled.

      Poof: Here, use my lightsaber.

      Other Jedi Dude: Uh, no thanks Poof, I'll see if i can't use my Jedi powers to get it back from the Rancor.

      Poof: Naw, c'mon, really you can use it - it's a cool green you know.

      Other Jedi Dude: Um, actually Poof, it kinda stinks. Yeah... me and the other Jedi's have been talking about your "saber" and how much it smells. Could you look into a few sets of gloves or something"

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    14. Re:My favourite bit part by Ether+Trogg · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually, whenever he was challenged to a lightsaber duel, he waved his head and neck back and forth like a cobra coming out of a basket, all while humming that famous "cobra hypnotism" song. It wasn't a very effect combat strategy, but it was pretty damned amusing.

      In fact, his greatest enemies weren't bad guys with lightsabers; they were clotheslines, and doorframes, and chandeliers, and low-flying Star Destroyers.

      It was not uncommon for Star Destroyer commanders to lurk in orbit, just hoping to catch this guy out on the streets so they could "buzz" him. Great morale booster for the crew, although Long-Neck tended to get a bit irritated.

      Sometimes, at those wild and wicked late-night Jedi parties, Mace Windu and Obi Wan would pull his neck really, really tight, and then Yoda would pluck it like a guitar string. Depending on how tight Mace and Obi pulled, Yoda could play a pretty awesome version of Neal Young's "Rockin' in the Free World."

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  8. Lobot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Lobot Lobot.

    omg. Lobot.

    you know who I'm talking about.

    1. Re:Lobot. by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 1

      I wanna be like Lobot! Only I also want the capabilities of GORM THE DISSOLVER! (both cool in my book)

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    2. Re:Lobot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I wanna be like Lobot! Only I also want the
      > capabilities of GORM THE DISSOLVER! (both cool
      > in my book)

      Brak kicks both of their asses.

    3. Re:Lobot. by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 1

      gorm would turn brak into molecular paste.

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  9. All I can say is when the next B5 movie comes out by EvilBastard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It had be a lot damn less annoying then that goddamn poppup ad

    Multi Page clickthroughs + fancy popup adds = Gave up about #6.

  10. No IG-88? by haighworld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Droid gone bad.

    And a freakin' cool action figure too!

  11. Yak Face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I can't believe Yak Face didn't rate in the top 10.

  12. Porkins? by grub · · Score: 4, Interesting


    "Stay on target...Stay on target!" Porkins
    "I've got the death sentence on 12 systems!" scumbag in cantina
    "flubbablorgafthstuknirmblaaaa.." Greedo in cantina

    Why are the most memorable characters from the first movie or two (or IV and V, depending on your viewpoint)?
    Good thing we have these gems to counteract the Jar Jar/Nsync crap.

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    1. Re:Porkins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Danik Jerriko

    2. Re:Porkins? by JimE+Griff · · Score: 0

      I love Jeb Porkins. His portrayal of a fat guy crashing into the death star both frightens and inspires us. It shows us something, really, about ourselves. And it was funny.

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    3. Re:Porkins? by pio!pio! · · Score: 0

      It was funny how they named the fat guy Porkins

    4. Re:Porkins? by Fesh · · Score: 2

      Always remember that the phrase "Loosen up!" was some poor schmuck's last words... And make sure that anyone who tells you to knows it.

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      --Fesh
      Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
    5. Re:Porkins? by wpmegee · · Score: 1
      I believe the guy's name who said "I've got the death sentence in 12 systems" was Dr. Evazan.
      His friend, the walrus-faced Aqualish who got his arm lopped off, was Ponda Baba.

      Also, for those who don't read SW novels, Porkins' first name was Jek, and he had the nickname Piggy.

    6. Re:Porkins? by karb · · Score: 1
      I was hoping somebody would mention porkins. He was widely admired among both my fellow high school and college star wars fans.

      Somebody actually made an elaborate SW RPG scenario wherein we learned that porkins crash landed on the death star, and it was he who hit the self destruct button, destroying it (not luke's proton torpedoes, which missed).

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    7. Re:Porkins? by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      Ahhh, Porkins...

      Can anyone confirm that William Hootkins, the actor who played Porkins is or is not William Hootkins, the narrator on 72% of TLC's documentaries?

      I can't get any concrete links from TLC, IMDb or any other source, but so far, I'd say probably.

      GTRacer
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    8. Re:Porkins? by knobboy · · Score: 1

      Was this Porkins? I thought it was one of the leaders, maybe Gold Leader, that said this. I couldn't find the quote listed on IMDB though.

  13. Hopefully in the future it reads: by Nathdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Forgotten Characters:

    No. 1 - "That Little Kid Who Played Anakin and said 'Yippee' A Lot"

    I'd like to forget but I just can't.

    :)

    1. Re:Hopefully in the future it reads: by CCIEwannabe · · Score: 1

      Forgotten Characters:

      No. 2 - Jar Jar

      Oh please...

    2. Re:Hopefully in the future it reads: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! You only had to see him once! As it happens, he goes to my school, and at the dedication ceremony for a new building that went up last May, my school decided, in a fit of briliance, to do a Star Wars skit with him. So if you can imagine this, it's a bright May morning, with 1200 kids packed into a tiny courtyard. In this situation, we are subjected to a full hour of acting by Mr. Anakin and (arguably worse) various random members of the faculty and classes. This lead to such memorable lines as:

      HEAD OF THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT: Obi Wan Kanobi?
      HEADMASTER: Obi Two Kanobi?!

      Yessiree, you have not learned how to hate TPM until its ultimate effect on your life is to lock you outside on a chilly and damp May morning so that you can watch bad acting.

  14. Originally seen a *year* ago on x-entertainment by schussat · · Score: 4, Informative
    This story was featured nearly a year ago at x-entertainment (see that link for the story without the page-by-page popups).

    -schussat

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    1. Re:Originally seen a *year* ago on x-entertainment by Nick+Number · · Score: 3, Funny

      This story was featured nearly a year ago at x-entertainment (see that link for the story without the page-by-page popups).

      Aha! I was just thinking this sounded like an XE article. Postings have tapered off there lately, but at one time I was reading that site every day. My favorite is Mr. T and Undertaker Ice Cream: Recipe for Disaster. It had me falling down laughing...at work unfortunately.

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    2. Re:Originally seen a *year* ago on x-entertainment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well of course. The UGO network entertainment conglomerate recycles content like most other media mega corps. The marketing dept. knows how to create the synnergy that taps that lucrative and hard to reach 18-25 market...which basiclly means take mt. t, star wars, the hulk, crappy 70s anime and mix heavily, result a marketing master peice for tapping into the 18-25 market...

  15. To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by xTK-421x · · Score: 5, Funny

    My namesake, TK-421.. The ill-fated stormtrooper who gets shot by Han Solo, and ends up with a bad transmitter...

    TK-421 Fan Club

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    "TK-421, why aren't you at your post?"
    1. Re:To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by dimator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Has anyone in the fan club been able to determine what, if anything, the TK or the 421 mean?

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    2. Re:To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet TK-421 means Team Killer - causes a squad of 4 to become a 1 man team.

    3. Re:To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by merlyn · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the novelization of "Star Wars", this character is actually written as "THX-1138", a tip of the hat to Lucas' prior film. Instead the number "1138" shows up as "prisoner transfer from cell block 1138", a few minutes later.

    4. Re:To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by embee232323 · · Score: 1

      "TK-421" is also the name of the stereo in Boogie Nights.. in the part where the porn star is at his real job.

    5. Re:To the ultimate Star Wars "hero"... by jdavidb · · Score: 2

      Randall, you are the man! And as one featured prominently in google's USENET timeline as having made the first post about ROtJ you are doubly the man!



      Searching through articles from that time period I really loved the bit about your brother and defender. He's the man, too!



      Folks, hats off to a guy who made a "first post" back when first posts meant something.



      Keep the Star Wars info coming, and most of all keep hacking Perl! (So, was waiting until 1997 to see all nine parts worth it?)

  16. Top 10 Forgotten Characters by tartanboy · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What is one list *NSync will never make it on, Alex?

    Unless we're simply talking about wretched, then they are heading straight to the top of the charts...

  17. the torture by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Only here would we find the referance to Chewbaccas Father, but we also have the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, with Carrie Fisher singing

    The torture of it all.

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    1. Re:the torture by linzeal · · Score: 2

      I must have this. Anyone know of where to find this legal or otherwise?

    2. Re:the torture by xTK-421x · · Score: 1

      Ye old google scores again..

      Download the Holiday Special in RM format

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      "TK-421, why aren't you at your post?"
    3. Re:the torture by canadian_right · · Score: 1

      Anyone else actually remeber watching the 'holiday specual' on TV?
      I was pretty young, but I do remeber thinking that the cartoon (great caricature of han solo with 1000 watt smile) was the only good part.

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  18. more characters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    i agree, and i have another question, i heard of this obscure called "R2-D2" or something... does anyone know who he/she is?

  19. "You rebel scumm!" in ROTJ by dpilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Takes the cake for me, as far as bit parts go. You can tell the guy always wanted to get into movies, and this was his BIG CHANCE. He crammed as much of his life as possible into those three words. But ya know, three words just doesn't have enough space to pack that much into, especially those three.

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    1. Re:"You rebel scumm!" in ROTJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *ROFL!*

      Dude! Right on!

      I remember long, long ago, seeing that line unfold. I turned to my friend and noted something along the lines of, "Damn, he's really into his part."

      That guy simply rocks. :)

  20. The article is just rubbish!! by natslovR · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why is this a slashdot story? It's rubbish! Have you read it, here's some of the juvenile going's on: "Amanaman presents one of the more interesting phenomenons in the Star Wars universe, that being creatures that cannot possibly exist. Because I created the theory on evolution, and yes I did, I can tell you...anything with arms this ridiculously long would've been wiped into extinction years ago. Amanaman can't possibly do anything - much less the alleged 'headhunting'...." Seems appropriate for some starwars freaks site, but not Slashdot.

  21. Nien Nunb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I would just like to announce that I, for one, am imagining an ENTIRE beowulf cluster of these.

    You can either join me and profit by this....or die.

  22. Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by PhazeShifter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I never really thought about it until now, but Luke had nothing to do with the destruction of the Death Star and the defeat of the Empire in ROTJ!!! Han, Leia, and the rebel detachment took out the Shield protecting the Death Star and Lando (with Numb) and the other rebel pilots took out the Death Star. The emperor would have died anyway when the Death Star was destroyed! A depressing thought since Luke was the main hero. At least he turned Vader (who would have died with the Death Star as well). Guess he did do something after all...

    1. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Why+Should+I · · Score: 1


      Luke had to turn himself in, so that he could keep the emperor and vader busy long enough that the Leia and Solo could destroy the shield generator on the moon.


      Had Luke remained with them on the moon then they would have surely been occupied with a great deal more storm troopers, as well as vader (and perhaps them emporer) himself on the moon.


      Just some speculative conjecture on my behalf.

    2. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it was Luke's plan to rescue Han from Jabba the Hutt. That set things in motion for the rest of the way. Nit nit nit. :-)

      Some possible spoiler info may have been slipped into some of the Star Wars novels. I know Lucas has declared that the books are not canon, but could the authors have been tipped about some things that would be fleshed out in the prequel trilogy?

      Some speculation follows. It might be considered a spoiler, but it's just some things I've thought about, and are probably entirely incorrect.

      Lucas has already said that stormtroopers would be explained in the next 2 films, so I assume they'll turn out to be clones. Guess we'll find out in 5 months.

      In one of the novels of the Heir to the Empire trilogy by Timothy Zahn, Grand Admiral Thrawn explains that the Rebels won the Battle of Endor because the Emperor died. The Emperor was literally a guiding force (maybe that should be a capital F) for the Imperial soldiers. It's been a few years since I read the books, but I think Thrawn said most of the Imperial soldiers were clones. Since the cloning process wasn't natural, there was a problem with the clones' connections with the Force that would eventually drive them insane. But with the Emperor controlling them, or maybe just forcing them to focus on the goal of Imperial conquest, they didn't lose their sanity. When he died, the Imperial soldiers had nothing to guide them, which led to the Rebels gaining advantage and winning the battle.

      It's also been a while since I've watched ROTJ, so I don't remember if the Emperor died before the Rebels were able to take over the shield generator or not. Or if it can even be determined what the exact chronology is, given the jumping between the scenes at the shield generator, in the Death Star and in space.

      In this light, without Luke there to bring Vader back from the Dark Side and kill the Emperor, the Emperor would have probably willed the Imperials to a victory.

    3. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by JesseL · · Score: 1

      IIRC, one of the books mentioned that the Emporer had been using the force to coordinate the Imperial forces. When Palpatine died the Imperial defenses fell apart and gave the rebels the advantage they needed.

      Geez, I sound like a fanboy.

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    4. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, throughout the movies Wedge seems to do more than Luke.

    5. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      space.com had a series on Star Wars a while back called Phantom Heresies. This particular issue was discussed in two articles: Their Fire Has Vanished: Power, Elitism and the Fall of the Jedi and Balancing the Force.

      If you would like to read the whole series, search for "Phantom Heresies" on the main Space.com web page, and it will give you the headlines (duplicated many times over). Topics include mediclorians, Boba Fett, and other analysis into the Star Wars movies.

    6. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Syberghost · · Score: 2

      I never really thought about it until now, but Luke had nothing to do with the destruction of the Death Star and the defeat of the Empire in ROTJ!!!

      Wow, what an amazing discovery you've made!

      It's just too bad that nobody on Slashdot has ever thought of this before.

    7. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wedge is my favorite character. In all three movies he saves everyone else's bacon just by being the best damn pilot the Alliance has. For example, in Ep4-ANH Luke has a tie fighter on his tail in the final attack and Wedge comes at them head-on gets off an amazing shot at the last second and flies through the TIE fighter debris cloud- all without any "yee-haw" or "hoo-WEE" noises. Just a quiet, confident dude in glasses who could fly like nobody's business.

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    8. Re:Luke's Impact Negligible In ROTJ!!! by malelder · · Score: 0

      ah, Wedge Antilles...the Max Sterling of Star Wars.

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  23. Salacious Crumb! by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 1

    funniest name. neeneeneeneenee [his laugh]

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  24. the other day... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    ...I caught my dog with a leg up on my Episode I DVD.

    I let him keep it, he seems to have more fun with the thing than I ever did.

    - A.P.

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  25. Re:Star Wars... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why do you bother breathing? We'd all be much happy if you stopped.

  26. What about Greedo? by niola · · Score: 1

    I see they have Nien Nunb and Hammerhead, but what about Greedo? I am also wondering if that Greedo-looking dude who was friends with Anakin in Episode 1 really is Greedo...

    1. Re:What about Greedo? by PhazeShifter · · Score: 1

      The Anakin vs. Greedo fight in TPM ended up on the cutting room floor, but is included in the deleted scenes section of the DVD. If you watch it, you'll understand why it was cut. The other Rodian (Greedo's race) that was hanging out with Anakin and his friends was someone else.

  27. Scarier than the website.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even scarier than the website itself are all the corrections the webmaster is destined to receive now that slashdotters have gotten ahold of him...

  28. Who the hell is Nien NuNb!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's `Nien Numb' doofus.

  29. In twenty years... by dimator · · Score: 1, Troll

    In twenty years, there will be a page similar to this, but the top 10 will be a little different, as Lucas daughters make more casting requests:

    10. Jay Leno
    9. George Clooney
    8. Penelope Cruz
    7. John Travolta
    6. Brittney Spears
    5. Backstreet Boys
    4. O-Town
    3. Carson Daily
    2. Snoop Dogg
    1. NSync

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    1. Re:In twenty years... by Alehandro · · Score: 1

      Christs sake...
      His little doughter likes N'Sync.
      "Daddy I want those boys to to in the movie"... aaaaahhh...who gives a *uck what she likes.
      They should place that Justin moran together with Breasty Spe*ms and will have a great @ucking movie. And have all boys from N' be a jedi knights. And once they all got toghether they should sing their songs. Remember that late mid-evil movie where all people were singing with help of Queen's "We will rock you" and with nice electric guitar solo.......agrrrrhhhhh....agrrr....

  30. Matt needs to get some fact straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Thirdly, and most importantly....the voice. Do you have a friend with a really, really annoying laugh? The kind of laugh that entices thoughts of saliva slobbering and just general unpleasantness? The kind of laugh that literally keeps you from saying something funny in fear? Well, Nien Nunb doesn't have that laugh. He has that VOICE - he talks like that CONSTANTLY. What's more? LANDO UNDERSTANDS EVERY WORD HE SAYS. Fine, Lando's been around the block a few times, he's pretty well travelled. But COME ON FOLKS, WHY ON EARTH WOULD LANDO TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN THE IMPOSSIBLE LANGUAGE USED BY THE MOUSY SLAVE MINERS OF THE PLANET SULLUST?!!!"

    Nien Nunb spoke swahili, and when the movies were shown in africa, audiences were know to standup and chear when that scene came on.

    1. Re:Matt needs to get some fact straight by freeweed · · Score: 2
      Nien Nunb spoke swahili, and when the movies were shown in africa, audiences were know to standup and chear when that scene came on.

      Ok, and who's the first karma whore who can provide us an english translation of what he said?

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    2. Re:Matt needs to get some fact straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      To be fair, Nien Nunb is speaking gibberish, but, it's Swahili gibberish. It's probably something like "tree apple candy lion eye goo." ;)

    3. Re:Matt needs to get some fact straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He says "they aren't paying me enough for this"

    4. Re:Matt needs to get some fact straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Actually it's kikuyu, a tribal language of Kenya.

    5. Re:Matt needs to get some fact straight by xTK-421x · · Score: 2, Funny

      From http://www.rpi.edu/~wysmuj/files/journal.txt

      ELEPHANTS,NEIN NUMB AND FEET (curiosity) (*)
      Lucas used several linguists to create languages for the aliens. The one which Nein Numb speaks is based off a Kenyan dialect. By accident or design, one of his lines ends up sounding like, "One thousand herds of elephants are standing on my foot" in this language.

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  31. Get n'Sync OUT of my universe! by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1
    Why are the most memorable characters from the first movie or two (or IV and V, depending on your viewpoint)?
    Good thing we have these gems to counteract the Jar Jar/Nsync crap.

    Have to give you a big "darn tootin' here"...

    There is no reason in the universe that Star Wars needs to do anything special to "appeal to kids". It's just crap. What about the original star wars was "kid-friendly"? Besides Leia being a cute chick, there's nothing remotely like that, but it's part of my youth and many of yours too.

    I'm almost glad that Lucas decided they were never going to make episodes 7, 8 & 9... Imagine the hokey shit that would be in there...

    ...A 75-year-old Harrisson Ford makes a cameo in #7 holding a can of Pepsi and talking about Sprint.

    ...Yoda appears in a vision to Han & Leia's children to extoll the virtues of Microsoft cybernetic implants v11.3.

    ...A 45-year-old Britney Spears attempts a comeback in part 9 that fails when her leather pants split during filming.
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  32. nien dumb by doktorjayd · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    for christs sake.

    its just a freakin movie.

    get a life.

  33. was he played by Ed Harris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or the Principal from Back to the Future? Or Telly Savalas?

  34. Wrong on the Amanaman account by jstarr · · Score: 1

    Actually, it turns out that (like every other minor character in Star Wars), the Amanaman have a fairly well-developed history and anatomy. You can read all about it at STAR WARS: Amanaman.

  35. Chear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > audiences were know to standup and chear

    Methinks you need to get your spelling straight.

    Also, for the other losers... there is no flaimbait or definately.

    Can someone add to this?

  36. Itchy the Christmas Special Character? by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

    Is this where the simpsons got "Itchy and Scratchy" from?

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  37. the name of the creature is... by freakingmoron · · Score: 1

    Kal Falnl Cndros. Apparently a really good pilot or something. He's featured in the Star Wars CCG.

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  38. Pathetic... by rramir16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How pathetic is this? Star Wars was a set of MOVIES. These people were EXTRAS. Yes, they did have interesting costumes, but that's it. Perhaps this article would be better entitled "Extras from star wars about whom the coolest fan fiction has been written", because that's all the various stories written after the trilogy are.

  39. 1,000 herds of elephants by Captain+Zion · · Score: 3, Funny
    Nien Numb... I know this guy. He's the one that, after blowing up the second Death Star, declared that "1000 herds of elephants were standing on his feet."

    That happened because Lucas based the alien languages in real (obscure) languages, and Mr. Numb's is based in some African dialect that translates to this bizarre elephant statement.

    1. Re:1,000 herds of elephants by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Weren't the Ewoks understandable somewhere in Africa or Asia, too?

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  40. what Nien Nunb said by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    I remember reading Hot Dog magazine (or something like that) back when I was a kid. It said that his dialogue translated something like, "What are you doing over there? We need you over here!" Makes no sense whatsoever in the scene.

    OK, this is relying on a vague memory of something seen once about 18 years ago. So take it for what it's worth.

    1. Re:what Nien Nunb said by NightWhistler · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of some low-budget sci-fi movie I was once saw...
      A yeti-like creature was supposed to be speaking some ancient Tibethan dialect, which in reality was simply Dutch...

      If I remember correctly he was blabbering something about "What's going on here?" ;-)

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    2. Re:what Nien Nunb said by santeri · · Score: 1
      Reminds me of some low-budget sci-fi movie I was once saw... A yeti-like creature was supposed to be speaking some ancient Tibethan dialect, which in reality was simply Dutch...

      Or the Star Trek movie, where the Norwegian whale hunters speak Finnish. God damn.

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  41. Re:ads by Kombat · · Score: 1
    these f**s really don't want me to read their site huh

    What they want, genius, is to be paid for the work and effort they've put into their site. Since studies show that whiners like you vehemently oppose micropayments and user fees, that leaves advertising. I'm sorry if the ads annoy you during your free ride.

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  42. Re:What about Greedo?(Rodian) by dpreviti · · Score: 1

    I'm going to have to go back and watch the cut scenes again, but I agree the kid Rodian was cool. I wanted some more depth in that character in TPM.
    not to be so.

  43. LOTR=Good, SW*=Bad? by Kombat · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Great, I was hoping for another Star Wars thread to air a complaint if mine. I'm getting really sick of people ditching on Star Wars Episodes I and II (despite not even having seen Ep. II yet!), and holding up Lord of the Rings like some holy grail, proclaiming "Look! This is how it should have been!"

    Well I'm sorry, but I've seen both movies, and LOTR was looooooong and boooooring. I didn't read the book. I didn't read any of the Star Wars books, either. But for entertainment value, if my friends and I were in Blockbuster(TM) and the choice was SW:TPM or LOTR, I personally find Ep. I far more entertaining.

    Sure, LOTR is this great, untouchable, epic work, but unless you're a basement-dwelling D&D-loving introvert, it's not really that great. It was too dramatic. I mean, come on - 3 hours??? And they didn't even manage to finally destroy the ring at the end of it??? Gimmie a break. It was waaaay too drawn out. I mean, OK, sure, they have to destroy this ring. I GET THE POINT! Just destroy it already! I mean geez, just how far away is this mystical, magical volcano, anyway!?

    But the good news is, we have 2 more whole movies of mono-plot, unresolving boredom to look forward to. Sure, it had its moments. And the effects were great. But you know what? Those exact same things apply to SW:TPM, and yet the know-it-all Ebert-wannabes here refuse to concede it.

    Gaa! It just drives me mad to hear these guys rail against SW:AOTC before they've even seen it, criticising Lucas for wanting to make enough money to actually pay for Episode 3, and knowing that these same hypocrites are still going to pay to see Episode 2! Just so they can say "I told you so." Well guess what, Lucas will still have your money, and he doesn't care why you go see it, just as long as you go see it. And to see them turn around and hold up this agonizingly long and overhyped LOTR like some work of perfection just makes me wanna scream. So you can consider this my cyber-scream: Gaaaaa!

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    1. Re:LOTR=Good, SW*=Bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife has a reasonable tolerance for Sci Fi. She can't even sit through 5 mintues of Ep. 1. By the end of LOTR, she was crying. You tell me which is better.

    2. Re:LOTR=Good, SW*=Bad? by reoiv · · Score: 1
      I am one of the biggest Star Wars fans out there but LOTR is better on a whole than Episode I and probably Episode II. The effects were better (i.e. subtle enough not to notice them) and I cared more for the characters in it. The little dipshit, Yipee! yelling Anakin and 'Meesa Lame dumbass' Jar Jar should be shot. I liken it to Empire Strikes Back, it leaves you wanting more, ends on a down note, showing that a bigger battle is brewing later on.

      The reason they didn't destroy the ring in the first movie is because the ring was not destroyed in the first book which LOTR: FOTR is based on.

      Not reading the book is excusable, but to say and mean that they should have destroyed the ring in the first movie is just retarded. And then to bitch about movie length Get Over IT. Star Wars movies are at least 2 hours long.

      *sarcasm* Ok sure they have to destroy this 'Evil Empire' I GET THE POINT! Just Destroy it already! Why did they wait till ROTJ to do it? Why didn't Luke just go fight Vader in the first movie! GAWD! Star Wars was too Dramatic with all that acting. I wish it had more puerile Hollywood Crap in it. There should be more Jar Jar less Terrance Stamp and Liam Neeson. Acting and Drama in movies sucks!*sarcasm*

      I bet you liked the Jackal and the Replacement Killers. Those movies have no drama or cohesive story, but plenty of action and a nice tight little ending under 120 minutes to boot.

      Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But come on you really prefer Episode I to LOTR? Good lord!

  44. In (vaguely) related news.... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

    I have heard reports that those who haven't been thoroughly disgusted by Lucas and Co, what with Ep1 and N'Sync and all, are begining to line up in Seattle for Ep2. This is inane. Now yes, I admit waiting all day or night for the Special Editions. But after Ep1, no more, I may even wait for video.
    Don't these people have jobs to go to?

  45. Piett! by gughunter · · Score: 1

    My favorite "forgotten character" is Admiral Piett. You know why Darth Vader didn't kill him? Because he didn't want to get his ass kicked.

    1. Re:Piett! by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Expanded Universe doesn't count.

  46. The rebel guy on Leia's ship? by cprincipe · · Score: 1

    Rebel guy: "We... are... on... a... diplomatic... mission."
    Vader: "If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?"

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  47. Lucas can bite my muppet by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    I have just two things to say to you, "Ewoks" and "Jar Jar Binks"

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    1. Re:Lucas can bite my muppet by zzyzx · · Score: 1

      I have two things to say back: Merry and Pippen.

  48. Humans are the only ones who do anything.... by Ark · · Score: 1

    If you notice, most of those bit parts are non-human species, like the aformentioned, Nien Nunb. In the Star Wars universe, the only people who make any major changes are a hand full of humans. The non-humans are there to add color, but not detract from their human saviours.

    They fade away because they aren't as important as the humans. Damn speciesists!

  49. 1x1 background images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    totally offtopic, and preventing me from moderating this thread, and likely killing my karma to prevent my moderating ever again, but this has to be said.

    what kind of moron web designer uses 1x1 pixel images for a page background!? not only is it ridiculously slow on older browsers, but it's just plain irresponsible.

    check the code, and you'll see this: http://www.ugo.com/images/background/big_ugo2.gif

    a 1 pixel image. black. why not just use bgcolor instead? huh? please? and save me from having to watch the page crawl, pixel by everloving pixel, every time i scroll...

  50. Force of History Alert!!! by zrk · · Score: 1

    Ok, so maybe you didn't watch the final episode of the 4th season of Babylon 5, but those of us who did will probably smirk...

    1. Re:Force of History Alert!!! by abischof · · Score: 2

      zrk,

      I've seen every episode of Babylon 5 (in widescreen on Sci-Fi), but I don't quite understand your allusion. Maybe my brain's just fried from too much coding, but could you give me a hint?
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  51. Cliff Claven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wasnt good old cliff claven from cheers in the empire stikes back?

    1. Re:Cliff Claven? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1

      Yes. He was a fleet officer participating in the hunt for the Milennium Falcon

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    2. Re:Cliff Claven? by selan · · Score: 2
      I always thought that he was one of the rebels evacuating the base on Hoth. His line was something like "Okay, let's go."

      John Ratzenberger is listed as "Major Derlin" in the credits on IMDB.

  52. How could you leave off by zrk · · Score: 1

    Bob Worthington - the guy in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, who grabs Kirk by the waist, while Scotty and McCoy each hold one of his arms!

  53. Momaw Nadow and Ithor by nedron · · Score: 1
    The author of the article writes
    "I'd assume that someone, somewhere, at some point wrote a story about how Momaw was finally allowed back onto his home planet of Ithor."

    Hopefully he's wrong, since that would mean Momaw Nadow is most likely a dead man (rather Ithorian), as Ithor was one of the many planets destroyed, or laid waste, by the Yuuzhan Vong.

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  54. Imperial Dignitary by mister_jpeg · · Score: 1

    Anyone else notice the resemblance to Perry Farrell?

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  55. No kidding! by Galvatron · · Score: 1

    I always thought he deserved an academy award for "best one line walk-on." He kicked so much ass, it was unbelievable.

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  56. Sab�!! by Rka14 · · Score: 1

    Everyone loves to forget about the most under-credited character in Menace: Sabé, the queen's decoy. Without her interference at a crucial moment of the palace battle, the Trade Federation would still be holed up in Naboo.

    So instead, who do we get to see on plastered on one SW Insider magazine after another? Aurra f-ing Sing, the bald freaky long-fingered antennaed albino who has the important job of, get this, looking from right to left (or is that the other way around) as the podracers go by. Oh my, let's all bow down to her; after all, she's a bounty hunter!

    Not Entirely Serious

  57. Re:What about Greedo?(Rodian) by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

    Actually, it was more about Anakin; it shows that he's rash, impulsive, and likes to settle things with his fists every once in a while. And when Qui-Gon pulls him off of Greedo, Ani gives Q-G and EEEEEVIL glare.

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  58. Boba Fett by lposeidon · · Score: 0

    did every forget boba fett? hes is more mysterious than any of the cahracter out in the trilogy. he is one hell of a bounty hunter. he should be up on that list also. but you would find much more info on him other than a few pictures.

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  59. Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the old adage, you make more with less.
    At least we have Two Towers at Xmas for sensory OD.

  60. Re:Speaking of bit parts... by Bargearse · · Score: 1

    Gawd.. I hadn't read that far down the page yet. Gimme a break :)

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