I agree completely. It's interesting that the 'wing' that houses the so-called Democrats seems to have a fit when they get what democracy throws back at them. You got Bush, in democratic elections (don't give me more of the Florida bull), twice, and you're all up in arms. Sigh.
Indymedia isn't indy, it's just siding with those (or rather, BY those) who wants to give the impression that they have the real meat on news events. Too bad they're just as slanted as they claim FOX news is, only more so.
"Get with the program, dude. ALL our science is in its infancy. Environmental science is no different than any other science."
Nonsense. I can mention (at least) one science that is so successful and complete that it has almost destroyed itself in terms of academic achievement: Particle physics.
Furthermore, you didn't address my point - is taking (political) action on basis of flawed data and models responsible ?
Seriously, isn't it time people realised that environmental studies is still a discipline in its infancy, and political action taken on the basis of a young science is irresponsible ?
The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested.
EMPHASIS: Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested.
EMPHASIS: Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
I must admit that i have not tried replaying Marathon recordings in A1, but i doubt it'll work, the A1 internalt hav ebeen mangled over the years (compared to Minfinity) and i just dont think the movie recording functionality is intact.
Where you can find old movies, i have no idea. Google perhaps ? =)
"Face facts, the Mac "gaming community" is dwarfed only by that of Linux and BSD. It's just the way it is."
So what? The parent made no comment about that.
And (pedantic mode on), didn't you mean that the Mac gaming market dwarfs only the Linux / BSD one ? True, but then again, most of us know that, and I honestly don't see the relevance. The parent talks about how many Mac users felt stabbed in the back by Microsoft's grabbing up of Bungie.
After years of solid gaming experience by what felt like a true Mac gaming company, Bungie had provided a service ID software was reluctant to do with their DOOm series. The only other game company that has solidly supported the Mac over the years is Blizzard.
My pleasure. I still play it occasionally and host game weekends dedicated to Marathon 1-2-oo (less often, but still). When I'm bored, i also sometimes fire up one of the old Macs and lets it replay the good old Mara-recordings. 8-way Every Man for Himsekf is surprisingly humerous to watch, you know.
"PJ has an excellent analysis [groklaw.net] of this case and what software pantents mean for the industry [fatherryan.org] over at Groklaw [groklaw.net] this morning."
Oh, I can tell you what it means to the software industry, in a single sentence.
It means that ANYONE who dares to write a successful piece of software will be SCREWED as long as patents are allowed to be filed with ambiguous language and meanings that are open to interpretation.
"Consider that most forecasts are less than 50% accurate at 48hrs+. I am not dismissing the research, far from it, I just don't think the models are there yet."
You are quite correct, just not enough so.
People in the field say themselves that climatology and the study of greenhouse effects is still in its infancy. To make broad allegation of the kind propagated in thie blurp of this article is unscientific, at best.
At worst, it's used for political motives, just look at what Clinton, Kerry, Nader has used the greenhouse bogeyman for... Kyoto...
">>Does this sort of über-large wind power machine generate more energy than it takes to create, install, and maintain it? I remember reading that the smaller machines required more energy over their lifetimes than they were able to generate.
>Sounds like typical anti-wind propaganda. Its funny, every time this argument is brought forth for wind or solar, someone says 'I just read it somewhere' - I have never seen hard figures to support such a critique of the economics of alternative energy."
Funny thing is that you didn't provide any facts or figures yourself.
"Not that there's any excuse for being exempt from the Kyoto agreement."
Perhaps not if you're a full believer of the Kyoto treaty being Gods gift to mankind.
Only it isn't so. AS explained earlier, Kyoto is supposed to redistribute wealth from "rich" countries to "poorer" countries on a psudo-scientific basis.
That is, you're using lies to transfer values. Now, explain to me how this is unexcusable to say NO THANKS to ?
"Please tell me how exempting the fastest growing, most poluting economy on the face of the planet will make one bit of difference."
Co2 emissions isn't pollution. Carbon gas emissions are a completely natural part of organic life and use of energy to further human goals and allow humans to achieve prosperity.
Claiming that Co2 emmissions are pollution only shows that you have jumped on the pseudo-scientific (and pseudo-environmentalist) bandwagon. Kyoto my be seen as an environmentally good initiative, but beneath the good intentions, it's a plot to redistribute from industrialised countries to developing countries, following the traditional socialist doctring of anyone being better off than anyone else has exploited those that are worse off. Read up on how Kyoto should allow "rich" countries to buy Co2 quotas from "poor" countries... for a price, of course.
"Over at Internet Storm Center Deb Hale's 'In search of the bot net' entry for September 25 recounts a grueling hunt for all the.exe's, reg entries and sources for a bot infection of a 60 server corporate network. What a nightmare!"...Apple Macs and Assorted Linucen, curing.exe, registry and bot infections for 5 years and counting!
>Chomsky is very keen to maximise individual rights, he just focuses very heavily on social rights - so privacy rights, and civil liberties etc. - and is less interested in economic rights.
Social "rights" can only exist when individual rights have been trampled. Economic rights (the rights to keep and make use of my work outcome as I see fit) are basically individual rights - when you omit them, you have per definition trampled individual rights.
>I think if you actually read Chomsky you would find that he would be quite keen to drastically reduce the size of government, and its role.
Sorry to shatter your misconceptions, but I have read a good deal of Chomsky's writings and listened to his audiobooks a number of times.
Comsky is offering nothing new. His message is that of oldstyle semi-utopian socialism packaged under new labels, mainly "libertarian socialism".
Wakeupcall - socialism has never been freedom seeking. The alleged freedoms socialism and its collectivist pendants seek is based on gross transgressions on selected minorities, usually the much-denounced capitalists. And when one minority is transgressed upon, it is merely a matter of time before the next is to follow.
>>"As for Chomsky, he's a libertarian socialist or "anarchist", and it is these libertarian socialists that used the term "libertarian" long before the right-wingers adopted it in the US. " >"Indeed. The term has been somewhat coopted by more right leaning individuals, along with objectivists and others like them to mean "let the market decide everything"."
First. Please prove that the term "libertarian" was (widely) politically applied by socialists or otehr collectivists before David Nolan founded the Libertarians in the USA.
Second. That fact that you both use the left-right scale to label others merely goes to show that neither of you have a grasp of political diversity, which is not confined to a primitive one-dimensional axis. Labelling others as x-wingers is a mark of attempted segregation and mudslinging, not of rational debate.
Lastly, there can be no rights without property rights. And as history has shows, there can be no prosperty without it, either.
Property stems from ownership of my own body, and from there on, other ownership rights are based. On the other hand, it appears you would like to deny me and other our property rights along the lines laid out by various collectivist utility models. Naturally, I can only condemt such abuse of my freedom.
"Americans like Noam Chomsky can claim the label 'libertarian socialist' with the same validity that Milton Friedman can be considered a 'libertarian capitalist'. "
No, they can not.
Libertarianism seeks to minimize the extent and regulatory powers of the state and deny special interest groups from achieving political power. Noam Chomasky, Ralph Nader and whonot wants to increase the state's size, reach, power to legislate over private life, forcibly redistribute income, and turn a blind eye/allow union transgressions against both their own members, non-union employees and employers.
That is per definition the antithesis of libertarianism.
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I agree completely. It's interesting that the 'wing' that houses the so-called Democrats seems to have a fit when they get what democracy throws back at them. You got Bush, in democratic elections (don't give me more of the Florida bull), twice, and you're all up in arms. Sigh.
Damn.
;)
Well, in this case, the dike WILL collapse, and RIAA-town will be washed away.
This is like the proverbial little dutch boy trying to stop a dike collapse by sticking his finger in the hole of the breach.
You cant stop information freedom, RIAA. The genie IS out of the bottle.
Thanks for your feedback. No, I was really trying to be informative, but.... well. You know.
Microsoft products are more vulnerable, despite that Microsoft uses statistics that says otherwise to make you believe otherwise.
"... Net War columnist Wendy Grossman in an article discussing the recent raids on Indymedia. She makes an interesting case."
Interesting? How so ? Because it concerns Indymedia, which is well known for propagating typical left wing.... oh, my bad, CORRECT* opinions ?
*) read: anti-capitalist, anti-corporate, anti-US, anti-bush, andti-prettymucheverything.
Indymedia isn't indy, it's just siding with those (or rather, BY those) who wants to give the impression that they have the real meat on news events. Too bad they're just as slanted as they claim FOX news is, only more so.
"Get with the program, dude. ALL our science is in its infancy. Environmental science is no different than any other science."
Nonsense. I can mention (at least) one science that is so successful and complete that it has almost destroyed itself in terms of academic achievement: Particle physics.
Furthermore, you didn't address my point - is taking (political) action on basis of flawed data and models responsible ?
...those EEEVIL RIGHTWINGERS!!! BWAHAHAHA!
Seriously, isn't it time people realised that environmental studies is still a discipline in its infancy, and political action taken on the basis of a young science is irresponsible ?
Snipped from Badnarik's campaign site:
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MICHAEL BADNARIK ARRESTED
October 8
8:38PM CT
The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested.
EMPHASIS: Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
http://badnarik.org/newsfromthetrail.php?p=1346
MICHAEL BADNARIK ARRESTED
October 8
8:38PM CT
The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested.
EMPHASIS: Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
http://badnarik.org/newsfromthetrail.php?p=1346
I must admit that i have not tried replaying Marathon recordings in A1, but i doubt it'll work, the A1 internalt hav ebeen mangled over the years (compared to Minfinity) and i just dont think the movie recording functionality is intact.
Where you can find old movies, i have no idea. Google perhaps ? =)
"Face facts, the Mac "gaming community" is dwarfed only by that of Linux and BSD. It's just the way it is."
So what? The parent made no comment about that.
And (pedantic mode on), didn't you mean that the Mac gaming market dwarfs only the Linux / BSD one ? True, but then again, most of us know that, and I honestly don't see the relevance. The parent talks about how many Mac users felt stabbed in the back by Microsoft's grabbing up of Bungie.
After years of solid gaming experience by what felt like a true Mac gaming company, Bungie had provided a service ID software was reluctant to do with their DOOm series. The only other game company that has solidly supported the Mac over the years is Blizzard.
My pleasure. I still play it occasionally and host game weekends dedicated to Marathon 1-2-oo (less often, but still). When I'm bored, i also sometimes fire up one of the old Macs and lets it replay the good old Mara-recordings. 8-way Every Man for Himsekf is surprisingly humerous to watch, you know.
Marathon still is playable, also for Windows and Linux:
http://source.bungie.org
"PJ has an excellent analysis [groklaw.net] of this case and what software pantents mean for the industry [fatherryan.org] over at Groklaw [groklaw.net] this morning."
Oh, I can tell you what it means to the software industry, in a single sentence.
It means that ANYONE who dares to write a successful piece of software will be SCREWED as long as patents are allowed to be filed with ambiguous language and meanings that are open to interpretation.
"Consider that most forecasts are less than 50% accurate at 48hrs+. I am not dismissing the research, far from it, I just don't think the models are there yet."
You are quite correct, just not enough so.
People in the field say themselves that climatology and the study of greenhouse effects is still in its infancy. To make broad allegation of the kind propagated in thie blurp of this article is unscientific, at best.
At worst, it's used for political motives, just look at what Clinton, Kerry, Nader has used the greenhouse bogeyman for... Kyoto...
"Gates is noting that Linux is taking over, and claims that 10 years forward Linux and Windows will be the only OSs left in the market."
Is this along the same line as when Ballmer said i 1995 that "Apple and the Mac OS is irrelevant from now on"? (paraphrased)
Oh, the powers of the oracle!
">>Does this sort of über-large wind power machine generate more energy than it takes to create, install, and maintain it? I remember reading that the smaller machines required more energy over their lifetimes than they were able to generate.
>Sounds like typical anti-wind propaganda. Its funny, every time this argument is brought forth for wind or solar, someone says 'I just read it somewhere' - I have never seen hard figures to support such a critique of the economics of alternative energy."
Funny thing is that you didn't provide any facts or figures yourself.
"Not that there's any excuse for being exempt from the Kyoto agreement."
Perhaps not if you're a full believer of the Kyoto treaty being Gods gift to mankind.
Only it isn't so. AS explained earlier, Kyoto is supposed to redistribute wealth from "rich" countries to "poorer" countries on a psudo-scientific basis.
That is, you're using lies to transfer values. Now, explain to me how this is unexcusable to say NO THANKS to ?
"Please tell me how exempting the fastest growing, most poluting economy on the face of the planet will make one bit of difference."
Co2 emissions isn't pollution. Carbon gas emissions are a completely natural part of organic life and use of energy to further human goals and allow humans to achieve prosperity.
Claiming that Co2 emmissions are pollution only shows that you have jumped on the pseudo-scientific (and pseudo-environmentalist) bandwagon. Kyoto my be seen as an environmentally good initiative, but beneath the good intentions, it's a plot to redistribute from industrialised countries to developing countries, following the traditional socialist doctring of anyone being better off than anyone else has exploited those that are worse off. Read up on how Kyoto should allow "rich" countries to buy Co2 quotas from "poor" countries... for a price, of course.
"Over at Internet Storm Center Deb Hale's 'In search of the bot net' entry for September 25 recounts a grueling hunt for all the .exe's, reg entries and sources for a bot infection of a 60 server corporate network. What a nightmare!" ...Apple Macs and Assorted Linucen, curing .exe, registry and bot infections for 5 years and counting!
>Chomsky is very keen to maximise individual rights, he just focuses very heavily on social rights - so privacy rights, and civil liberties etc. - and is less interested in economic rights.
Social "rights" can only exist when individual rights have been trampled. Economic rights (the rights to keep and make use of my work outcome as I see fit) are basically individual rights - when you omit them, you have per definition trampled individual rights.
>I think if you actually read Chomsky you would find that he would be quite keen to drastically reduce the size of government, and its role.
Sorry to shatter your misconceptions, but I have read a good deal of Chomsky's writings and listened to his audiobooks a number of times.
Comsky is offering nothing new. His message is that of oldstyle semi-utopian socialism packaged under new labels, mainly "libertarian socialism".
Wakeupcall - socialism has never been freedom seeking. The alleged freedoms socialism and its collectivist pendants seek is based on gross transgressions on selected minorities, usually the much-denounced capitalists. And when one minority is transgressed upon, it is merely a matter of time before the next is to follow.
Learn from history, my friend...
>>"As for Chomsky, he's a libertarian socialist or "anarchist", and it is these libertarian socialists that used the term "libertarian" long before the right-wingers adopted it in the US.
"
>"Indeed. The term has been somewhat coopted by more right leaning individuals, along with objectivists and others like them to mean "let the market decide everything"."
First. Please prove that the term "libertarian" was (widely) politically applied by socialists or otehr collectivists before David Nolan founded the Libertarians in the USA.
Second. That fact that you both use the left-right scale to label others merely goes to show that neither of you have a grasp of political diversity, which is not confined to a primitive one-dimensional axis. Labelling others as x-wingers is a mark of attempted segregation and mudslinging, not of rational debate.
Lastly, there can be no rights without property rights. And as history has shows, there can be no prosperty without it, either.
Property stems from ownership of my own body, and from there on, other ownership rights are based. On the other hand, it appears you would like to deny me and other our property rights along the lines laid out by various collectivist utility models. Naturally, I can only condemt such abuse of my freedom.
"Americans like Noam Chomsky can claim the label 'libertarian socialist' with the same validity that Milton Friedman can be considered a 'libertarian capitalist'. "
No, they can not.
Libertarianism seeks to minimize the extent and regulatory powers of the state and deny special interest groups from achieving political power. Noam Chomasky, Ralph Nader and whonot wants to increase the state's size, reach, power to legislate over private life, forcibly redistribute income, and turn a blind eye/allow union transgressions against both their own members, non-union employees and employers.
That is per definition the antithesis of libertarianism.
I think thats the first funny AC I've ever seen. ;)