Music companies are not going to even consider Ogg as a viable music format until it is completely integrated into Windows Media Player, and a plug-in is easily downloadable from a major website.
Until that time, it is going to be a niche format.
Further, the continued lack of a fully featured WMP plug-in just shows the vorbis people aren't too considered with wide market appeal.
"indoctrinated by communist teachers"? Whoa there Joe, the Reds ain't comin' to getcha, so settle down!
I have a stack of communist newspapers given to me during the protests in Chelsea which contradict your statement. Many of these papers advocate violent revolution.
However, if you take the intellectually lazy route and write them off as "indoctrinated by communists", you're falling into the trap of saying "real Americans don't need to listen to the views of those people"---dangerous ground that we don't want to retread.
That wasn't the point of my discussion. My point is the vast majority of the people at these protests were not citizens of New York City, but were instead students educated by communist professors with a penchant for protesting.
Laugh at ideas all you want, even laugh at individuals, but dismissing entire groups of people out of hand is the method of racists and bigots. "He's one of those people" is never a good reason to dismiss a person or argument.
I really don't see what this has to do with occupying public property and inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of people.
At the same time, I do have nothing but contempt for the angry, communist masses because it is THEY who cannot have a legitimate debate, as evidenced by their behavior.
Utilizing mass numbers of people only works because it is intimidating. That is the tactic used when free debate ceases and revolution begins. Frankly, I am looking forward to the revolution. I am tired of the debate. I would much rather settle this with blood and courage.
At least I am honest however. I don't use intimidation tactics and hide behind "free speech". You go back behind your veil of self righteousness now.
Which is like saying I shouldn't buy an ipod while there are people starving anywhere. Or wait, I should't buy a cell phone. Or a CD. Or even another pair of shoes if my first pair has any wear left - as long as someone somewhere is hungry.
No, its like saying the State shouldn't provide you with free college education when most roads in your country aren't paved! We are NOT talking about the freedom to perform research, ie to sit down and study whatever you want. We are talking about institutional research. Why is this so complicated for the slashdot idiots to understand? India spends enormous sums on building these modern universities, giving people free education (very, very few people), and research grants. It sounds, on the surface, interesting and practical, but it hasn't turned out that way. Read up on recent election results to find out more.
Its a tempatation when dealing with figures to step too far and make decisions regarding peoples lives and freedoms - remove an arm here, make someone work in a coal mine there - as if its OK because the over-all picture is neater.
Freedom: the great slashdot Mantra. What do you know of freedom? Does the average Indian have the freedom to partake in this great research? NO because he can't even read! Does the average Indian have the means to ever own his own home? NO, he can't even find a job.
Freedom to you is such a simplistic notion you can scarcely understand the vast majority of Indians have barely the freedom to exist, let alone live. Freedom is an irrelevant word when dealing with a country like India.
I await your pointing out where I said any such thing. I'm a patient man, but I suppose I'll be waiting for some time
So your discussion about per unit of wealth research spending was relevant to this discussion in what way? You just decided to point out some facts?
Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. 500km out of 3.3 million kilometers of highways are more than two lanes? Puh-leeze. Give me more sources to back that up and I'll consider it accurate, but until then I'm gonna flatly reject this.
If you read the link I provided, you would see it gave detailed information on road improvement projects, funded by the World Bank. The CIA info you cite is irrelevant, and non-descript. As I said "Paved" in India includes things like gravel, which is also detailed on the World Bank site. The CIA factbook uses the published number for paved roads without clarifying this. Also, having been to India, including every major city, I would say the 500km estimate is quite accurate.
Heh. Calls me on ad-hominems and then starts throwing false dichotomies around as though they have a connect with the real world. How cute.
What dichotomy have I presented? Have you been reading too much Marx? We are talking about resource allocation.
My usual question is to ask you where you get the idea that a nation of one billion people is only capable of either doing "useful" research, or the stuff you're dismissing as frivolous. You imply that they shouldn't lift a finger to do anything other than the most basic-needs type of stuff and discard anything else because it doesn't have immediate practical benefits.
Yes, that's right. These researchers were trained, educated, and supported by the people. Do they not have some duty to reciprocate? This is why the "India Shining" bullshit was completely rejected by the people of India. The rise of an intellectual elite, at immense cost to the general population, has done nothing to help them.
People keep making this asinine claim that the United States and a couple of other western countries are the only nations which should - or should be permitted to - undertake any kind of advanced research, with this general overtone of "you're not ready for this kind of knowledge yet." That strikes me as little more than despicable, hateful condescension, and I give it little more than the tiny scrap of respect if almost deserves, and nothing more.
I really fail to see how you are coming to these conclusions. I ask you once again, what if those starving children found out how much of India's national resources go to research? You are gleefully overlooking the fact that the resource allocation you are defending is indirectly resulting in immense human suffering. How do you justify this? This also proves you have never been to India, as the human suffering there is almost endless. I am talking about human suffering, and you are talking about western countries. Why are you rambling about this? You seem like a college student obsessed with deconstructionism, and you presume I am a western person, for whom western imperialism is the guiding purpose behind my every thought. Are you sad that Jacques Derrida died?
So what, are you advocating that Indian researchers should be told what they may and may not learn about? And who gives you the right to define what is an obscure enough technology for us Civilized Folk to be able to learn about to the exclusion of everyone else?
As long as they supported by the state and the people, yes. The recent election results in India support my statements here. I have the right to advocate whatever the fuck I want to advocate. Tought shit for you. Good thing I have several hundred million Indian voters on my side, where you have just your penis to stroke.
No, it's a very old and beneficial one. The current sickness is the active defense of ignorance. Unlike knowledge for its own sake, this one is actually dangerous. The ignor
I believe this is where you explain why paved roads are a prerequisite for researching and publishing papers. As much fun as it is to compare apples and oranges, your comparison here is only a couple of baby steps beyond "oh yeah? Well, you're funny looking!"
I think it is quite relevant, and I think you ad hominem attacks are rather uncalled for. What you are implying is that the US should be spending on research at least as much, on a per unit of wealth basis (still as of yet not defined to my satisfaction)as India is currently doing.
The purpose of research, which you fail to recognize, is to brink new technology or ideas to a particular culture, and thus the world. The inability of India to engage in a basic measure of civilization despite have a huge surplus population speaks volumes of their priorities and organizational efficiency. What worth can their research possibly have if such basic activities prove impossible for them?
You fail to understand how major aspects of a society are nowhere near as independent as you seem to believe. This is a sign of intellectual immaturity and youthful egoism, as you cannot see how ultimately every societal pursuit is intimiately related to form a culture.
I'm also kinda curious as to how much you know about the country anyway. You do know that India has weird things like highways, major cities, electricity and so on, right? This claim that they're somehow trapped two millenia in the past is pretty ignorant, even by the standards of Slashdot's usual brilliance about anything outside of the US' borders.
I have been to India. I have been in towns where electricty is off just as frequently as it is on. I have been to villages without ANY electricity. I have seen that most roads are certainly not paved, even in major cities. There are some highways, but it is not a comprehensive national system by any means. Highways in India are what we call roads in the US. Roads in India are any man-made attempt at surface equalization. Packed earth counts as a road. Gravel counts as a road. Even the World Bank indicates only 500km of highways in India are actualy more than two lanes.
I know people have this kneejerk reaction to assume anything coming out of other countries has to be some affront or threat to Our Way Of Life that must be put down as much as possible, but things have been getting more infantile than usual these days. "Oh, but nothing they do matters, because they're not us yet!"
Why don't you go ask the starving children, dozens of whom will come to greet you the moment you step foot in that country, if that research means anything to them. I have no doubt that perhaps some interesting research goes on in India, but clearly there is disconnect between the ultimate goal of research, ie building a greater civilization, and the research that is currently taking place. This has nothing to do with India as a whole, as this research is certainly benefiting several hundred million people there. It is those people in fact I am referring to. The intellectual elite of that nation who have had the educational opportunity to become researchers, should instead focus on their immediate nation. Researching obscure technologies is a luxury for advanced civilizations, which comparitively, India is not.
Research for the sake of research is a modern sickness.
Also, America is even behind 3rd world countries like India & China in terms of science research papers when looked at on a per-capita-wealth basis (numbers of papers per unit of wealth per country). Note on the graph how much to the right America is when compared to, say, India. India publishes more peer-reviewed science papers more capita wealth than does America.
Until India is able to pave their roads to a reasonable extent AT LEAST consistent with the Roman Empire of approximately 2000 years ago, then we can talk.
So what if India has more papers per unit of wealth (whatever that means), they dont even have enough wealth to pave their roads! This entire planet is rock. They can't find a million unemployed people and have them start digging?
These apes have not been 'discovered', they have simply been newly categorised. The idea that they have never been seen before is a nice idea but nonsense.
Did this AC read the fucking article? No, because even there it mentions they have photographs from the 1890's, when the region was part of the Belgian Congo.
I'm sorry, but your ( and my ) unrelenting consumption is killing off wildlife apace. Don't let stories like this one make you think otherwise
How is "consumption" affecting the Congo? What DO they export? Nothing. I don't think the problem in Africa is overconsumption.
Shows that will never make it to other countries. That draws younger viewers away, because hit-TV-shows like CSI, 24, Sex and the City, Ally McBeal, King of Queens,...
Do they show the "unedited" version of Sex and the City in Germany?
Sorry, liar -- the vast majority of people were arrested during the convention itself, not during the Critical Mass parade. By the way, Critical Mass does the same thing one Friday EACH MONTH -- the police have encouraged them.
It is not at all the same thing, it is never anywhere NEAR that many people, and it usually is restricted to parks. Trying to suggest Prospect Park should be closed to vehicular traffic all the time is a worthy goal. Its a park. There is no reason to allow cars to drive through it.
Blocking major streets in Manhattan for extended periods of time is a totally different scenario. That is why they were arrested.
Hey, liar, Critical Mass has nothing to do with the subway -- they rode a group of bicycles through the streets.
Hey, you fucking idiot, do you know how to read and think logically? How is some old woman in a wheelchair supposed to take the subway? Hmm? Are YOU going to carry her down the stairs and then back up again? No? I didn't think so. No, if 5000 bicycles are blocking the street, what the fuck is she supposed to do?
Question -- if they were legally arresting people -- why didn't they tell them what they were charged with? Why didn't they let them call lawyers for over 24 hours?
The police are allowed to hold anyone for up to 24 hours. Sorry, that's the way it works. You don't have a right to a lawyer until you are charged with a crime. That 24 hours is to allow the investigation procedure to work. I guess you have never had a run in with the law. Good for you.
I've lived here for 20 years.
You might be a "New York City resident" but you are a bare-faced liar and I call you on it.
Yeah, I sure am lying. I am not the one citing 2600 is a source on this protest. Also, there was no video of this cop driving into the crowd. That is an absolute lie. Do you think this would be a matter of debate if such a video existed? Why isn't THAT video on the internet? Especially when the video of the guy kicking the shit out of the cop was all over the news? Further, even if what you say is true, is that justification for a thug to start kicking a man on the ground, in the head several times?
No, I think you are justifying barbaric behavior with fiction.
Many of these people ARE self described communists. I fucking talk to them on a regular basis. I see their communist literature. I listen to their diatribes against capitalism almost daily.
The Communist Party was out in force during the protests in Chelsea. I have the fliers and newspapers to prove it.
Granted, these people probably are communists more along the lines of Jean-Paul Sartre than Josef Stalin, but so what?
Also, by the way, I don't give a fuck about your family. Your post smacks of ignorance (especially the graffitti). Do you see it? No. Does your family tell you about it? Apparently not. So why tell me?
(There are also reports of non-violent, LICENSED protesters being jailed for three days, then never charged with anything, just to keep them off the street while the RNC was in town. (And people who were just walking to the corner grocery store getting caught up and locked up along with them.) Which is illegal, but is something it looks like we're going to have to get used to.)
This is complete utter bullshit. The majority of arrests were of the bicycle brigade which WAS blocking streets and making it difficult for many old and infirm people to get home. Our old subway system doesn't have elevators in most stations, so people who can't use stairs are stuck riding the bus or taking taxis. Is it fair to force some old lady to sit in a bus for an hour because some communist students can't figure out how to persuade people in more rational fahions than blocking streets?
The other arrests occurred after police officers were attacked, one of whom is going to be seriously fucked up for the rest of his life. There is ample video footage of surround protestors doing NOTHING to stop the perpetrater of that crime from nearly kicking the cop to death, and many encouraged it.
Thankfully, I am not in a position of power because people like that would be executed for failing to act as a responsible citizen. It is a basic staple of civilized society to come to the aid of your fellow citizens.
None of those protestors would have been arrested if they stopped the violence and informed police who the criminal was.
And the usual random assortment of graffiti, vandalism, and silliness on both sides. Which is almost certainly just drunk partisan college student asshats.
Another non-NY resident talking about shit he doesn't know about.
The graffitti is EVERYWHERE. It is much more coordinated than random acts of spray painting. People use stencils, custom graphics are added to subway advertising, and fliers are applied to private property. This is all in addition to the regular bullshit involving markers and spraypaint.
Lists of names don't kill people. People kill people. With guns and lists of names. Why do you want to outlaw the lists of names?
I agree with your license plan. All protestors in the future must be licensed, and their names, telephone numbers, home address, and place of employment must be published on a city website.
What did these stuffed shirt Red Staters expect, showing up in the toughest Democrat constituency in America with dazzled stares?
Being a New York City resident, I can tell you that New York is far less democratic than probably all of the top 100 cities. There are some places, like Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, New Haven, Bridgeport, Washington, DC, and Philadelphia where there are NO republicans on the city council and they haven't had a republican mayor since before the depression.
New York has many, many districts that are strongly republican, such as large parts of Brooklyn, all of Staten Island and most of Queens. We haven't had a Democrat mayor since 1993, probably when you were still in grade school.
Further, I can tell you that the vast majority of protestors were not city residents. Most were students from all over the country, indoctrinated by communist teachers at surrounding universities. Most New York residents who had the opportunity LEFT the city to avoid the mayhem. The rest have jobs that make it a little difficult to go on a rampage on city streets.
I unfortunately did not leave, but one thing I can also tell you, as I chose to ride my bike during these times as it is the quickest way around during disasters, 90% of the protestors were White and between 18 and 30. These protests were nothing more than a generation educated by communists looking for something to protest.
We don't have any oppressive laws anymore, so instead the only think left to do is villify people. Its not the law that's bad, but the people in government.
Even more, I can't think of any cases where prominant Republican party members (at least those not already surrounded by Secret Service agents) were targets for assassination.
Tell that to some of the victims of the protests during the RNC.
What about the riot groups that have broken into RNC campaign centers throughout the country?
I think this post really highlights the tendency of people to believe their own personal views are virtuous while opposing views are virtuous. The number of attacks on abortion providers pails in comparison to the general mayhem caused by liberal protestors in the past year alone. The reason is simple, most of the vocal liberals are nothing more than communists, and as such support violent resistence.
Now, I personally am not saying violence is in and of itself wrong, as political change without it is , for the most part, an extreme rarity. That said, to suggest that liberals have not intimidated conservatives EVER smacks of sheer ignorance.
Unfortunately, it is important to note that your attitude is what ultimately leads to civil war. When both sides fail to see that their opponents are also trying to find the best solution for the future, free debate becomes impossible. When we can no longer rationally debate governmental policy, the only alternative left is violence.
In a way, your attitude is what ultimately leads to the violence you believe your opponents advocate. See you at the front.
The K6 233 was the fastest processor on the block for a 3 months or so in 1997, before the Pentium II was released. It even beat the Pentium Pro 233 at the time. 2 years later, they had the Athlon.
Would you volunteer to be in that 10 million? How about those you care about? How about 1000 Americans?
I think you missed the point here. life is struggle.
Animals don't volunteer to committ suicide for some higher purpose, nor should humans. The natural way is to fight for survival. What this means is I would kill you to survive. Because I am American, of course I am going to be loyal to my own people. Would you suggest a wolf decide to kill his own pack for all of wolfdom? No, he is going to kill the competing pack.
However, since you are apparently NOT American, I would have no problems sterilizing your entire population so that in a generation your people and culture will cease to exist.
The hysteria generated by ~2000 deaths in the US on Sept 11 compared with the indifference shown over 3 million tutsis deaths, or ferver for a war with 10,000 iraqi civilian casualties, speaks better than any words could about how the western world values human life in other cultures.
What the fuck fantasy world are you living in? I've got news for you, the vast majority of people in this world have about as much concern for Americans as Americans do for all those other people. The reality is we have a million feel good peacenik groups complaining about the suffering in some god foresaken shithold marching on the streets every day. Are the people of Japan donating hundreds of millions of dollars to feed the starving Ethiopians? Do they even have a Sally Struthers in Japan? Are the people of France donating their free time and resources to rebuild Middle Germany? Or the rest of Eastern Europe?
Americans have consistently shown greater concern for the world in the 20th century than any other nation. If anything, this has been a mistake. Would Africa be so tremendously overpopulated if snivelling Americans didn't bother feeding all those people?
No, we need a new Sally Struthers.. who does nothing but hand out sterilization and abortion pills like candy. Put it in the food supply, the fertilizer! let it rain from the clouds far above!
3 million tutsis were slaughtered in a mere three months with nothing more than machetes.
3 million people die every single day for no reason what so ever.
Who gives a fuck about 3 million people? There are 6 billion on this planet, and thats looking to double every 25 years. What is the bigger problem here? 3 million deaths? Or 100 billion new lives?
I so tired of the ridiculous value judgement that death = bad, life = good.
We are on the verge of destroying the world. Its not because of some vast conspiracy. Its because everyone on this planet wants to keep fucking and having lots of children. Maybe if 10 million died every day, we could prevent this planet from turning into one gigantic apartment complex.
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Well, you have to admit, its a rarity you can't/don't want to bike to work.
Does it make sense to buy a motorized bicycle for this purpose? Especially when you can take the subway/bus/cab?
I guess if you are in the middle of nowhere, where truly you hae to own your own transportation, this could work. But in the vast majority of places, there ARE other options that are more expensive than biking, and nowhere near as fast (during typical rush hour conditions)... but thats why we bike.
By your logic then, its forever going to be 95% windows 4% mac, and 1% unix.
We have been hearing about Linux on the desktop for six years now. There are very specific reasons people don't use it, X-windows being one of those big reasons. The goal here is to make a fully functional OS that will appeal to the average user, when the time comes that OS software is too expensive. We are rapidly approaching the $100 computer. Maybe this OS can succeed in that market.
Noting like the one liner comments thrown out there as quickly as possible purely to get some free mode points getting thrown away.
Gee, just because anyone aims to do anything doesn't mean they will actually succeed! Its not new unless it is a 100% finished product!
Come on. Its a milestone release. Quit functional for a.54 release, AND its making significant, rapid progress. Shouldn't you be saying something encouraging like "THANKS GUYS FOR BRING An OPEN SOURCE, X-WINDOWS FREE OS TO THE DESKTOP!"
Or maybe "Keep up the good work"
Sheesh, no wonder people don't finish their work, pessimists get you down!
Actually, no I am not referring to isomers. I don't give a fuck about the structure of the molecule. What makes ozone unique from regular O2? Not the structure, but the fact it is unstable.
There are over 10 different isotopes of oxygen. Are you trying to tell me that no matter what other element one of those ten isotopes bonds to, the end result is that form of oxygen is exactly the same, ie there is no difference in the amount of time it takes for that particular molecule to degrade? This is one of the FEW differences isotopes have between each other.
I could easily see how different isotopes will produce forms of ozone that have differing levels of stability. Do you even know what an isotope is? Or how molecules form?
Further, I wasn't referring to ozone specifically. You said that all molecules are identical, if they are composed of the same quantity of atoms. Not only is that false from the isomer standpoint which you casually mentioned, but it is wrong given the number of neutrons frequently varies, especially in places like the stratosphere that are constantly bombared by solar radiation!!!
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Music companies are not going to even consider Ogg as a viable music format until it is completely integrated into Windows Media Player, and a plug-in is easily downloadable from a major website.
Until that time, it is going to be a niche format.
Further, the continued lack of a fully featured WMP plug-in just shows the vorbis people aren't too considered with wide market appeal.
"indoctrinated by communist teachers"? Whoa there Joe, the Reds ain't comin' to getcha, so settle down!
I have a stack of communist newspapers given to me during the protests in Chelsea which contradict your statement. Many of these papers advocate violent revolution.
However, if you take the intellectually lazy route and write them off as "indoctrinated by communists", you're falling into the trap of saying "real Americans don't need to listen to the views of those people"---dangerous ground that we don't want to retread.
That wasn't the point of my discussion. My point is the vast majority of the people at these protests were not citizens of New York City, but were instead students educated by communist professors with a penchant for protesting.
Laugh at ideas all you want, even laugh at individuals, but dismissing entire groups of people out of hand is the method of racists and bigots. "He's one of those people" is never a good reason to dismiss a person or argument.
I really don't see what this has to do with occupying public property and inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of people.
At the same time, I do have nothing but contempt for the angry, communist masses because it is THEY who cannot have a legitimate debate, as evidenced by their behavior.
Utilizing mass numbers of people only works because it is intimidating. That is the tactic used when free debate ceases and revolution begins. Frankly, I am looking forward to the revolution. I am tired of the debate. I would much rather settle this with blood and courage.
At least I am honest however. I don't use intimidation tactics and hide behind "free speech". You go back behind your veil of self righteousness now.
Which is like saying I shouldn't buy an ipod while there are people starving anywhere. Or wait, I should't buy a cell phone. Or a CD. Or even another pair of shoes if my first pair has any wear left - as long as someone somewhere is hungry.
No, its like saying the State shouldn't provide you with free college education when most roads in your country aren't paved! We are NOT talking about the freedom to perform research, ie to sit down and study whatever you want. We are talking about institutional research. Why is this so complicated for the slashdot idiots to understand? India spends enormous sums on building these modern universities, giving people free education (very, very few people), and research grants. It sounds, on the surface, interesting and practical, but it hasn't turned out that way. Read up on recent election results to find out more.
Its a tempatation when dealing with figures to step too far and make decisions regarding peoples lives and freedoms - remove an arm here, make someone work in a coal mine there - as if its OK because the over-all picture is neater.
Freedom: the great slashdot Mantra. What do you know of freedom? Does the average Indian have the freedom to partake in this great research? NO because he can't even read! Does the average Indian have the means to ever own his own home? NO, he can't even find a job.
Freedom to you is such a simplistic notion you can scarcely understand the vast majority of Indians have barely the freedom to exist, let alone live. Freedom is an irrelevant word when dealing with a country like India.
I await your pointing out where I said any such thing. I'm a patient man, but I suppose I'll be waiting for some time
So your discussion about per unit of wealth research spending was relevant to this discussion in what way? You just decided to point out some facts?
Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. 500km out of 3.3 million kilometers of highways are more than two lanes? Puh-leeze. Give me more sources to back that up and I'll consider it accurate, but until then I'm gonna flatly reject this.
If you read the link I provided, you would see it gave detailed information on road improvement projects, funded by the World Bank. The CIA info you cite is irrelevant, and non-descript. As I said "Paved" in India includes things like gravel, which is also detailed on the World Bank site. The CIA factbook uses the published number for paved roads without clarifying this. Also, having been to India, including every major city, I would say the 500km estimate is quite accurate.
Heh. Calls me on ad-hominems and then starts throwing false dichotomies around as though they have a connect with the real world. How cute.
What dichotomy have I presented? Have you been reading too much Marx? We are talking about resource allocation.
My usual question is to ask you where you get the idea that a nation of one billion people is only capable of either doing "useful" research, or the stuff you're dismissing as frivolous. You imply that they shouldn't lift a finger to do anything other than the most basic-needs type of stuff and discard anything else because it doesn't have immediate practical benefits.
Yes, that's right. These researchers were trained, educated, and supported by the people. Do they not have some duty to reciprocate? This is why the "India Shining" bullshit was completely rejected by the people of India. The rise of an intellectual elite, at immense cost to the general population, has done nothing to help them.
People keep making this asinine claim that the United States and a couple of other western countries are the only nations which should - or should be permitted to - undertake any kind of advanced research, with this general overtone of "you're not ready for this kind of knowledge yet." That strikes me as little more than despicable, hateful condescension, and I give it little more than the tiny scrap of respect if almost deserves, and nothing more.
I really fail to see how you are coming to these conclusions. I ask you once again, what if those starving children found out how much of India's national resources go to research? You are gleefully overlooking the fact that the resource allocation you are defending is indirectly resulting in immense human suffering. How do you justify this? This also proves you have never been to India, as the human suffering there is almost endless. I am talking about human suffering, and you are talking about western countries. Why are you rambling about this? You seem like a college student obsessed with deconstructionism, and you presume I am a western person, for whom western imperialism is the guiding purpose behind my every thought. Are you sad that Jacques Derrida died?
So what, are you advocating that Indian researchers should be told what they may and may not learn about? And who gives you the right to define what is an obscure enough technology for us Civilized Folk to be able to learn about to the exclusion of everyone else?
As long as they supported by the state and the people, yes. The recent election results in India support my statements here. I have the right to advocate whatever the fuck I want to advocate. Tought shit for you. Good thing I have several hundred million Indian voters on my side, where you have just your penis to stroke.
No, it's a very old and beneficial one. The current sickness is the active defense of ignorance. Unlike knowledge for its own sake, this one is actually dangerous. The ignor
I believe this is where you explain why paved roads are a prerequisite for researching and publishing papers. As much fun as it is to compare apples and oranges, your comparison here is only a couple of baby steps beyond "oh yeah? Well, you're funny looking!"
I think it is quite relevant, and I think you ad hominem attacks are rather uncalled for. What you are implying is that the US should be spending on research at least as much, on a per unit of wealth basis (still as of yet not defined to my satisfaction)as India is currently doing.
The purpose of research, which you fail to recognize, is to brink new technology or ideas to a particular culture, and thus the world. The inability of India to engage in a basic measure of civilization despite have a huge surplus population speaks volumes of their priorities and organizational efficiency. What worth can their research possibly have if such basic activities prove impossible for them?
You fail to understand how major aspects of a society are nowhere near as independent as you seem to believe. This is a sign of intellectual immaturity and youthful egoism, as you cannot see how ultimately every societal pursuit is intimiately related to form a culture.
I'm also kinda curious as to how much you know about the country anyway. You do know that India has weird things like highways, major cities, electricity and so on, right? This claim that they're somehow trapped two millenia in the past is pretty ignorant, even by the standards of Slashdot's usual brilliance about anything outside of the US' borders.
I have been to India. I have been in towns where electricty is off just as frequently as it is on. I have been to villages without ANY electricity. I have seen that most roads are certainly not paved, even in major cities. There are some highways, but it is not a comprehensive national system by any means. Highways in India are what we call roads in the US. Roads in India are any man-made attempt at surface equalization. Packed earth counts as a road. Gravel counts as a road. Even the World Bank indicates only 500km of highways in India are actualy more than two lanes.
I know people have this kneejerk reaction to assume anything coming out of other countries has to be some affront or threat to Our Way Of Life that must be put down as much as possible, but things have been getting more infantile than usual these days. "Oh, but nothing they do matters, because they're not us yet!"
Why don't you go ask the starving children, dozens of whom will come to greet you the moment you step foot in that country, if that research means anything to them. I have no doubt that perhaps some interesting research goes on in India, but clearly there is disconnect between the ultimate goal of research, ie building a greater civilization, and the research that is currently taking place. This has nothing to do with India as a whole, as this research is certainly benefiting several hundred million people there. It is those people in fact I am referring to. The intellectual elite of that nation who have had the educational opportunity to become researchers, should instead focus on their immediate nation. Researching obscure technologies is a luxury for advanced civilizations, which comparitively, India is not.
Research for the sake of research is a modern sickness.
Also, America is even behind 3rd world countries like India & China in terms of science research papers when looked at on a per-capita-wealth basis (numbers of papers per unit of wealth per country). Note on the graph how much to the right America is when compared to, say, India. India publishes more peer-reviewed science papers more capita wealth than does America.
Until India is able to pave their roads to a reasonable extent AT LEAST consistent with the Roman Empire of approximately 2000 years ago, then we can talk.
So what if India has more papers per unit of wealth (whatever that means), they dont even have enough wealth to pave their roads! This entire planet is rock. They can't find a million unemployed people and have them start digging?
These apes have not been 'discovered', they have simply been newly categorised. The idea that they have never been seen before is a nice idea but nonsense.
Did this AC read the fucking article? No, because even there it mentions they have photographs from the 1890's, when the region was part of the Belgian Congo.
I'm sorry, but your ( and my ) unrelenting consumption is killing off wildlife apace. Don't let stories like this one make you think otherwise
How is "consumption" affecting the Congo? What DO they export? Nothing. I don't think the problem in Africa is overconsumption.
Macs were "Win3.11 with an attitude" abominations and no other alternative to the evil empire existed.
OS/2 was far more of an alternative than Next ever was.
Shows that will never make it to other countries. That draws younger viewers away, because hit-TV-shows like CSI, 24, Sex and the City, Ally McBeal, King of Queens,...
Do they show the "unedited" version of Sex and the City in Germany?
Just curios
Sorry, liar -- the vast majority of people were arrested during the convention itself, not during the Critical Mass parade. By the way, Critical Mass does the same thing one Friday EACH MONTH -- the police have encouraged them.
It is not at all the same thing, it is never anywhere NEAR that many people, and it usually is restricted to parks. Trying to suggest Prospect Park should be closed to vehicular traffic all the time is a worthy goal. Its a park. There is no reason to allow cars to drive through it.
Blocking major streets in Manhattan for extended periods of time is a totally different scenario. That is why they were arrested.
Hey, liar, Critical Mass has nothing to do with the subway -- they rode a group of bicycles through the streets.
Hey, you fucking idiot, do you know how to read and think logically? How is some old woman in a wheelchair supposed to take the subway? Hmm? Are YOU going to carry her down the stairs and then back up again? No? I didn't think so. No, if 5000 bicycles are blocking the street, what the fuck is she supposed to do?
Question -- if they were legally arresting people -- why didn't they tell them what they were charged with? Why didn't they let them call lawyers for over 24 hours?
The police are allowed to hold anyone for up to 24 hours. Sorry, that's the way it works. You don't have a right to a lawyer until you are charged with a crime. That 24 hours is to allow the investigation procedure to work. I guess you have never had a run in with the law. Good for you.
I've lived here for 20 years.
You might be a "New York City resident" but you are a bare-faced liar and I call you on it.
Yeah, I sure am lying. I am not the one citing 2600 is a source on this protest. Also, there was no video of this cop driving into the crowd. That is an absolute lie. Do you think this would be a matter of debate if such a video existed? Why isn't THAT video on the internet? Especially when the video of the guy kicking the shit out of the cop was all over the news? Further, even if what you say is true, is that justification for a thug to start kicking a man on the ground, in the head several times?
No, I think you are justifying barbaric behavior with fiction.
Yeah, do you socialize with these people?
Many of these people ARE self described communists. I fucking talk to them on a regular basis. I see their communist literature. I listen to their diatribes against capitalism almost daily.
The Communist Party was out in force during the protests in Chelsea. I have the fliers and newspapers to prove it.
Granted, these people probably are communists more along the lines of Jean-Paul Sartre than Josef Stalin, but so what?
Also, by the way, I don't give a fuck about your family. Your post smacks of ignorance (especially the graffitti). Do you see it? No. Does your family tell you about it? Apparently not. So why tell me?
(There are also reports of non-violent, LICENSED protesters being jailed for three days, then never charged with anything, just to keep them off the street while the RNC was in town. (And people who were just walking to the corner grocery store getting caught up and locked up along with them.) Which is illegal, but is something it looks like we're going to have to get used to.)
This is complete utter bullshit. The majority of arrests were of the bicycle brigade which WAS blocking streets and making it difficult for many old and infirm people to get home. Our old subway system doesn't have elevators in most stations, so people who can't use stairs are stuck riding the bus or taking taxis. Is it fair to force some old lady to sit in a bus for an hour because some communist students can't figure out how to persuade people in more rational fahions than blocking streets?
The other arrests occurred after police officers were attacked, one of whom is going to be seriously fucked up for the rest of his life. There is ample video footage of surround protestors doing NOTHING to stop the perpetrater of that crime from nearly kicking the cop to death, and many encouraged it.
Thankfully, I am not in a position of power because people like that would be executed for failing to act as a responsible citizen. It is a basic staple of civilized society to come to the aid of your fellow citizens.
None of those protestors would have been arrested if they stopped the violence and informed police who the criminal was.
And the usual random assortment of graffiti, vandalism, and silliness on both sides. Which is almost certainly just drunk partisan college student asshats.
Another non-NY resident talking about shit he doesn't know about.
The graffitti is EVERYWHERE. It is much more coordinated than random acts of spray painting. People use stencils, custom graphics are added to subway advertising, and fliers are applied to private property. This is all in addition to the regular bullshit involving markers and spraypaint.
Lists of names don't kill people. People kill people. With guns and lists of names. Why do you want to outlaw the lists of names?
I agree with your license plan. All protestors in the future must be licensed, and their names, telephone numbers, home address, and place of employment must be published on a city website.
What did these stuffed shirt Red Staters expect, showing up in the toughest Democrat constituency in America with dazzled stares?
Being a New York City resident, I can tell you that New York is far less democratic than probably all of the top 100 cities. There are some places, like Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, New Haven, Bridgeport, Washington, DC, and Philadelphia where there are NO republicans on the city council and they haven't had a republican mayor since before the depression.
New York has many, many districts that are strongly republican, such as large parts of Brooklyn, all of Staten Island and most of Queens. We haven't had a Democrat mayor since 1993, probably when you were still in grade school.
Further, I can tell you that the vast majority of protestors were not city residents. Most were students from all over the country, indoctrinated by communist teachers at surrounding universities. Most New York residents who had the opportunity LEFT the city to avoid the mayhem. The rest have jobs that make it a little difficult to go on a rampage on city streets.
I unfortunately did not leave, but one thing I can also tell you, as I chose to ride my bike during these times as it is the quickest way around during disasters, 90% of the protestors were White and between 18 and 30. These protests were nothing more than a generation educated by communists looking for something to protest.
We don't have any oppressive laws anymore, so instead the only think left to do is villify people. Its not the law that's bad, but the people in government.
Even more, I can't think of any cases where prominant Republican party members (at least those not already surrounded by Secret Service agents) were targets for assassination.
Tell that to some of the victims of the protests during the RNC.
What about the riot groups that have broken into RNC campaign centers throughout the country?
I think this post really highlights the tendency of people to believe their own personal views are virtuous while opposing views are virtuous.
that should be non-virtuous, or wicked, or whatever... after work beer. hmm.
I think this post really highlights the tendency of people to believe their own personal views are virtuous while opposing views are virtuous. The number of attacks on abortion providers pails in comparison to the general mayhem caused by liberal protestors in the past year alone. The reason is simple, most of the vocal liberals are nothing more than communists, and as such support violent resistence.
Now, I personally am not saying violence is in and of itself wrong, as political change without it is , for the most part, an extreme rarity. That said, to suggest that liberals have not intimidated conservatives EVER smacks of sheer ignorance.
Unfortunately, it is important to note that your attitude is what ultimately leads to civil war. When both sides fail to see that their opponents are also trying to find the best solution for the future, free debate becomes impossible. When we can no longer rationally debate governmental policy, the only alternative left is violence.
In a way, your attitude is what ultimately leads to the violence you believe your opponents advocate. See you at the front.
The K6 233 was the fastest processor on the block for a 3 months or so in 1997, before the Pentium II was released. It even beat the Pentium Pro 233 at the time. 2 years later, they had the Athlon.
An interesting theory, but I believe most psychiatrists would suggest dopamine is associated with the reward/punishment feedback loop in the brain.
Would you volunteer to be in that 10 million? How about those you care about? How about 1000 Americans?
I think you missed the point here. life is struggle.
Animals don't volunteer to committ suicide for some higher purpose, nor should humans. The natural way is to fight for survival. What this means is I would kill you to survive. Because I am American, of course I am going to be loyal to my own people. Would you suggest a wolf decide to kill his own pack for all of wolfdom? No, he is going to kill the competing pack.
However, since you are apparently NOT American, I would have no problems sterilizing your entire population so that in a generation your people and culture will cease to exist.
The hysteria generated by ~2000 deaths in the US on Sept 11 compared with the indifference shown over 3 million tutsis deaths, or ferver for a war with 10,000 iraqi civilian casualties, speaks better than any words could about how the western world values human life in other cultures.
What the fuck fantasy world are you living in? I've got news for you, the vast majority of people in this world have about as much concern for Americans as Americans do for all those other people. The reality is we have a million feel good peacenik groups complaining about the suffering in some god foresaken shithold marching on the streets every day. Are the people of Japan donating hundreds of millions of dollars to feed the starving Ethiopians? Do they even have a Sally Struthers in Japan? Are the people of France donating their free time and resources to rebuild Middle Germany? Or the rest of Eastern Europe?
Americans have consistently shown greater concern for the world in the 20th century than any other nation. If anything, this has been a mistake. Would Africa be so tremendously overpopulated if snivelling Americans didn't bother feeding all those people?
No, we need a new Sally Struthers.. who does nothing but hand out sterilization and abortion pills like candy. Put it in the food supply, the fertilizer! let it rain from the clouds far above!
3 million tutsis were slaughtered in a mere three months with nothing more than machetes.
3 million people die every single day for no reason what so ever.
Who gives a fuck about 3 million people? There are 6 billion on this planet, and thats looking to double every 25 years. What is the bigger problem here? 3 million deaths? Or 100 billion new lives?
I so tired of the ridiculous value judgement that death = bad, life = good.
We are on the verge of destroying the world. Its not because of some vast conspiracy. Its because everyone on this planet wants to keep fucking and having lots of children. Maybe if 10 million died every day, we could prevent this planet from turning into one gigantic apartment complex.
Well, you have to admit, its a rarity you can't/don't want to bike to work.
Does it make sense to buy a motorized bicycle for this purpose? Especially when you can take the subway/bus/cab?
I guess if you are in the middle of nowhere, where truly you hae to own your own transportation, this could work. But in the vast majority of places, there ARE other options that are more expensive than biking, and nowhere near as fast (during typical rush hour conditions)... but thats why we bike.
By your logic then, its forever going to be 95% windows 4% mac, and 1% unix.
We have been hearing about Linux on the desktop for six years now. There are very specific reasons people don't use it, X-windows being one of those big reasons. The goal here is to make a fully functional OS that will appeal to the average user, when the time comes that OS software is too expensive. We are rapidly approaching the $100 computer. Maybe this OS can succeed in that market.
Noting like the one liner comments thrown out there as quickly as possible purely to get some free mode points getting thrown away.
.54 release, AND its making significant, rapid progress. Shouldn't you be saying something encouraging like "THANKS GUYS FOR BRING An OPEN SOURCE, X-WINDOWS FREE OS TO THE DESKTOP!"
Gee, just because anyone aims to do anything doesn't mean they will actually succeed! Its not new unless it is a 100% finished product!
Come on. Its a milestone release. Quit functional for a
Or maybe "Keep up the good work"
Sheesh, no wonder people don't finish their work, pessimists get you down!
Actually, no I am not referring to isomers. I don't give a fuck about the structure of the molecule. What makes ozone unique from regular O2? Not the structure, but the fact it is unstable.
There are over 10 different isotopes of oxygen. Are you trying to tell me that no matter what other element one of those ten isotopes bonds to, the end result is that form of oxygen is exactly the same, ie there is no difference in the amount of time it takes for that particular molecule to degrade? This is one of the FEW differences isotopes have between each other.
I could easily see how different isotopes will produce forms of ozone that have differing levels of stability. Do you even know what an isotope is? Or how molecules form?
Further, I wasn't referring to ozone specifically. You said that all molecules are identical, if they are composed of the same quantity of atoms. Not only is that false from the isomer standpoint which you casually mentioned, but it is wrong given the number of neutrons frequently varies, especially in places like the stratosphere that are constantly bombared by solar radiation!!!
There no difference. Identical molecules are not distinguishable. They have no difference in properties.
Apparently, in your high school chemistry class they didn't teach you about isotopes.