Well with the battery glued in on all the models YOU WILL UPGRADE whether you like it or not.
I guess Apple is good at innovating with this wonderful idea. Thanks Apple. Grrrr
It's not like Apple made the battery part of the outer-shell of the phone.
Jeezus, this is supposed to be a TECH site, and people are scared of a little GLUE??? Hand in your Geek Cards immediately!!!
Also, Apple has STOPPED gluing batteries in; so although you do have disassemble the phone to replace the battery in an iPhone, you no longer have to fight the glue demons. There are 3 adhesive strips; but they aren't as mean as glue.
But, if you're squeamish about messing around inside of a device like a smartphone, Apple and several third-party vendors will be happy to do that battery replacement for you for about $100 (including the battery).
>Apple wasn't even the first to delete the ancient 3.5 mm jack.
True. A few Android phones have done it, usually following rumors Apple was going to. 10-15 years ago many feature phones required an adapter to connect headphones. Nintendo tried it too, with the GBA SP. And every time it's gone about the same way: consumers quickly lost or broke the adapter if one was included, assumed you simply couldn't use headphones with the product if one wasn't, and almost universally hated the missing feature.
They didn't hate the adapter. They hated the entire PHONE.
Could somebody please tell me why the h*** a phone needs a barometer? Are people really going to be trying to tell the weather on the phone? Downloading the latest barometric pressure data for the nearest airport so they can crudely approximate their altitude?
It seems like a useless novelty toy in search of a reason for existing, and in exchange for that useless novelty, they removed something that a decent percentage of users use every day.
Honestly, I don't know what smartphones use the baro sensor for; but they all (or mostly) seem to have them. And considering that they are a bit of a pain to use, there must be a legit reason for the added cost and development effort.
I just got an Android phone as my work phone, and I've started using it. I don't like it as much as I like my iPhone, but I can plug headphones into it. For people who do music editing in the field, watch TV shows during lunch, and various other activities, being able to have one set of headphones that seamlessly connects to multiple devices matters. A lot.
And if you do music editing in the field, watch TV shows during lunch, and various other activities, Apple has INCLUDED a short little adapter cable; so you plug in your phones just like always. And if you are worrying about losing it, additional adapters are only $9; so you can have a spare or two lying around.
And if and when the Android vendors eventually follow Apple's lead and remove the headphone jack, I will have long since upgraded my MacBook Pro to a USB-C version, and I'll still be able to use a single pair of headphones with my Mac and an Android phone, whereas that will still not be true for my Mac and my iPhone.
On this, we sort of agree. I would be very surprised if Apple doesn't switch to USB-C on the next iteration of iPhones. I believe the current devices were already in "Standards Testing" (so the hardware design had to be frozen), and gazillions of Lightning connectors were already on order, by the time that Apple even thought of changing the iPhone over to USB-C; and so this iteration just missed the boat. Happens.
For a company that supposedly designs their ecosystem to be highly interconnected, IMO, Apple screwed this up massively. They need to either ditch the stupid Lightning connector in favor of USB-C or they need to put a Lightning connector on Macs, and you can probably tell which one I think is a better idea from the way I worded that....
As I said, this was just the result of conflicting development cycles. It will work itself out. Apple is not dumb.
You don't care about the warranty on a $1k purchase? Liar. Or idiot.
On a disposable device like a phone? Not at all. Hell when my last phone died on me I just threw it away and used another smartphone I had laying around for the 3 months until my contract expired. If I wanted it fixed I could have paid some Chinese dude $50 to fix it for me.
Or are you saying that you don't get a new phone every time it comes out? If so you really are a very fake Tim Cook.
Nope. I am still rockin' a 6 Plus (with a cracked screen, no less! My prior (and first) iPhone was a 4s. I am waiting to see if the new phones are worth upgrading-to. So, it will either be this version, or the next, before I upgrade again.
BTW, my laptop is a 2012 non-retina MBP.
But if I had Tim Cook's money, I'd be on that Upgrade train, you betcha!
all we have to do now is sit back and wait to hear that apple tracked down his phone id, then his phone, and bricked it for carrying out "unsanctioned" modifications...
If Apple did choose to "attack" a customer like this (who knows damn well they're voiding their warranty), it will be interesting to sit back and watch the backlash from Apples own engineering and design staff, who likely share much of this same maker/hobbyist/hardware hacker mentality.
Gain: tons of Youtube views and bragging rights for proving Apple was lying
But Apple WASN'T lying, you tool.!
He simply traded the barometric sensor and water resistance for the ability to avoid taping an INCLUDED adapter to his favorite headphones. Even if he wanted to have the choice of multiple headphones/earbuds for different occasions, an additional adapter or two would take care of that, too.
You can buy a LOT of $9 Lightning to 3.5 mm adapters for what this guy spent,must so he could THINK he was going neener neener neener to Apple.
Yeah. That is one logical and practical thinker, there. Apple should snap him up before the competition does!
The timing of this Slashdot "News" article is quite well orchestrated. Just like the FUD Article regarding Apple's alleged "Production Issues" also seen today on Slashdot.
I realise the above post is flamebait, but I wish these posts would stop using the word Android. The vulnerability in this case has nothing to do with Android.
It's an exploit targeting ARM hardware/firmware - nothing to do with Android. When you exploit the hardware of a platform, it doesn't matter what OS the platform is running - it is no longer secure. The same would be true of iOS or any other OS running on this Qualcom chipset.
It's just a happenstance that most open devices run Android. if iOS was allowed to be run on third party hardware, many of these same exploits would apply.
Apple run Apple's ARM SoCs. Yet this vulnerability doesn't exist. That's because Apple knows how to develop an ARM SoC, and Qualcomm evidently, er, doesn't.
And ALL devices that run Qualcomm's ARM SoCs run Android.
when did the linux kernel ever make a decision for the user as to what file system to use. distro maintainers decide that, and that can be overriden at install time.
And therein lies one of the many reasons it will NEVER be the Year of the Linux Desktop.
Actually, in addition to the "Recovery Partition", OSX/macOS has had the ability for quite some time to automagically download and install the ORIGINAL OS for your particular Mac, and/or to create a USB Installer. No "Install discs", "Recovery Partition", or TM backup needed.
"Download and install" is useless when a [nongeek friend's] computer death preempts creation of these low-quality home-made restore disks. Little beats pressed read-only DVDs (except for old video game Rom cartwridges if they had some multigigabyte equivalent in 2017 --hard drives will fail) I want 1998 back, when my physical media was guaranteed with a new machine and included a retail copy of the OS. Writable media and OEM-crippled Windows versions ruined it for everyone.
Internet recovery doesn't require anything but internet access.
So, BTW, Mr. smarty-pants Communist, riddle me this: If Lisas and Macs are such separate computers, then what, pray tell, are Macintosh XLs, moron? I've used those, too. And yes, they were a real product.
By my comment, I was just illustrating that I had been using Macs since the beginning.
BTW, and FYI, I indeed did use actual Lisas for more than a year before that, starting in 1983. They booted LisaOS, and ran Lisa 7/7, the world's first integrated office package. And then, when my employer converted our Lisas into Mac XLs (but without the "square pixel" hardware mod), I used those Lisas cum Macs for awhile before (and after) we bought our first real Mac 128 in mid-1984.
So now, I think YOU are the one who should be wearing the dunce cap...
This must be the thread where Apple is paying their shills the most for their word count.
*checking*
Yep: apple.slashdot.org. How much does Apple pay for this subdomain?
Um, considering their well-deserved reputation as one of the prime movers and shakers in consumer high tech, and their undeniable ability to generate "Clicks" on Slashdot, I would imagine that Slashdot's Editorial Board came up with the idea to add apple.slashdot.org all on their own.
Not to mention the fact that almost all hosting services allow the creation of unlimited virtual subdomains for free... Or maybe you've never registered a domain and created a website...
You really need to up your meds. That irrational Apple Hate is likely a symptom of uncontrolled Paranoid Schizophrenia.
And Apple indifference is built on the lukewarm wonderment of indifferent people who ponder "Isn't that fruity gadget company based on 'Sharper Image' style marketing dead yet?"
That doesn't even make syntactic sense as a sentence, plus it comes off as nothing more than sour grapes, considering Apple's financial position and overall sales.
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Apple is just a fashion company. Nothing more.
I dare you to tell that to their Development Teams in person.
Well with the battery glued in on all the models YOU WILL UPGRADE whether you like it or not.
I guess Apple is good at innovating with this wonderful idea. Thanks Apple. Grrrr
It's not like Apple made the battery part of the outer-shell of the phone.
Jeezus, this is supposed to be a TECH site, and people are scared of a little GLUE??? Hand in your Geek Cards immediately!!!
Also, Apple has STOPPED gluing batteries in; so although you do have disassemble the phone to replace the battery in an iPhone, you no longer have to fight the glue demons. There are 3 adhesive strips; but they aren't as mean as glue.
But, if you're squeamish about messing around inside of a device like a smartphone, Apple and several third-party vendors will be happy to do that battery replacement for you for about $100 (including the battery).
I froze my credit with all 3 agencies without paying anyone. I think there's an Indiana requirement.
Really? That's interesting!
Not to reply to my own post; but...
GP is right! If you live in Indiana, Freezing/Thawing your Credit is FREE by law!
http://www.in.gov/attorneygene...
I froze my credit with all 3 agencies without paying anyone. I think there's an Indiana requirement.
Really? That's interesting!
>Apple wasn't even the first to delete the ancient 3.5 mm jack.
True. A few Android phones have done it, usually following rumors Apple was going to. 10-15 years ago many feature phones required an adapter to connect headphones. Nintendo tried it too, with the GBA SP. And every time it's gone about the same way: consumers quickly lost or broke the adapter if one was included, assumed you simply couldn't use headphones with the product if one wasn't, and almost universally hated the missing feature.
They didn't hate the adapter. They hated the entire PHONE.
Could somebody please tell me why the h*** a phone needs a barometer? Are people really going to be trying to tell the weather on the phone? Downloading the latest barometric pressure data for the nearest airport so they can crudely approximate their altitude?
It seems like a useless novelty toy in search of a reason for existing, and in exchange for that useless novelty, they removed something that a decent percentage of users use every day.
Honestly, I don't know what smartphones use the baro sensor for; but they all (or mostly) seem to have them. And considering that they are a bit of a pain to use, there must be a legit reason for the added cost and development effort.
I just got an Android phone as my work phone, and I've started using it. I don't like it as much as I like my iPhone, but I can plug headphones into it. For people who do music editing in the field, watch TV shows during lunch, and various other activities, being able to have one set of headphones that seamlessly connects to multiple devices matters. A lot.
And if you do music editing in the field, watch TV shows during lunch, and various other activities, Apple has INCLUDED a short little adapter cable; so you plug in your phones just like always. And if you are worrying about losing it, additional adapters are only $9; so you can have a spare or two lying around.
And if and when the Android vendors eventually follow Apple's lead and remove the headphone jack, I will have long since upgraded my MacBook Pro to a USB-C version, and I'll still be able to use a single pair of headphones with my Mac and an Android phone, whereas that will still not be true for my Mac and my iPhone.
On this, we sort of agree. I would be very surprised if Apple doesn't switch to USB-C on the next iteration of iPhones. I believe the current devices were already in "Standards Testing" (so the hardware design had to be frozen), and gazillions of Lightning connectors were already on order, by the time that Apple even thought of changing the iPhone over to USB-C; and so this iteration just missed the boat. Happens.
For a company that supposedly designs their ecosystem to be highly interconnected, IMO, Apple screwed this up massively. They need to either ditch the stupid Lightning connector in favor of USB-C or they need to put a Lightning connector on Macs, and you can probably tell which one I think is a better idea from the way I worded that....
As I said, this was just the result of conflicting development cycles. It will work itself out. Apple is not dumb.
You don't care about the warranty on a $1k purchase? Liar. Or idiot.
On a disposable device like a phone? Not at all. Hell when my last phone died on me I just threw it away and used another smartphone I had laying around for the 3 months until my contract expired. If I wanted it fixed I could have paid some Chinese dude $50 to fix it for me.
Or are you saying that you don't get a new phone every time it comes out? If so you really are a very fake Tim Cook.
Nope. I am still rockin' a 6 Plus (with a cracked screen, no less! My prior (and first) iPhone was a 4s. I am waiting to see if the new phones are worth upgrading-to. So, it will either be this version, or the next, before I upgrade again.
BTW, my laptop is a 2012 non-retina MBP.
But if I had Tim Cook's money, I'd be on that Upgrade train, you betcha!
If you're Fake Tim Cook, are you fake gay? What does it imply? You're a straight metrosexual?
No.
There is no such thing as a Straight Metrosexual.
Spending lots of bucks to get what you have for free in every other contemporary phone.
Um, not EVERY...
Apple wasn't even the first to delete the ancient 3.5 mm jack.
all we have to do now is sit back and wait to hear that apple tracked down his phone id, then his phone, and bricked it for carrying out "unsanctioned" modifications...
If Apple did choose to "attack" a customer like this (who knows damn well they're voiding their warranty), it will be interesting to sit back and watch the backlash from Apples own engineering and design staff, who likely share much of this same maker/hobbyist/hardware hacker mentality.
Creative minds, make creative products.
You're an idiot.
Gain: tons of Youtube views and bragging rights for proving Apple was lying
But Apple WASN'T lying, you tool.!
He simply traded the barometric sensor and water resistance for the ability to avoid taping an INCLUDED adapter to his favorite headphones. Even if he wanted to have the choice of multiple headphones/earbuds for different occasions, an additional adapter or two would take care of that, too.
You can buy a LOT of $9 Lightning to 3.5 mm adapters for what this guy spent,must so he could THINK he was going neener neener neener to Apple.
Yeah. That is one logical and practical thinker, there. Apple should snap him up before the competition does!
Lose: Any warranty whatsoever
Who the fuck cares
Gain: Ability to use a 5$ headphone
Also gain: ability to use $900 headphone.
So what's your point?
You don't care about the warranty on a $1k purchase?
Liar. Or idiot.
Lose: Any warranty whatsoever, ability to listen while charging, lots o hard-earned cash
Gain: Ability to use a 5$ headphone
You forgot:
Barometric sensor
Water Resistance
Let's see how Huawei (the name just trips-off the tongue!) fares against Apple in about a month, after the new iPhone models are debuted...
https://www.apple.com/apple-ev...
The timing of this Slashdot "News" article is quite well orchestrated. Just like the FUD Article regarding Apple's alleged "Production Issues" also seen today on Slashdot.
If this isn't a textbook example of spreading FUD, I don't know what is!
Thanks, Samsung!
Sure hope the BATTERIES in the Galaxy Note 8 DON'T EXPLODE!!!!\
Back atcha!
I really need to start looking at who I'm replying to before submitting comments. That's twice this week I've replied to you without realizing it! ;)
LOL!
No worries! I do the same thing almost ALL the time... ;-) ...or does that mean that you would IGNORE my idiocy if you saw it was me? ;-P
And ALL devices that run Qualcomm's ARM SoCs run Android.
Which routers run Android? I was gonna ask which TVs, but there are actually some that do...
Ok, most Routers run Embedded Linux, I assume.
Didn't give that enough thought, obviously! ;-)
Android is so much more secure than iPhone!
NOT! /Borat
I realise the above post is flamebait, but I wish these posts would stop using the word Android.
The vulnerability in this case has nothing to do with Android.
It's an exploit targeting ARM hardware/firmware - nothing to do with Android.
When you exploit the hardware of a platform, it doesn't matter what OS the platform is running - it is no longer secure.
The same would be true of iOS or any other OS running on this Qualcom chipset.
It's just a happenstance that most open devices run Android.
if iOS was allowed to be run on third party hardware, many of these same exploits would apply.
Apple run Apple's ARM SoCs. Yet this vulnerability doesn't exist. That's because Apple knows how to develop an ARM SoC, and Qualcomm evidently, er, doesn't.
And ALL devices that run Qualcomm's ARM SoCs run Android.
when did the linux kernel ever make a decision for the user as to what file system to use. distro maintainers decide that, and that can be overriden at install time.
And therein lies one of the many reasons it will NEVER be the Year of the Linux Desktop.
Actually, in addition to the "Recovery Partition", OSX/macOS has had the ability for quite some time to automagically download and install the ORIGINAL OS for your particular Mac, and/or to create a USB Installer. No "Install discs", "Recovery Partition", or TM backup needed.
"Download and install" is useless when a [nongeek friend's] computer death preempts creation of these low-quality home-made restore disks. Little beats pressed read-only DVDs (except for old video game Rom cartwridges if they had some multigigabyte equivalent in 2017 --hard drives will fail)
I want 1998 back, when my physical media was guaranteed with a new machine and included a retail copy of the OS. Writable media and OEM-crippled Windows versions ruined it for everyone.
Internet recovery doesn't require anything but internet access.
Lisa and Mac are different computers, moron
You think I don't know that? Read it and weep...
So, BTW, Mr. smarty-pants Communist, riddle me this: If Lisas and Macs are such separate computers, then what, pray tell, are Macintosh XLs, moron? I've used those, too. And yes, they were a real product.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
By my comment, I was just illustrating that I had been using Macs since the beginning.
BTW, and FYI, I indeed did use actual Lisas for more than a year before that, starting in 1983. They booted LisaOS, and ran Lisa 7/7, the world's first integrated office package. And then, when my employer converted our Lisas into Mac XLs (but without the "square pixel" hardware mod), I used those Lisas cum Macs for awhile before (and after) we bought our first real Mac 128 in mid-1984.
So now, I think YOU are the one who should be wearing the dunce cap...
This must be the thread where Apple is paying their shills the most for their word count.
*checking*
Yep: apple.slashdot.org. How much does Apple pay for this subdomain?
Um, considering their well-deserved reputation as one of the prime movers and shakers in consumer high tech, and their undeniable ability to generate "Clicks" on Slashdot, I would imagine that Slashdot's Editorial Board came up with the idea to add apple.slashdot.org all on their own.
Not to mention the fact that almost all hosting services allow the creation of unlimited virtual subdomains for free... Or maybe you've never registered a domain and created a website...
You really need to up your meds. That irrational Apple Hate is likely a symptom of uncontrolled Paranoid Schizophrenia.
And Apple indifference is built on the lukewarm wonderment of indifferent people who ponder "Isn't that fruity gadget company based on 'Sharper Image' style marketing dead yet?"
That doesn't even make syntactic sense as a sentence, plus it comes off as nothing more than sour grapes, considering Apple's financial position and overall sales.
Nope. Definitely wouldn't want to know.
Well, the fact that you responded to something rhetorically asked of an AC, belies that claim.
LUL! I'd say try Edge but I don't hate you...
LOL!
Seriously, though. What IS it with Slashdot??? It certainly ISN'T the epitome of "new web technologies"; so WTF, over???