I wonder what the heck you're talking about the. While I would use Apple's phones and tablets, my employers have been issuing me Macbooks the last few years and I always use multiple monitors with no problem. Just plug it in. The settings UI for it couldn't be simpler, in my opinion.
Exactly.
Apple has supported multiple monitors clear back to 1984.
Thank you shilly. Always leave it to an apple shill to be full of bullshit.
Please show me where the bullshit is in my post.
1. Apple's latest mobile OS, iOS 12, DOES support iPhones back to the 5s.
2. The 5s and the Samsung S4 were both released in 2013.
3. Samsung ended Support for the S4 with Android Lollipop, in 2015.
4. Ergo, Apple's CONTINUING Support of the iPhone 5s is absolutely equivalent to Samsung supporting the S4 up through the current Android version, "Pie".
So, where, pray tell, is the Bullshit, Hater? It is now "Shilling" to point out IRREFUTABLE FACTS on Slashdot?
Apple are a service company too. They make 1/4 of their revenue from their App Store, at a much higher profit margin than any hardware they sell.
They make more profit from app store purchases than they do from iPhone purchases. I'm pretty sure they would care if you installed Android on an iPhone, bypassing their store.
Well, since it is all speculation; who really cares?
1. Hire only the best staff. On merit who can do the work they got hired for without needing extra support in the company for years.
2. Have designers in a company who can work on new products that are "new".
3. Have engineers hired on merit who can do the advanced work and testing.
4. Ensure the new products work and make a profit.
5. Test the products to make sure they work in the real world under real conditions.
6. Have testing done and fix problems well before paying consumers find and report the same problems.
7. Always have staff learning new skills and hire new staff on merit to bring in new skills.
Any average company can create a product for existing market conditions. A few brands can take exisiting tech and bring in new advanced features.
A few of the very best brands every generation can create a new market that never existed.
Hire the best staff to ensure a brand can make its own new markets every generation that define the use of tech for that generation.
Its all in having the best staff and best workers. Find the best and support them. People who arrive on time. Who work hard. Who understand new problems and can work on new projects.
Wow! Sounds like an accurate description of Apple's policies and practices!
These pop on/. every week. They never say anything new.
Airpods have been copied to death. The Apple Watch is the most successful smart watch out there. Solid seeming rumors point to Apple researching foldable phones, air gesture controls, and AR glasses. But none of these are ever mentioned in these useless articles. All they ever do is bemoan how things "used to be better" under Steve Jobs. At this point any points about what Jobs did better have been made a dozen times over. But no, we need to see this same damned article every week till the end of time.
Be honest Apple is using smoke and mirrors to keep investors these days. All of their products have either reached peak growth or have long since lost any real growth. Their recent products prove they have nothing left to inspire and in fact why did the new Macbook Air or Mac Mini take so long to do? There is nothing about them that is a engineering marvel. They are refreshes that should have been done years ago. This is not the revolutionary company of Steve Jobs.
I love fanboys who are fanboys for technical reasons.
Then you should LOVE me.
I frankly don't care much for the vast majority of Apple's ads and videos. I think they actually do a pretty piss-poor job of describing the MERITS of Apple Products and the Apple "Ecosystem" (boy do I hate that term!). But, in most cases, those advantages DO exist, for tech-savvy users like me, those advantages keep me happy, and keep me coming back for more, decade after decade, even though I have plenty of experience on the Dark Side (Windows), and actually develop Windows business software for a living...
By the way, your assertion that the only thing Apple ever invented was FireWire is laughable. The REAL list is as long as a typical NBA player is tall. Many of their most important inventions, like ZeroConf and Bonjour, to name a couple that come to mind, they've even given back to the community at large.
Apple uses policies that prevent users from side-loading apps or using other app stores
Time for this meme to die. It hasn't really been true since iOS 8.0. Do some research on Cydia Impactor, and the vibrant iOS Open Source community. And no, it isn't all just Swift stuff......And besides, considering the Googolplex of Android Malware articles (almost all of them even involving the supposedly-curated Google Play Store), I am more than happy with the Googolplex of CLEAN Apps I can DL WITHOUT WORRY from the iOS App Store, thankyouverymuch!
also somehow they manage to sell 3 year old devices that will have support dropped in like 1 year. that should be illegal (they do this in asia. apple actually has mid tier phones and has had for years. they just keep selling the old models - and this is new in box models through operators, a lot of it in asia. no refurbs. but new in box phones of 3 year old phones. thats their 200 dollar segment). apple sells them and doesn't give a fuck that the sw support is due to be dropped in just a little while.
So glad you can accurately predict the future!
When it comes to supporting older devices, especially Mobile ones, NOBODY can compare Apple negatively to ANYONE else.
Period.
iOS12 (just released about a month ago), supports iPhones back to the 5s.
That's equivalent to Samsung still Supporting the Galaxy S4 with OS and Security Updates(!!!)
According to the link below, the last OS Update for the S4 was Android LOLLIPOP, in November, 2015.
Yea, it was a logic board failure. I went to a third party for a logic board repair, but they were unsuccessful. I don't remember how much I got for all the parts, but it was enough to buy an almost-new 2017 MacBook Air with zero money out of pocket. I'm still using that Air as my main computer.
Well, so it sounds like Apple wasn't trying to unnecessarily "pump up" the repair. That's nice to know.
That's one good thing about Apple; their stuff gets really good "used" prices. Great that you were even able to get that for the parts!
So, all in all, sounds like you were able to turn lemons into Applejuice!
Except that all those get ground up for recycling too...
Did you actually think that iPhones were the only old cell phones being recycled? That's so silly it's sorta adorable in a child/santa claus kinda way.
No, I don't think they are being so CAREFULLY recycled. Apple's robot is purpose built to DECONSTRUCT iPhones (and iPads, I think) and does useful stuff like saving the screws, rather than just grinding everything up into dust, like all those "we recycle your used compute-ors" guys. I think they grind the chassis into dust; but that's kind of the best you can do; and since they are now building new production units with 100% recycled aluminum (likely primarily from this recycling robot), rather than just selling the aluminum-dust to the scrap metal dealer, it's pretty clear to see the direct benefits, both to Apple, and the planet.
Apple will price any older model repair far beyond the value of the device, making the service uneconomical.
Prove it, or STFU.
Anecdotally Apple quoted $950 to repair my 2015 MacBook Pro, but they would "recycle" it for free. Not obsolete, but beyond its retail value in working condition. I parted it out.
No doubt, since Apple does pretty much exclusively "module-level" (or board-level) repair (like MANY companies), they no doubt determined that your repair would require a main logic board replacement, and that's unfortunately about right for that, regardless of the OEM.
Parting it out was probably a good idea, and likely would have gotten you most of the way to the purchase of a replacement MacBook Pro, if not with money to spare...
Actually, no. They've always had enough parts. Do you really believe they suddenly found a long lost trove of ancient Apple parts?
No, I don't.
Those models were about to automatically go on "Vintage" status based solely on their age, and I think Apple took a look at their global parts inventory and said "We can keep supporting these on repair for now." So we are, for the time being, "deferring" their "Vintage" Status until it becomes impractical due to lack of parts-inventory.
They have expressly said "While supplies last. We aren't making anymore parts for these (probably really couldn't for some of them. Molds wear out, components become unavailable, etc.). When they're gone, they're gone."
So, it is a much more consumer-friendly decision than just scrapping the parts and taking a tax-writeoff, which is what a LOT of companies do.
Slashdot Mirror
I wonder what the heck you're talking about the.
While I would use Apple's phones and tablets, my employers have been issuing me Macbooks the last few years and I always use multiple monitors with no problem. Just plug it in. The settings UI for it couldn't be simpler, in my opinion.
Exactly.
Apple has supported multiple monitors clear back to 1984.
Typical lying AC.
All Hail Google, for deigning to support a "legacy" phone a a whole THREE YEARS after it stopped being sold!
Meanwhile, iOS 12 not only FULLY SUPPORTS iPhones back to the 5c, but also actually significantly IMPROVES the performance of older iPhones.
But Google somehow deserves Slashdot's praise for their "effort".
You'd better watch out;
You'd better not cry;
You'd better be good;
I'm tellin' you why.
Microsoft is comin', to town!
The future is foretold in TFA:
"The WSL allows Windows 10 to run various GNU/Linux distros inside Windows as Microsoft Store Apps..."
Embrace, Extend...
You know the rest.
I see we're well into the "extend" phase now.
Exactly!
WOW 847 project. Out of how many GitHub projects?
Fucking idiot shill selectively left that info out.
But that is a lot of Fart apps
Show me the fart apps in those.
And if I had said ANY number, you would have had the same reaction.
Now, STFU, ANONYMOUS COWARD!!!
Wow!! Sounds like you are one of apple "special little people"
And it sounds like you are one of Slashdot's Anonymous little COWARDS.
Log in and fight like a man, or STFU!
apple has a long history of lying, cheating and stealing.
Keep try to spread bullshit about apple while you are a Hater for everyone else.
What bullshit was I spreading?
I simply linked to an article about how incredibly fast the new iPad Pro is.
Show me the bullshit, or STFU, COWARD!!!
Thank you shilly.
Always leave it to an apple shill to be full of bullshit.
Please show me where the bullshit is in my post.
1. Apple's latest mobile OS, iOS 12, DOES support iPhones back to the 5s.
2. The 5s and the Samsung S4 were both released in 2013.
3. Samsung ended Support for the S4 with Android Lollipop, in 2015.
4. Ergo, Apple's CONTINUING Support of the iPhone 5s is absolutely equivalent to Samsung supporting the S4 up through the current Android version, "Pie".
So, where, pray tell, is the Bullshit, Hater? It is now "Shilling" to point out IRREFUTABLE FACTS on Slashdot?
Guess so.
Apple are a service company too. They make 1/4 of their revenue from their App Store, at a much higher profit margin than any hardware they sell.
They make more profit from app store purchases than they do from iPhone purchases. I'm pretty sure they would care if you installed Android on an iPhone, bypassing their store.
Well, since it is all speculation; who really cares?
the vibrant iOS Open Source community
You've got some private definition of "vibrant". Apple open source looks about as vibrant as code.google.com.
Bullshit.
This GitHub Repository shows 847 Projects.
https://github.com/dkhamsing/o...
And there are several more that are Swift-Specific.
1. Hire only the best staff. On merit who can do the work they got hired for without needing extra support in the company for years.
2. Have designers in a company who can work on new products that are "new".
3. Have engineers hired on merit who can do the advanced work and testing.
4. Ensure the new products work and make a profit.
5. Test the products to make sure they work in the real world under real conditions.
6. Have testing done and fix problems well before paying consumers find and report the same problems.
7. Always have staff learning new skills and hire new staff on merit to bring in new skills.
Any average company can create a product for existing market conditions. A few brands can take exisiting tech and bring in new advanced features.
A few of the very best brands every generation can create a new market that never existed.
Hire the best staff to ensure a brand can make its own new markets every generation that define the use of tech for that generation.
Its all in having the best staff and best workers. Find the best and support them. People who arrive on time. Who work hard. Who understand new problems and can work on new projects.
Wow! Sounds like an accurate description of Apple's policies and practices!
These pop on /. every week. They never say anything new.
Airpods have been copied to death. The Apple Watch is the most successful smart watch out there. Solid seeming rumors point to Apple researching foldable phones, air gesture controls, and AR glasses.
But none of these are ever mentioned in these useless articles. All they ever do is bemoan how things "used to be better" under Steve Jobs. At this point any points about what Jobs did better have been made a dozen times over. But no, we need to see this same damned article every week till the end of time.
MOD PARENT UP!!!
Tim Cook is the new Ballmer he hasnâ(TM)t brought anything to the table just a long list of underwhelming products
Underwhelming Products?
https://www.macrumors.com/2018...
Be honest Apple is using smoke and mirrors to keep investors these days. All of their products have either reached peak growth or have long since lost any real growth. Their recent products prove they have nothing left to inspire and in fact why did the new Macbook Air or Mac Mini take so long to do? There is nothing about them that is a engineering marvel. They are refreshes that should have been done years ago. This is not the revolutionary company of Steve Jobs.
You call THIS "Smoke and Mirrors"?
You call THIS "Not an Engineering Marvel"?
https://www.macrumors.com/2018...
Ohhh Kayyyyyy
Keep deluding yourself, Slashtard Hater.
Innovation on Apple stalled when Steve Jobs died. Now Apple is copying its own products over and over again.
The Ax series of SoCs ALONE belies your assertion.
And that's just ONE example.
I love fanboys who are fanboys for technical reasons.
Then you should LOVE me.
I frankly don't care much for the vast majority of Apple's ads and videos. I think they actually do a pretty piss-poor job of describing the MERITS of Apple Products and the Apple "Ecosystem" (boy do I hate that term!). But, in most cases, those advantages DO exist, for tech-savvy users like me, those advantages keep me happy, and keep me coming back for more, decade after decade, even though I have plenty of experience on the Dark Side (Windows), and actually develop Windows business software for a living...
By the way, your assertion that the only thing Apple ever invented was FireWire is laughable. The REAL list is as long as a typical NBA player is tall. Many of their most important inventions, like ZeroConf and Bonjour, to name a couple that come to mind, they've even given back to the community at large.
Apple uses policies that prevent users from side-loading apps or using other app stores
Time for this meme to die. It hasn't really been true since iOS 8.0. Do some research on Cydia Impactor, and the vibrant iOS Open Source community. And no, it isn't all just Swift stuff... ...And besides, considering the Googolplex of Android Malware articles (almost all of them even involving the supposedly-curated Google Play Store), I am more than happy with the Googolplex of CLEAN Apps I can DL WITHOUT WORRY from the iOS App Store, thankyouverymuch!
also somehow they manage to sell 3 year old devices that will have support dropped in like 1 year. that should be illegal (they do this in asia. apple actually has mid tier phones and has had for years. they just keep selling the old models - and this is new in box models through operators, a lot of it in asia. no refurbs. but new in box phones of 3 year old phones. thats their 200 dollar segment). apple sells them and doesn't give a fuck that the sw support is due to be dropped in just a little while.
So glad you can accurately predict the future!
When it comes to supporting older devices, especially Mobile ones, NOBODY can compare Apple negatively to ANYONE else.
Period.
iOS12 (just released about a month ago), supports iPhones back to the 5s.
That's equivalent to Samsung still Supporting the Galaxy S4 with OS and Security Updates(!!!)
According to the link below, the last OS Update for the S4 was Android LOLLIPOP, in November, 2015.
https://www.androidpit.com/gal...
So kindly STFU on this subject. You just look (even more) stupid arguing this point.
Yea, it was a logic board failure. I went to a third party for a logic board repair, but they were unsuccessful. I don't remember how much I got for all the parts, but it was enough to buy an almost-new 2017 MacBook Air with zero money out of pocket. I'm still using that Air as my main computer.
Well, so it sounds like Apple wasn't trying to unnecessarily "pump up" the repair. That's nice to know.
That's one good thing about Apple; their stuff gets really good "used" prices. Great that you were even able to get that for the parts!
So, all in all, sounds like you were able to turn lemons into Applejuice!
Good job!
Christ but you are stupid.
apple sucks equally at hardware and software.
Yeah, the Apple designed SoC in that new iPad Pro sure sucks.
You are so pathetic.
And you are so COWARDLY.
Now what?
Except that all those get ground up for recycling too...
Did you actually think that iPhones were the only old cell phones being recycled? That's so silly it's sorta adorable in a child/santa claus kinda way.
No, I don't think they are being so CAREFULLY recycled. Apple's robot is purpose built to DECONSTRUCT iPhones (and iPads, I think) and does useful stuff like saving the screws, rather than just grinding everything up into dust, like all those "we recycle your used compute-ors" guys. I think they grind the chassis into dust; but that's kind of the best you can do; and since they are now building new production units with 100% recycled aluminum (likely primarily from this recycling robot), rather than just selling the aluminum-dust to the scrap metal dealer, it's pretty clear to see the direct benefits, both to Apple, and the planet.
Apple will price any older model repair far beyond the value of the device, making the service uneconomical.
Prove it, or STFU.
Anecdotally Apple quoted $950 to repair my 2015 MacBook Pro, but they would "recycle" it for free. Not obsolete, but beyond its retail value in working condition. I parted it out.
No doubt, since Apple does pretty much exclusively "module-level" (or board-level) repair (like MANY companies), they no doubt determined that your repair would require a main logic board replacement, and that's unfortunately about right for that, regardless of the OEM.
Parting it out was probably a good idea, and likely would have gotten you most of the way to the purchase of a replacement MacBook Pro, if not with money to spare...
How much total DID you make? Just curious.
Actually, no. They've always had enough parts. Do you really believe they suddenly found a long lost trove of ancient Apple parts?
No, I don't.
Those models were about to automatically go on "Vintage" status based solely on their age, and I think Apple took a look at their global parts inventory and said "We can keep supporting these on repair for now." So we are, for the time being, "deferring" their "Vintage" Status until it becomes impractical due to lack of parts-inventory.
They have expressly said "While supplies last. We aren't making anymore parts for these (probably really couldn't for some of them. Molds wear out, components become unavailable, etc.). When they're gone, they're gone."
So, it is a much more consumer-friendly decision than just scrapping the parts and taking a tax-writeoff, which is what a LOT of companies do.
Sady the apps I need do not since Apple refuses to release new OS versions for it. :-( I use android now.
How's that "Support" on Android workin' out for ya?
Idiot.