Or you could, you know, use the adaptor included WITH EVERY iPHONE
Why the flock would I want to use a big clunky dongle attached to the bottom of my phone for headphones? There is a reason every phone maker places their headphone jacks at or near the top of the phone.
What "big, clunky dongle"?
The INCLUDED Lightning to 3.5 mm adapter CABLE us neither "big", nor "clunky". In fact, it is hard to imagine how they even FIT the DAC inside the thing.
Fantastic. And what will you do when the headphones included in the box stop working properly (which will likely be soon since Apple can't figure out how wires work)?
No. Some people can't figure out how wires and connectors work. And that's a fact, Jack!
It seems Apple wants to be in the octopus adapter business. And you pay dearly for the adapter and the different cables to be use in their newer laptops. If you want to AC power your laptop while connected to ethernet, attach an external camera, headphones and microphone, and a large monitor as well as.... Think about that. Not terribly uncommon in my experience.
Go to Amazon. Type "USB-c" into the search. Receive 20+ pages of results for adapters, mini-docks, cables, USB sticks, et CETERA, and almost none of them Apple-branded, but nearly ALL that will happily work with the new MacBook Pro (and the plethora of OTHER laptops that have adopted USB-C/TB3).
So, if Apple wants to be in the adapter business, so does Acer, Asus, HP, MS, Lenovo, etc.
Get you head out of your ass and do just a LITTLE research before spewing your unfounded anti-Apple HATE, fucktard.
Yeah, or people who lose the headphones that only work with one device. It was a shitty choice all around to milk the fanboys' wallets. Lets not pretend that it was anything other than that.
Apple took away the headphone jack, and now $160 headphones are selling quite well? I can certainly believe that. I can believe it's the only reason they removed the headphone jack. I can believe that no matter how badly Apple treats it's faithful, they'll just keep giving Apple money.
You're a typical Slashtard Apple Hater idiot.
If you are speaking of the iPhone 7, Appe INCLUDED a Lightning to 3.5 mm cable WITH THE PHONE.
How does that fit into your Conspiracy Theory, dumbass?
That's fair. The question was about innovation. Lots of innovative things start out as not quite there yet. I don't think there's much question that MS is beating Apple in terms of innovation lately.
Pretty much the whole Surface line. The Studio is amazing.
Looks amazing.
Just like the 2010 Apple Patent (that MS simply ripped-off) for a touchscreen iMac that Apple obviously built, and rejected, due to the massive problems with the ergonomics of the whole idea.
Good sales.. is not an indication of product success.
If I ever get off my ass and start a business (i.e. never) remind me that the above AC is not going to be my director of sales. At my business, sales will be viewed as The Most Important Indicator of a product's success. That's because my business would be for-profit. Theoretically, at least.
I have to hand it to Apple for having the perfect approach to judging (and creating) product success: sales. Apple is about the money, and you basically can't do better than that, from a business perspective. (From a user perspective, everything is different, though, and that's why it's so mysterious to me that anybody buys that company's junk. But they do.) It's a refreshing reminder that not necessarily the entire economy has vowed to drive away customers and prevent revenue, the way that Hollywood is always trying to do.
Even when they do horrible, hostile, anti-user things, the users show up and throw money at them, showing that they don't judge Apple or their products' quality. What other business has succeeded at finding these types of customers? Who is better? Not even Scientologists are this good, if you believe some of the rumored numbers.
You might cast about and read the many, many glowing reviews from both media publications and users alike before you stick your foot even further in your mouth, Hater.
It doesn't work that way. There is a significant barrier of entry in order to be able to compete with google or apple app stores and hence the legal onus is on them to ensure they are not misbehaving, it is not good enough to say someone could just start their own.
Sorry. It works EXACTLY that way in a free market.
Apple started with two guys in a garage, financed by the $1500 sale of a VW Microbus.
Google started with (IIRC) two guys in a dorm-room. One at least was a fairly poor Student from Russia, maybe both.
What's YOUR excuse? As I said, the OS has already been written for you. You can call up Qualcomm and Samsung and buy all the special-purpose silicon, RF stuff and touchscreen hardware you need. They will also provide you with reference designs and pre-built drivers for the radio, display and network stuff. You can contract a design firm to do the chassis, etc.You can contract Foxconn or TSMC to build the things.
Yes, the TV in question can be repaired. Mr. Cauthon can disassemble the thing, remove the boards, desolder the flash memory, attach it to a reader/programmer, change bits to match a known-good unit, then rebuild the entire thing to see if it works. It's not going to be easy, but it will work... Of course doing it that way would cost a lot more than just replacing the board with a spare and resetting the memory, so that's what the service center will actually do.
Or, more likely, he can just do whatever control-dance is necessary to get the unit into the "Service Menu", and either attach a JTAG interface to the on-board connector, or more likely, plug a USB stick with the proper firmware file into one of the several USB ports that the TV is likely to have (my LG TV has FOUR of them), or, if the Firmware Update process is like it normally is, the whole thing can be triggered and will download and apply the Firmware via WiFi/Terrestrial Ethernet.
It may, however, require taking the TV to an authorized repair center for LG, perhaps using this handy webpage.
10-to-1 odds his relatives downloaded some shady app promising "free movies" (aka pirated movies), and was downloaded from a shady source. This generally doesn't happen by itself, and it's pretty rare to get infected by stuff from the official store. Yes, it happens, but the *vast* majority of Android malware is on 3rd party sites.
The general public needs to learn that downloading stuff from unverified 3rd party sources is going to get you infected sooner or later.
But that's why iOS Sucks and Android Rulez! FREEDOM!!!
I think the issue is that the licensing on the proprietary software would restrict what they could do with their own software and expose them to crippling legal costs. It's not as simple as 'they don't want anything to do with proprietary software'.
I thought you were under a Time-Crunch deadline? What are you doing trolling Slashdot?
I didn't close my laptop backpack and my T430 fell out of it in a mall onto a hard tile floor. It bounced several times. No damage whatsoever, not even a chip. Compare that to a macbook, I dropped the same laptop on one from half a height once and it actually dented the keyboard surface of the case. I can't imagine what a drop from that height would do to a macbook. It certainly wouldn't look the same.
Yeah, and you're getting one hour battery life from your new MacBook Pro, too, without providing a scintilla of evidence "because you're too busy". Yet you seem to have time to follow and respond to multiple Slashdot threads, including this one.
You sir are both a liar and a poser.
And I sincerely doubt you are a Developer as you alluded to yesterday by claiming you were "down to one hour of battery life after 50 charge cycles, running only Firefox and 'standard Development tools'." Yet you couldn't be bothered to look at Activity Monitor's "Energy" tab to see if something had inserted a big ol' fat drinking-straw into your MBP's battery, because "Apples are supposed to 'Just Work'."
I have watched Phil Schiller (and others) onstage for many years, and either he is an Academy Award-level Actor, or his enthusiasm I have observed over the years is genuine. I choose to believe my gut that it is the latter.
Whoopi Goldberg is an Academy Award-level actress (yes she actually won one) so that's not much of a reference. And nobody is saying he hasn't drank the Kool-Aid, the point is that instead of seriously looking at their battery problem (which has surfaced many times in the news) Apple is sending a marketing "enthusiast" to convince people that the incompetents in this matter are Consumer Reports, not Apple.
You're an idiot.
Who do you think Phil Schiller actually has working on this? Marketing, or Engineering?
Phil Schiller has been involved in many aspects of Apple during his loooooong tenure with the company. It is obvious to anyone who has watched his career at Apple that he is, first and foremost, and outside of any title he may hold, an Apple User and an Apple Enthusiast, who takes both the product and the whole "experience" quite seriously.
honestly, "TheFakeTimCook", do you jerk off to pictures of Apple executives? I've seen fanbois before you're up there with macs4all.
LOL, not at all!
But as an Apple owner and User since 1976 (who unfortunately is a Windows Dev by trade right now), I have watched Phil Schiller (and others) onstage for many years, and either he is an Academy Award-level Actor, or his enthusiasm I have observed over the years is genuine. I choose to believe my gut that it is the latter.
People are disconnected from reality. I mean really, does it matter that George Michael died for example? The guy hasn't had a hit in 30 years. He was a mediocre pop star in the 1980s. Yet everyone slobbers over him calling him a great "R&B" singer. Give it a rest people.
I'm not a George Michaels fan; but anyone who has two Grammy's and an album with four #1 Hits on it, no matter how long ago, is not rightly classed as "mediocre", sorry.
I'm a developer who is currently under a huge crunch to get stuff done. I don't have time to spend to download stuff and research stuff, in fact I'm surprised I am still talking to you. I'm not comfortable with installing free third party tools I usually buy $400 thinkpads and I am accustomed to dealing with poor battery life. I just plug in and deal with it until Apple figures it out.
I was just saying that I was surprised that it will happen with an Apple. Apples are not community supported devices, so no, I do not feel responsible in any way to investigate this.
You say you are under a time-crunch (which, as a Dev. myself, I certainly understand), yet you have taken the time to respond to post-after-post.
And I share your reluctance to install and use third-party tools (although Coconut Battery is pretty benign, because all it does is expose some System variables, and has been around for quite awhile; so it is likely quite safe); but when I suggest Running something like Apple's Activity Monitor (built-in), and looking at the "Energy" tab, you won't do it. Why? Instead, you run "top", which isn't nearly as sophisticated. I believe that the "Energy" Tab in Activity Monitor also shows GPU usage, which "top" is oblivious-to. THINK!
It's got nothing to do with "responsibility". But if I were in your place, I'd be sure to poke around a little, just for my own edification, if nothing else.
If I am buying less than the most expensive laptop on the market I expect to troubleshoot here and there. Not only do I have the 'most premium' device but I have shelled out for Applecare. I have paid good money for not having to worry about it. It's still a nice laptop. I like it more than I expected to. Just a little disappointed with the battery life that's all.
So do the simple tests I suggested and we can all benefit.
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Or you could, you know, use the adaptor included WITH EVERY iPHONE
Why the flock would I want to use a big clunky dongle attached to the bottom of my phone for headphones? There is a reason every phone maker places their headphone jacks at or near the top of the phone.
What "big, clunky dongle"?
The INCLUDED Lightning to 3.5 mm adapter CABLE us neither "big", nor "clunky". In fact, it is hard to imagine how they even FIT the DAC inside the thing.
WHAT REDUCTION OF CHOICE????
You can use any headphone made with an iPhone seven, right out of the box.
This one made me chuckle.
It would, you idiotic, Appke-Hating, MORON.
Fantastic. And what will you do when the headphones included in the box stop working properly (which will likely be soon since Apple can't figure out how wires work)?
No. Some people can't figure out how wires and connectors work. And that's a fact, Jack!
It seems Apple wants to be in the octopus adapter business. And you pay dearly for the adapter and the different cables to be use in their newer laptops. If you want to AC power your laptop while connected to ethernet, attach an external camera, headphones and microphone, and a large monitor as well as.... Think about that. Not terribly uncommon in my experience.
Go to Amazon. Type "USB-c" into the search. Receive 20+ pages of results for adapters, mini-docks, cables, USB sticks, et CETERA, and almost none of them Apple-branded, but nearly ALL that will happily work with the new MacBook Pro (and the plethora of OTHER laptops that have adopted USB-C/TB3).
So, if Apple wants to be in the adapter business, so does Acer, Asus, HP, MS, Lenovo, etc.
Get you head out of your ass and do just a LITTLE research before spewing your unfounded anti-Apple HATE, fucktard.
Yeah, or people who lose the headphones that only work with one device. It was a shitty choice all around to milk the fanboys' wallets. Lets not pretend that it was anything other than that.
Not in the moronic Hater-mindset.
Courage!
Apple took away the headphone jack, and now $160 headphones are selling quite well? I can certainly believe that. I can believe it's the only reason they removed the headphone jack. I can believe that no matter how badly Apple treats it's faithful, they'll just keep giving Apple money.
You're a typical Slashtard Apple Hater idiot.
If you are speaking of the iPhone 7, Appe INCLUDED a Lightning to 3.5 mm cable WITH THE PHONE.
How does that fit into your Conspiracy Theory, dumbass?
That's fair. The question was about innovation. Lots of innovative things start out as not quite there yet. I don't think there's much question that MS is beating Apple in terms of innovation lately.
Sorry, no.
They aren't locked down, you can run anything you like on them
Are you implying that Macs are "locked down"?
Pretty much the whole Surface line. The Studio is amazing.
Looks amazing.
Just like the 2010 Apple Patent (that MS simply ripped-off) for a touchscreen iMac that Apple obviously built, and rejected, due to the massive problems with the ergonomics of the whole idea.
1) iPad Pro: Meh. 2) Apple Watch: Meh. 3) MBP 2016: Meh 4) iPhone 7: Meh 5) Airpods?
I'm going to go with "Meh".
Mods???? How in the FUCK is that "Insightful?"
If I ever get off my ass and start a business (i.e. never) remind me that the above AC is not going to be my director of sales. At my business, sales will be viewed as The Most Important Indicator of a product's success. That's because my business would be for-profit. Theoretically, at least.
I have to hand it to Apple for having the perfect approach to judging (and creating) product success: sales. Apple is about the money, and you basically can't do better than that, from a business perspective. (From a user perspective, everything is different, though, and that's why it's so mysterious to me that anybody buys that company's junk. But they do.) It's a refreshing reminder that not necessarily the entire economy has vowed to drive away customers and prevent revenue, the way that Hollywood is always trying to do.
Even when they do horrible, hostile, anti-user things, the users show up and throw money at them, showing that they don't judge Apple or their products' quality. What other business has succeeded at finding these types of customers? Who is better? Not even Scientologists are this good, if you believe some of the rumored numbers.
You might cast about and read the many, many glowing reviews from both media publications and users alike before you stick your foot even further in your mouth, Hater.
Who do you think Phil Schiller actually has working on this? Marketing, or Engineering?
Neither.
And now you're an obdurate idiot.
It doesn't work that way. There is a significant barrier of entry in order to be able to compete with google or apple app stores and hence the legal onus is on them to ensure they are not misbehaving, it is not good enough to say someone could just start their own.
Sorry. It works EXACTLY that way in a free market.
Apple started with two guys in a garage, financed by the $1500 sale of a VW Microbus.
Google started with (IIRC) two guys in a dorm-room. One at least was a fairly poor Student from Russia, maybe both.
What's YOUR excuse? As I said, the OS has already been written for you. You can call up Qualcomm and Samsung and buy all the special-purpose silicon, RF stuff and touchscreen hardware you need. They will also provide you with reference designs and pre-built drivers for the radio, display and network stuff. You can contract a design firm to do the chassis, etc.You can contract Foxconn or TSMC to build the things.
So, all that's left is... Profit!
Yes, the TV in question can be repaired. Mr. Cauthon can disassemble the thing, remove the boards, desolder the flash memory, attach it to a reader/programmer, change bits to match a known-good unit, then rebuild the entire thing to see if it works. It's not going to be easy, but it will work... Of course doing it that way would cost a lot more than just replacing the board with a spare and resetting the memory, so that's what the service center will actually do.
Or, more likely, he can just do whatever control-dance is necessary to get the unit into the "Service Menu", and either attach a JTAG interface to the on-board connector, or more likely, plug a USB stick with the proper firmware file into one of the several USB ports that the TV is likely to have (my LG TV has FOUR of them), or, if the Firmware Update process is like it normally is, the whole thing can be triggered and will download and apply the Firmware via WiFi/Terrestrial Ethernet.
It may, however, require taking the TV to an authorized repair center for LG, perhaps using this handy webpage.
10-to-1 odds his relatives downloaded some shady app promising "free movies" (aka pirated movies), and was downloaded from a shady source. This generally doesn't happen by itself, and it's pretty rare to get infected by stuff from the official store. Yes, it happens, but the *vast* majority of Android malware is on 3rd party sites.
The general public needs to learn that downloading stuff from unverified 3rd party sources is going to get you infected sooner or later.
But that's why iOS Sucks and Android Rulez! FREEDOM!!!
Ask any Slashtard Fandroid Apple-Hater.
I think the issue is that the licensing on the proprietary software would restrict what they could do with their own software and expose them to crippling legal costs. It's not as simple as 'they don't want anything to do with proprietary software'.
I thought you were under a Time-Crunch deadline? What are you doing trolling Slashdot?
I didn't close my laptop backpack and my T430 fell out of it in a mall onto a hard tile floor. It bounced several times. No damage whatsoever, not even a chip. Compare that to a macbook, I dropped the same laptop on one from half a height once and it actually dented the keyboard surface of the case. I can't imagine what a drop from that height would do to a macbook. It certainly wouldn't look the same.
Yeah, and you're getting one hour battery life from your new MacBook Pro, too, without providing a scintilla of evidence "because you're too busy". Yet you seem to have time to follow and respond to multiple Slashdot threads, including this one.
You sir are both a liar and a poser.
And I sincerely doubt you are a Developer as you alluded to yesterday by claiming you were "down to one hour of battery life after 50 charge cycles, running only Firefox and 'standard Development tools'." Yet you couldn't be bothered to look at Activity Monitor's "Energy" tab to see if something had inserted a big ol' fat drinking-straw into your MBP's battery, because "Apples are supposed to 'Just Work'."
Riiiiight...
I have watched Phil Schiller (and others) onstage for many years, and either he is an Academy Award-level Actor, or his enthusiasm I have observed over the years is genuine. I choose to believe my gut that it is the latter.
Whoopi Goldberg is an Academy Award-level actress (yes she actually won one) so that's not much of a reference. And nobody is saying he hasn't drank the Kool-Aid, the point is that instead of seriously looking at their battery problem (which has surfaced many times in the news) Apple is sending a marketing "enthusiast" to convince people that the incompetents in this matter are Consumer Reports, not Apple.
You're an idiot.
Who do you think Phil Schiller actually has working on this? Marketing, or Engineering?
Phil Schiller has been involved in many aspects of Apple during his loooooong tenure with the company. It is obvious to anyone who has watched his career at Apple that he is, first and foremost, and outside of any title he may hold, an Apple User and an Apple Enthusiast, who takes both the product and the whole "experience" quite seriously.
honestly, "TheFakeTimCook", do you jerk off to pictures of Apple executives? I've seen fanbois before you're up there with macs4all.
LOL, not at all!
But as an Apple owner and User since 1976 (who unfortunately is a Windows Dev by trade right now), I have watched Phil Schiller (and others) onstage for many years, and either he is an Academy Award-level Actor, or his enthusiasm I have observed over the years is genuine. I choose to believe my gut that it is the latter.
I'm a WOMAN you inconsiderate clod!
No. You're an Anonymous Coward.
Your username is the equivalent of a teenage girl putting posters of a boys band on her wall, except you're stuck with it
My, what a fact-filled and erudite post. I am so enlightened. Do you have a newsletter I might subscribe to?
So did the author of "Watership Down" today. And a foul mouthed comic died too.
Actually, Ricky Harris died yesterday.
And Richard Adams lived to the ripe, old age of 96.
Carrie Fisher died at 60. That's too young these days... But Ricky Harris was only 54.
"Another 40,000 comin' every day..."
People are disconnected from reality. I mean really, does it matter that George Michael died for example? The guy hasn't had a hit in 30 years. He was a mediocre pop star in the 1980s. Yet everyone slobbers over him calling him a great "R&B" singer. Give it a rest people.
I'm not a George Michaels fan; but anyone who has two Grammy's and an album with four #1 Hits on it, no matter how long ago, is not rightly classed as "mediocre", sorry.
I'm a developer who is currently under a huge crunch to get stuff done. I don't have time to spend to download stuff and research stuff, in fact I'm surprised I am still talking to you. I'm not comfortable with installing free third party tools I usually buy $400 thinkpads and I am accustomed to dealing with poor battery life. I just plug in and deal with it until Apple figures it out. I was just saying that I was surprised that it will happen with an Apple. Apples are not community supported devices, so no, I do not feel responsible in any way to investigate this.
You say you are under a time-crunch (which, as a Dev. myself, I certainly understand), yet you have taken the time to respond to post-after-post.
And I share your reluctance to install and use third-party tools (although Coconut Battery is pretty benign, because all it does is expose some System variables, and has been around for quite awhile; so it is likely quite safe); but when I suggest Running something like Apple's Activity Monitor (built-in), and looking at the "Energy" tab, you won't do it. Why? Instead, you run "top", which isn't nearly as sophisticated. I believe that the "Energy" Tab in Activity Monitor also shows GPU usage, which "top" is oblivious-to. THINK!
It's got nothing to do with "responsibility". But if I were in your place, I'd be sure to poke around a little, just for my own edification, if nothing else.
If I am buying less than the most expensive laptop on the market I expect to troubleshoot here and there. Not only do I have the 'most premium' device but I have shelled out for Applecare. I have paid good money for not having to worry about it. It's still a nice laptop. I like it more than I expected to. Just a little disappointed with the battery life that's all.
So do the simple tests I suggested and we can all benefit.