So it's "Shilling" to point out that Samsung failed to mention that Samsung HAD been found to infringe upon the two of Apple's Utility patents; so this is hardly an just an issue over "Rounded Corners", or "Rows of Icons", or any Design Patent stuff?
I would like an option to select exactly what kind of permissions I grant an app. If I then try to use it in a way that requires additional permissions, it would pop up a request saying that it needs permission to use such-and-such to proceed, allowing me a choice of a one-time or permanent extension of the permissions.
You can have that today. Just buy an iOS device. That's basically the way iOS has worked for years.
âoeAll these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there.â
Aren't they planning on submersible probes to send to Europa? If they fins a crack or fissure in the ice and go straight into the water you could argue that we technically havent landed there. I wonder if the aliens care about semantics?
Quoting inane crap from a shitty novel and shitty movie does not make you seem smart. It makes you seem obsessed with minutiae nobody - and I mean NOBODY - is interested in. Nobody but lowlife autistic losers like you. Grow up. Oh sorry, too late. Kill yourself.
While you were at it, you forgot to mention that no one cares that John McCain is Dying.
I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.
HP bought Compaq for $25 billion... in stock... in HP. At a time when they were contracting in every market... Remember when HP had their own architecture? Remember when HP was a trusted name in PCs? Remember when you wouldn't even think about buying a printer from anyone else, before they went DRM-crazy? Pepperidge Farms remembers. That was back when you had to hand-crank your ice cream.
I remember ALL of that!
That's why I will NEVER get rid of the HP 4m Printer with a whopping 8k copies on it(!!!!!) that I got for TEN DOLLARS at a Salvation Army store!
Wanna guess how long THAT printer will last at typical "home" duty cycle?
And thanks to Apple's acquisition of CUPS, I didn't even mind when the LJ's PostScript ROM board took a shit. I just started using it as a regular LJ4 (WAAAY faster that way, anyway!)...
And to be fair, unless it has gotten a LOT better since I last dealt with it in 1988 or so (which is ENTIRELY possible!), Finale was not the most well-thought-out UI experience. Afterall, it is a high-end Music COMPOSITION and ARRANGEMENT tool; not "Performance" software.
It has gotten a lot better since 1988. But it is still just for composition and arrangement, not performance. Those weird key combinations I described are ways of changing the duration of notes as you enter them. You choose (for example) the eighth note tool, click in or hit enter to place the note, then hit option-# to change it from an eighth note to the actual duration that you intended. Once you know the key combinations, you can key stuff in much more quickly.
There are also keyboard combinations for things like articulations, where if you want something to be staccato (for example), you can choose the articulation tool and hold down the 'S' key while clicking, rather than clicking and then searching for the dot in the resulting menu afterwards.
As I said, not the best thought-out UI experience.
But why not just "enter" using a MIDI keyboard? Finale has supported that even back when I used it. That HAS to be the fastest way to enter music into Finale. Even one of those mini keyboard controllers, like the Korg one, would be better than entering music via point-n-click. Sure, you'll have to go back and put in your articulation stuff (like the Stacatto dots); but it gets the raw ideas down quickly.
I once worked at a High School Computer Lab, and one of the more tech-savvy English teachers would bring classes down to the lab to do English Comp. assignments on our 30+ Apple ][ computers and AppleWorks. She taught an interesting way, that has stuck with me. She taught "Get your thoughts down. Don't fret the spelling, punctuation, or even most grammar." Since it is a word-processor, those things are easy to go back and correct in a second-pass. But getting your thoughts down is the most important thing at first.
So, I am saying, the same thing goes for writing music. "Scribble it out" first with the AGO keyboard, then use your mouse and computer keyboard to edit.
That's a really a**hole thing to say to someone who has a close family member who is suffering from tremors. Shame on you.
You are entirely correct. Please accept my sincere apology for my unknowing gaffe and insensitivity.
No worries. To be fair, I chuckled a bit.:-)
You Insensitive Clod!;-)
1. There seems to be plenty of space between the center of the top row of keys to the bottom of the Touchbar to avoid "Accidental Touches" by all but the most ham-fisted "Typists".
Seems is the operative word. The most common situation in which I see this happening is when I have to hit option and a far-off number key (e.g. 7) with the left hand between mouse clicks with the right. In that situation, it isn't the finger on the key that brushes the touch bar, but rather my middle finger, which has no safe place to rest. Yes, these sorts of chording behaviors are un-ergonomic as heck, but they make note entry fast as long as you don't have a touchbar popping open System Preferences all the time and taking you completely out of the app.
Perhaps you should adjust your "chording" a bit. I am really not trying to be snarky.
Absolutely, though it turns out to be easier said than done. The easier solution, albeit a partial one, was just to make sure the parts of the touchbar that my middle finger gets near when holding option-6 through option-8 with my left hand are blank. That at least makes it tolerable.
Ok.
2. If it bothers you that much, simply park an external keyboard (with a "real" ESC key!) in front of your MBP. Yes, it's a bit of a kludge...
A bit? I bought a laptop, not a desktop. I shouldn't have to use an external keyboard just because some engineer thought that putting a touch-sensitive strip less than an eighth of an inch from active keys was a good idea.
well, you can continue to bitch about the keyboard you can't change, or find a way to deal with it. But I think you are much more interested in the former "solution"
That's not a solution. At best it's a workaround, and isn't very practical when I'm not at home. The thing is, a lot of folks at Apple read Slashdot. Complaining about it might not solve the problem for me, but at least it might get somebody's attention who can solve it (whether through software or future design changes).
The biggest problem with the touchbar, honestly, is that the software that drives it is so underdeveloped. They provide support for app developers to customize it for a particular app, but they don't support letting users customize it for a specific app. (You can only choose between a few predefined sets or a single custom set.) If I could make the touchbar show nothing in Finale, show only the escape key in Terminal, etc. without fragile third-party hacks, it would be a lot less horrid. And the lack of touch sensitivity/glancing blow detection is just one of many examples of them shipping this hardware before the software was really ready.
I'd complain on MacRumors, too...
And to be fair, unless it has gotten a LOT better since I last dealt with it in 1988 or so (which is ENTIRELY possible!), Finale was not the most well-thought-out UI experience. Afterall, it is a high-end Music COMPOSITION and ARRANGEMENT tool; not "Performance" software.
Well, if my F key starts doubling up again (it did it for a week) I'll do that. Some of us actually work for a living, though, and don't have time to pester Apple for months until they cave in, then go entirely without the machine for 1-2 weeks for the repair. And yes, that's how long that repair takes because they have to send it out.
That's a BS excuse, and you know it.
Not only do you work at home; but, if you have time to write long epistles (some of your/. comments are LOOOOOONG!), you have the time to do a little pestering...]
Jus' sayin'...;-)
Oh, and out of warranty it's a $750 repair. What did I say elsewhere in the discussion about replacing a Mercedes with a Fiat because you can do so for less than the cost of repairing the Mercedes and the Fiat will keep running if it gets a little dirty? Oh, yeah, it makes sense to do it, that's what I was saying...
That's why you need to have documented that you were Pestering BEFORE your Warranty expired!
That's a really a**hole thing to say to someone who has a close family member who is suffering from tremors. Shame on you.
You are entirely correct. Please accept my sincere apology for my unknowing gaffe and insensitivity.
1. There seems to be plenty of space between the center of the top row of keys to the bottom of the Touchbar to avoid "Accidental Touches" by all but the most ham-fisted "Typists".
Seems is the operative word. The most common situation in which I see this happening is when I have to hit option and a far-off number key (e.g. 7) with the left hand between mouse clicks with the right. In that situation, it isn't the finger on the key that brushes the touch bar, but rather my middle finger, which has no safe place to rest. Yes, these sorts of chording behaviors are un-ergonomic as heck, but they make note entry fast as long as you don't have a touchbar popping open System Preferences all the time and taking you completely out of the app.
Perhaps you should adjust your "chording" a bit. I am really not trying to be snarky.
2. If it bothers you that much, simply park an external keyboard (with a "real" ESC key!) in front of your MBP. Yes, it's a bit of a kludge...
A bit? I bought a laptop, not a desktop. I shouldn't have to use an external keyboard just because some engineer thought that putting a touch-sensitive strip less than an eighth of an inch from active keys was a good idea.
well, you can continue to bitch about the keyboard you can't change, or find a way to deal with it. But I think you are much more interested in the former "solution"
Having said that, I DO believe Apple should update their TouchBar driver or firmware to include some sort of "sensitivity" or "glancing-blow" detection/adjustment, kind of like with the Trackpad. Another fix would be to mount the entire TouchBar on a "spring-loaded" mount; so that a bit of down-force (albeit anywhere on the TB) would be required to "register" a Tap. If Apple can make a "clicky" Trackpad, then they could easily do that.
The right fix would have been to put the touchbar above the function key row, rather than replacing it. If almost nobody uses those keys (which is probably the case, with the exception of escape), then they would serve as an adequate buffer zone. But that doesn't fit the narrative of those being useless legacy baggage, so....
Well,that might be one solution, and my suggestion for Apple to "fix it in software", might be another...
Yes, they're so good at materials and mechanical product testing that they specifically tested the iPhone 6 for bend strength and still had bending issues! Okay, okay, I'll grant you that they probably test their products quite well; that they truly suck at is acting on test failures so they don't happen in the wild.
When you have to be a pedant to make your argument, you truly don't have much of an argument to make.
Yeah, they're SO unresponsive to field-failures that they completely redesigned the keyboard for the 2017 MacBook Pro, and THOSE don't seem to be failing like the 2016 versions.
Everyone make mistakes; it's how they RESPOND to those mistakes that makes the difference between a crappy company like Dell, or a superior company like Apple.
I've been Googling for about a 1/2 hour to see if you can replace a 2016 MBP's keyboard assembly with the improved 2017 version. Powerbook Medic seems to allude that pretty much everything is interchangeable between the 2016 and 2017 MBP; so...?
Should Apple issue a Recall? Perhaps. Unfortunately, the Intarwebs have a way of amplifying negativity...
So I'm supposed to remove all latops and electonics from my house because I'm doing renovations? Oh no, nothing ELSE has a problem. My Thinkpads were dine, my audo equipment was fine. It's the Macbook that requires special treatment. Maybe that's why everyone is saying THIS IS A HARDARE DEFECT.
You THINK your Thinkpads are fine; but if they were "on" while that ceramic dust was flying-around, they won't be "fine" for long.
Same thing with your audio gear, if it has fans, and was "on" during the dust-events.
Nice way to deflect the fact that Apple apparently addressed the issue, at least going forward.
What good does that do for those of us who bought affected machines? And how can you still deny the issue while admitting that Apple has "addressed" it?
When will Apple address the issue for those of us who are actually affected by it? No, replacing the keyboard with the same piece of this that failed does not count. If the v2 truly are better, give us those if they're compatible; else, make a compatible v2 as a replacement for failed v1's. That would be addressing it, but Apple won't do that until after they lose in court.
Are you SURE that a keyboard that is replaced TODAY won't get the "v2" design? I would be willing to wager a bit that the v2 keyboard is a drop-in replacement for the 2016 "v1" model.
Yes, and I have my own recording studio. That doesn't mean either of us know what the fuck we're doing in those facilities. As an owner of one of the affected laptops (and a slew of other Apple gear dating back to a Mac Classic), I can say I probably know better what I'm doing in the studio than Apple does in their testing facility, today at least. They used to produce quality hardware, but that's become less true each year since Jobs passed.
You would be VERY wrong there.
The only reason I don't actually have a recording studio myself is money. I have some stuff; but certainly not enough to call a "studio" (nevermind having no dedicated space for same!). However, I have logged many hours behind mixing desks, both for live-mixing and multitrack recording, and a fair amount of time with various DAWs. I have been a pro audio enthusiast and expert since about age 16, and play about 4 classes of instruments.
And I have a slew of Apple gear dating back to an Apple 1. And everything in-between.
But I also know that it is hubris in the EXTREME to say that Apple doesn't know how to do materials and mechanical product testing. Sorry. You are DEAD wrong there.
3. You CAN disable the Touchbar in s/w. Have you tried this?
You mean he can disable the ESC and F-keys he just told you he actually needs in software? That seems super helpful!
Actually, I kinda doubt it's that big of a problem.
I Googled for about a half hour, and I only turned-up about two reports of this "Hyper-Sensitivity" he spoke of. I don't doubt he experiences it; but if it was THAT much of an issue, Apple would have released a Firmware/Driver update to adjust sensitivity by now. Something as simple as defining the "hot spot" as a much smaller zone, instead of the entire "button" rectangle, and/or requiring a longer press, and/or a "larger" press, immediately come to mind.
That article shows them testing the iPhone 6 for bending, yet they still had bendgate... They don't know what they are doing.
1. You have NO idea how much force was being used in that photo. ANYTHING will bend (or simply break!), given enough force.
2. "Bendgate" was OBVIOUSLY a farce. You'll notice how quickly it dissipated. If it had actually been a design or materials defect, there would have been Class Action Suits, people would STILL be bitching, etc.
and if they spend that much time at a desk, they have a desktop.
Except the "desktop" Apple makes is a trashcan with all the parts welded to the motherboard. No upgrading, no replacing bad parts. If something goes wrong or breaks, you have a multi-thousand dollar paper weight.
It's call "soldering", not welding, retard. And it is ESSENTIAL for all electronic assemblies.
Uh no, I'm not going to pay good money to solve problems on an expensive 'pro' machine that shouldn't be there in the first place. If Apple had recommended such a keyboard cover as part of a purchase, as a measure to make their laptops last in normal environments then I could have made an educated decision. But they don't do that, because then it would hurt their laptop sales. Honestly, I didn't even know keyboard covers existed and I think that is ridiculously complicated. I've always had Thinkpads and the keyboards have always been fine.
You weren't putting them in a CONSTRUCTION ZONE, RETARD!
So I am supposed to only use my laptop in a clean room? We are renovating our hose and removed 1000 square feet of tile floor. I didn't have my laptop where it was dusty but all rooms had some dust. Am I supposed to have a special clean locker for my laptop?
Ah, NOW the truth comes out!
Not too many things more insidious and abrasive than ceramic dust...
You hit the nail on the head there. No company tells you the truth about longevity and there is no way to know until these laptops get old enough to experience issues. Totally unfair to blame the consumer for this.
And doofus, if you actually KNEW anything about product-design, you would understand that, NO amount of "destructive testing" which Apple most assuredly does, prepares the OEM for the "cleverness" of real-world users.
As an alleged software Developer, you should innately UNDERSTAND that.
Slashdot Mirror
Shills be shillin'...
So it's "Shilling" to point out that Samsung failed to mention that Samsung HAD been found to infringe upon the two of Apple's Utility patents; so this is hardly an just an issue over "Rounded Corners", or "Rows of Icons", or any Design Patent stuff?
Hater be Hatin', more like.
I would like an option to select exactly what kind of permissions I grant an app. If I then try to use it in a way that requires additional permissions, it would pop up a request saying that it needs permission to use such-and-such to proceed, allowing me a choice of a one-time or permanent extension of the permissions.
You can have that today. Just buy an iOS device. That's basically the way iOS has worked for years.
Oh shit! He capitalized some words, so he's gotta be right. Fucking annoying.
Indeed you are.
Why not address the merits of my argument, rather than how closely I have adhered to your personal style manual?
âoeAll these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there.â
Aren't they planning on submersible probes to send to Europa? If they fins a crack or fissure in the ice and go straight into the water you could argue that we technically havent landed there. I wonder if the aliens care about semantics?
We'll find out...
Quoting inane crap from a shitty novel and shitty movie does not make you seem smart. It makes you seem obsessed with minutiae nobody - and I mean NOBODY - is interested in. Nobody but lowlife autistic losers like you. Grow up. Oh sorry, too late. Kill yourself.
While you were at it, you forgot to mention that no one cares that John McCain is Dying.
Fucking illiterate clod.
I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.
HP bought Compaq for $25 billion... in stock... in HP. At a time when they were contracting in every market... Remember when HP had their own architecture? Remember when HP was a trusted name in PCs? Remember when you wouldn't even think about buying a printer from anyone else, before they went DRM-crazy? Pepperidge Farms remembers. That was back when you had to hand-crank your ice cream.
I remember ALL of that!
That's why I will NEVER get rid of the HP 4m Printer with a whopping 8k copies on it(!!!!!) that I got for TEN DOLLARS at a Salvation Army store!
Wanna guess how long THAT printer will last at typical "home" duty cycle?
And thanks to Apple's acquisition of CUPS, I didn't even mind when the LJ's PostScript ROM board took a shit. I just started using it as a regular LJ4 (WAAAY faster that way, anyway!)...
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...
Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.
Perhaps a little self-aggrandizement?
I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.
So, who really knows?
It has gotten a lot better since 1988. But it is still just for composition and arrangement, not performance. Those weird key combinations I described are ways of changing the duration of notes as you enter them. You choose (for example) the eighth note tool, click in or hit enter to place the note, then hit option-# to change it from an eighth note to the actual duration that you intended. Once you know the key combinations, you can key stuff in much more quickly.
There are also keyboard combinations for things like articulations, where if you want something to be staccato (for example), you can choose the articulation tool and hold down the 'S' key while clicking, rather than clicking and then searching for the dot in the resulting menu afterwards.
As I said, not the best thought-out UI experience.
But why not just "enter" using a MIDI keyboard? Finale has supported that even back when I used it. That HAS to be the fastest way to enter music into Finale. Even one of those mini keyboard controllers, like the Korg one, would be better than entering music via point-n-click. Sure, you'll have to go back and put in your articulation stuff (like the Stacatto dots); but it gets the raw ideas down quickly.
I once worked at a High School Computer Lab, and one of the more tech-savvy English teachers would bring classes down to the lab to do English Comp. assignments on our 30+ Apple ][ computers and AppleWorks. She taught an interesting way, that has stuck with me. She taught "Get your thoughts down. Don't fret the spelling, punctuation, or even most grammar." Since it is a word-processor, those things are easy to go back and correct in a second-pass. But getting your thoughts down is the most important thing at first.
So, I am saying, the same thing goes for writing music. "Scribble it out" first with the AGO keyboard, then use your mouse and computer keyboard to edit.
You forget that Apple was on the verge of bankruptcy some years ago and only survived because M$ bailed them out?
How long will this meme kick around the internet?
It is ENTIRELY incorrect.
Here's the REAL story:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/...
That's a really a**hole thing to say to someone who has a close family member who is suffering from tremors. Shame on you.
You are entirely correct. Please accept my sincere apology for my unknowing gaffe and insensitivity.
No worries. To be fair, I chuckled a bit. :-)
You Insensitive Clod! ;-)
Seems is the operative word. The most common situation in which I see this happening is when I have to hit option and a far-off number key (e.g. 7) with the left hand between mouse clicks with the right. In that situation, it isn't the finger on the key that brushes the touch bar, but rather my middle finger, which has no safe place to rest. Yes, these sorts of chording behaviors are un-ergonomic as heck, but they make note entry fast as long as you don't have a touchbar popping open System Preferences all the time and taking you completely out of the app.
Perhaps you should adjust your "chording" a bit. I am really not trying to be snarky.
Absolutely, though it turns out to be easier said than done. The easier solution, albeit a partial one, was just to make sure the parts of the touchbar that my middle finger gets near when holding option-6 through option-8 with my left hand are blank. That at least makes it tolerable.
Ok.
A bit? I bought a laptop, not a desktop. I shouldn't have to use an external keyboard just because some engineer thought that putting a touch-sensitive strip less than an eighth of an inch from active keys was a good idea.
well, you can continue to bitch about the keyboard you can't change, or find a way to deal with it. But I think you are much more interested in the former "solution"
That's not a solution. At best it's a workaround, and isn't very practical when I'm not at home. The thing is, a lot of folks at Apple read Slashdot. Complaining about it might not solve the problem for me, but at least it might get somebody's attention who can solve it (whether through software or future design changes).
The biggest problem with the touchbar, honestly, is that the software that drives it is so underdeveloped. They provide support for app developers to customize it for a particular app, but they don't support letting users customize it for a specific app. (You can only choose between a few predefined sets or a single custom set.) If I could make the touchbar show nothing in Finale, show only the escape key in Terminal, etc. without fragile third-party hacks, it would be a lot less horrid. And the lack of touch sensitivity/glancing blow detection is just one of many examples of them shipping this hardware before the software was really ready.
I'd complain on MacRumors, too...
And to be fair, unless it has gotten a LOT better since I last dealt with it in 1988 or so (which is ENTIRELY possible!), Finale was not the most well-thought-out UI experience. Afterall, it is a high-end Music COMPOSITION and ARRANGEMENT tool; not "Performance" software.
Well, if my F key starts doubling up again (it did it for a week) I'll do that. Some of us actually work for a living, though, and don't have time to pester Apple for months until they cave in, then go entirely without the machine for 1-2 weeks for the repair. And yes, that's how long that repair takes because they have to send it out.
That's a BS excuse, and you know it.
Not only do you work at home; but, if you have time to write long epistles (some of your /. comments are LOOOOOONG!), you have the time to do a little pestering...]
Jus' sayin'... ;-)
Oh, and out of warranty it's a $750 repair. What did I say elsewhere in the discussion about replacing a Mercedes with a Fiat because you can do so for less than the cost of repairing the Mercedes and the Fiat will keep running if it gets a little dirty? Oh, yeah, it makes sense to do it, that's what I was saying...
That's why you need to have documented that you were Pestering BEFORE your Warranty expired!
Late 2016, though the early 2017 models are affected as well. The v2 keyboard is only on the late 2017 models.
Yeah, you probably need to start pestering Apple to swap out your case top Assy. With a "mid-2017" model.
That's a really a**hole thing to say to someone who has a close family member who is suffering from tremors. Shame on you.
You are entirely correct. Please accept my sincere apology for my unknowing gaffe and insensitivity.
Seems is the operative word. The most common situation in which I see this happening is when I have to hit option and a far-off number key (e.g. 7) with the left hand between mouse clicks with the right. In that situation, it isn't the finger on the key that brushes the touch bar, but rather my middle finger, which has no safe place to rest. Yes, these sorts of chording behaviors are un-ergonomic as heck, but they make note entry fast as long as you don't have a touchbar popping open System Preferences all the time and taking you completely out of the app.
Perhaps you should adjust your "chording" a bit. I am really not trying to be snarky.
A bit? I bought a laptop, not a desktop. I shouldn't have to use an external keyboard just because some engineer thought that putting a touch-sensitive strip less than an eighth of an inch from active keys was a good idea.
well, you can continue to bitch about the keyboard you can't change, or find a way to deal with it. But I think you are much more interested in the former "solution"
The right fix would have been to put the touchbar above the function key row, rather than replacing it. If almost nobody uses those keys (which is probably the case, with the exception of escape), then they would serve as an adequate buffer zone. But that doesn't fit the narrative of those being useless legacy baggage, so....
Well,that might be one solution, and my suggestion for Apple to "fix it in software", might be another...
Unfortunately, the Intarwebs have a way of amplifying negativity...
Yes they do, which is why I assumed this was less of a problem than it actually is and bought one of the affected machines. Live and learn, I guess.
Did you buy a 2016 or 2017 version?
Would you put a late 2017 MacBook Pro with a v2 in it on the line? I might take that action.
Yeah, I bet you would. But my research seems to be showing that I would probably win...
Yes, they're so good at materials and mechanical product testing that they specifically tested the iPhone 6 for bend strength and still had bending issues! Okay, okay, I'll grant you that they probably test their products quite well; that they truly suck at is acting on test failures so they don't happen in the wild.
When you have to be a pedant to make your argument, you truly don't have much of an argument to make.
Yeah, they're SO unresponsive to field-failures that they completely redesigned the keyboard for the 2017 MacBook Pro, and THOSE don't seem to be failing like the 2016 versions.
Everyone make mistakes; it's how they RESPOND to those mistakes that makes the difference between a crappy company like Dell, or a superior company like Apple.
I've been Googling for about a 1/2 hour to see if you can replace a 2016 MBP's keyboard assembly with the improved 2017 version. Powerbook Medic seems to allude that pretty much everything is interchangeable between the 2016 and 2017 MBP; so...?
Should Apple issue a Recall? Perhaps. Unfortunately, the Intarwebs have a way of amplifying negativity...
So I'm supposed to remove all latops and electonics from my house because I'm doing renovations? Oh no, nothing ELSE has a problem. My Thinkpads were dine, my audo equipment was fine. It's the Macbook that requires special treatment. Maybe that's why everyone is saying THIS IS A HARDARE DEFECT.
You THINK your Thinkpads are fine; but if they were "on" while that ceramic dust was flying-around, they won't be "fine" for long.
Same thing with your audio gear, if it has fans, and was "on" during the dust-events.
Nice way to deflect the fact that Apple apparently addressed the issue, at least going forward.
What good does that do for those of us who bought affected machines? And how can you still deny the issue while admitting that Apple has "addressed" it?
When will Apple address the issue for those of us who are actually affected by it? No, replacing the keyboard with the same piece of this that failed does not count. If the v2 truly are better, give us those if they're compatible; else, make a compatible v2 as a replacement for failed v1's. That would be addressing it, but Apple won't do that until after they lose in court.
Are you SURE that a keyboard that is replaced TODAY won't get the "v2" design? I would be willing to wager a bit that the v2 keyboard is a drop-in replacement for the 2016 "v1" model.
Yes, and I have my own recording studio. That doesn't mean either of us know what the fuck we're doing in those facilities. As an owner of one of the affected laptops (and a slew of other Apple gear dating back to a Mac Classic), I can say I probably know better what I'm doing in the studio than Apple does in their testing facility, today at least. They used to produce quality hardware, but that's become less true each year since Jobs passed.
You would be VERY wrong there.
The only reason I don't actually have a recording studio myself is money. I have some stuff; but certainly not enough to call a "studio" (nevermind having no dedicated space for same!). However, I have logged many hours behind mixing desks, both for live-mixing and multitrack recording, and a fair amount of time with various DAWs. I have been a pro audio enthusiast and expert since about age 16, and play about 4 classes of instruments.
And I have a slew of Apple gear dating back to an Apple 1. And everything in-between.
But I also know that it is hubris in the EXTREME to say that Apple doesn't know how to do materials and mechanical product testing. Sorry. You are DEAD wrong there.
3. You CAN disable the Touchbar in s/w. Have you tried this?
You mean he can disable the ESC and F-keys he just told you he actually needs in software? That seems super helpful!
Actually, I kinda doubt it's that big of a problem.
I Googled for about a half hour, and I only turned-up about two reports of this "Hyper-Sensitivity" he spoke of. I don't doubt he experiences it; but if it was THAT much of an issue, Apple would have released a Firmware/Driver update to adjust sensitivity by now. Something as simple as defining the "hot spot" as a much smaller zone, instead of the entire "button" rectangle, and/or requiring a longer press, and/or a "larger" press, immediately come to mind.
That article shows them testing the iPhone 6 for bending, yet they still had bendgate... They don't know what they are doing.
1. You have NO idea how much force was being used in that photo. ANYTHING will bend (or simply break!), given enough force.
2. "Bendgate" was OBVIOUSLY a farce. You'll notice how quickly it dissipated. If it had actually been a design or materials defect, there would have been Class Action Suits, people would STILL be bitching, etc.
and if they spend that much time at a desk, they have a desktop.
Except the "desktop" Apple makes is a trashcan with all the parts welded to the motherboard. No upgrading, no replacing bad parts. If something goes wrong or breaks, you have a multi-thousand dollar paper weight.
It's call "soldering", not welding, retard. And it is ESSENTIAL for all electronic assemblies.
Look into it.
Uh no, I'm not going to pay good money to solve problems on an expensive 'pro' machine that shouldn't be there in the first place. If Apple had recommended such a keyboard cover as part of a purchase, as a measure to make their laptops last in normal environments then I could have made an educated decision. But they don't do that, because then it would hurt their laptop sales. Honestly, I didn't even know keyboard covers existed and I think that is ridiculously complicated. I've always had Thinkpads and the keyboards have always been fine.
You weren't putting them in a CONSTRUCTION ZONE, RETARD!
OMG you're SUCH an entitled, incessant WHINER!
So I am supposed to only use my laptop in a clean room? We are renovating our hose and removed 1000 square feet of tile floor. I didn't have my laptop where it was dusty but all rooms had some dust. Am I supposed to have a special clean locker for my laptop?
Ah, NOW the truth comes out!
Not too many things more insidious and abrasive than ceramic dust...
Kiss anything with a FAN goodbye, moron!
You hit the nail on the head there. No company tells you the truth about longevity and there is no way to know until these laptops get old enough to experience issues. Totally unfair to blame the consumer for this.
And doofus, if you actually KNEW anything about product-design, you would understand that, NO amount of "destructive testing" which Apple most assuredly does, prepares the OEM for the "cleverness" of real-world users.
As an alleged software Developer, you should innately UNDERSTAND that.