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Apple CEO Says He Has Urged Trump To Address Legal Status of Immigrants; Also Told Him That Tariffs Are Wrong Approach To China (bloomberg.com)

Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television that he has criticized Donald Trump's approach to trade with China in a recent White House meeting, while also urging the president to address the legal status of immigrants known as Dreamers. From the interview: Cook said his message to Trump focused on the importance of trade and how cooperation between two countries can boost the economy more than nations acting alone. Cook met with Trump in the Oval Office in late April amid a brewing trade war between the U.S. and China. The Trump administration instituted 25 percent tariffs on at least $50 billion worth of products from China, sparking retaliation. In the interview on "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations," Cook acknowledged that previous trade policies were flawed but said Trump's move is also problematic. "It's true, undoubtedly true, that not everyone has been advantaged from that -- in either country -- and we've got to work on that," Cook said. "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

381 comments

  1. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I voted for Tim Cook for president and am glad his policies will now be implemented. /sarcasm

    WTF? Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done? I voted Trump in because Trump was going to do things I wanted. If Tim wanted his policies to be put into place, perhaps he should have run instead. What is it with liberals that don't run, or can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them. You all like to say the GOP needs to stay out of my bedroom, well the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Government policy shouldn't be either/or. Compromise and cooperation between BOTH sides.

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted for Tim Cook for president and am glad his policies will now be implemented. /sarcasm

      WTF? Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done? .

      Exactly. We've done a crappy job of dealing with China for a long time. He's just talking about it now because its the popular thing to do. Any criticism of Trump is is instant press these days.

    3. Re:Good by stealth_finger · · Score: 0, Troll

      Any criticism of Trump is is instant press these days.

      That's because he's the president and also because 99% of what he says is flat out fucking stupid.

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    4. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What world do you live in? In ours it doesn't matter who you vote for but how much money you stuff in his ass.

      Whores don't suck you for nice words or cheering for them, they suck you for greenbacks.

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    5. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What world do you live in? In ours it doesn't matter who you vote for but how much money you stuff in his ass.

      Whores don't suck you for nice words or cheering for them, they suck you for greenbacks.

      Not all politicians are part of the DNC.

    6. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The fact you believe there are actually "sides" and that those "two sides" need to cooperate says you've been snowed. It's all one big hodge-podge of power-hungry knob-slobbers that will do anything and everything to retain power. The less outward cooperation they show, the more likely the plebes will stay too riled up to notice we're all being bent over and fucked by those in power.

    7. Re:Good by squiggleslash · · Score: 1, Insightful

      well the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.

      Just to be clear, you're saying that if the FBI, CIA, and NSA finds compelling evidence that a hostile foreign power is interfering in an election, they shouldn't investigate it further if there's any risk at all that a Republican (Democrats apparently don't matter, I don't see you complaining about Comey's October Surprise) candidate might be benefiting from said interference?

      The FBI et al might have been investigating the links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the only campaign intentionally attacked was Clinton's. Did you forget that? The FBI even pretended they didn't see a link between the Russian campaign and Trump's.

      We have the worst President in history, which is a pretty impressive achievement given we had Bush only 10 years ago, and Nixon in the last 50 or so. That's thanks in part to the FBI smearing Clinton, and hiding key problems with Trump and botching the investigation so Russia could interfere. But sure, pretend the DNC is the problem.

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    8. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We should nationalize Apple and seize Tim Cook's assets. Slashbots shouldn't object. Slashbots (and Tim Cook by the way) purport to love socialism.

    9. Re:Good by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      There are two sides, just not the two you think were being discussed: the inside and the outside. Those inside the government should compromise and cooperate with those outside the government, lest they not be re-elected or, worse (for them) removed from office.

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    10. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no talking to you. Anything posted refuting what you say you will shrug off as lies.

      Most of what you said is not true. FBI pretending not to see the link? They create and leaked the link.

    11. Re:Good by TheZeitgeist · · Score: 0, Troll

      Not all politicians are part of the DNC.

      Only Democrat that people could find positive argument to vote for was Bernie - who isn't actually a Democrat, but did get thrown under the bus by...the DNC.

      And can't forget about the slush-fund scheme where local pols and fundraisers sent money up the chain to DNC which then could kick checks to Hillary and get around campaign limits. Getting around campaign limits by essentially hoodwinking their own supporters out of their money. So classy, so Hillary. So DNC.

      Now the DNC is broke in an allegedly 'wave' election year for Democrats. Throw in Debbie-from-Florida running DNC into the ground, them getting hacked, compromised server, and then not letting anyone (including FBI) ever see this compromised server. Just hapless. If one is a Democrat, or wants to run as a Democrat, stay away from DNC. It is kiss-of-death and has that Clintonian ethical-skunkiness all over it; like a washed towel left in https://apple.slashdot.org/sto... drier too long before drying, and DNC will have that patina for years until that place gets its own 'reset.'

    12. Re:Good by TheZeitgeist · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Just to be clear, you're saying that if the FBI, CIA, and NSA finds compelling evidence that a hostile foreign power is interfering in an election, they shouldn't investigate it further if there's any risk at all that a Republican (Democrats apparently don't matter, I don't see you complaining about Comey's October Surprise) candidate might be benefiting from said interference?

      What compelling evidence? That 'dossier?' The DNC server the DNC has never given to an outside entity (government or otherwise)? Maybe Stormy Daniels?

      Concocting narratives - even with the help of every 'official' institution in the land - to avoid the reckoning Democrats need to have just prolongs the pain. What reckoning is that? That the Democrats let themselves get hijacked internally and officially by Yankee version of Eva Peron and they lost - lost to a buffoon - because of that. Want to beat Donald Trump? Don't nominate Hillary Clinton. Want to beat the dog catcher in your local municipal elections? Don't nominate Hillary Clinton. Want to not need pliant FBI directors to avoid criminal indictments of your presidential candidate? Don't nominate Hillary Clinton. Want to avoid losing to an orange bombastic reality TV personality? Don't nominate Hillary Clinton. This is easy, Democrats just need to figure it out, have that reckoning, and move on. Blaming the Russians at this point is like a drunk blaming...anything other than stupidity of continuing to consume poison.

      Wake up Democrats

    13. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last couple years really have me rethinking Nixon. My mom told me the press hated him but we was still popular. Sounds familiar.

    14. Re:Good by fredrated · · Score: 1

      Do you like what you got?

    15. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.

      Well, at least they didn't collude with Russia.

    16. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's communism, not socialism.

    17. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they did. That's where the Steele dossier came from, paid for by Clinton and the DNC containing propaganda from Russia.

      That is why most of the country distrusts Muller, we KNOW Clinton colluded with Russia and he hasn't spent a minute looking into that. Muller is on a one man mission to destroy all credibility of the FBI/DOJ, and he is doing a great job at it. He is going to have to remove multiple indictments he has put out already, including one of a Russian company he says interfered with the election when the company didn't even exist at the time of the election. He is literally making shit up and hoping people don't call him on it.

    18. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      I notice you weren't concerned about the _proven_ Russian interference in our political process. Fucking traitor, you and the rest of the trumpsters.

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    19. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What needs to be done with China is the elephant in the room. Yes, they offer cheap labor and manufacturing because they do predatory practices with rare earths, but do businesses really want to be beholden to them in the long run? All it takes is a single edict, and a business is completely shut down, with all their people on Chinese soil arrested and headed for the organ banks. Google learned that the hard way. Facebook appears to be doing what they can to hand over info on anyone worldwide to the Chinese so they don't get tossed out of the PRC. Microsoft has handed all their source code to China in order to survive.

      Nobody has the balls to deal with this, and it has shades of the 1930s when nobody had the guts to deal with Germany until they decided that Europe was theirs.

    20. Re:Good by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      I don't think it should be up to an edict from the president, he's NOT there (supposedly) to create legislature or policy, but to enforce the laws the congress pass.

      Therefore, for the DACA or Dreamers, or anything involving immigration, it is up to CONGRESS to get off their asses and make laws, policies and fix what they can.

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    21. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of which commumism is a subset.

    22. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I like that you used "majority of citizens". You do realize that the majority voted for the Democrats, right?

    23. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Very very well said !

    24. Re:Good by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      Tim Cook is an influential and respected member of the community. He did help create lots of jobs and his decisions had impact on the economy on the order of hundreds of billions of dollars. He has seen and known far more than you or I in the area of tariffs and to a lesser degree immigration, therefore his opinion has far more weight than mine or yours (very likely -- can't say since you posted as AC, you could be Tim Cook).

      To a degree, Tim Cook is an elder in the community, so his opinions are worth considering, even by Trump, which I believe he does.

      That said, why post as AC? I support Trump as well. Let's stop this nonsense about hiding from supporting a legitimate president.

    25. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst President in history, who's been a warmonger, homophobe, and racist since he was born?

      That just ended the 70-year Korean War, appointed the first openly gay Ambassador to Germany, and received public praise from Kanye West, all in the same week?

      *That* terrible President?

    26. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm not concerned about the last _100_years_ of proven Russian interference in our political process.

      Because Russia is, economically, about as big as New York City.

      I might be concerned if we had a president who took his wife to Lenin's tomb for their honeymoon. But that was Sanders, so no worries.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    27. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      Maybe they were plugging away for 100 years, but this time they actually got their puppet installed. I'm definitely concerned that we have a Russian spy occupying the WH, but clearly that is not an issue for you.

      The Economy of New York City is nothing to scoff at as it would rank 12th if it were a nation, more than enough to keep the orange lawn gnome in its pocket.

      Since Sanders isn't president but does care about US human citizens, I'm not sure why you'd decide that he's some kind of threat to you. Unless you happen to be a large multinational corporations whose interests are at odds with Bernie's policies.

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    28. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In accordance with Poe's Law, I can't tell whether you're just pretending to be a Russian troll. What's your native language?

    29. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they did. That's where the Steele dossier came from, paid for by Clinton and the DNC containing propaganda from Russia.

      Which dossier are you referring to, the one started by the repugs?

      That is why most of the country distrusts Muller

      Most of the country distrusts Mueller? (At the very least, you could spell his name right, while you're spreading your Shillary/Killary propaganda). That's laughable. Trumps dwindling base most certainly does not constitute most of the country.

      Trump is on a one man mission to destroy all credibility of the FBI/DOJ

      FTFY

      He is literally making shit up and hoping people don't call him on it.

      You're actually claiming that Mueller uses Trump's tactics?

      Dude, when you watch Faux-"News", you really need to fact check their propaganda, so you can find out the whole truth.

      You must be a riot at parties.

    30. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Your on crack dude. But keep it up.

      Four more years!

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    31. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      You're on crack dude. But keep it up.

      Four more years of shit sandwiches for us plebes!

      FTFY

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      Only I can judge you.
    32. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have the worst President in history

      Citation needed.

      Bonus points for an irrefutable argument supporting the posit, considering Trump's term isnt even up yet.

    33. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      President Trump, say it chump. Get used to it.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    34. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And don't forget - "Storm's a comin', bitch!!"

    35. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      resident drupmft! resident drumptft chump! resident drumpft is a no-class chump!

      How's that?

      Every day I feel like I woke up in "Back to the Future II", so daily it is like living in bizarro land.

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      Only I can judge you.
    36. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Enjoy!

      I just thank god for the time travellers that turned the election. Too bad we can't do anything to help their dystopian timeline. Shooting Chelsea in this one wouldn't accomplish anything.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    37. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't end any wars. Who the fuck cares what Kanye thinks?

    38. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now we see the xenophobia inherent in the system!
      You bigot, you think that referring to Trump by his ancestor's European dead name is an insult? Bigotry, dead naming, xenophobia...

      It just goes to show you have no class, no decency, and are a total hypocrite for all of your moral preening.

    39. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      Enjoy?

      I'll survive this down period, not sure about the country, and especially the poor country folk who voted for drumpft and are some of the primary victims of his "policies".

      Hahaha! You're pretty deranged: you believe in multiple parallel universes. You are also a violent psychopath who would like to shoot an innocent ugly girl for no reason.

      Just to clarify, I am no fan of shillary and didn't vote for her and hate what her and the DNC did to Bernie. I voted for Jill Stein. Bernie would have destroyed drumpft in the general election... *sigh*

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    40. Re:Good by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Therefore, for the DACA or Dreamers, or anything involving immigration, it is up to CONGRESS

      Exactly. DACA was never authorized by congress; it was an Unauthorized initiative of the executive branch to discriminatorily delay some enforcement actions against SOME people illegally present while others would be subject to being deported.

      Options are either (A) Congress addresses this promptly, OR (B) Enforce the laws of this country as written and proceed to deport the "Dreamers".

    41. Re:Good by sarren1901 · · Score: 1

      So are you suggesting that world war 3 will start with China-Russia-Iran against US/Europe/Japan/Israel ? Not hard to imagine really. If Israel and Iran really get into a big enough war, whilst Russia attacks eastern Europe and China essentially takes Asia. Let's hope business will prevail over war. Better for everyone that way.

    42. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... your position is that CEOs should not be allowed to voice their opinions on public policy?

      Just curious, does this prohibition only apply to CEOs of successful companies, or would people like Donald Trump, prior to announcing his candidacy, also be silenced?

    43. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you actually believe that shit don't you? Does it feel odd having a skull filled with nothing but feces?

    44. Re: Good by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      Do you realize some people voted for trump because they agreed with only some of his views? For example, you may have disagreed with trump on all the social issues but still needed a tax cut so you vote for him. Second, just because people didnt agree with your viewpoint before doesn't make it wrong. A lot of people used to think the earth was flat .. nowadays a majority think its spherical. Yet nobody believes the Earth was flat and is now round.

    45. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see what you did .. you dehumanized the situation so you can hurt people. DACA is there to prevent deportation of people who may have grown up acclimated to US culture. Deporting them wouldnt help anyone though it may feel good to some of you.

    46. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are pathetic and I feel sorry for you.

    47. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is it with liberals that...can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them.

      Ummm...the 2016 popular vote count says otherwise

    48. Re:Good by DeVilla · · Score: 1

      I've found the only ones not legislating in Washington is the legislature. The president, the courts, random committees, commissions and administrative offices are making the rules. Random legislators will complain about what these others are doing, but it does irritate the legislature enough to make them actually work on legislation.

    49. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst President in history, who's been a warmonger, homophobe, and racist since he was born?

      That just ended the 70-year Korean War,

      How did he do that? Sat his fat ass on the site of Kim's nuclear facilities so it would collapse? Because that's why Kim is suddenly so soft spoken.

      And that's ignoring that the war is still far from over, you bloody moron. And even if there will be a peace treaty, Kim will sure as hell teat treaties with the US like Trump does - violate the hell out of them whenever he feels like it. Because that's what the world learns from Trump.

    50. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We should nationalize Apple and seize Tim Cook's assets.

      Well, it's Trump's only hope of ever getting his hands on a successful company.

    51. Re: Good by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      "What is it with liberals that don't run, or can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them."

      It has always been like that. They are educated and much smarter than everyone else. If you were that smart you would realize the wisdom in using the state to force humanity to do the right things.

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    52. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not concerned about the last _100_years_ of proven Russian interference in our political process.

      Because Russia is, economically, about as big as New York City.

      That's odd, considering how much the red states are afraid of New York City's influence on America's politics.

    53. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Bernie is unelectable. The Rs were voting for him, same as the Ds were voting for Trump.

      Once all the decent D's stepped aside for Hillary (her turn, vagina), it was over. An opportunistic socialist changing parties wasn't really helpful.

      In the parallel universe where Hillary won, Chelsea is the future emperor. Am I shitposting? You decide.

      Like I say, Enjoy they next 7 years.

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    54. Re:Good by losfromla · · Score: 1

      Trump is unelectable, yet here we are. Ds voted for drumpft because hillary sucked.

      An opportunist socialist is much worse than a former major Democratic donor finding jeebus and carrying water for the neo-nazis?

      In the parallel nightmare universe we're laboring in, Kush and Ivanka are the heirs apparent in the kleptocracy. Or whatever Putin decides they should do.

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    55. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The Ds can run Bernie next round. He'll be ancient, but so will Trump, if he runs.

      I mean, who do they got? Biden? The one from 'The Onion' sounds cool. I'd vote for that dude!

      I'm still hoping Trump triggers a both D and R, mutual dirt dump.

      In explicit words: I want the dirt that made the Ds back off Cheney AND the dirt the made the Rs back off Clinton. Plus the 100 years of dirt, these sibling political parties have on each other.

      You were once a teenager and had teenage sibs? Remember MAD? Nobody was snitching. That's the position of the DNC/RNC, above all else, they value stability. Don't think for a second that the RNC is on 'Trumps side' or vice versa. If the Ds had brains (and weren't scared shitless) they would exploit that. Set them to war with each other, like Sunnis and Shia. But Ds...all too busy calculating angles for themselves personally. The 'Hillary vacuum' being over.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    56. Re:Good by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Government policy shouldn't be either/or. Compromise and cooperation between BOTH sides.

      No! The reason there are sides is that on most issues, there are 2 (or more) options very much contrary to each other. Either one is for less government or more intrusive government. Either one is for higher taxes or lower. Either one is for legalizing illegal immigrants or against it. Either one is for expanding legal immigration or shrinking it. Either one is a nationalist or globalist. Either one is for US having a greater military role abroad or less. Either one is for popularizing abortions or against it.

      And that's why we have elections. So that the ideas that we support get implemented. There is no way that can happen if the party opposed to what I stand for gets elected. If the Dems win, I don't expect my taxes to go down. If the GOP wins, I don't expect a more intrusive government. Problem is that while we may be red on some issues, we may be blue on others, in which case, one has to weight each issue accordingly and then decide which party satisfies the sum total of what one supports

    57. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . If you were that smart you would realize the wisdom in using the state to force humanity to do the right things.

      Yes this is the basis for rule of law. We'll never know how good we had it before George Soros went back in time and erased all evidence of humanity's pre-law utopia. It's very strange.. try to find historical records before life with governments!
      OPEN UR EYES PEOPLE!! Be WOKE!

    58. Re:Good by Uberbah · · Score: 0

      I'm definitely concerned that we have a Russian spy occupying the WH, but clearly that is not an issue for you.

      Then you're as much of a partisan cultist as the Birthers who spent years insisting Obama was a Kenyan-born Muslim - and they had just as much evidence for their ideas as you do. FFS Trump has been far more confrontational with Russia than Obama ever was, but I suspect Russiagaters would still be calling Trump a "Putin Puppet" if he had ICBM's in the air, on their way to Moscow.

  2. Symptoms of insane people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    a) they think they can explain something to Donald Trump
    b) they tell you they explained something to Donald Trump
    c) they are Donald Trump

    If you have any of the above symptoms, seek medical help immediately (even if you're a stable genius)

    1. Re: Symptoms of insane people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      D) You endlessly fantasize and fixate on everything Trump does.
      E) You believe Russians, in concert with tens of millions of Americans, hacked the 2016 election to deprive Hillary Clinton of the presidency, of which she was ordained.
      F) You think that Trump won't be reelected in 2020 because the Democrats have learned nothing, and refuse to acknowledge the real reasons they lost.

    2. Re:Symptoms of insane people by fafalone · · Score: 1

      Plenty of sane people do b), just like lots of parents explain to their toddler that it's quiet time now; with about the same results... they might from time to time listen, and don't have any real comprehension of the reasons behind it.

    3. Re: Symptoms of insane people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you enjoy white knighting for trump?

      Somebody said something bad about mein leader, quick somebody reply with lies to make him look good. MAH LEADER needs white knighting.

  3. Tariffs have been a tool that works by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.

    Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.

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    1. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.

      Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.

      It is amazing how many people don't realize that's how Trump creates leverage. Even major news anchors don't indicate they have the slightest clue. They are so consumed with being mad they can't even think.

    2. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      And Trump is back-pedaling on his stance against Chinese company ZTE, right after the Chinese government agreed to back half the costs of a Indonesia project that will have a Trump branded golf course and hotels.

      So, basically, Trump is open to being quite clearly bribed by foreign governments.

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    3. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Spamalope · · Score: 1

      And that handling North Korea is best done with coordination with China so US policy towards both should and likely will be connected. i.e. US policy of aid to North Korea led to escalation instead of the promised resolution. Engaging China instead to apply coordinated pressure with the US towards reconciliation between the Koreas (i.e. don't repeat the thing that didn't work) will involve negotiating with China. The result may be trade concessions (possibly the ZTE thing). If you first impose tariffs your concession could be simply returning trade to its prior status. There are many advantages to cooperation with China on N. Korea. It makes possible (just speculating here) a deal where N. Korea normallizes relations with S. Korea and actually halts the nuke program (pinky swear this time) in exchange for sanctions ending and the US committing to halting any clandestine operations and taking military intervention off the table; China agrees to referee in both cases with US trade sanctions that'll be imposed (and the US getting directly involved again) if China doesn't actively do the referee job - while also offering the prospect of the US reducing forces in S. Korea over time if the hoped for improved relations bear fruit.

    4. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Trump is using them to drum up investment in his company's projects. See the $500 million he got from the Chinese government for exempting XTE from sanctions for trading with Iran and North Korea. Tariffs are an extortion racket for Trump.

    5. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation? A first source not "according to someone close to the matter" or "government officials". Give us evidence that could lead to a conviction.

    6. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by drik00 · · Score: 2

      Exactly! People don't understand the idea of negotiating through strength...

      As far as DACA goes, it's never reported ANYWHERE that Trump has repeatedly said he wants Congress to pass a law to address the DACA recipients because Obama's creation of DACA via Executive Order was unconstitutional. He didn't rescind DACA out of malice or hate, he did it because it was essentially an illegal action by his predecessor.

      On a side note, it's the Democrats that have blocked any legislative solution on DACA recipients because they want to use it as a tool in the upcoming elections.

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    7. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by drik00 · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's not a coincidence that Kim Jong Un agreed to meet with the S. Korean President and the U.S. President about a month after he made a personal trip to China, which was interestingly not too very long after Trump had put the pressure on China to do something about NK.

      They'll never give Trump any credit for anything, so this whole conversation is pointless. There's a group of people in this country who hate Trump more than they love their own country, and that's sad.

      And disclaimer: Trump is a douche, I know it, I couldn't even bring myself to vote for him over HRC, so I abstained out of disgust, but I try to be intellectually honest enough to give credit where credit is due.

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    8. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 0

      It is amazing how many people don't realize that's how Trump creates leverage. Even major news anchors don't indicate they have the slightest clue. They are so consumed with being mad they can't even think.

      Or the story authors and editors feeding the network talking heads don't want them to explain what Trump is doing to their audience. Explaining it would interfere with their agenda.

      Two things to remember about mainstream news:

      1. They get political power primarily by creating illusions in the minds of legislators. The latter are largely isolated in their capitols and disconnected from their constituents. So if the newsies can convince them their voters want something other than what they do want, they can swing their votes - both getting legislation they want and jeopardizing their opponents' reelection.

      They get it secondarily by creating illusions for the population: Using social pressure and learned helplessness to change their opponents' ideas or, if they won't change, to stop them from taking action to promote their own interests.

      2. The mainstream news networks are solidly in the camp of the Democratic Party establishment. This, including their deliberate lies and fabrications, was exposed by, among others, Wikileaks during the last presidential election.

      The mainstream newsies lost a LOT of their power as a result. (It is especially funny that their coinage of "Fake News", an attempt to pull the teeth of attempts to expose them when they lie, was turned on them and continues to marganilize their efforts.

      Things to remember about international politics at the head-of-state level:

      Much of international politics is a variant of the "Game of Chicken", where two people drive cars at each other and the first to turn away loses - but if neither turns they crash. To win, you must convince your opponent you're crazy enough to go through with it.

      At the head-of-state level this applies to war (brush, conventional, or nuclear) and all the "war by other means" relations (such as "trade war").

      The primary example is the doctrine of "Mutual Assured Destruction", appropriately abbreviated "The MAD doctrine": The claim is "If you use WMDs on us we'll nuke you into glass. If this sterilizes the Earth, so be it. So let's settle this without resort to nuclear, biologithe groundcal, or chemical weapons." This sounds crazy. But it works. International politics switched from World Wars to conventional once Nukes and MAD were in place.

      But for MAD to work the head-of-state has to LOOK both crazy enough to "push the button" AND rational enough to be willing to avoid it IF you come to a reasonable deal. Regan, for instance, was an expert at this. Trump appears to be another. (Sadly, Democrats usually aren't. It doesn't fit their ideology. This is part of why they tend to start and escalate wars.)

      The diplomatic efforts based on "tickling the dragon's tail" of nuclear was was called "Brinksmanship".

      Whatever else you might think about Trump, realize this: As a businessman, at the CEO level, he was able to turn about a million bucks of inheritance into several billion - more than a three orders of magnitude gain - by negotiating successful deals. Any bets on whether the "game of chicken" is in his playbook?

      Now he's applying this skill to international politics. Surprise! It seems to work there, too.

      Bargaining includes offers, counter-offers, and threats of what will happen if a deal isn't reached. There's lots of posturing as the parties work out what their potential partners will accept, what they'll give up, and what they'll trade away for something they want more. But most of these positions are being displayed for effect, rather than as set-in-stone will-happen promises.

      With all the leaks - and all the characterization of them as oncoming disasters - (thanks to the mainstream news media mentioned above), someone who believes these stories would be in a panic and not thinking straight. But it's just the discredited media operations trying to salvage their power by doubling-down. So the rest of us are not concerned.

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    9. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by jittles · · Score: 1, Informative

      Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.

      Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.

      He also walked away with a $500M loan from the Chinese government to build a resort in Indonesia. But you’re right, he totally did all of this to reduce China’s import tariffs on US products.

    10. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Whatever else you might think about Trump, realize this: As a businessman, at the CEO level, he was able to turn about a million bucks of inheritance into several billion - more than a three orders of magnitude gain - by negotiating successful deals.

      s/negotiating successful deals/engaging in fraud/ — from the beginning. The initial loans he got from banks were based on his misrepresenting himself as the owner of many of his father's assets.

      That he is good at weaseling out of legal trouble is not an asset in a president. What we'd like is one who doesn't get in legal trouble to begin with. One with a history of enriching others, not only enriching himself.

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    11. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got cause and effect mixed up. And a seriously warped concept of how "good negotiations" are supposed to work. First, Trump created tariffs on Chinese goods. The Chinese responded with tariffs of their own. Then Trump responded with more tariffs. And the Chinese responded with more tariffs. Trump responded by actions against ZTE. Trump then pre-empted the Chinese response by agreeing to not take action against ZTE if China would at least ease off on agricultural tariffs.

      At best, this is slowing trade war tensions. Both sides are using tariffs as a tool to get the other side to stop being such a dick in certain areas. Stop trying to spin this as some master plan Trump is using to win favorable trade with China. It's a stupid pissing contest that's not actually resolving any of the real underlying trade/power imbalances on either side.

    12. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by fafalone · · Score: 1

      But he's not negotiating through strength, he's negotiating from a position of lunatic-with-weapon. So the question is 'is this guy crazy enough to pull the trigger and hurt the hostage, knowing that the police will then open fire on him?'. It might work as they appease you until they find another way to neutralize the threat, but it seriously undermines everyones willingness to deal with the guy in the future.
      Your DACA comment is extremely disingenuous for 2 reasons. First, all his calls for Congress to do something for them come with unacceptable demands, that he likely knows are unacceptable, which allows him to pretend he's not against the program, and to fool people like you into thinking the Democrats are blocking it for reasons other than the attached conditions. And two, after everything he's done in his life, and all the executive actions he's taken, you're out of your mind if you think Trump gives the tiniest shit about the legality of the order.

      Why do otherwise intelligent people fall for party-line propaganda so hard?

    13. Re: Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment about Trumpâ(TM)s inheritance is hilarious. Had the money just been invested in a passive tracker, it would have grown more than Trump managed.

    14. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah....no he is doing it just like a business. He is playing hardball. Honestly, China needs to step back and change their approach. Cook needs to do the same. He needs to back Trump and push back on China. things like, let me yank production from China until they are willing to negotiate with Trump.

    15. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, it's not a coincidence that Kim Jong Un agreed to meet with the S. Korean President and the U.S. President about a month after he made a personal trip to China, which was interestingly not too very long after Trump had put the pressure on China to do something about NK.

      They'll never give Trump any credit for anything, so this whole conversation is pointless. There's a group of people in this country who hate Trump more than they love their own country, and that's sad.

      Ohh, but "we" will give Trump credit for the failure of the talks - because he is at fault for the failure that just happened.

    16. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in 2006, we voted Democrats into House/Senate in order to fix one issue: immigration. That's what they campaigned on. That's what they promised to do. That's what got them in.

      Trump would sign DACA if it included 30 billion for the wall. Only 30 billion, and it's not like the Dems give a fuck about spending other people's money anyways. Why would they oppose the bill legalizing 2 million DACAs (more than the 0.7 million they asked for, by the way)?

      They want to pander to the Hispanics, and to milk the immigration issue once again. They don't actually want to fix it. They had ample chances to fix immigration and help the Hispanics in 2007. They had their chance again for several more years in 2010-12: Dem House, and Senate, AND President. They did nothing. They fucked it up on purpose!

  4. Re:Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trump doesn't give a shit about any of that. As long as his ravenous fans/base think that way, that's what he will go for.

  5. Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by cogeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the CEO of a company that relies on low tariffs to justify outsourcing their products to be manufactured by forced child laborers has advised against raising tariffs on their products coming back into the country. Imagine that....

    1. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by ogar572 · · Score: 1

      This is one of those times where I need mod points...... you deserve all of them.

    2. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by geek · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Timmy needs to virtue signal to his base. That's all.

    3. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And M-Smash is right there to relay it to all the people who would like to actually see a story related to technology for once.

    4. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except these tariffs don't really affect Apple's products. The increased cost on their production, due to raw material costs, is equivalent to a rounding error...

      So perhaps there's some other angle. Shock.

    5. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      The increased cost on their production, due to raw material costs, is equivalent to a rounding error...

      So perhaps there's some other angle. Shock.

      So it's possibly humanitarian reasons he wants to continue to have his "products manufactured by forced child laborers"?

    6. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the rightwing's new talking point "virtual signaling". You parrot it well. Good boy. A quick way to dismiss anyone who questions the Trumptard's policies. It's all virtual signaling.

    7. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

      That is why I said above that we should nationalize Apple and seize Tim Cook's assets.

    8. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trumptard? i'm not a big fan of the guy, but using an ad hominem to prove a point is fairly counter-productive

    9. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by geek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      trumptard? i'm not a big fan of the guy, but using an ad hominem to prove a point is fairly counter-productive

      It's all they have. Logic, reason, tolerance and compassion left them long ago. It's all hate all day long now. I like to think every post like this gives a Republican his wings.

    10. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A person who takes actions which make them appear to have a virtue they do not is virtue signaling. Tim Cook claims to value the American economy, where his well-off customers are, yet outsources all the workers he can manage to China, where his downtrodden peasant workforce is.

      150 years ago Tim Cook would gladly be the sort of slave owner that claimed concern over people and protests stopping slavery would be bad both for the economy and the slave.

    11. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You want to tell me an iPhone or a MacBook (Pro) is manufactured by forced child laborers?
      And you actually are convinced about that?

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    12. Re: Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL hypocritical much? You guys invented the practice. We just use it sometimes.

      Republicans are probably the biggest hypocrites I know. Seriously. You are either brainwashed or brain dead. One of the two.

    13. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by cogeek · · Score: 1

      Hate to shatter your illusion as an i-Phile fanboy, but it doesn't take a whole lot of research to come to that conclusion:

      http://www.dw.com/en/foxconn-a...
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
      https://nypost.com/2017/11/21/...

    14. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Child labour != forced slave child labour.

      And Foxcon is a Taiwan company, not a Chinese one. Since those crimes are pointed out they work on rectifying it.


      "We recognize that full responsibility for these violations rests with our company and we have apologized to each of the students," the company said in the statement.
      Foxconn's announcement came after Chinese media and US-based rights organization China Labor Watch reported on the use of child labor at the Yantai plant.

      Emphasizes, mine.

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    15. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by cogeek · · Score: 1

      So much ignorance in this response I don't know where to start....

      1.) Any child labor is forced child labor. If they don't have the mental capacity to handle alcohol, consent to sex, own firearms, vote, join the military, then they don't have the mental capacity to agree to a 12x6 workday either. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/i...
      2.) Read up just a little bit on Foxconn, if you don't think that's force labor you're just sticking your head in the sand. Walled compounds, workers unable to come and go. High rates of suicide. The list goes on... https://www.theguardian.com/te...
      3.) Taiwan is as much a part of China as Puerto Rico is a part of the U.S.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Just stop trying to justify your continued purchase of Apple products to assuage your own guilty conscience. Or provide proof for any of your claims you've made so far. The one quote you provided has no reference, so I'll assume not just the emphasis is yours, but the words as well.

    16. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the CEO of a company that relies on low tariffs to justify outsourcing their products to be manufactured by forced child laborers has advised against raising tariffs on their products coming back into the country. Imagine that....

      Yawn. Are you actually pretending that the "child labor" wouldn't be completely legal if they worked in American agriculture - and where two years younger? Fuck you, you triple hypocrite.

    17. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I have no "assuage your own guilty conscience", moron.

      Show me a Taiwan link that Foxcon is using _forced_ child labour, then we can talk.

      Your point 1) is just nonsense anyway ...

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    18. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by cogeek · · Score: 1

      Typical liberal response. I've posted multiple links showing you proof of my statements, but you won't ever allow your opinions to be swayed by facts. I'm done responding to you, post all you want. Bye Felicia!

    19. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      English much, moron? Are you even capable or composing a coherent thought?

    20. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to shatter your illusion as an i-Phile fanboy, but it doesn't take a whole lot of research to come to that conclusion: http://www.dw.com/en/foxconn-a... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne... https://nypost.com/2017/11/21/...

      So there were a couple of almost 16 year old that posed as 16 year olds to get a job. That kind of "child labor" is common and legal in the US. Boycott US products!

    21. Re:Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Typical idiot response.

      First of all: I have no idea if I'm a liberal. Reading /. however I come to the impression that this is supposed to be an insult? Anyway, you failed.

      Your links are pointless. A single crime does not imply that a society is constantly committing that crime.

      Taiwan is a first world country like any in Europe, they have labour laws and child protection laws, like anyone else.

      You are an idiot.

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  6. Goobacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They took our jobs

    American companies executives should be heavily taxed for outsourcing. Let them hire who they want manufacture where they want but tax them where it matters. The executives

    1. Re:Goobacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tax executives? Are you insane? You can't tax executives. In fact, we should probably figure out a way to tax all the workers and then pass that tax back to the executives when their shitty decisions cause the entire business to fold and they have to jump ship to the next golden parachute.

      Oh wait!

  7. So what IS the right approach? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    When political opponents say that whatever their political rival is doing is the "wrong approach" but neglect to offer a realistic alternative, my ass begins to twitch.

    1. Re:So what IS the right approach? by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tim Cook probably has self-serving reasons to give this advice ... but still? I'd say the libertarian-minded stance would be the same; don't implement tariffs.

      The best alternative isn't a "quick fix" like most politicians are seeking. The long-term, best solution, involves encouraging U.S. based startups and small businesses to develop, and to perhaps a lesser extent, to provide some aid for mid-sized businesses too.

      If you impose fees on imported goods but your country doesn't offer enough comparable alternatives of its own that people want to buy instead, you wind up either A) punishing U.S. citizens by cutting off goods they want to buy, or B) causing the country doing the importing to mark up the prices of what they're selling to compensate for the higher taxes on bringing it in, while again ultimately making the American people cover that cost.

    2. Re: So what IS the right approach? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I'd say the libertarian-minded stance would be the same; don't implement tariffs.

      Theoretically... and 'all other things being equal,' sure.

    3. Re:So what IS the right approach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The long-term, best solution, involves encouraging U.S. based startups and small businesses to develop, and to perhaps a lesser extent, to provide some aid for mid-sized businesses too.

      No, the long-term best solution to fixing US trade deficit is for Americans to spend less and save more.

      Consider two countries A and B, both produced $100 worth of goods in a year. People in country A borrowed $30 more and spent $130 that year, people in country B saved $30 and only spent $70 that year.

      So where do the extra $30 worth of goods come from, if not from country B in the form of trade deficit??

      Right now, Americans is already getting the extra goods for the near-zero price of IOU. And you still wanted more?

      As long as Americans spend more than they produce, there will ALWAYS be trade deficit and debt, the difference is only which countries get the surplus.

    4. Re:So what IS the right approach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you impose fees on imported goods but your country doesn't offer enough comparable alternatives of its own that people want to buy instead, you wind up either A) punishing U.S. citizens by cutting off goods they want to buy, or B) causing the country doing the importing to mark up the prices of what they're selling to compensate for the higher taxes on bringing it in, while again ultimately making the American people cover that cost.

      You are talking about this in a vacuum, ignoring the fact that the country of which we are speaking currently has excessively high tariffs against the US in place along these same economic boundaries, and are artificially preventing the sale of American goods which would otherwise be more feasible and create more jobs and growth in those markets in the long term. Your "long term, best solution" is completely impractical on a global scale in such a lopsided arrangement. It is precisely this arrangement which is being attacked by Trump's policies.

      This is the same reason why Trump got elected - people only want to talk about what they want to talk about, and not all the things that actually matter, just like the pollsters only wanted to poll what they wanted to poll, which ended up not being all the things that mattered come election day. Trump's chaotic flailings are making his results much less predictable for the normal mouthpieces, and he is often proving their predictions wrong, which is both not so useful yet quite practical.

      Turns out we are living in interesting times.

  8. Who gives a crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who cares about Apple? I didn't vote for them. I voted for Trump. I don't agree with Apple's policies and dislike their products immensely. They are not elected officials and should stop pretending they have any authority granted to them.

    1. Re:Who gives a crap? by stealth_finger · · Score: 0

      ...I voted for Trump...They are not elected officials and should stop pretending they have any authority granted to them.

      As you voted for Trump, turns out you voted for his family and friends too. All his besties are the richest people so there you go.

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    2. Re:Who gives a crap? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Hopefully my "bestie" is a bit less publically critical of me then the friends you think Trump has

    3. Re:Who gives a crap? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1, Funny

      Trumps friend is whoever telling him he's awesome and handing him cash. Just look at what he does to his 'friends' when they stop being useful to him.

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    4. Re:Who gives a crap? by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      Trumps friend is whoever telling him he's awesome and handing him cash. Just look at what he does to his 'friends' when they stop being useful to him.

      Well, still...could have been worse.

      And, at least people that fall out of favor or usefulness to Trump don't generally mysteriously turn up dead shortly thereafter.

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    5. Re:Who gives a crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted for Trump for one single reason: His stance on islam. Islam is an affront to humanity. I'm pretty happy. The SJWs should learn to take their defeat.

    6. Re: Who gives a crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Islam is a bunch of SJWs now? Good to hear.

  9. Cook is wasting his breath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's brain is sufficiently ossified that he is completely refractory to any input that is even a bit different from what he already 'knows'. No matter how many times it is repeated or elaborated upon.

  10. Also told him, buy iPhones! by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    Also told him, buy iPhones!

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  11. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Exactly. Trump isn't a republican he is an opportunist.

  12. All the best deals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has made a lot of sycophants very rich and has philanthropically used Elizabeth Trumps fortune to feather a lot of lawyers nests. He has even used the family name to rack up spurious international debts to make even more people around him rich. He is a very clever (stable) genius.

  13. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you forget Trump was a major Democrat donor for 35 years?

    Did you forget that time Obama said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?

    Did you forget that time Hillary said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?

    Do you remember that time when they all pivoted when it became convenient for polling?

    I remember. Quit being a tribalistic cult member, you fucking imbecile.

  14. Wrong network Tim. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 0

    Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television ...

    You need to say it on Fox News and/or Hannity if you want a chance for Trump to hear you. Apparently, that's all he watches. (Google it)

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    1. Re:Wrong network Tim. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television ...

      You need to say it on Fox News and/or Hannity if you want a chance for Trump to hear you. Apparently, that's all he watches. (Google it)

      Or to put it another way, Cook is speaking to his comforting echo chamber.

  15. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I resent that. ;)

    He's mostly a populist. He'll tell you whatever you want to hear.

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  16. Well then by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    Well, that's lovely. Nobody voted for Tim Cook to implement his ideas on these things, so his political power to do so is zero.

    Unless Dems think that Cook should have lots of political power, because he sold lots of stuff and capitalism is great so that's kinda like people voting.

    If so, I await their heads exploding, like a 1960s sci fi robot caught in a contradiction ...

    1. Re:Well then by avandesande · · Score: 1

      or that great scene in movie 'scanners'

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    2. Re:Well then by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Unless Dems think that Cook should have lots of political power, because he sold lots of stuff and capitalism is great so that's kinda like people voting.

      [The vast majority of] Democrats and Republicans alike will do whatever he wants if he contributes enough to their campaigns. That's what capitalism is all about!

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  17. Why indeed. by Comboman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done?

    How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies? I suppose you'd rather take economic advice from a senile reality-show host and real estate con-man who had to declare bankruptcy multiple times.

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    1. Re:Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about we take what he wants re: China with a grain of salt because the company he's the CEO of does a lot of manufacturing there and, of course, he doesn't want tariffs as those affect his bottom line?

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    2. Re:Why indeed. by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You forget that Apple was on the verge of bankruptcy some years ago and only survived because M$ bailed them out? Cook just inherited Job's revival, they've had nothing really new or good since Job's died. Cook is nothing special.
      Also, 4 businesses (out of over a hundred), temporarily going into bankruptcy to reorganize, I think 3 of which were casinos, which at the time were all doing poorly across the country, is not really that horrible of a track record.
      All politicians are con-men when you think about it. Hillary sure is; and Bernie is more senile than any of them.

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    3. Re:Why indeed. by Daemonik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about no,exactly because he IS a CEO? He could give two squirts what happens to the rest of the US, as long as Apple's shareholders (including himself) continue to warm their asses with the giant pile of offshored cash Apple has, and the trade policies he wants are what will help Apple, not you.

    4. Re:Why indeed. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 3, Informative

      You forget that Apple was on the verge of bankruptcy some years ago and only survived because M$ bailed them out?

      How long will this meme kick around the internet?

      It is ENTIRELY incorrect.

      Here's the REAL story:

      https://www.zdnet.com/article/...

    5. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Apple didnt get Microsoft Office due to court ruling then Mac's would have done a lot worse, and Apple probably would not have the capital to create the iPod/iPhone.

    6. Re:Why indeed. by chispito · · Score: 1

      How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies? I suppose you'd rather take economic advice from a senile reality-show host and real estate con-man who had to declare bankruptcy multiple times.

      Is 'neither' an option?

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    7. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cook ... a gaffot globalist marketing shill. Successful? Yeah like an HIV infected hooker is successful in generating new patients for her brother-in-law the cancer doc.

    8. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      President Trumps net worth is 3.1 Billion dollars. He owns over 530 companies and only 4 of them filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Chapter 11 does not mean the businesses was a failure. If anyone i'd take economic advice it would be from Trump. He has the experience and he has been in the trenches. No wonder he was elected President. Tim Cook did not create Apples success nor will anyone remember him when he steps down.

    9. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Abraham Lincoln totally should have taken the advice of the largest plantation owners in 1861. Listening to them would have averted the economic disaster that occurred over the next four years.

      Word verification: ovaries (?!)

    10. Re:Why indeed. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies?

      He didn't make Apple successful, and Apple has clearly lost any pretense of direction under his leadership. That won't actually harm them for ages because they have all the money they need for the foreseeable future, but it's not clear that he has anything insightful to say about anything.

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    11. Re:Why indeed. by Comboman · · Score: 1

      Successful businessmen don't create over a hundred businesses. That's what fly-by-night con artists do to prevent the lawsuits and failures (Trump University? Trump Stakes?) from taking down the few accidental successes (also a good way to funnel/launder money).

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    12. Re: Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Let me guess. You got your info from The Trump News Network. TNN. Pitiful you have to lie so hard for your master.

    13. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we take what he wants re: China with a grain of salt because the company he's the CEO of does a lot of manufacturing there and, of course, he doesn't want tariffs as those affect his bottom line?

      Sure. So you'd rather the PotUS listen to the CEO of ZTE, a Chinese company that got in trouble for violating the embargoes against both Iran and North Korea. MAGA!

    14. Re:Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Yes, since it's entirely impossible for him to not listen to either Cook or Cheng, that's entirely what I meant. Good on you for putting that together.</sarc>

      Seriously, think about the words you just fucking typed, there. Do you think Cheng would want tariffs? Or do you think that neither Cheng nor Cook want the tariffs, so listening to one is, for all intents and purposes, the same as listening to the other? Where's your head at and how do you deal with the smell?

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    15. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they bothered to pay any tax in America, Apple's opinion would hold more weight. Apple is parasitic on its host countries.

    16. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Curious how many illegals live in Cook's neighborhood.

    17. Re:Why indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck no. Trump has nothing to do with immigration. That's the job of Congress. Trump can't do didly crap about immigration.

      The whole immigration thing has been sitting on Congress's plate for over 6 years now. What Cook needs to do is call his Congressman and speak with them and get them to fix the immigration issues.

    18. Re: Why indeed. by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Do you? Tariffs on $1000 phone is higher than a $200 phone. A 20% increase in price for ZTE is easier to deal with than 20% on an iPhone. As long as the Tariffs were against everyone, it would be an advantage for ZTE. Now, you think about how stupid what you typed was.

    19. Re: Why indeed. by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Oh shit! He capitalized some words, so he's gotta be right. Fucking annoying.

    20. Re: Why indeed. by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Is that number confirmed by tax returns? Some day he'll have to answer about lying to the public or the IRS. I'd say if he wasn't president, he would have been iced from the billionaires club ages ago once they learned how he scammed Forbes all those years.

    21. Re: Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Actually, if the tariffs applied equally to everyone, which they likely would, it's an advantage for nobody. It would be a 20% increase across the board and people who would buy an iPhone will still buy an iPhone; nobody is switching from iOS to Android, let alone from flagship phone models to bottom of the barrel, over $160.

      And, before you point out that 20% of $1000 is $200, realize that 20% of $200 is $40 and you have to account for that. The price difference between the $1000 phone and the $200 phone is $800; between the $1200 phone and the $240 phone is $960, a $160 relative increase.

      Amortized over the two year typical life of a smartphone (though I keep hearing that iPhones last longer, I rarely see older models out there so we'll go with two years), that's less than $7/mo. Not enough to make anyone jump ship, especially when they'd have to re-buy all of their apps.

      So, please, tell me again, how stupid was what I typed?

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    22. Re: Why indeed. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Oh shit! He capitalized some words, so he's gotta be right. Fucking annoying.

      Indeed you are.

      Why not address the merits of my argument, rather than how closely I have adhered to your personal style manual?

    23. Re: Why indeed. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      My family's iPhones were in use for 3 years minimum, with 2 hitting 6 years. Wound up replacing about 60% at 4 years, mostly because of people dropping them too many times. That means we skipped from 5/5S all the way to 8's.

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    24. Re: Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Your one data point qualifies as "rarely"...

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    25. Re: Why indeed. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's 14 data points... we also have a couple of Android users. They do replace their phones on average every other year.

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    26. Re: Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Still qualifies as "rare", though. I never claimed it never happens.

      That said, the phones lasting longer actually lowers the amortized monthly increase in TCOO, further strengthening the point I was making, so, thanks, I guess?

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    27. Re: Why indeed. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Still qualifies as "rare", though. I never claimed it never happens. That said, the phones lasting longer actually lowers the amortized monthly increase in TCOO, further strengthening the point I was making, so, thanks, I guess?

      You're welcome? I was just reinforcing that the iphones do appear to last longer, in general, and that a 2 year lifespan for these phones isn't realistic since the 4, really. To be perfectly fair, I strongly suspect the Samsungs will start lasting longer as well, probably with the 8 series. There were a few quality control issues with the 7's, and too many updates/changes from the 6 and before, at least IMHO.

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  18. Dreamers by bigpat · · Score: 1

    It seems that currently the issue that prevents Dreamers from applying for legal immigration is the question on the immigration forms that requires people to declare if they came to the US illegally in the past and spent time in the US illegally and are subject to 3 or 10 year bans ... Seems the simplest solution is to just update the form and regulations to specify that it only applies to time you were in the US illegally when you were over 18 years old. If you came before you were 18 then you were a child and not legally responsible as an adult and shouldn't be penalized...

    You shouldn't be given special benefit over people that followed US immigration law, but kids under 18 shouldn't be penalized for their parents mistakes. That means when you turn 18 you would have a few months to apply for a legal immigration status before the penalties kick in. For current dreamers I would think that there should be some discretion for people to initiate some legal immigration process if you have complied with the dreamer program requirements up until now.

  19. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by thunderclees · · Score: 0

    The problem was that there was no alternative, Democrats have more to do with Trump being in the Whitehouse than Republicans do.

  20. "Analytical kinds of things" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

    Heh.

  21. Re:Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by nomad63 · · Score: 0, Troll

    And rightfully so. Previous administrations have heard a lot from the special interests of businesses before and acted accordingly. This administration is different and it is about damn time.

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  22. flashback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are not elected officials and should stop pretending they have any authority granted to them.

    Same idiot, 2 years ago...

    Obama is a socialist. He needs to listen to the corporate CEOs that are the real job creators.

    1. Re:flashback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being that incorporation is incompatible with a free market economy, your supposed contradiction would actually be a correct statement.

      Huge FAIL on your part.

  23. Analytics? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

    Using logic and math on Trump is like buying Nike gift certificates for fish.

  24. Protecting rice bowl. by biggaijin · · Score: 1

    A company whose business model is to build products with cheap overseas labor and then sell them for inflated prices in the US does not want any tariffs imposed to cut into their profit. Imagine that. Obviously they have all of our best interests at heart.

  25. Who does he think he is ? by nomad63 · · Score: 1

    I mean, c'mon. There are apple fanboys but their numbers are not enough to catapult this idiot into anything or anyone who would have a say-so about how the country is administered or how the economy runs. He has a grandeur vision of himself. May be has one of those funny mirrors in his office making him look like much bigger than he is and he started believing it.

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    1. Re:Who does he think he is ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May be has one of those funny mirrors in his office making him look like much bigger than he is and he started believing it.

      Nah, he just has a ratty old pair of jeans and a worn out turtleneck he dresses up in late at night in his office.

    2. Re:Who does he think he is ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who does he think he is ?

      He is a citizen of the United States, exercising his First Amendment right. Get over it.

    3. Re: Who does he think he is ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your sneering would be a tad more effective if you knew the difference between grandeur and grandiose.

  26. Opportunist knocks by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    Of course Cook is going to say these things as they both serve his own interests.
    His taxes are very low because he has access to the many tax shelters and loopholes only available to the rich and so he is not going to pay for the welfare and other giveaways that criminal aliens enjoy
    He also will never live next to them in his lily white bread, walled estate in California.
    That is to say he can afford his point of view.

  27. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 0, Troll

    Nah, that was Hillary (ref the SNL skits). Trump's been saying stuff a LOT of people don't want to hear, even republicans.

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  28. I wish Steve Jobs was still alive by shm · · Score: 2

    He'd have stayed focussed on creating new interesting products at Apple.

    And he definitely wouldn't have used wishy-washy terms like "problematic."

    1. Re:I wish Steve Jobs was still alive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Steve Jobs may have been difficult but he did care about making great products, not SJWs. I wish someone would Make Apple Great Again

  29. Trump does not have authority to address legal s by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.

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  30. Hello, did you read nothing??? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    And Trump is back-pedaling on his stance against Chinese company ZTE

    It's not called back-pedaling you moron, it's carrot and stick. He used the stick and him "generously" helping ZTE is the carrot, only now the new ZTE will behave - and be grateful to Trump for having been punished!

    Do you seriously not see how this works???

    right after the Chinese government agreed to back half the costs of a Indonesia project that will have a Trump branded golf course and hotels

    Isn't it refreshing to have a president who gets kickbacks out in the open instead of through shell companies?

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    1. Re:Hello, did you read nothing??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they knew how it works, they would have done it instead of whatever kowtowing both the D's and R's have done since Nixon.

      The only reason they denegrate the player is because they don't understand the game, or the rules. They all want to give each other handys in Washington when out in the real world it's dog-eat-dog... even literally in China.

      Anyway, everyone should look at the Tariff schedule at https://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/index.htm

      Ever wonder why US doesn't have the Toyota Hilux or VW Atlas. Thank a tariff. Protect GM and Ford at all costs.

      captcha bamboo. heh.

    2. Re:Hello, did you read nothing??? by hackingbear · · Score: 2

      He used the stick and him "generously" helping ZTE is the carrot, only now the new ZTE will behave - and be grateful to Trump for having been punished!

      That's your biased wishful thinking perhaps. He may well backdown because China imposed tariff on American agriculture products, hurting his and Republican's support base.

    3. Re: Hello, did you read nothing??? by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Holy shit, you drink all kinds of Kool-aid. Something must be tainting your water supply.

  31. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by thunderclees · · Score: 2

    Actually, he could do a lot with executive orders, Obama acted like a king with them.

  32. Re:Results by JackieBrown · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's the loud folks on the internet that have no respect for the US. The thing is, they didn't before Trump either.

  33. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Type44Q · · Score: 1, Informative

    God damn. Well done.

  34. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Executive orders are a power granted to the POTUS by an act of Congress. Get over it. All of you.

  35. fsck that by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    Apple can't even make a goddamn keyboard properly these days. I trust them even less w/ politics.

  36. Re:Results by stealth_finger · · Score: 0, Troll

    Any criticism of Trump is is instant press these days.

    That's because he's the president and also because 99% of what he says is flat out fucking stupid.

    While that may be true, you can't argue with results.

    (And no, the world isn't losing respect for the US because of Trump. If anything the world is treating us with *more* respect because they see that we no longer back down and take whatever shitty deals they give us.)

    What results? Removal of healthcare, tax breaks for the better off, banging porn starts and paying them off, making it so anything negative is fake news, the wall? No mate, the rest of the world IS losing respect for you because they see you don't give a fuck about anyone else anymore. When did the US accept whatever shitty deals were given to them? All deals are a meeting of compromise and America has shown she is no longer willing. When you start slinging its our way or the highway about you'll be surprised how many people will let you go. You might be able to get a good deal out of the UK though because we've fucked ourselves so hard that we'll probably literally be begging for it, but that isn't out of respect.

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  37. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pepperidge Farm remembers...

  38. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but that was deemed to be a prickish thing to do.

    Funny that, Obama went through more executive order forms than rolls of toilet paper...

  39. Why take advice from him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump is a more successful businessman then this Apple CEO, why would he take advice from him? Trump knows what he is doing, just sit back and know that Trump is a winner.

    Hay Apple. Hire Americans!

    1. Re: Why take advice from him? by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure Tim Cook would win over Trump in an election.

    2. Re: Why take advice from him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doubtful

  40. Sounds like he wasted his time by Johnberg · · Score: 1

    " and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why." And I'm sure Donald was able to comprehend none of what Mr. Cook tried to explain to him.

  41. I agree, tariffs are the wrong approach to China. by pecosdave · · Score: 3, Interesting

    However China doesn't think that tariffs are the wrong approach to the U.S. Nor do they think intellectual property theft is a problem. In fact the tariffs Trump has levied are still tiny in comparison to the ones China has on us, they just seem bigger (an in raw, no percentages taken into account it does mean more money) due to the huge trade imbalance.

    As a libertarian I'm against tariffs.

    I'm also against slavery, and to one degree or another China engages in it. I would argue the income tax system is slavery to, so the U.S. engages in it, but it's a matter of degree, many non-libertarians would argue by their measuring sticks that the U.S. does not engage in slavery through income tax but China still enslaves their people by the same measure.

    I don't think tariffs are the right approach, but we are playing a game where China has established the way they're playing that game. It's up to us to play with the rules they have established in mind, and our president has chosen to answer in kind, in percentages that are smaller than the ones they've presented against us. I can't fully fault Trump for his approach. My general approach to someone not playing by a rule set I agree with is to take my ball and go home, and I agree that probably isn't the right approach in this case.

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  42. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by gnick · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Trump's been saying stuff a LOT of people don't want to hear

    Only his most unhinged comments go against what his friends at Fox want to hear.

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  43. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can we stop with this nonsense?

    Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland:
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/

    Trump so far is on course to sign far more.

  44. Analytical? by sjbe · · Score: 2

    "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

    Yeah and Trump is just all about being analytical instead of shoot from the hip reactionary. The guy has the attention span shorter than my puppy and has to have pretty pictures in his presentations to hold his attention. Analytical isn't going to convince him of anything. Flattery might...

    1. Re:Analytical? by geek · · Score: 1

      "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

      Yeah and Trump is just all about being analytical instead of shoot from the hip reactionary. The guy has the attention span shorter than my puppy and has to have pretty pictures in his presentations to hold his attention. Analytical isn't going to convince him of anything. Flattery might...

      Lots of billionaire reactionaries eh? Here is a hint, if you don't understand it and the other guy is far more successful than you, perhaps he just knows shit you don't? That would be too easy of a conclusion though and wouldn't feed your ego I guess.

    2. Re:Analytical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, analytical might be Cook's forte, but Trump is all about the alt-facts, aka "lies".

      Maybe offer to pee on Trump? Not Cook personally, but some of those buxom women for hire that Trump likes...

    3. Re:Analytical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of billionaire reactionaries eh? Here is a hint, if you don't understand it and the other guy is far more successful than you, perhaps he just knows shit you don't? That would be too easy of a conclusion though and wouldn't feed your ego I guess.

      That from a guy who keeps whining about Soros.

  45. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

    Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.

    This is quite true, but surely you know the reason why he's doing this. And it's not because it's the right thing to do or he loves the US Constitution or he respects separation of powers or whatever. He knows that Congress is so dysfunctional that it will simply never reach a deal and that Republican members of the House are running for re-election locally on racially charged anti-immigration platforms that play well in the small towns that Republican districts mostly contain and they'll quite simply never approve a deal. This enables Trump to claim it's not his problem to solve, and he is technically correct, but it's also so he can pin the blame on Congress if it becomes convenient for him to do so. He's definitely not doing this because he wants a solution.

  46. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    I've been pointing this out forever:nobody with any sense voted for either one of these losers; they merely voted against the other loser... and although I couldn't decide whether a swift kick in the balls or a chewy bite of shit sandwich sounded better, I concluded that 'stupid and angry' might be a safer bet than 'articulate but evil.'

  47. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you forget that time Obama said homosexuality was wrong

    Obama never said that. He said that he didn't believe gay marriage to be right - while still supporting gay civil partnerships. There are even some gay people who don't believe in gay marriage (because they don't think marriage has been a very positive thing, even for heterosexuals).

    Did you forget that time Hillary said homosexuality was wrong

    Please show evidence that she ever said that.

  48. Re:Results by gnick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Removal of healthcare

    Only for people who can't afford it.

    tax breaks for the better off

    It's going to cost DJT a fortune. He said so.

    banging porn starts and paying them off

    You're supposed to pay porn stars after banging them.

    making it so anything negative is fake news

    With so much negative DJT coverage, what other explanation is there but it being fake?

    the wall

    Mexico's paying for it; I don't see what the problem is.

    MAGA!

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  49. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by fredrated · · Score: 0

    Compared to the destruction of America that Trump is engaged in, your points are pathetic.

  50. Re: Results by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    banging porn stars

    Banging skanky pornstars, no less. "Unimpressed!"

  51. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the rest of the world IS losing respect for you because they see you don't give a fuck about anyone else anymore.

    When the rest of the world sets an unmockable example, then let's talk. Until said time, damn right we don't give a shit about the rest of the world holding their friggin' hands out all the time asking us for alms.

  52. No bias here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Apple has an angle with this advice, but I can't put my finger on it...

  53. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >stupid and angry

    ... will cause a lot of extra deaths in the middle east.

  54. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's funny. Obama runs most of the race and then hands Trump the baton when he's a few steps away from being first at the finish line. Then Trump crosses the finish line and you hyperpartisan asshats give Trump the credit. Anyway, fuck you.

  55. Wrong by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Informative

    https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...

    Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.

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    1. Re:Wrong by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...

      Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.

      Perhaps a little self-aggrandizement?

      I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.

      So, who really knows?

    2. Re:Wrong by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.

      HP bought Compaq for $25 billion... in stock... in HP. At a time when they were contracting in every market... Remember when HP had their own architecture? Remember when HP was a trusted name in PCs? Remember when you wouldn't even think about buying a printer from anyone else, before they went DRM-crazy? Pepperidge Farms remembers. That was back when you had to hand-crank your ice cream.

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    3. Re:Wrong by sexconker · · Score: 1

      But that doesn't fit the Apple narrative.

    4. Re:Wrong by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      I have also heard at other times that, even in their darkest hour, Apple had enough cash-reserves to buy Compaq Computer Corp. outright.

      HP bought Compaq for $25 billion... in stock... in HP. At a time when they were contracting in every market... Remember when HP had their own architecture? Remember when HP was a trusted name in PCs? Remember when you wouldn't even think about buying a printer from anyone else, before they went DRM-crazy? Pepperidge Farms remembers. That was back when you had to hand-crank your ice cream.

      I remember ALL of that!

      That's why I will NEVER get rid of the HP 4m Printer with a whopping 8k copies on it(!!!!!) that I got for TEN DOLLARS at a Salvation Army store!

      Wanna guess how long THAT printer will last at typical "home" duty cycle?

      And thanks to Apple's acquisition of CUPS, I didn't even mind when the LJ's PostScript ROM board took a shit. I just started using it as a regular LJ4 (WAAAY faster that way, anyway!)...

    5. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...

      Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.

      Yeah - only that was a year before Gates "saved" Apple, you bloody moron.

      Of course that's ignoring that Jobs actually fibbed to downplay Gil Amelio's role in saving Apple.

  56. Shut up Tim Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Apple doesn't need you... they've survived despite your leadership
    2. Every new project under you is a failure... touchbar - no one wants it... soldered components ... no none wants it... new iPhone sales... disappointing... New MacBooks disappointing.
    3. There's a class action lawsuit against Apple over keyboards.... seriously???? Apple can't make a proper fucking keyboard under your leadership.

    Instead of talking about Trump how about you get your shit in order.... and probably quit Apple before you destroy it you incompetent twat.

    1. Re: Shut up Tim Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iPhone X was the best selling phone on earth every week since it launched. Apple owns the top 4 best selling phones for the first time in their history. Please tell me more about them not selling.....

  57. You really know nothing about the GOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very few people in party leadership, or elected officials, or even activists, are Christian conservatives. And Trump certainly isn't a Christian conservative. The values voter went out the window after George W. Bush.

  58. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The destruction of America???? Are you fucking retarded? Or are you just a dishonest Trump-hating piece of shit? America is running just the same as it always has... so your point is just plain wrong.

    You are exactly like those anti-brexiters... crying about the destruction brexit will cause... you know what happened??? FUCK ALL!!!!

    Go jerk off to HIllary you SJW cuck.

  59. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Put some data against all that.
    Withdrawal from TPP = It'll cost to get back in, the pacific nations moved on without us.
    Withdrawal from Paris = We'll be paying EU for carbon credits in future when we come crawling back. Can't fake basic physics, the earth is warming and we are to blame.
    Ending the Korean war = Not yet it isn't. We don't yet know what North Korea is asking. Just wait for the bait a switch to China at the end of this.
    Kickstarting the economy = LOL! Take a look at the "post obama" stock market, it's all over the place since exactly 1 year after Trump inherited it. It's been the WORST quarter in 5 years.
    Bringing jobs back = Carrier has moved, Harley has moved. What are you on about?
    Lowest unemployment ever = Greatest inequity ever

  60. Two sides: the State v the People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those are the only two sides.

    The State, including its perpetual bureaucracy, contractors, lobbyists, politicians, major donors from connected crony corporations, and influencers who seek to wield state power against their personal enemies

    The People, including those who work normal jobs, keep to themselves, own businesses that just try to sell an honest product/service without government cronyism, and otherwise just want to be left alone to pursue their goals and live peacefully

  61. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's been saying stuff a LOT of people don't want to hear, even republicans.

    Trump's been saying a lot of things Republicans want to hear. The problem is he says it openly and the rank and file Republicans love him for it, which makes it hard for the top brass to pretend their followers aren't racist shitheads, thus making it ever harder for that brass to maintain the self-delusion that they're committed idealists rather than cynical demagogues using racism and resentment to keep the lower classes divided and weak, all in service to the 1% who care about nobody and nothing except their bank accounts.

    It would be funny to watch if the whirlwind they're reaping didn't hurt other people.

  62. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by geek · · Score: 0

    Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.

    This is quite true, but surely you know the reason why he's doing this. And it's not because it's the right thing to do or he loves the US Constitution or he respects separation of powers or whatever. He knows that Congress is so dysfunctional that it will simply never reach a deal and that Republican members of the House are running for re-election locally on racially charged anti-immigration platforms that play well in the small towns that Republican districts mostly contain and they'll quite simply never approve a deal. This enables Trump to claim it's not his problem to solve, and he is technically correct, but it's also so he can pin the blame on Congress if it becomes convenient for him to do so. He's definitely not doing this because he wants a solution.

    Since you're psychic, can you tell me what the weather will be like tomorrow?

  63. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill and Hillary went to Trump's wedding.

    Let that sink in for a minute.

  64. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

    But, as proved by the fact that the issue has come up, he cannot actually resolve their legal status. Obama tried resolving their legal status by executive order (after stating repeatedly that he did not have the authority to do so), yet here we are.

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    The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
  65. As if they needed an excuse? by mpercy · · Score: 1, Informative

    It seems to me that an awful lot of folks in the Middle East just want to keep killing each other and will use any excuse to justify it. Trumps move (which actually is a negative move, in that he simply chose to not renew a waiver to the 1995 law requiring the US embassy to be in Jerusalem, thereby letting the law and its consequences play out) is just today's excuse. ISIS making Genghis Khan seem tame...Sunnis and Shias are trading suicide bombings in mosques...Taliban lashing out all over...

    "Militants from the Pakistani Taliban have attacked an army-run school in Peshawar, killing 141 people, 132 of them children, the military say.

    "In Kabul, a suicide bomber killed at least 39 people and injured 45 more when he detonated his explosives among some 100 worshippers in a Shia mosque in the western part of the capital, according to the interior ministry. Some of the victims were reportedly shot after the blast on Friday evening.

    "In central Ghor province, a suicide bomber killed 33 worshippers in a Sunni mosque, purportedly targeting a local commander from the anti-Taliban Jamiat party, said police spokesman Mohammad Iqbal Nizami.

    "The most horrific incident was over the weekend in Baghdad where an ISIS suicide car bomb targeted the Karrada shopping area, killing over 175 people including numerous children. One moment Muslim families were shopping and socializing after breaking the Ramadan fast at sundown. The next, entire families were gone in a blink of an ISIS bomb. The blast targeted a primarily, but not exclusively, Shia neighborhood. But if you think ISIS hesitates at slaughtering Sunni Muslims, you simply don’t know what ISIS has been up to the past few years. The group has brutally murdered countless Sunni Muslims, including three women who reportedly refused to treat ISIS fighters and others who refused to pledge allegiance to ISIS. ISIS even reportedly killed three imams “for failing to praise ISIL in their sermons.”

    "Four suicide bombers hit a pair of crowded mosques in Yemen's capital of Sanaa on Friday, killing at least 137 people and injuring more than 300 others, officials told NBC News. The ISIS affiliate in war-torn Yemen claimed responsibility for the attacks, according to Flashpoint Intelligence, a global security firm and NBC News consultant. It was the first large-scale attack claimed by the Sunni militants in Yemen, which has been in a state of chaos since Shiite Houthi rebels launched a violent power grab.

  66. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The rest of the word HAS moved on. There is nothing left in the US to desire, it's no longer up the same standards of living as Canada/Australia/EU. We have lost the edge in engineering and science. Half of the R&D in this country is performed by immigrants, and we are doing our best to disrupt that. We lost the edge in energy. China now make all the renewable energy that countries are actually investing in heavily, and Europe make all the efficient cars while we drive V8 pickups and dig coal. We lost the edge in military, Russia pulled off a coup without firing a shot by using the net. China occupied and held the south pacific by building islands. We haven't won a war in 20 years.

    The next step will be disrespect for intellectual property. I predict Trump is going to do something spectacularly dumb and try to raise drug prices on foreign nations, they will turn around and say "We'll start making those drugs locally. National security issue. We don't care that your companies own the IP." And you know what? We'll be friendless to prevent it.

  67. South Park Republicans say by mpercy · · Score: 1

    "I 'member."

  68. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by losfromla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except for accelerating destruction of environmental protections, rolling back consumer protections, increasing corporate welfare (and thereby wealth disparity) in the form of the repugnican tax scam, breaking of promises (Iran nuclear agreement) to our allies and others, etc. Yeah, things are going same as always... Really though?

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    Only I can judge you.
  69. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in one of the most redneck parts of the flyover states, where bestiality was legal only until this year, and possessing more than five sex toys is a felony punishable by 2-10 years in prison.

    Even here, there are no Trump stickers. People voted for Trump because Hillary kept insulting them (the deplorables comment), or condemning their way of life. Did they want to vote for someone that not even they would bother watching? Heck, Springer exposodes were more entertaining.

    If a Democrat stands up and actually offers something more than more anti-gun talk, they likely would be elected. Again, here in the state I live in, a Democrat is running strong against a Republican candidate because he avoids that minefield and has a platform that is bipartisan.

  70. Re: Results by mpercy · · Score: 1

    Is there really any other kind?

  71. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 0

    I am not going to bother debating someone who has drunk that much of the Democratic Part koolaid, but I will point out that it is not an "anti-immigration" platform. It is an anti-illegal immigration policy.

    I will also point out that illegal immigration harms those whom the Democratic Party claims to work on behalf of. Illegal immigration harms those at the bottom of the economic pile, those who are better off benefit from illegal immigration (which explains why Democrats so vociferously fight for illegal immigration).

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    The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
  72. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem was that there was no alternative, Democrats have more to do with Trump being in the Whitehouse than Republicans do.

    Well, there was the alternative of stopping to "believe" ridiculous lies because they happen to be expedient to your pet political ideology.

  73. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the business cycle kicks in next year and the economy declines, I hope you'll give Trump as much blame as you've been giving him credit.
    But somehow I doubt that will happen.

  74. Hmmm, let's see how clean the other side is? by mpercy · · Score: 0, Troll

    NY Times:

    The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

    The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

    But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

    At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

    And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

    At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.

    Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown. But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation’s donors.

    September 2005

    Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining financier, wins a major uranium deal in Kazakhstan for his company, UrAsia, days after visiting the country with former President Bill Clinton.

    2006

    Mr. Giustra donates $31.3 million to the Clinton Foundation.

    February 2007

    UrAsia merges with a South African mining company and assumes the name Uranium One. In the next two months, the company expands into the United States.

    June 2008

    Negotations begin for an investment in Uranium One by the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom.

    2008-2010

    Uranium One and former UrAsia investors make $8.65 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One investors stand to profit on a Rosatom deal.

    June 2009

    Rosatom subsidiary ARMZ takes a 17 percent ownership stake in Uranium One.

    2010-2011

    Investors give millions more in donations to the Clinton Foundation.

    June 2010

    Rosatom seeks majority ownership of Uranium One, pending approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, of which the State Department is a member.

    Rosatom says it does not plan to increase its stake in Uranium One or to take the company private.

    June 29, 2010

    Bill Clinton is paid $500,000 for a speech in Moscow by a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that assigned a buy rating to Uranium One stock.

    October 2010

    Rosatom’s majority ownership approved by Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

    January 2013

    Rosatom takes full control of Uranium One and takes it private.

  75. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    breaking of promises (Iran nuclear agreement) to our allies and others

    I cannot wait for the list of people who accepted bribes to make that deal happen is revealed. Of course, you leftist apologists already have your excuses and rationalizations handy, don't you?

    repugnican

    I bet you're super excited for summer vacation! Gonna play lots of Fortnite when you don't have all that pesky homework to do?

  76. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by houghi · · Score: 1

    Did you forget it was ok to change your mind on many things, even fundamental things? I used to think nuclear energy was goid, then I thought it was bad and at this moment good again.
    I know people who sworn to love each other till dead would part them. They changed their minds.
    So I do not care if a politician changes his mind. It is better than others who never do, no matter how wrong they are proven to be.

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    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  77. Make CA MX Again by cyberspittle · · Score: 1

    MAGA pun

  78. Re: Results by houghi · · Score: 1

    As somebodyfrom Europe: thanks more make me snort my coffee all over my keyboard. I needed that lauch.

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    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  79. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And no, the world isn't losing respect for the US because of Trump. If anything the world is treating us with *more* respect because they see that we no longer back down and take whatever shitty deals they give us.

    Actually, I think the US is headed for another civil war. Half the country voted an obvious incompetent for president solely to harm the other half, except of course for the people who voted for him because they think he'll bring forth the end-of-the-world prophecies of their doomsday cult (he's actually doing a pretty good job on that front) and the literal nazis. That does not sound like a country which will stay around much longer.

  80. If he understands, why did no one vote for Cook? by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    If Tim Cook understands all this why didn't he run for president?

    And if he did, why didn't anyone vote for him?

    I'm not sure why Tim Cook thinks he should lecture the guy the electorate picked.

    I don't like tariffs any better, but there's a sketchy premise murking through this article.

  81. Re:Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    > He will not consider the opinion of someone who's sexual orientation is an abomination to God and nature.

    You don't even need to go that far when someone intentionally confuses illegal alien with "immigrant". Although I am not sure what stake the guy really has here beyond "virtue signaling". Silicon Valley is the domain of H1Bs, not people that wade across the Rio Grand.

    I personally know guys that have been here (legally) for 20 years that I wouldn't necessarily consider "immigrants".

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    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  82. Immigrants? Or illegal aliens? by Chas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a distinct difference.

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  83. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Trump wrote more in his first year than Obama, and continues to write more than him

    Man the right wing astroturfing on /. is SO obvious

  84. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by bigpat · · Score: 1

    Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.

    Maybe. The courts hadn't ruled on whether DACA was legal or not. I tend to agree that it wasn't legal. But I also think that penalizing people for actions that their parents took while they were under 18 isn't something the courts should uphold either.

    If you were an illegal immigrant before you turned 18 then that time spent in the US illegally shouldn't be held against you for the purposes of denying you an opportunity to apply for things like student or other visas like any other immigrant. I don't think it should bring you to the front of the line either, but at the very least Trump could probably say that going forward when illegal immigrants turn 18 they can still apply for one of the legally sanctioned Visa programs and go from there. Or when DACA ends that people that were on DACA are not penalized by being forced from the country for 3 or 10 years before they are eligible to apply to come back.

  85. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by jedidiah · · Score: 0

    There is actually a great deal of genuine corporate welfare in America.

    Trump's tax cut is not an example of that.

    If you weren't such a completely lazy partisan sheep, you might have actually cited some real examples rather than repeating liberal media talking points. You have all of the appearance of someone that might actually give a damn but NONE of the substance.

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    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  86. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by jedidiah · · Score: 0

    > Did you forget it was ok to change your mind on many things, even fundamental things?

    Why would you ever trust anyone like that? What else might they suddenly change their mind about?

    My opinion on gay marriage has never changed. It has ALWAYS been more liberal than the current "liberal" position. It's that way based on first principles that I've always applied in the same way.

    Modern liberals are demonstrating quite well that they have no principles at all and are willing to be much more of a genuine threat to democracy and liberty than some stupid Internet troll.

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    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  87. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...America is running just the same as it always has...

    So Trump hasn't done anything to Make America Great Again?

  88. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    given that humanity is approaching a star trek based economy, will billionaires be so open minded?

  89. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right. Like the world didn't look at Obama and laugh at us? Let's not forget Israel's first lady said she liked her coffee like she liked Obama: Black and weak.

    The world has taken advantage of our generosity for decades, and when we decide we're going to look out for ourselves for once, you get all pissy?

    Go fuck yourself with that shit.

  90. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... I don't know where to start.

    Defeating ISIS? Like the organization responsible for new attacks every week? Withdrawing from TPP and from the Paris accord as an unilateral move that results in more pollution and less global respect? Ending the Korean war by tweeting that he will destroy it (let's forget the role the North and South Korean leaders had)? The economy was running red-hot before Trump was ever elected, he just inherited it - what he did do is give a big tax breaks to companies who are now buying shares back, further distributing wealth to capital owners (and yes, while that's you and me, it's a lot more the 1% that are friends with Trump)?

  91. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "banging porn starts and paying them off"

    Kennedy banged anyone with a vagina within his view. He's now a hero. The difference being he was a Democrat.

    Why should I care who Donald had sex with and paid off? If I was a billionaire, I'd be having sex with porn stars too, why the hell not? Don't be jealous.

    Also the middle class benefited from the tax breaks so clearly you're talking out of your ass. As well as healthcare as it stands being completely insolvent. Your hate for Trump is confusing you.

  92. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by losfromla · · Score: 1

    trump's tax cut is another example of corporate welfare, I know there are others, I went with the one that was uppermost on my mind at the time. I am pretty lazy but definitely not a partisan sheep and I do give a damn. Thanks for attempting to judge me though, perhaps you didn't notice my signature...

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    Only I can judge you.
  93. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump can as well, but chooses not to. Congress can overturn an executive order, but it requires them to get their act together.

  94. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since you're psychic, can you tell me what the weather will be like tomorrow?

    It will be within a few standard deviations of average.

  95. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by YouGotTobeKidding · · Score: 0

    ROFL. In what universe do YOU live in. Instant food replication? Nope. Instant replication of machines/tools/etc? Nope. Instant transportation? Nope. Until then - ie no limit to resources - this world is NOT approaching a star trek communist economy.... as that is the only way old '100million+ deaths and growing' Marx based economy is happening.

  96. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    See, you've demonstrated some level of ignorance at the same time.

    Most Democrats want gun control - training in the proper care and use for one. It's not a toy, but you see people use it as such (see the rampant YouTube videos).

    Hillary's deplorable comment said half of Trump's followers were deplorable. My question is, why did they put themselves into the deplorable half? She's obviously talking about the kkk and skinheads that were openly pro dt. Sounds like they would have voted against Hillary even if she didn't say any of those things (or said it in a clearer manner).

    Note: I'm not saying Hillary would have been better :p

  97. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He said he was willing to make a deal on the Dreamers, but they refuse to hand him a win, they'd rather use Dreamers as leverage than to fix the problem.

    Think about that for a minute. They could just fund some border fencing at a cost of a few million dollars and help those people, but instead, they'd rather they were around to use as a political wedge.

  98. Dear Tim Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The POTUS ENFORCES the law. Congress makes the laws. (Well supposedly). It's up to Congress to fix immigration laws, not the presidency.

  99. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evidence? Surely you jest.

    This is all about emotion. Gay marriage feels wrong (they were trained this way all their life), so down with the gays!

  100. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're leaving out the other 644 that he disguised as "memoranda."

  101. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Number is irrelevant to scope. The attempted end run around Congress to import cheap labor has a significant effect on citizens quality of life.

    Most EO's do not.

    Your point is invalid.

  102. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by t0rkm3 · · Score: 1

    You are correct. So is the left wing astroturfing.

    As AC pointed out earlier in the thread, the number is irrelevant, the effect should be the focus. The desire to frame the argument to a simple number rather than the obvious implicit meaning of "number of EO's that matter to me" is a absolute tip off that a left wing shill is operating the keyboard.

    Sadly, the tug of war between the two parties is facilitated by this idiocy, rather than moving on to wondering how we get this two-winged-one-asshole shitbird off our backs.

  103. Coal Miners by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

    Coal miners don't design iPhones or own Apple TVs.

  104. Immigrant status HAS been addressed already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Immigrant status HAS been addressed already.

    a) you get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You are a "LEGAL Immigrant"

    b) you do not get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You might overstay a tourist visa or swim over a river or hide in the back of some vehicle or get in some other way, but without prior written, approval. You are an "ILLEGAL Immigrant"

    What's hard about that?

    There are lots of people in the USA legally without citizenship or even a Permanent Resident card (green card). Many were allowed in for "Temporary" reasons due to weather in their home countries 5, 10, 15+ years ago. As of February 2018, these temporary visitors can apply for permanent residency. If they don't, they should prepare to leave when the program they are under ends.

    Just because some people don't like the answers, doesn't mean it isn't addressed. There is a legal process for people. There are immigration lawyers to take their side of the case. If it works out, welcome. If not, so long.

    It is unfortunate that Dreamer's parents chose to break US laws. We should never split up a family, so when the parents are deported, the kids should go as well. I moved 11 times as a child. They'd get over it. Almost every military brat with US military parents has moved 6+ times. We all got over it. 2 of my sisters moved DURING their Senior year in High School. Both became very popular at their new HS and attended well-regarded Universities (Rice, Cornell). For children born in the USA from parents illegally here, it would be cruel to break the family up. All of them should go back. Doesn't matter if "back" is Mexico, Ecuador, France, Canada, UK, Japan, China, Germany, Bolivia, Chile, Nepal, India, .... wherever. I don't care. When the kids become adults, they can choose to return to the USA, if they like. Welcome. If 1 parent is a US citizen or legal permanent resident, US citizenship can be passed to the child.

    Perhaps it is time the USA amends the constitution to remove the born-here loophole? If both parents are in the USA illegally, then the child doesn't gain US citizenship. I looked up citizenship by parentage - almost every country in the world accepts this as a "right." They would not be born without a country. Very few countries give citizenship just based on the location of birth. It was a smart thing prior to 100 years ago for the USA, but times have changed and undesirable consequences are occurring due to this outdated law-of-the-land. Time to fix it.

  105. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

    He could say it, but it only means anything if Congress passes it into law.

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    The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
  106. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Banging skanky office interns. Doesn't get any better than the Democrats hero Bill Clinton.

  107. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you an idiot? Snowflakes get participation trophies. In real life not baby cry rooms someone always wins and someone loses.

  108. Tim Cook??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is Tim Cook to tell someone what's the right thing to do? He's so fucking arrogant with ignoring the Macintosh for so long and now the fucking keyboard debacle.

    It's time for Tim to stop worrying about his illegal immigrant employees and start worrying about keeping his job.

  109. Re:Don't forget by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

    Turnabout is fair play.

    Ds are still giving B Clinton credit for the last eight years of the Reagan boom.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  110. Re:Results by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    You really should change where you're getting your news. It's deranging you.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  111. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget:

    Defeating ISIS
    Withdrawing from TPP
    Withdrawing from Paris accord
    Ending the Korean war
    Kickstarting the economy
    Bringing jobs back
    Lowest unemployment ever

    I assume this is sarcasm?

  112. The title is wrong. by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

    Allen asked Trump to address the legal status of illegal aliens. Immigrants have a legal status, illegal aliens do not.

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    There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
  113. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    You trust someone because you consider him trustworthy.

    And not because of his opinion.

    Who cares who is marrying whom? It does not affect your life at the slightest.

    --
    Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  114. This cuts both ways though by melted · · Score: 1

    So in 2024, when Trump is on his way out, I hope you will also support the wiretapping and surveillance of the Democratic electoral campaign, because Iâ(TM)m pretty sure foreign powers (not just Russia) will be âoeinterferingâ in that election as well. Shitting your pants yet? Youâ(TM)ve made your bed, now sleep in it.

    1. Re:This cuts both ways though by fafalone · · Score: 1

      If a member of the Democratic candidates team has such extensively documented ties to a hostile foreign power as Page did, I for one would absolutely support that person being investigated as well (they went after Carter Page specifically during the campaign, not "the Trump Campaign". Trumps phone wasn't tapped).

    2. Re:This cuts both ways though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to r/politics with that bs.....

  115. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

    If you mean Stalin, the people did not die due to bad "communist economy".
    Stalin killed them.

    If you mean Mao, again, the people did not die due to "bad" communist economy. They died because everyone tried to overpower Mao and gave him false informations about how good the harvests are.

    If you mean Pol Pot, he was of the opinion that people who live in cities and had a good education should become farmers, and switch houses with the farmers. So the farmers can enjoy city life and the high borns can do some hard work. He did not expect that farming is so hard that a highborn has no clue how to do it and caused a mass starvation ...

    Probably you don't know anything about history or about communism or about markets ... "communist" east Germany was running superb, so is Cuba, despite of your sanctions.

    The problem is not communism. The problem is that most communist countries are/were run by dictators.

    Japan was "communist" from roughly 1945 till roughly 1988, no one noticed, because the two leading parties died not have the tag "communist" in their names, and the economy was a strong free market bases economy (because planned markets and democracy versus dictatorship or single party versus multi party systems have not much to do with "communism")

    --
    Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  116. cook is worried about his bottom line, not nation by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    I agree with him about the illegals and H1Bs.
    But seriously, he is dead wrong about tariffs. China not only manipulates their money against the dollar, but has loads of tariffs against imports, esp. against the west. It is best that we raise tariffs on similar areas. For example, they have LARGE tariffs against cars from the west. We need to raise tariffs on cars and car parts from CHina. And it should ramped up monthly over several years, not just simply be slapped out like he is doing. This way, either CHina can decide to be honest and work for true free trade (i.e. keep their agreements that they are breaking), or let car makers know that their imported parts are about to become EXPENSIVE. i.e. move the manufacturing out of china.
    If Trump takes that approach, China can then decide what to do.

    --
    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  117. Re:Don't forget by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

    Nah. We learned from you guys. Anything good that comes we will credit Trump and anything bad well blame on what he inherited from the previous administration.

    Heck, this strategy worked for 8 YEARS for Obama

  118. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He said he was willing to make a deal on the Dreamers, but they refuse to hand him a win, they'd rather use Dreamers as leverage than to fix the problem.

    God help us. You mean one of the sides of the debate wants to actually FIX the problem?! How DARE they?!

  119. Previous attempts to fix problem with China... by acoustix · · Score: 1

    The previous attempts didn't work. Let's see where Trump's plan takes us. I don't like tariffs either. But it's better than doing nothing and watching our economy tank to China.

    --
    "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
    1. Re:Previous attempts to fix problem with China... by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 0

      I leaned towards "give him a chance" when that walking STI sore was elected. He immediately began placing assorted Corporate Foxes in charge of various henhouses, and I'm not giving him any more chances.

      --
      "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
  120. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sound like fake news commie propaganda to me.

  121. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, at least 25% of them are deplorable fuckwits. From both parties.

  122. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Citation needed.

    Obama said he believed it wasn't a RIGHT.

    Nice strawmen tho. Seriously a +4? 75% of the shit he said is taken out of context.

    This is why we can't trust the news anymore. Everything is taken out of context to fit your agenda.

  123. So What? by kenh · · Score: 1

    A guy that runs a company with billions in the bank from selling music, cellphone apps, tablets and cellphones wouldn't be my go-to source for opinions on immigration and tarrifs.

    Tim Cook got his job when Steve Jobs passed - Tim is an executive (a suit, in /. parlance), yet some how he is held up as some sort of 'Gandalf-like' character, his every utterance worthy of being carved in stone.

    I don't care about Tim Cook's opinions on immigration, has Cook ever found himself competing against an illegal immigrant for a job? When your monthly paycheck has two commas in it, you have almost certainly lost touch with the hourly worker whose paychecks don't even have one comma.

    --
    Ken
  124. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A +1?

    Wow slashdot has turned into a bunch of racist homophobes trying to listen to the echoes of their own chamber.

  125. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    breaking of promises (Iran nuclear

    The United States never promised to be apart of the Iran Nuclear deal. Obama made a promise he couldn't keep. The United States had no obligation to stay in the deal because it was a non-binding agreement that even Iran didn't sign.

  126. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So instead of refuting his claims you talk about summer vacation and fortnite?

    That's how we know you don't have a leg to stand on. That's how we know your argument is filled with lies and hyperbole. That's why you list no sources, you just ramble and hope someone else is as stupid as you Are and bites the Apple.

    Fucking imbeciles.

  127. Re:Don't forget by fafalone · · Score: 1

    But his alternative facts are just as good as your real facts!

  128. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ignore jerridiah. He was trumps cock buffer when he was tour running for President. Before and after every speech, jeddidah would buff trumps cock, making it the shiniest of cocks.

    And then he has he nerve to call somebody a lazy partisan. LUL. Pot meet kettle.

  129. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Japan was "communist" from roughly 1945 till roughly 1988" - sources??

  130. News just in by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Company that has its super expensive stuff all made in China says tariffs are the wrong approach.

    I'm sure he just thinks is bad, not that he is afraid of a 25% tariff on his products.

  131. Pay your taxes hippy by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    From the guy who told the EU after the EU told Apple they underpaid taxes to Ireland: you can have taxes or jobs not both.

    Fuck Off Tim Cook, you tax cheat.

  132. Re: Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's have a look. 1 by 1.

    1. Defeating ISIS: A lie- ISIS is still conducting suicide bombings and killing non believers. They aren't defeated. Not in the slightest. Read the news. There are attacks committed by isis DAILY.

    2.Withdrawing from TPP: I'll give ya that one. Wasn't that hard to see. Easy decision for him.

    3. Withdrawing from Paris accord: another toothless agreement. Sometimes doing the right thing doesn't mean you are a good person.

    4. Ending the Korean War: another lie - the wars over? Who won? Who lost? The troops have all been sent home? Yea didn't think so.

    5. Kickstarting the economy: 3rd lie - The economy wasn't in that bad of shape. Also, if that's the case, what's up with the stock market lately? Hasn't been looking pretty.

    6. Bringing jobs back: 4th lie - bringing back those coal jobs? Or how about a Foxconn factory, let's let them do whatever they want because "jobs". Gotta have those jobs at all cost. If he doesn't place environmental restriction on them then it's a farce.

    7. Lowest unemployment ever: ? - 5th lie -What? A quick google search brings back this: Q: What was the lowest unemployment rate in the history of the United States? A: 2.5% (May, June of 1953). Also, it hit 4% for the first time since 2000. So, another lie. Google it.

    So what do we have so far: 1, 4, 5(is on the edge), 6, and 7 are straight up lies. That means you are LYING about what you wrote, Incase you don't know what a lie is. And 2 and 3 were just feel good measures. Nothing of substance.

    Another partisan wack job debunked. Next?

  133. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least he wasn't a cuck and got free pussy. All bill had to do was lie and tell her she'd see the world.

    Meanwhile trump had to pay, and pay a LOT to bang a pornstar who
    A) isn't that pretty. She reminds me of an X drug addict tbh.
    B) was a pornstar in the 90s , the bitch queefs dust.
    C) have you seen her pics? She has one of the worst boob jobs I've ever seen. You can tell she was an early adopter in the 90s.

    I'm not saying Monica was a looker. I'm saying trump paid 15k for some 1990s worn out, bad boob job porn star. LUL. Meanwhile bill paid $0 and got to cum all over her.

    I bet stormy didn't even let trump cum on her. She made him cum in his own hand and clean it up. Fucking joke.

  134. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We decide to look out for the rich..."

    FTFY. Because they don't give a fuck about anybody else.

  135. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's ok for Donald but not Bill? What about that fucking witch hunt? Lying under oath about having sex with someone, LUL.

  136. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me guess, he should use Fox News? The bastion of honest non partisan news...right? Right.

  137. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    Only his most unhinged comments go against what his friends at Fox want to hear.

    Or in the case of Fox and Freinds, his incessant rambling was what they didn't want to hear. They almost had to cut him off.

    --
    SJW n. One who posts facts.
  138. Tim Cook is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and a swine whos margins depend on slave level wages in countries like China. The United States has the most open market in the world, and China has one of the most closed. China imposes high tariffs on imports, requires foreign firms to transfer technology/ownership to entities owned by the government, and provides massive subsidies to its manufacturers in the form of export financing, land grants, machinery supplies, and labor subsidies. If tariffs are what it takes to bludgeon the Chinese into acting on par with us, then so be it.

  139. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Courts have already ruled that DAPA, which was an identical program to DACA, but for adults, was unconstitutional - back in 2014.

    The only reason any judge has upheld DACA is because of the magic of Trumplaw - the discovery that all laws are different if Trump is involved.

  140. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol, blinkered far right sycophant wants you to believe his fake news.
    You really are a useless oxygen thief wumpus.

  141. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People like you are why Trump is president and Shitllary is not.

    Even when Trump voters explain their reasons for not voting Hillary, you still ignore it and continue on with your original false narrative.

  142. Big Crocodile Tears by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    The FBI et al might have been investigating the links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the only campaign intentionally attacked was Clinton's. Did you forget that?

    You know who is more credible that the collective whole of the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and their sympathizers in the intelligence agencies? It's NSA whistleblower William Benny and his associates at the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, when they say there's no proof the DNC was hacked.

    But sure, pretend the DNC is the problem.

    They are the driving force behind this misinformation campaign, and even their namesake is a lie.

  143. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple-minded sheep. Keep eating the crap (((they))) feed you. If CNN says something enough times, that makes it true, right?

    And how exactly does one refute name-calling, Mister Master Debater? Neck yourself, you will improve the gene pool.

  144. Re:If he understands, why did no one vote for Cook by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

    Tim Cook didn't declare bankruptcy multiple times.
    Tim Cook has an IQ higher than room temperature.
    Tim Cook has an opinion many people respect.

    Unlike 45 and his Trumpkins.

    --
    "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
  145. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In order to apply a communist economy on an unwilling populace (nobody in their right mind voluntarily gives up all they're stuff) you have to do it by force. It requires absolute power, which corrupts, absolutely.

  146. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    racist

    homophobe

    You forgot "misogynist" for the crybaby libfag trifecta. Try harder next time, simpleton.

  147. Re:Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by KixWooder · · Score: 1

    Naa, he listens to people who will earn him and his kids more money.

    --
    I hate fat people.
  148. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No you F off, you dumb ignorant piece of shit. There is no point in having a conversation with someone like you. Yes, Britex was a mistake. Yes, Trump was a mistake.

  149. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    i know it sounds funny, but with more and more automation occurring, and as it occurs people lose jobs. with white collar rule followers losing their jobs to software that runs on rules. and people lose more jobs that support both the blue and white collar folks. So when humanity passes a threshold of machines doing a large percentage of jobs; people will just not be working any more, because the machines are doing them. so while we are all laughing, something is going to have to change. nobody is going to kill the geese that lay the golden eggs, but will the billionaires elite be allowed to adjust our feeding troffs?

  150. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delusional much?

  151. Legal status of *ILLEGAL* immigrants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disingenuous headlines don't bode well for the content of the article.

    Why leave out that very important adjective?

  152. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "B-bu-but they never tried real communism!"

  153. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Islam isn't a race, you fucking imbecile. It's a religion.

  154. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The top result when you Google HILLARY GAY MARRIAGE... You fucking dolt.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/

  155. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obama attended a church that preached homosexuality is evil, and punishable with eternal torture.

    Show me who you walk with, and I will show you who you are.

  156. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So why does like 99% of the open racism I see today come from people who call themselves "progressive"?

  157. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Brockmire · · Score: 0

    Holy shit, that first thing you said is seriously stupid. It's like you don't believe in education. You've spouted some pretty bad shit on here (so that checks out), but damn, that's stupid. I worry about people like you in this world.

  158. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Brockmire · · Score: 0

    That's every fucking religion that uses the Bible or Koran.

  159. Re: Results by Brockmire · · Score: 0

    I can only speak for this foreigner, but yes, I've lost a metric shit ton of respect for US with Trump in power. Compared to Obama, who got a Nobel for sweet fuck all, vs Trump that has websites dedicated to counting his lies, in the thousands. Feel free to ignore foreigners, but don't be deluded in believing that the world respects them the same as Obama era. No fucking way.

  160. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Compared to the other candidate, who planned to start World War III on her first week in office?

  161. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Remember -

    If you want a leader who thinks you're a deplorable redneck rapist whose job is never coming back - vote Democrat!

    If you want a leader who thinks you're a decent normal human being, and is working hard to bring back good jobs for the average worker - vote TRUMP.

  162. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are exactly like those anti-brexiters... crying about the destruction brexit will cause... you know what happened??? FUCK ALL!!!!

    You know Brexit hasn't taken effect yet, right? And the more the details get hashed out, the worse it looks like it will be.

  163. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congratulations, you've figured out that politicians' public policy positions calculated. But there's a big difference between supporting the status quo publicly and not stopping change for the better (e.g. Obama and Hillary changing their official positions on gay marriage) and actively working against civil rights (e.g. Trump's trans* in military ban, which does not appear to currently be in effect).

    I was not happy with the Obama presidency or with what Hillary was promising for her presidency. I saw both as maintaining the status quo, which seems pretty bad for the common person in the US. On the other hand, I voted for Hillary since the alternative was, like Bush Jr., going to make things worse.

  164. It's 1860 all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Republican Trump got elected and Democrats like Cook are freaked because the nasty Republican radical is going to deprive them of access to slave labor.

    Tim Cook is running one of the richest companies on planet Earth, yet claims he would not be profitable if he used American workers to build his products. Well if that's true then how can ANY smaller company afford American workers?

    This is all about Cook making himself and his shareholders artificially richer by selling products into the free markets of democratic societies while escaping the burdens of such societies to use the oppressed workers of a communist superstate. The man advocates for all sorts of liberal policies but is unwilling to pay the taxes to support those policies or live within the liberal rules associated with such policies.

    He's a political hypocrit and fraud.

    He's an incompetent businessman (since he apparently cannot be successful playing by the rules).

  165. Re: Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my goodness you're demented!

  166. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing bad has happened because of Brexit? You people are so fucking ignorant. Go find out what the EMA is, and what has happened to it. Hundreds of jobs gone, a ton of expertise lost, strategic damage to Britainâ(TM)s pharma industry.

  167. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    True communism can only work with the new kind of human: The kind that prefers working over making money.

    --
    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  168. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. Religion is a choice, and they all choose to be evil.

  169. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Banning trans people makes perfect sense. It's literally a mental disorder. We shouldn't put schizophrenics or bi-polar people on the front line, nor people who want to cut off their genitals and pretend to be the opposite sex.

  170. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While that may be true, you can't argue with results.

    (And no, the world isn't losing respect for the US because of Trump. If anything the world is treating us with *more* respect because they see that we no longer back down and take whatever shitty deals they give us.)

    Yeah! What world wouldn't respect a president yelling;" If you trade with evil Iran, we will take you out of business - and then we will pay you tax payer money to get you back up, if your country finances my amusement park."

  171. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Turnabout is fair play.

    Ds are still giving B Clinton credit for the last eight years of the Reagan boom.

    What boom? And what about the other president between them?

  172. Re:Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tax breaks for the better off

    It's going to cost DJT a fortune. He said so.

    Of course he won't benefit: He has no money. He is dirt poor. He can't recover from all of his bankruptcies.

  173. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    Yes I agree, thus DACA

  174. You seriously buy into that narrative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow!! Hook, line and sinker!! I bet it tasted like shit, too.

    Hope you choke on it.

  175. Re: Don't forget by datavirtue · · Score: 1

    "The war president."

    All he did was war.

    --
    I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
  176. Re: Don't forget by datavirtue · · Score: 1

    People stopped sending troops home a hundred years ago. Standing armies are so normal and accepted that we do not even debate it. We debate gay marriage though. Progress.

    --
    I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
  177. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's trans* in military ban [wikipedia.org],

    What is the suicide rate of veterans as compared to the regular population?

    What is the suicide rate of trans as compared to the regular population?

    If you think putting a population with a high risk of suicide into a occupation that increases suicidality then you do not care about those people.

  178. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would worry more about someone unable to change their mind in the face of new evidence than someone who does change their mind. Worst, though, is someone who changes their mind out of convenience, irrespective of any evidentiary basis.

  179. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could argue that the reduction of environmental protections is a form of corporate welfare, though, as someone will end up paying for the externalities. A point in case is the new Foxconn plant, but then that comes with some irony for Apple given its relationship with Foxconn.

  180. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even given NEP and state capitalism as variations from Marxist orthodoxy*, I have a very hard time seeing how you could consider Japan to be communist 1945-85.

    * Stalin did away with NEP once he had full control from 1928, and mostly had its original proponents executed in the 1930s. Quite what relationship socialism in one country and state capitalism have to Marxism is still debated, and was a debate that went badly for Trotsky. The takeaway is probably that disagreeing with Stalin was life limiting.

  181. Re:If he understands, why did no one vote for Cook by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    So voters only matter when they pick the guy you like?

    The shoe will be on the other foot.

    Republicans say, "Elections have consequences", but Democrats say, "It doesn't matter. My opponent is brain dead !!"

    If democrats and progressives have more to offer than juvenile recess taunts it doesn't make a practical difference because they carry out their agenda as if that's all they had going for them.

    Your response reinforces this perception.

  182. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    and Stalin was a communist. Come on, I'm a Marxist from long back, and even I recognize the issues as issues.

    Fidel was at least as murderous as Stalin, he just had a better place to dump the bodies. Stalin only had Siberia, Fidel could dump into the ocean to feed the sharks.

    --
    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  183. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    In other words, autistics.

    --
    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  184. He did address dreamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did address dreamers and Democrats didn't want to cut a deal on the budget so it expired. Blame them.

  185. Re:Don't forget by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

    All enjoyed the Reagan economic boom.

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  186. Re: Results by Brockmire · · Score: 1

    She started in 2000, not the 90's. Bill also never fucked Lewinsky, he couldn't get it up. You are truly patheticpathetic.

  187. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All three of them changed their positions once they were no longer in a position in which they would alienate their voters.

    For Trump, this simply means that based on his constituents, he is free to be a transphobic, sexist, racist bully.

  188. Re:cook is worried about his bottom line, not nati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are forgetting the Chinese car market is bigger than the US, not to mention all the countries that aren't the US. Your car makers are trying to get into the Chinese market and you want to stop them? Why? Don't you like money?

  189. Your still full of shit Windy by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 1

    Again with the currency manipulation? Didn't you learn from all the other times you claimed this nonsense? Show even some slightly credible information to suggest that is in the slightest way relevant.

  190. Re: cook is worried about his bottom line, not nat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In number of cars, yes. They sold 24 Million cars. But the cars average price is less than $20K. In 2016, china bought 409 B in new cars.

    OTOH, in America, our average price was 35k, and we sold over $570B

  191. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The top result when you Google HILLARY GAY MARRIAGE... You fucking dolt.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/

    Nope, that says - just like Obama - that she has changed her views on whether gay marriage was wrong. Very different from saying homosexuality was wrong.

  192. Re: cook is worried about his bottom line, not nat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China sold more new cars than second hand. America sells more second hand cars than new. China's car market is growing faster. China sold more electric cars, China's growth of Electric cars is faster.

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4174607-fastest-growing-car-market-world-today

    After years of growth, car sales in China increased just 3 percent in 2017. Meanwhile, in the U.S. they fell by 1.8 percent.

  193. Re:cook is worried about his bottom line, not nati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/09/donald-trump/donald-trump-right-china-slaps-25-percent-tariff-a/

    Some experts suggested Trump had cherry-picked the facts by singling out "cars" instead of a broader category of automobiles or car parts.

    For instance, the U.S. tariff on light trucks from China is 25 percent. That import duty is a legacy tariff that dates back to a trade dispute in the 1960s between the United States and several European countries, according to Gary Burtless, a senior fellow with the Brookings Institution.

    "So by choosing ‘cars" but not ‘trucks’ in his Twitter example, Trump is cherry-picking products and not telling the entire story," said Bown, of the Peterson Institute.

    Gary Hufbauer, a fellow at the Peterson Institute, noted that Chinese tariffs on American auto parts sent to China are well below 25 percent. For example, China places a 10 percent tariff on automobile engines.

    Hicks, of Ball State University, noted that the trade disparity stems in part from Trump’s decision to pull out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an Obama-era deal to lower trade barriers among a dozen countries.

    "So, had he not killed the TPP, whatever tariff distortions which now exist would have been reduced," Hicks said

  194. Re: cook is worried about his bottom line, not nat by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    sure, but it does no good for tesla when the average price / car is around 20K. They want to sell them at 40-50K like its competitors, such as BMW, MB, Lexus, etc., do.

    --
    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  195. Re:cook is worried about his bottom line, not nati by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    oh yeah. Your posting is right on. I think that Trump needs to go further than what he did. Right now, I get the funny sense that he is trying to pull a fast one, rather than stop CHina from doing their garbage to America.

    --
    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  196. Re: cook is worried about his bottom line, not nat by crimson+tsunami · · Score: 1
    China still has a quite sizable higher end market. It's not all cheap cars.

    China remains the biggest single market for all three of the German premium brands, as well as for mass-market producers like Volkswagen's namesake marque.

    All German luxury cars sell higher volumes in China than the US.
    There is clearly a market for luxury cars in China. Even Tesla expects China to be it's biggest market in the future.

  197. Re:cook is worried about his bottom line, not nati by crimson+tsunami · · Score: 1

    So you agree with me that America having a 25% import tax on SUV's, light trucks etc in America, is worse than China's much smaller 10% tax on parts like engines? And he tried to pull a fast one by not mentioning it to his gullible supporters. German companies seem to have no problem selling cars in China. Maybe America just design cars Chinese people don't like.

  198. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Be fair, I'm a Vermin Supreme voter.

    He promised me a pony if he won.

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  199. Yeah, Keep Telling Yourself That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, Trump is working from some kind of Master Plan, one with strategy, direction, purpose, clarity and intent. You keep telling yourself that!

    The rest of us believe that Trump is an egotistical blowhard, thin-skinned and reactive. He has the attention span of a gnat. His knowledge of the world is so great, he keeps telling us that "most people don't know that (fill in anything that most people do actually know)".

    Trump has also created an echo-chamber of pathetic boot-lickers around him. And that flushing sound is the sound of "adults reigning in Trump's worst excesses".

  200. Yet Another Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To explain why virtue is a bad thing.

  201. Re: Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A standing army is not the same as stationing troops abroad which is also not the same as deploying troops to hazard zones.
    You should talk about shit you know about.

  202. Ones Own House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This coming from the idiot MBA that's currently running Apple into the ground.

  203. Re:cook is worried about his bottom line, not nati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    heh did you even read it?

  204. Re:Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All enjoyed the Reagan economic boom.

    The Voodoo Economic Boom that wasn't?

  205. Illegal alien, noun. by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    A term used by the descendants of European invaders to refer to the descendants of native inhabitants. Inhabitants to whom the USG should pay trillions in restitution for hundreds of years of ethnic cleansing, aparthied, and the Monroe Doctrine.

  206. Re:I agree, tariffs are the wrong approach to Chin by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    I would argue the income tax system is slavery to

    So you want to enjoy a steady income made possible by living in a first world society, without having to pay for it (civilization isn't free). Just visit the libertarian paradise to see how well you can do without it.

  207. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    I will also point out that illegal immigration harms those whom the Democratic Party claims to work on behalf of. Illegal immigration harms those at the bottom of the economic pile, those who are better off benefit from illegal immigration (which explains why Democrats so vociferously fight for illegal immigration).

    And I'll point out that the US should pay trillions in restitution for centuries of the Monroe Doctrine, and extradite pretty much every high level State Department and CIA official to stand trial. Aside from overthrowing pretty much every country in latin america, you also bankrupted millions of Mexican farmers with NAFTA and turned their country into a violent hell hole with your War on Poor Drug Users.

    Of course that's not going to happen, so in the meantime you could STFU and let Miguel sneak across the border to work at a gas station, after a CIA-backed death squad killed his parents.

  208. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    As AC pointed out earlier in the thread, the number is irrelevant, the effect should be the focus. The desire to frame the argument to a simple number rather than the obvious implicit meaning of "number of EO's that matter to me" is a absolute tip off that a left wing shill is operating the keyboard.

    However you want to rationalize blatant wingnut hypocrisy. You don't have to be as bad as the Democrats that now want a sitting president to resign over a sex scandal.

  209. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

    I suspect that you do not even know what the Monroe Doctrine is,, because I doubt you think that Latin America would be better off if the U.S. had allowed European countries to do the things you claim the U.S. has done in Latin America (which it more or less has).

    I would like to point out that the current U.S. government is striving to get rid of NAFTA, while the current Mexican government is fighting to keep it.

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    The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
  210. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by YouGotTobeKidding · · Score: 1

    That is not a star trek universe. In the trek everyone does whatever they want because resources are unlimited. We dont have that.

    The future is seemingly more along the lines of Larry Niven (a short story IIRC) where machines do all the work.... but to keep the economy going people have to consume more and more. So much so that to be 'rich' is to live frugally where ever you want, but the poor have to live (s)lavishly always consuming more and more to keep up with the robots output.

  211. Irrelevant by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Job's quote doesn't change the fact Apple already had ten times as much liquid assets as the $150 million investment from Microsoft:

    For Apple, the cash is symbolic. While the company has been bleeding money, it has about $1.2 billion in cash, according to its last quarterly earnings report, and doesn't need Microsoft's money to fend off immediate starvation.

    Aside from that pile of money, Apple could have sold some of their real estate or their vast patent portfolio if they had to. They didn't have to.

  212. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    until resources are consumed. Or unless someone invents Star Trek's Replicator technology. Then robots will be firmly obsolete. which has me humming the melody sung by Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven Is A Place On Earth" My apologies to the Black Mirror.