Then if you offshore and they've got a lousy security set up that causes you to lose money or business you can recover damages.
Right. Done a lot of offshore dealings, have we? I recommend you investigate just how easy it is to enforce contracts, much less damage clauses in contracts, in other countries. Offshore = foreign courts which tend to perceive the "poor oppressed small local firm" as a victim of the large global company. These courts have a hard enough time putting murderers in prison. Even with a favorable verdict, you are never going to see your money again. Better to spend the time makings sure you have someone to go over their work before they get paid instead of counting on lawyers. That might work in the US, but not outside.
So if "The Social Network" is playing on TV on Christmas, suddenly millions of people will be guilty of patent infringement... because of giving gifts in a social network environment.
I hate it when this excuse is used. And it's used often in business in many areas, not just security. It's the junior manager's way out - the way to duck and hide behind someone else. But while it's true a contractor, agency, or someone else will never do as good a job as you would if you did it yourself - at the end of the day it's the responsibility of the guy who approved and signed the cheque. If you don't even take the time to review the work you contracted, if you don't even bother to keep ONE person around who has any notion of how the work should be done and get him/her to go over it and approve it before it's accepted, then my friend, you deserve the good anal fucking that you are about to get.
If you don't take those costs into account when drawing up your business plan and prefer the "let's cross our fingers and hope it doesn't happen" security method, perhaps you deserve to fail. Also, actual security is not _that_ expensive, you just need to hire the right people, or design the software properly from the start if you are going to code it yourself.
Somehow I'm reminded of a paragraph somewhere in the instruction manual to the game "Pirates!" - the original version in the late 80's, not the remake(s). Paraphrasing - "the goal of piracy is to redistribute wealth to the pirates from those that are too lazy to protect it". Your excuse about costs is as ludicrous as the captain of a galleon full of gold complaining that he couldn't afford cannons to protect himself. If you're not making money you probably don't have anything worth stealing. On the other hand if you have 50,000,000 credit card/billing information entries in your database, please don't tell me you couldn't afford to hire someone to handle security.
Exactly. I'm no saint, but I have contributed personally and in my way to make this world better - at least for some people. I'm no stranger to charity (and I don't mean giving $10 to the red cross I mean real, personal, time consuming charity). But I refuse to be perfect on demand for someone else's whims - that's called politics and it's a pack of lies anyway.
You get a warning that a car 90 miles away is heading straight for you at 45mph and two hours later it misses you by just one yard. Near miss or not?
I love to nitpick. Actually to follow your example, the car would have to miss you by 2.25 miles, using the same proportions of your first example. I wouldn't consider that a "near miss" by any means. In fact considering I live about 1500m from a highway, I get these sorts of "near misses" all the time.
I've never been particularly attached to any given breed to want one that badly right now instead of waiting for one to show up at a rescue facility, but obviously other opinions differ.
Well the breed is dictated by my wife's allergies and our small city condo, and the "right now" part had a lot to do with my coming back from a month in an intensive care unit - we'd been talking about getting a dog for over a year but never gotten around to doing it - so it wasn't a completely impulsive act. However emotionally I think this was exactly when we needed her to come into our lives.
Anyway we've had her for a couple months now and I never want to go back. As I write she is sleeping comfortably in my lap - so comfortably in fact that when I came back from the bathroom she just stared at me until I picked her up again. While I understand the rational argument that somehow I am "supporting" cruelty because I possibly bought a puppy mill dog, at some point a line of responsibility has to be drawn. You could also complain about the municipalities and law enforcement that allows said operations to continue, despite animal cruelty laws. You can't expect me to change the world for you - if I didn't buy her, someone else would have. AFAIK pet stores don't throw dogs away when they reach a certain age. They are there until they get sold.
OK, I plan on eating my dog. Sell me a dog. What, are they going to make an additional law saying that you must eat your pets if you say you will? How about a law saying that pets must be stamped with a "best before" date? Or here's one, make it so you have to eat your pet in public or better yet, slaughter the animal when the credit card is swiped.
These legislators are stupid. Their state is completely broke, yet they have time to dream up bullshit like this. Congratulations on putting pet stores out of business (although surprisingly I'm sure that big-box pet food/supply retailers will be just fine) and causing people to travel out of state to buy their animals. Here's a tip. If puppy mills are a problem (and they can be), then GO AFTER THE DAMNED PUPPY MILLS.
I bought my dog at a pet store because no breeder currently had her breed. Yes, perhaps she came from a puppy mill. But she's the happiest dog in the world now (despite my sig) and I certainly wouldn't exchange her for any other dog now that we've gotten to know each other.
The place where you can find stories that were on CNN 2 days ago. Well done, editors. Why don't you post more stories about who "Liked" what on Facebook, too?
IANAL. The right of first sale for software (boxed version) has already been challenged and ruled on by the US supreme court. In the US it is not "legalized theft", it is in fact your right. Anyone who calls you a thief for doing something within your rights in the US is engaged in slander or libel, and you should take the appropriate legal action. Note that this doesn't apply to electronic versions, which were deliberately excluded from the ruling.
they'd be foolish to "upgrade" a working system unless it provided better productivity or in some other way improved their profits
That's the thing about hidden costs like security. No one wants to pay for them until they bite you in the ass, and someone walks away with confidential data, or your company makes the news (and not in a good way) and stock plunges, or the bank calls in their loan, etc. It's called - wait, ahh yes SHORT-SIGHTEDNESS. Gimme cheaper now, or a quick buck today, no matter what the consequences. Well, you reap what you sow. Let's see which company is still standing in oh, 100 years or so.
But again the short sighted people say "in 100 years I'll be dead anyway, what do I care?". Good thing the world was not built by people like that. They're just part of the background noise. Progress comes from the people prepared to do things the right way.
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...says the guy with a six-digit UID.
It's not the size that counts...?
Get off my lawn! rofl haven't seen that one in a while. For the kids here, this is actually a valid system message...
Then if you offshore and they've got a lousy security set up that causes you to lose money or business you can recover damages.
Right. Done a lot of offshore dealings, have we? I recommend you investigate just how easy it is to enforce contracts, much less damage clauses in contracts, in other countries. Offshore = foreign courts which tend to perceive the "poor oppressed small local firm" as a victim of the large global company. These courts have a hard enough time putting murderers in prison. Even with a favorable verdict, you are never going to see your money again. Better to spend the time makings sure you have someone to go over their work before they get paid instead of counting on lawyers. That might work in the US, but not outside.
So if "The Social Network" is playing on TV on Christmas, suddenly millions of people will be guilty of patent infringement... because of giving gifts in a social network environment.
That's ok, there's an entirely new generation coming that is going to fix everything. /BIG sarcasm
I hate it when this excuse is used. And it's used often in business in many areas, not just security. It's the junior manager's way out - the way to duck and hide behind someone else. But while it's true a contractor, agency, or someone else will never do as good a job as you would if you did it yourself - at the end of the day it's the responsibility of the guy who approved and signed the cheque. If you don't even take the time to review the work you contracted, if you don't even bother to keep ONE person around who has any notion of how the work should be done and get him/her to go over it and approve it before it's accepted, then my friend, you deserve the good anal fucking that you are about to get.
Actual security is ridiculously expensive
If you don't take those costs into account when drawing up your business plan and prefer the "let's cross our fingers and hope it doesn't happen" security method, perhaps you deserve to fail. Also, actual security is not _that_ expensive, you just need to hire the right people, or design the software properly from the start if you are going to code it yourself.
Somehow I'm reminded of a paragraph somewhere in the instruction manual to the game "Pirates!" - the original version in the late 80's, not the remake(s). Paraphrasing - "the goal of piracy is to redistribute wealth to the pirates from those that are too lazy to protect it". Your excuse about costs is as ludicrous as the captain of a galleon full of gold complaining that he couldn't afford cannons to protect himself. If you're not making money you probably don't have anything worth stealing. On the other hand if you have 50,000,000 credit card/billing information entries in your database, please don't tell me you couldn't afford to hire someone to handle security.
Exactly. I'm no saint, but I have contributed personally and in my way to make this world better - at least for some people. I'm no stranger to charity (and I don't mean giving $10 to the red cross I mean real, personal, time consuming charity). But I refuse to be perfect on demand for someone else's whims - that's called politics and it's a pack of lies anyway.
You get a warning that a car 90 miles away is heading straight for you at 45mph and two hours later it misses you by just one yard. Near miss or not?
I love to nitpick. Actually to follow your example, the car would have to miss you by 2.25 miles, using the same proportions of your first example. I wouldn't consider that a "near miss" by any means. In fact considering I live about 1500m from a highway, I get these sorts of "near misses" all the time.
Maybe now they will start to develop smarter technology to help prevent disasters such as this in space.
I bet you the answer is going to be "space is a bad and dangerous place, let's not go there anymore".
I've never been particularly attached to any given breed to want one that badly right now instead of waiting for one to show up at a rescue facility, but obviously other opinions differ.
Well the breed is dictated by my wife's allergies and our small city condo, and the "right now" part had a lot to do with my coming back from a month in an intensive care unit - we'd been talking about getting a dog for over a year but never gotten around to doing it - so it wasn't a completely impulsive act. However emotionally I think this was exactly when we needed her to come into our lives.
Anyway we've had her for a couple months now and I never want to go back. As I write she is sleeping comfortably in my lap - so comfortably in fact that when I came back from the bathroom she just stared at me until I picked her up again. While I understand the rational argument that somehow I am "supporting" cruelty because I possibly bought a puppy mill dog, at some point a line of responsibility has to be drawn. You could also complain about the municipalities and law enforcement that allows said operations to continue, despite animal cruelty laws. You can't expect me to change the world for you - if I didn't buy her, someone else would have. AFAIK pet stores don't throw dogs away when they reach a certain age. They are there until they get sold.
He considers his rectum to be private.
Does it really matter? After all I bet a lot of those turbines and electronic equipment will say "Made in Germany".
OK, I plan on eating my dog. Sell me a dog. What, are they going to make an additional law saying that you must eat your pets if you say you will? How about a law saying that pets must be stamped with a "best before" date? Or here's one, make it so you have to eat your pet in public or better yet, slaughter the animal when the credit card is swiped.
These legislators are stupid. Their state is completely broke, yet they have time to dream up bullshit like this. Congratulations on putting pet stores out of business (although surprisingly I'm sure that big-box pet food/supply retailers will be just fine) and causing people to travel out of state to buy their animals. Here's a tip. If puppy mills are a problem (and they can be), then GO AFTER THE DAMNED PUPPY MILLS.
I bought my dog at a pet store because no breeder currently had her breed. Yes, perhaps she came from a puppy mill. But she's the happiest dog in the world now (despite my sig) and I certainly wouldn't exchange her for any other dog now that we've gotten to know each other.
+1 Funny
Hey, companies have a right to find out if the bri^H^H^H money paid to lobbyists is working or not!
Especially since they applied for a patent for listening in on online conversations...
The place where you can find stories that were on CNN 2 days ago. Well done, editors. Why don't you post more stories about who "Liked" what on Facebook, too?
More space to be filled by Russian mining bots. Oh wait which universe is this?
IANAL. The right of first sale for software (boxed version) has already been challenged and ruled on by the US supreme court. In the US it is not "legalized theft", it is in fact your right. Anyone who calls you a thief for doing something within your rights in the US is engaged in slander or libel, and you should take the appropriate legal action. Note that this doesn't apply to electronic versions, which were deliberately excluded from the ruling.
they'd be foolish to "upgrade" a working system unless it provided better productivity or in some other way improved their profits
That's the thing about hidden costs like security. No one wants to pay for them until they bite you in the ass, and someone walks away with confidential data, or your company makes the news (and not in a good way) and stock plunges, or the bank calls in their loan, etc. It's called - wait, ahh yes SHORT-SIGHTEDNESS. Gimme cheaper now, or a quick buck today, no matter what the consequences. Well, you reap what you sow. Let's see which company is still standing in oh, 100 years or so.
But again the short sighted people say "in 100 years I'll be dead anyway, what do I care?". Good thing the world was not built by people like that. They're just part of the background noise. Progress comes from the people prepared to do things the right way.
Based on some of the Fortune 500's Ive seen, the "best browser available" for some reason seems to be IE 6. Yep, even in 2011.
And apparently they couldn't give a shit.
Apparently you're only allowed 3 ounces of poo.
And hasn't done a damned thing. Insert funding here. Yep. Revolutionary technology. Listed on the Tel Aviv stock exchange though.