which were banned for the purpose of stopping the enlargement of the hole, which it did
Correlation =/= causation. You can't prove the hole is caused by CFC's either. Someone came up with a theoretical chemical formula. However it's entirely possible that CFC's degrade by themselves with UV light before ever reaching the stratosphere.
The ozone layer grows and shrinks every year with Antarctic temperature. I remember in the early 1980's when the "hole" was discovered and everyone panicked. Now it seems it's a natural phenomenon. The colder it gets in Antarctica, the bigger the hole.
The threats facing humanity raised by the "greens" -- your chosen term not mine -- are real, quantifiable, and ongoing and will not go away
They won't go away with a "carbon tax" either. The problem is too many people, all of which need farming, industry, transport and land. I'm sure when the human population was just a few million we had a negligible effect on the environment. So you think you are "saving the world" when in fact all you are suggesting is another rationing system. Rationing does not solve the problem, it just postpones it. Reducing human population (and thus our environmental footprint) solves the problem. But oh no, God says I have to have 6 kids...
Warming things up also puts a greater amount of H2O in the atmosphere. The world is mostly ocean. Oceans evaporate, which is why we have clouds. But not all H2O condenses as clouds. H2O has a much greater "greenhouse" effect than CO2.
No, but if you drink alcohol and engage in public disorderly conduct, or if you drive while intoxicated, you will be "forced" into jail. Rights and responsibilities. Drink all you want but act responsibly. Drive all you want but do it responsibly. And have all the kids you want but raise them responsibly, which includes vaccines.
Driving is a right you earn by acquiring a license. However that right comes with responsibilities - the responsibility to obey traffic laws, and the responsibility to maintain your vehicle in good order.
Resorting to insults weakens your argument, it does not strengthen it. What exactly would be the benefit to "giving" a certain percentage of kids autism?
I read of a case where a fetus received metastases from his mother's malignant melanoma. But you are talking about extreme, rare situations. My statement is valid so long as you don't actively try to undermine it (like intentionally giving blood contaminated with metastatic cells).
Following your own logic - if every American born citizen is vaccinated then it doesn't matter if illegals come with disease as it would strictly affect illegals...
I'm all for vaccinating children, but forcing it on parents is wrong.
Public safety has to be forced on people for their own good. Things like speed limits and lane markings actually work to cut down traffic accidents. Just letting people drive however the hell they want is dangerous. Things like how to wire your house and building codes actually work to reduce avoidable fires, building collapses, health problems, etc. Just letting people build a house however the hell they want is dangerous. Likewise vaccines. No, it's NOT up to the parents. It's public health policy. You don't like it - tough. It's not all "my rights". It's rights AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
Working through your post it seems you are suggesting that more funding would solve this issue. I don't think throwing more money at schools would fix anything, apart from them building more and bigger gyms, having nicer vacations and buying more iPads (nominally for the kids but actually for the staff). Mismanagement of funding is also a thing.
Debunked, debunked and debunked. There are quite a few studies that show there's no link between mercury compounds in vaccines and autism. And believe it or not scientists and health care professionals are not "out to get you" with some giant conspiracy to give your kid autism.
As a practicing Aztec I want a religious exemption for murder. It just doesn't feel right when I can't cut someone's heart out with an obsidian knife and throw their corpse down my pyramid.
Freedom must have limits. One of them is public health.
The ones that, knowing they have a contagious disease, take no measures to reduce their effect on the rest of society or even still intentionally try to spread it to others - sure, why not. Send them away too. You are seriously equating preventable (vaccines, condoms, etc) contagious illness with cancer - which may be preventable sometimes but certainly is not contagious? (Yes some viruses have been associated with increased risk of cancer - HPV, Hep C, etc but having the virus does not guarantee cancer and the cancer itself is not contagious).
Vaccination doesn't give immunity, it gives increased resistance.
Increased to the point of functional immunity for all intents and purposes. There will be the odd case slipping through the cracks - someone with anergy or another other problem of the immune system. Of course you are right that repeated massive exposure heightens the risk of vaccine failure - but the reason these things are used in the first place is because they are highly effective.
To be fair they are mostly a danger to their children and to other unvaccinated children. But yes, something like this could be interpreted (and is interpreted in some parts of the world) as child abuse.
Sub-species. The biological definition of species is the ability to form fertile offspring. For example all dogs and wolves are the same species as they can all form fertile offspring. Horses and donkeys are a different species as the result is the mule, which is sterile. Talking about different human "species" interbreeding is wrong.
Sorry I meant a part of Canada that actually gets cold like Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, Etc. Not BC... (I'm from Montreal - don't live there now but I remember -40 this time of year.).
Well base 8 easily convertible to base 16 (32, 64, or any greater power of 2) which makes octal also a fun thing for computers. Hey if you add the gaps between your toes you get base 16! It's destiny.
The moon landing was a computer assisted, piloted landing on a body with 1/6th the Earth's gravity and NO ATMOSPHERE. Fucking docking in space without ending up with two wrecks is far more complicated than the moon landing. Seriously that's all you've got?
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which were banned for the purpose of stopping the enlargement of the hole, which it did
Correlation =/= causation. You can't prove the hole is caused by CFC's either. Someone came up with a theoretical chemical formula. However it's entirely possible that CFC's degrade by themselves with UV light before ever reaching the stratosphere.
The ozone layer grows and shrinks every year with Antarctic temperature. I remember in the early 1980's when the "hole" was discovered and everyone panicked. Now it seems it's a natural phenomenon. The colder it gets in Antarctica, the bigger the hole.
The threats facing humanity raised by the "greens" -- your chosen term not mine -- are real, quantifiable, and ongoing and will not go away
They won't go away with a "carbon tax" either. The problem is too many people, all of which need farming, industry, transport and land. I'm sure when the human population was just a few million we had a negligible effect on the environment. So you think you are "saving the world" when in fact all you are suggesting is another rationing system. Rationing does not solve the problem, it just postpones it. Reducing human population (and thus our environmental footprint) solves the problem. But oh no, God says I have to have 6 kids...
Warming things up also puts a greater amount of H2O in the atmosphere. The world is mostly ocean. Oceans evaporate, which is why we have clouds. But not all H2O condenses as clouds. H2O has a much greater "greenhouse" effect than CO2.
No, but if you drink alcohol and engage in public disorderly conduct, or if you drive while intoxicated, you will be "forced" into jail. Rights and responsibilities. Drink all you want but act responsibly. Drive all you want but do it responsibly. And have all the kids you want but raise them responsibly, which includes vaccines.
Driving is a right you earn by acquiring a license. However that right comes with responsibilities - the responsibility to obey traffic laws, and the responsibility to maintain your vehicle in good order.
Resorting to insults weakens your argument, it does not strengthen it. What exactly would be the benefit to "giving" a certain percentage of kids autism?
I read of a case where a fetus received metastases from his mother's malignant melanoma. But you are talking about extreme, rare situations. My statement is valid so long as you don't actively try to undermine it (like intentionally giving blood contaminated with metastatic cells).
Agreed, that's why I said mostly to their children...
Following your own logic - if every American born citizen is vaccinated then it doesn't matter if illegals come with disease as it would strictly affect illegals...
I'm all for vaccinating children, but forcing it on parents is wrong.
Public safety has to be forced on people for their own good. Things like speed limits and lane markings actually work to cut down traffic accidents. Just letting people drive however the hell they want is dangerous. Things like how to wire your house and building codes actually work to reduce avoidable fires, building collapses, health problems, etc. Just letting people build a house however the hell they want is dangerous. Likewise vaccines. No, it's NOT up to the parents. It's public health policy. You don't like it - tough. It's not all "my rights". It's rights AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
Working through your post it seems you are suggesting that more funding would solve this issue. I don't think throwing more money at schools would fix anything, apart from them building more and bigger gyms, having nicer vacations and buying more iPads (nominally for the kids but actually for the staff). Mismanagement of funding is also a thing.
Debunked, debunked and debunked. There are quite a few studies that show there's no link between mercury compounds in vaccines and autism. And believe it or not scientists and health care professionals are not "out to get you" with some giant conspiracy to give your kid autism.
As a practicing Aztec I want a religious exemption for murder. It just doesn't feel right when I can't cut someone's heart out with an obsidian knife and throw their corpse down my pyramid.
Freedom must have limits. One of them is public health.
There are plenty of large islands. Britain... New Zealand, and worse comes to worse, Australia :)
The ones that, knowing they have a contagious disease, take no measures to reduce their effect on the rest of society or even still intentionally try to spread it to others - sure, why not. Send them away too. You are seriously equating preventable (vaccines, condoms, etc) contagious illness with cancer - which may be preventable sometimes but certainly is not contagious? (Yes some viruses have been associated with increased risk of cancer - HPV, Hep C, etc but having the virus does not guarantee cancer and the cancer itself is not contagious).
Vaccination doesn't give immunity, it gives increased resistance.
Increased to the point of functional immunity for all intents and purposes. There will be the odd case slipping through the cracks - someone with anergy or another other problem of the immune system. Of course you are right that repeated massive exposure heightens the risk of vaccine failure - but the reason these things are used in the first place is because they are highly effective.
To be fair they are mostly a danger to their children and to other unvaccinated children. But yes, something like this could be interpreted (and is interpreted in some parts of the world) as child abuse.
Sub-species. The biological definition of species is the ability to form fertile offspring. For example all dogs and wolves are the same species as they can all form fertile offspring. Horses and donkeys are a different species as the result is the mule, which is sterile. Talking about different human "species" interbreeding is wrong.
Dr. Phil calls himself a doctor but he's not a doctor and not licensed to practice medicine. Calling yourself something doesn't make you that thing.
I have news for you but "actual nazis" have been dead a long time. Nowadays there are just faggots pretending to be nazis.
Sorry I meant a part of Canada that actually gets cold like Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, Etc. Not BC... (I'm from Montreal - don't live there now but I remember -40 this time of year.).
Well base 8 easily convertible to base 16 (32, 64, or any greater power of 2) which makes octal also a fun thing for computers. Hey if you add the gaps between your toes you get base 16! It's destiny.
Who will usually catch their mistake when they end up with a temperature in meters per second or a velocity in Kelvin at one point or another.
The moon landing was a computer assisted, piloted landing on a body with 1/6th the Earth's gravity and NO ATMOSPHERE. Fucking docking in space without ending up with two wrecks is far more complicated than the moon landing. Seriously that's all you've got?