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Internet is Getting More Civil, a Study by Microsoft Says (fortune.com)
While social media may feel like a trash heap at times, Microsoft released a new study on Tuesday that claims civility is spreading on the Internet... at least slightly. From a report: Microsoft's Digital Civility Index fell two points, to 66, in 2018, signaling that Internet users around the world are treating each other slightly better, although there's still plenty of room for improvement. The closer the index is to zero, the more civil people are toward each other. The survey measured the perceptions of teens and adults in 22 countries about their online experiences and the risks they face when spending time online. If the news that the internet is apparently becoming more civil comes as a surprise, U.S. readers may want to hold onto their seats. The civility index in the U.S. fell ten points in the past year to 51, showing the biggest improvement, according to a blog post from Microsoft.
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Why can't we just all hug and get along.... bwahhhhhh.
Because the the verier of civility is only as deep as the knowledge of where your next meal is coming from.
The ads... Good God the ads. I can't even read the summary because of bullshit ads popping up all over it. Wtf is with this new mobile layout?
There is no common ground anymore, so there is no point in trying to discuss things with people at the other end of the political spectrum.
I dont even try anymore, if youre a Trumper, youre not worth my time. You dont believe in objective reality, and since thats what all my arguments are based on, there is nothing really i can say to you that will click.
Is this the calm before the storm?
I stopped calling everyone faggot online. You're welcome.
when more than one 'side' is way too many..
If by civil you mean spam or hateful or divided, then yeah, I agree.
When a trolidiot or flattard or creotard or libertarian fool or whoever treats others like "snowflake" or "globetard" or "god hater" or "communist" then they deserve to be called trollidiot et al. When they try to shame you for being mean, or others do, AND YOU REFUSE TO BACK DOWN, then the trollidiot brigade no longer see the spewing of hate and vitriol and insult and blatant assertion is their field alone and suddenly they don't want to play.
Same with griefers on CoD et al. When they're ganked and picked on, suddenly they don't want to play any more and everyone else can get on with playing like normal social humans.
Sure, you may be confused and in fear about hell so therefore you cannot help yourself being a bible literalist therefore a 6 day creationist, and so you MAY get hit by fire when YOU, PERSONALLY, do not treat others with this disdain, but if you refrain from whining about mean people, therefore their atheism or whatever is wrong, you won't get hit again. And if you are, they are a trollidiot. And if you treat them as such, remember YOU CAN MISFIRE TOO. So ignore the person insulting and reply to the insult and realise that what you hated receiving you are giving out too, so if you can be well meaning, so can others.
What made the internet so bad was people being shitheads and not being called out like they call others because anyone else is shouted down by concern trolls and even well meaning idiots.
What is clearing it up is people not listening to the "Concerned of Mayfair" posts and giving back to the shitlords what they love to deal out but cannot handle receiving and not seeing that they are being protected by their opposition's opponents.
I think it is partially due to the Anti-Cyber Bulling information going out. Also how most tech companies are tracking down on Trolling.
I think we need to indirectly thank Trump for this. By emboldening the "Deplorables" we are really seeing what the Racists and how they were using coded messages before. A lot of people may have begin to realize (as I have), how many things I use to say, actually hurt people.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I can't argue about the validity of what they're measuring, but it seems they're measuring the perception of civility. It's entirely possible that people have become more "rude", but others are more willing to put up with it. I quoted "rude" because what is considered rude is a social perception.
It's just that people are now aware that it's massively under surveillance, that anonymity has been thrown out the window, and that anything they say, even under a pseudonym, can come back to haunt them. So the worst offenders are becoming more PC because they don't feel totally free to say any old shit anymore.
Exactly the same effect as when people realize they're being watched on CCTV cameras in supermarkets : many don't dare scratch their butts discreetly behind an aisle like they used to.
It's quite chilling actually, if you ask me... I preferred the wild internet to the self-censored one: at least you could see humanity raw, as it really is.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Well that's something a lot of slashdotters can get behind!
Whisper those words sexily into mine ears in portugues, you irresistable HUNK!
Civility, when enforced is not civility. It's other people/bots censoring you. (Like if Dice eliminated the AC option in Slashdot because usually AC posts are uncivil)
Freedom is the right to say anything you want. Consequences of that free speech are another issue.
Civility would be considering what you are saying before you hit the submit button so you can be the first poster. It's possible to be more considerate if you want to, you shouldn't be forced to be civil.
Stop spying on us, not telling us what in our updates/software, don't comment on good things unless you do good yourself.
Brings to mind this Penny Arcade classic: gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.
Microsoft is a software company. They could have used technology to, say, web crawl pages published in the past year and look for ranked words that may be considered offensive or lewd. Instead, they did a survey, which had a minor variance from the results they had last time they did a survey. Big story there. In other news, Microsoft asserts that people on the internet are feeling pretty good about the end of the world.
No it's fucking not.
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I suppose you could say that the internet is more 'civil' than in the past, but the reasons why aren't what you think. If my small circle of friends is any guide, it's because everyone is scared to death to say ANYTHING that can be considered 'non-PC' or taken the wrong way by the internet lynch mobs. So they just keep their comments private among a chosen few or don't bother saying anything at all. Why risk saying something, even the most benign comment, that can be used to get you fired or destroy your life by a bunch of nameless people on the internet looking for trouble? It's just not worth it anymore, so the sane people just drop out. Even my 'woke' friends (hate that term, but they seriously do use it) walk on eggshells these days.
So yes I guess the internet is more civil than in the past, but only because a small but vocal group of people have effectively silenced the rest (this isn't a left/right conservative/liberal thing, this is something much more sinister). I really had hoped that people would eventually start getting tired of the latest outrage de jour, but people just seem to feed on it so it continues to grow to ever larger and more bizarre forms of outrage. After all, outrage and victimhood is power these days. Who would willing give that up?
For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
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It has blood on it!
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Creimer is on YouTube. If you miss him so much, why don't you check out his Windows 10 certification video?
...so it's reporting how people felt at the time they were asked. This tells us nothing reliable or valid about the rates & severity of abusive or incivil discourse on the internet. Perhaps the respondents have just got used to all the abuse & antisocial behaviour?
Those who reject the Word of God, and take in His place the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, will face eternity without His grace.
"The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line."
From mass permanent public shaming for singular statements or 30-year-old acts of indiscretion, people will simply drop out from internet communication if they think earnest honesty, openness, or youthful rebellion will come back to ruin their lives.
Fuck you and your study.
-Styopa
Personally, I have become a lot more civil. I'm trying to set an example for the younger Slashdotters out there.
But the haters and losers can't seem to handle my civility. That's OK, because like Ghandi, I can withstand their trollish nonsense and allow them to fuck right off. Plus, I've fucked most of their mothers, so it's all a wash in the end.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Tor, I2P, etc have begun seeing the same behavior on their IRC. Only a few people left willing to break societal norms in relative publicity. All the devs for both are now doxxed, meaning the networks are susceptible to personal compromise using publicly available data. Furthermore the platforms they run atop have questionable security to always on surveillance (Win10/Intel ME/AMD SP/Arm Trustzone+Android) so mass scale node compromise is not only possible, but for the paranoid, assured.
The wild west of the internet isn't gone yet, but a lot more of the praries is giving way to pasture, townfolk, industrialization and finally cityfolk. Makes it hard to find anywhere left to be yourself.
I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and a violent man; yet because I had acted in ignorance and unbelief, I was shown mercy. And the grace of our Lord overflowed to me, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.
This is a trustworthy saying, worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. But for this very reason I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
I used to think 1984 was a crazy exaggeration and that it could never get that bad. Every year I am proved more and more wrong. Here, let's look at his principle of crimestop:
Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Be responsible about it.
Civil and censorship?
This is fucking BULLSHIT! I won't stand for a civil Internet, I just won't, it's TOO MUCH!!
(THROWS chair, TRASHES room, STOMPS out angrily)
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:
“Who is this who obscures My counsel by words without knowledge? Now brace yourselfa like a man; I will question you, and you shall inform Me! Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its foundations laid, or who set its core in place— while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
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When you have celebrities going after white males students for simply being white and male, it certainly makes me want to walk on eggshells. The fact that it gets clicks / likes / retweets to keep those addicted to the attention is sad.
Covington was a test, and showed the worse of the so-called progressives. Most are out of touch... but it makes sense the the more extreme left are just a bunch of signalling middle class white folk
There are good people on both sides, and there are bad on both sides. It seems like the left is more willing to defend their bad actors... or at least the media is.
What they really mean is the loony left are silencing other voices so the left are the only ones remaining.
FFS, there's a big problem of yours right there.
PS care to recount an alex jones' fan or fox news viewer, neither of which are going outside their echo chamber except to bleat "Trump is winning!" and "You're triggered snowflakes, I got my gun!" et al.
She was silenced by the rightwingnutjobs because of her speech. Acorn was silenced too through lies because they spoke for politicians on the democrat side. Silenced by the rightwing again. And if you protest, they will run you down and kill or injure you.
The left will make mean words at you...
And you call the left snowflakes!
"The civility index in the U.S. fell ten points in the past year to 51, showing the biggest improvement, according to a blog post from Microsoft."
We're all finally coming to agreement about certain politicians...
Anything that doesnt conform to the current group think or undermines the âoedesirablesâ is deplatformed. This isnt an increase in civility, this is an increase in authoritarianism and should be of grave concern to everyone.
Because of hidden comments. What you have to say is incredibly boring, and if we can't make fun of you, what's the point? If you allowed open comments you would get a lot more Slashdot views.
First!
You post random comments about having butt sex with creimer on Slashdot. What makes you think that YouTube wants to share your sex fantasy comments with family-friendly advertisers.
Yeah, I understand there's a trade-off. I personally wouldn't post random comments about having butt-sex with you, but I understand it could happen. However, ultimately it would get your view-count up a little bit.
And all the words, not the ones that you find comfort in. And know this: I don't give a shit if you think this "validates" your antics, since you fuckwits started it and made any old shit up before to validate it just the same way.
Your objective reality? More like your own personal bubble.
This measure is not about civility on-line, it's about people's *perception* about civility on-line. The same happens with transparency.org Corruption Perception Index, which is presented as a measure of how corrupt a government is, when it's actually a measure of how corrupt people think *their* government is in each country. Facts are not measured or taken into account, only people's opinions about a certain issue. There are a lot o reasons why these two figures can be substantially different.
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Antifa is actually fascist itself.
That's all you can say!
WE are not the ones engaged in actual domestic terrorism. WE are not shooting up churches. WE aren't running people over with cars. WE aren't shooting up concerts. WE aren't shooting up schools.
That's YOU fuckers.
Has placed a version of its own Social Credit System over the social media internet.
Police and gov reporting comments and the use of language.
NGO's, political groups, think tanks and governments working to change the way people are expected to publish in real time.
Telling people what content they can read and can link to.
Users looking to report users for what and the way they publish their comments, links.
People have to risk their profession, their reputation, their friends to comment on history, politics, science, art, culture.
The internet will just move beyond the boring social media approved content.
All the smart, fun, creative people will want to avoid a CoC, been reported on social media, tracked by their consumer OS.
Advanced new parts of the internet will be created to reflect the fun of early usenet, IRC, P2P, forums networks.
No more censorship, no self censorship.
People want their freedom of speech back. Their freedom not to be tracked by a political CoC.
The freedom to talk about a movie, DRM, a faith, a cult, political policy, history. To publish and to read what is published.
To LOL at a funny political meme.
To watch and read any media they want and to publish a link to that political content.
What MS is detecting as "civil" is just the fear of a CoC, police, mil and the results of publishing about politics.
People still want to talk, link, comment, read, watch and create.
The only part that is missing is a move to a new part of the www that will give back the freedom of the internet before social media and its political censorship.
Search engines that work hard to find content, not to hide and remove results.
The ability and freedom to publish does not need a select few to curate content for any gov, company, NGO, think tank, brand.
The ability and freedom to publish not a sin.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
That was not a productive reply. I used to be a Democrat and became a Republican when Democrats decided to turn into Bolsheviks. Politicians on the right tend to be rather abrasive, but the Republican grassroots is far more civil today despite everything the left says. I will have a much easier time talking about gay rights at my shooting range than about gun rights at a university.
The internet overall is less anonymous than ever, the more you have to watch your step, the more civil you become. Otherwise some random Freedom Fighter might doxx you. My advise, just stay out of it for now. Let the kids bash each other to death while the grown ups go to work
So... people wanting healthcare is enough to make you embrace a world view of wackjob conspiracy theories?
So, they finally took Tay offline?
Alas, there is nothing Bolshevik whatsoever about the Democrat Party.
Today's "BUT MUH SCIENCE(tm)!!1!!" fundamentalists are yesterday's religious fundamentalists dressed up in new clothes.
What a bunch of fags!
Its a bit hard to be "uncivil" (i.e. involved in discussions) when a lot of newsites have stopped having comments enabled.
"Today's "BUT MUH SCIENCE(tm)!!1!!" fundamentalists are yesterday's religious fundamentalists dressed up in new clothes."
The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to both.