- Parents who place a priority on studying and homework.
What homework? How do we know they have work if you don't communicate that to us? I have provided my home, work and cell numbers for the last 10 years to the school and to any teacher who bothered to express an interest in having my contribution. And my email address. Did that illicit a contact when work was not turned in? Not so much.
- Parents who don't come in and berate the teacher if their child did poorly, arguing over every lost mark on the child's behalf, leaving with a huff that it's the teacher's fault the child left all those answers on the test blank.
"Don't come in" AND "argue" are mutually exclusive so either you are making it up or you have a 4th grade understanding of logic. That's part of the problem.
- Drop the no child left behind policy. Being almost unable to fail a student even if he/she does jack-all, is hurting morale of the hard-working students and putting out unqualified graduates who are unprepared for college.
Because the school is now required to facilitate every students success my kid might actually graduate. Everything I've tried, from groundings to talks to counselling, has been of no real impact. Having the school define a plan and involving him in that plan has seemed to (though it's taken 3 semesters of HS) begin to make a difference. Without this NCLB policy I warrant the outcome would be quite less palatable. YMMV.
- Parents who give a crap.
Oh, I care, you prognosticative petard. Our system offers a web-based portal whereby we can check for attendance, behaviour and assignments/grades from every class. Since the assignments are never entered as more than a detail-less description (not even page numbers) and since 50% of the classes are more than 10 days obsolete, they really serve no purpose but to further isolate us parents from the process. The fact is they serve to offload any responsibility of the teacher.
- The ability to dish out punishments like detentions or extra homework without going through miles of red tape and backlash from parents and principals.
Trust me, any teacher who feels any whim is provided every potential to assign detention. Case in point, my son has a male teacher who is of below-average height. In the past there have been jokes between them about his "hobit-ness". Until the other day when this resulted in immediate detention and the silent treatment. I'm sure our public High School of around a thousand students is not unique in that.
STOP with the 'it's the parents' fault' already. It is not. Public schools are little more than prisons. Like prisons, the warden and guards protect their turf and do not WANT outside interference. They do not want to be evaluated per performance (like the rest of us) and rely on their union to assure that such never happens. They throw up strawmen at every turn citing decrepit buildings, insufficient monies and outdated books - but I can reach my son with a simple conversation and a hand-made drawing.
>>Unfortunately, computers and the internet haven't really changed the game of education.
I think this is the essence of what the OP was looking for: How do we make technology beneficial? Throwing more old computers at disadvantaged students might help, but for how long and of what consequence? Is a computer without internet really useful in a creative context?
When I was growing up Television was the 'next big thing'. PBS and other channels were to provide the information to the public system that had never been quite reachable. As you mention, without the teacher the result was less than expected. Circa 1968.
The consequence turned out to be that parents found it facile to use TV as a nanny. Today I think computers are doing much the same.
They are responsible for keeping records of books and materials in standard formats such as MARC (Machine Readable Cataloguing, a format originally designed to transport bibliographic records via 9-track tape, i.e.: it is a 'serially organized' database making use of tags and sub-tags to parse the data.) which are then made available to other libraries.
Desktops reliance on Windows desktop objects means that it cannot provide some of the functionality of other virtual desktop utilities, however. For example, Windows doesn't provide a way to move a window from one desktop object to another, and because a separate Explorer process must run on each desktop to provide a taskbar and start menu, most tray applications are only visible on the first desktop. Further, there is no way to delete a desktop object, so Desktops does not provide a way to close a desktop, because that would result in orphaned windows and processes. The recommended way to exit Desktops is therefore to logoff.
also we know he saw the file "as he worked on a school-owned computer in a classroom" AND [he] "has been disciplined in the past for breaking the school's code of conduct with computers".
So add to the security weaknesses of that district that of allowing a known offender to access a computer.
Can the same thing be done at the federal level? Break the monolithic agencies into smaller "franchises" with the same goal but offices spread throughout the nation
I shop when the cupboards are bare. That brings me to the checkout with a fully loaded cart that will ring up to between 250-350 dollars. When the bagger asks if I want paper or plastic it's a chance for me, as their immediate boss (you know, the customer?) to gauge their competence and focus. That makes a big difference whether I watch every bag as they pack it and even sometimes walk over and look in the bags after they've been packed. I've had occasion to ask that a bag be repacked. What good are crushed noodles? Eggs do NOT go on top of a bag of noodles!
When I was a grocery bagger we were taught to engage the customer. Ask how they are or ask if it's all right to put cans, if few enough, in one bag or if they'd like milk kept out? These responsibilities of getting the bagging correct were not solely on the cashier.
Removing one more interaction between their customers and their employees isn't such a good idea. Well, unless such interaction is a negative, in which case technology isn't their problem....
Great list. To which I would add: - basic unix toolkit (grep, find, etc.) - calendar. which you don't have to go into "modify system date/time mode" just to see what next friday is. - drawers on toolbars - OS support for symlinks. Such that applications will see the linked target as just part of the directory space.
Knowing the kids were there at the time does put a different cast on the situation. But that was not in your post. Regular is pretty vague, yes? I'm a regular at our local Radio Shack but that only means the proprietor knows more than most about my system. He may have noticed that I have kids. May have noticed other details but when I was laid off that only meant I visited the place less often. I doubt he knows why. Or cares overmuch. You didn't say friends. Or that this kind of conversation was, errr, regular;)
they start going on about how the husband was laid off in December and still hadn't found work
another scenario is they actually had several credit cards and the husband wasn't laid off. They thought a sob-story would get them a discount on the parts. After they realized your handling of parts sourcing and general business practices sucked, they went down the road and found a more "reliable" vendor and are now sitting happily in an internet cafe.
Oh, and the kids? Yeah, they were made-up too.
It makes no sense whatsoever for them to have shared that information with you aside from the hope of financial gain. What, you think it was a plea for you to throw in something for the kids' Christmas gifting?!
I do imagine your competitor (who isn't part of the Nanny State) is quite appreciative of the end-of-the-year bonus though. That's probably a good thing. The competent should survive after-all....
OMFG. What a perfect statement as to why a Republican like myself might choose to vote for Obama!
I would dearly love to see an Agile candidate. One who would look at lawmaking, lawyering, and leadership as an iterative process. One who would clearly demark the deliverables his or her aides must provide and the timeline for it. One who would take seriously their power to replace this or that cabinet member or aide. One who would consider the American People as partners in this endeavor.
How could they fail? If the process is successful then, by definition, the People are content. This almost guarantees a new product cycle (re-election for those not following along too closely;)
One who was good at getting people to DO not so much as getting people to AGREE.
If they would return to selling Art that might help. When recordings were sold on vinyl they came in big, lap-sized packages along with pictures, song lyrics, posters and many other surprises. Zippers even;)
If they sold CDs in album-sized, human-friendly packages and included video footage of concerts (upselling concerts), posters and pictures (upselling autographs), additional music that they or the artist thought *might* be viable, passcodes to private online forums and resources (upselling advertising on their web portals) they could do a LOT more than pirated digital downloads. They *could* make "record-buying" interesting again.
Customer and Partner Value Propositions
The nature of the Cisco AXP, that of openness and flexible support of application services, is a catalyst for new growth areas within IT and as far reaching as facilitation of new business processes and enhanced business models. The concept of having application services resident on a Cisco router is appealing to various parts of an organization, be it a desire to minimize physical footprint and maximize service consolidation to hosting a distributed component of an application to promote a new business model. In any case, it is the inherent capability of the Cisco AXP module to assume system-level responsibility of hosting/integrating applications into the network that facilitates these things.
Independent software vendor (ISV) value proposition: - Addresses Cisco large installed base and use Cisco's well-established channel relationships. - The Cisco ISR has industry-leading market share. It serves as an excellent platform to integrate applications with security, unified communications, and WAN optimization built in. - Provides ISVs with a faster time to market. - Uses Cisco brand name and multi-geography reach.
Channel partner and service provider value proposition: - Provides additional revenue opportunities and facilitates higher margins. - Helps move from a product centric approach to a solution centric approach. - Increases customer penetration and stronger bonds across multiple categories of decision makers. - Is backed by strong worldwide Cisco support, including Cisco Validated Designs (CVD), training material, documentation, and so on. - For managed service providers, it further reduces management complexity and on-site administration needs.
Customer value proposition: - Provides server consolidation and decreased branch footprint. - Lowers TCO with less power consumption. - Provides enhanced productivity, better management. - Provides better network and application services integration. - Is compliant to industry standards such as payment card industry (PCI), Health Insurance Portability and
Accountability Act (HIPAA), and so on. - Is one vendor to contact.
Lastly, it should be noted that because pulling alternately on one chain and then the other resembles in some measure the movements one would use to swing from vines in a dense jungle forest, the swinging method of the present invention may be referred to by the present inventor and his sister as "Tarzan" swinging. The user may even choose to produce a Tarzan-type yell while swinging in the manner described, which more accurately replicates swinging on vines in a dense jungle forest. Actual jungle forestry is not required.
Licenses are available from the inventor upon request.
Tom has already summed it up for you most completely. I have one addition. If you get "instruction" from a boss that is vague, your warning alarms should go off loudly and longly. I'm *sure* you are aware of the potential exposure even government offices face in this Intellectual Property, Patent, Virus/Trojan world. HIPAA, SOX, etc. etc.
When anyone refers to the "internet or whatever" know that that is code-speak for "that distasteful thing I don't really understand but I have to give you this speech.... holy god I hope you don't ask questions and uncover my ignorance"
mod parent up. it's not a troll it's the clearest explanation of the problem with the OP in the thread.
Things change. I don't treat my youngest son exactly the same, nor provide for him exactly the same, as I did his older brothers. Partly because he's different, partly because our environment is different, partly because *I'm* different.
I'm guessing the OP is old enough to vote. Part of the problem then?
Damburger- as to respect. If you require every interaction to prove deserving of respect then you'll forever wander a lost zone where nothing is real. You sense this and you call it cynicism. It is not. It's just simple misanthropy.
Guns were not invented to take lives and that is not their purpose, in this universe or otherwise.
Guns were developed as an extension to simpler projectile weapons. Their purpose is as a deterrent. They extend the reach of previous similar deterrents, that is all. A rock or a club can be just as deadly, just not at such a distance. But dead is dead. A club, a sharp stick... fists if nothing else is available; all are used to perform the same function. Decry the need for one human to find need to declare to another that "I will kill you if you cross *that* line!" if it makes you feel better, but let go the idea that the gun is somehow special.
I could blind you with a laser small enough to carry in my pocket. I could irradiate you. I could infect you with biological agent. The delivery mechanism for such weapons have yet to be popularized or mass-produced. Does your heart not recognize your brain?! These types of weapons would surely become "normal" if -assuming it were possible- all guns on earth were removed.
But it is not possible. Law means nothing to the lawless. Do you not get that?!
As to cars; I was riding with a friend one day when his ex-girlfriend drove by. There was a chase. There was a purposeful crash. Tell me again about cars -none of which- are used to (try to) kill people?!
P2P tools are no different. They will be used for the purpose at hand, legitimately by the lawful and illegitimately by the lawless. Perhaps something in-between when the use is not foreseen by the Law.
Bullshit needs to be exposed and countered, even when propagated by well-meaning members of benevolent organizations. Especially when propagated by well-meaning members of benevolent organizations.
Those who enjoy the highest of regard must operate under the highest of standards and expectations.
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that won't work for me, the beta (time format) is already off. I still see my last public post with the menu bar below it.
count me in, these changes are def. for the worse.
- Parents who place a priority on studying and homework.
What homework? How do we know they have work if you don't communicate that to us? I have provided my home, work and cell numbers for the last 10 years to the school and to any teacher who bothered to express an interest in having my contribution. And my email address. Did that illicit a contact when work was not turned in? Not so much.
- Parents who don't come in and berate the teacher if their child did poorly, arguing over every lost mark on the child's behalf, leaving with a huff that it's the teacher's fault the child left all those answers on the test blank.
"Don't come in" AND "argue" are mutually exclusive so either you are making it up or you have a 4th grade understanding of logic. That's part of the problem.
- Drop the no child left behind policy. Being almost unable to fail a student even if he/she does jack-all, is hurting morale of the hard-working students and putting out unqualified graduates who are unprepared for college.
Because the school is now required to facilitate every students success my kid might actually graduate. Everything I've tried, from groundings to talks to counselling, has been of no real impact. Having the school define a plan and involving him in that plan has seemed to (though it's taken 3 semesters of HS) begin to make a difference. Without this NCLB policy I warrant the outcome would be quite less palatable. YMMV.
- Parents who give a crap.
Oh, I care, you prognosticative petard. Our system offers a web-based portal whereby we can check for attendance, behaviour and assignments/grades from every class. Since the assignments are never entered as more than a detail-less description (not even page numbers) and since 50% of the classes are more than 10 days obsolete, they really serve no purpose but to further isolate us parents from the process. The fact is they serve to offload any responsibility of the teacher.
- The ability to dish out punishments like detentions or extra homework without going through miles of red tape and backlash from parents and principals.
Trust me, any teacher who feels any whim is provided every potential to assign detention. Case in point, my son has a male teacher who is of below-average height. In the past there have been jokes between them about his "hobit-ness". Until the other day when this resulted in immediate detention and the silent treatment. I'm sure our public High School of around a thousand students is not unique in that.
STOP with the 'it's the parents' fault' already. It is not. Public schools are little more than prisons. Like prisons, the warden and guards protect their turf and do not WANT outside interference. They do not want to be evaluated per performance (like the rest of us) and rely on their union to assure that such never happens. They throw up strawmen at every turn citing decrepit buildings, insufficient monies and outdated books - but I can reach my son with a simple conversation and a hand-made drawing.
Really superior post, FuzzyFuzzyFungus!
>>Unfortunately, computers and the internet haven't really changed the game of education.
I think this is the essence of what the OP was looking for: How do we make technology beneficial? Throwing more old computers at disadvantaged students might help, but for how long and of what consequence? Is a computer without internet really useful in a creative context?
When I was growing up Television was the 'next big thing'. PBS and other channels were to provide the information to the public system that had never been quite reachable. As you mention, without the teacher the result was less than expected. Circa 1968.
The consequence turned out to be that parents found it facile to use TV as a nanny. Today I think computers are doing much the same.
see subject
A. knowing when the beat is actually an uptick
sounds like they have you over a barrel....
I wouldn't use it.
Desktops reliance on Windows desktop objects means that it cannot provide some of the functionality of other virtual desktop utilities, however. For example, Windows doesn't provide a way to move a window from one desktop object to another, and because a separate Explorer process must run on each desktop to provide a taskbar and start menu, most tray applications are only visible on the first desktop. Further, there is no way to delete a desktop object, so Desktops does not provide a way to close a desktop, because that would result in orphaned windows and processes. The recommended way to exit Desktops is therefore to logoff.
also we know he saw the file "as he worked on a school-owned computer in a classroom" AND [he] "has been disciplined in the past for breaking the school's code of conduct with computers".
So add to the security weaknesses of that district that of allowing a known offender to access a computer.
yeah, they're called "States"
I shop when the cupboards are bare. That brings me to the checkout with a fully loaded cart that will ring up to between 250-350 dollars. When the bagger asks if I want paper or plastic it's a chance for me, as their immediate boss (you know, the customer?) to gauge their competence and focus. That makes a big difference whether I watch every bag as they pack it and even sometimes walk over and look in the bags after they've been packed. I've had occasion to ask that a bag be repacked. What good are crushed noodles? Eggs do NOT go on top of a bag of noodles!
When I was a grocery bagger we were taught to engage the customer. Ask how they are or ask if it's all right to put cans, if few enough, in one bag or if they'd like milk kept out? These responsibilities of getting the bagging correct were not solely on the cashier.
Removing one more interaction between their customers and their employees isn't such a good idea. Well, unless such interaction is a negative, in which case technology isn't their problem....
Great list. To which I would add:
- basic unix toolkit (grep, find, etc.)
- calendar. which you don't have to go into "modify system date/time mode" just to see what next friday is.
- drawers on toolbars
- OS support for symlinks. Such that applications will see the linked target as just part of the directory space.
For some reason i still haven't gotten a call back...
probably. I would say, because you refer to yourself in the lower-case. ;)
Knowing the kids were there at the time does put a different cast on the situation. But that was not in your post. Regular is pretty vague, yes? I'm a regular at our local Radio Shack but that only means the proprietor knows more than most about my system. He may have noticed that I have kids. May have noticed other details but when I was laid off that only meant I visited the place less often. I doubt he knows why. Or cares overmuch. You didn't say friends. Or that this kind of conversation was, errr, regular ;)
New scenario- the kids were borrowed.
Just Kidding. apologies for harshness.
another scenario is they actually had several credit cards and the husband wasn't laid off. They thought a sob-story would get them a discount on the parts. After they realized your handling of parts sourcing and general business practices sucked, they went down the road and found a more "reliable" vendor and are now sitting happily in an internet cafe.
Oh, and the kids? Yeah, they were made-up too.
It makes no sense whatsoever for them to have shared that information with you aside from the hope of financial gain. What, you think it was a plea for you to throw in something for the kids' Christmas gifting?!
I do imagine your competitor (who isn't part of the Nanny State) is quite appreciative of the end-of-the-year bonus though. That's probably a good thing. The competent should survive after-all....
aye. It's not the writing of the words that's the problem. Great books are created daily on chatroom logs!
It's the *ordering* of the words that's the rub...
OMFG. What a perfect statement as to why a Republican like myself might choose to vote for Obama!
;)
I would dearly love to see an Agile candidate. One who would look at lawmaking, lawyering, and leadership as an iterative process. One who would clearly demark the deliverables his or her aides must provide and the timeline for it. One who would take seriously their power to replace this or that cabinet member or aide. One who would consider the American People as partners in this endeavor.
How could they fail? If the process is successful then, by definition, the People are content. This almost guarantees a new product cycle (re-election for those not following along too closely
One who was good at getting people to DO not so much as getting people to AGREE.
ok this should be modded up +1 Funny!
If they would return to selling Art that might help. When recordings were sold on vinyl they came in big, lap-sized packages along with pictures, song lyrics, posters and many other surprises. Zippers even ;)
If they sold CDs in album-sized, human-friendly packages and included video footage of concerts (upselling concerts), posters and pictures (upselling autographs), additional music that they or the artist thought *might* be viable, passcodes to private online forums and resources (upselling advertising on their web portals) they could do a LOT more than pirated digital downloads. They *could* make "record-buying" interesting again.
They won't.
>>code is the source, and documentation is generated from that
not true. the documentation are separate markup to the source. And, if not maintained, suffer all the problems of literate programming.
see architecture pic: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9701/images/white_paper_c11_459082-5.jpg
It would seem that Mono could be a runtime for apps also. Anybody know why that might not work?
As to why you'd want this on the router, you already have a footprint in that space. Virtualization and Consolidation = decreased (branch) footprint.
Cisco says it this way: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9701/white_paper_c11_459082.html
Customer and Partner Value Propositions
The nature of the Cisco AXP, that of openness and flexible support of application services, is a catalyst for new growth areas within IT and as far reaching as facilitation of new business processes and enhanced business models. The concept of having application services resident on a Cisco router is appealing to various parts of an organization, be it a desire to minimize physical footprint and maximize service consolidation to hosting a distributed component of an application to promote a new business model. In any case, it is the inherent capability of the Cisco AXP module to assume system-level responsibility of hosting/integrating applications into the network that facilitates these things.
Independent software vendor (ISV) value proposition:
- Addresses Cisco large installed base and use Cisco's well-established channel relationships.
- The Cisco ISR has industry-leading market share. It serves as an excellent platform to integrate applications with security, unified communications, and WAN optimization built in.
- Provides ISVs with a faster time to market.
- Uses Cisco brand name and multi-geography reach.
Channel partner and service provider value proposition:
- Provides additional revenue opportunities and facilitates higher margins.
- Helps move from a product centric approach to a solution centric approach.
- Increases customer penetration and stronger bonds across multiple categories of decision makers.
- Is backed by strong worldwide Cisco support, including Cisco Validated Designs (CVD), training material, documentation, and so on.
- For managed service providers, it further reduces management complexity and on-site administration needs.
Customer value proposition:
- Provides server consolidation and decreased branch footprint.
- Lowers TCO with less power consumption.
- Provides enhanced productivity, better management.
- Provides better network and application services integration.
- Is compliant to industry standards such as payment card industry (PCI), Health Insurance Portability and
Accountability Act (HIPAA), and so on.
- Is one vendor to contact.
It isn't. Here's the USPTO page. OMG...
Patent Granted: Tarzan Swinging
fixed that for you
Tom has already summed it up for you most completely. I have one addition. If you get "instruction" from a boss that is vague, your warning alarms should go off loudly and longly. I'm *sure* you are aware of the potential exposure even government offices face in this Intellectual Property, Patent, Virus/Trojan world. HIPAA, SOX, etc. etc.
When anyone refers to the "internet or whatever" know that that is code-speak for "that distasteful thing I don't really understand but I have to give you this speech.... holy god I hope you don't ask questions and uncover my ignorance"
In other words, warning Will Robinson.
mod parent up. it's not a troll it's the clearest explanation of the problem with the OP in the thread.
Things change. I don't treat my youngest son exactly the same, nor provide for him exactly the same, as I did his older brothers. Partly because he's different, partly because our environment is different, partly because *I'm* different.
I'm guessing the OP is old enough to vote. Part of the problem then?
Damburger- as to respect. If you require every interaction to prove deserving of respect then you'll forever wander a lost zone where nothing is real. You sense this and you call it cynicism. It is not. It's just simple misanthropy.
Hold on there skippy!
Guns were not invented to take lives and that is not their purpose, in this universe or otherwise.
Guns were developed as an extension to simpler projectile weapons. Their purpose is as a deterrent. They extend the reach of previous similar deterrents, that is all. A rock or a club can be just as deadly, just not at such a distance. But dead is dead. A club, a sharp stick... fists if nothing else is available; all are used to perform the same function. Decry the need for one human to find need to declare to another that "I will kill you if you cross *that* line!" if it makes you feel better, but let go the idea that the gun is somehow special.
I could blind you with a laser small enough to carry in my pocket. I could irradiate you. I could infect you with biological agent. The delivery mechanism for such weapons have yet to be popularized or mass-produced. Does your heart not recognize your brain?! These types of weapons would surely become "normal" if -assuming it were possible- all guns on earth were removed.
But it is not possible. Law means nothing to the lawless. Do you not get that?!
As to cars; I was riding with a friend one day when his ex-girlfriend drove by. There was a chase. There was a purposeful crash. Tell me again about cars -none of which- are used to (try to) kill people?!
P2P tools are no different. They will be used for the purpose at hand, legitimately by the lawful and illegitimately by the lawless. Perhaps something in-between when the use is not foreseen by the Law.
Those who enjoy the highest of regard must operate under the highest of standards and expectations.